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Re: Synthetic 'unless' keyword

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jt@toerring.de (Jens Thoms Toerring) writes:

> Hi,
>
>    to summarize: there don't seem to be anything
> "technically broken" with a macro like
>
> #define unless(expr) if (! (expr))
>
> or also
>
> #define until(expr) while (! (expr))
>
> in the sense that there would be cornercases where
> it would do something quite different from what it
> obviously was intended to do. That's the good side.
>
> Note: I hadn't considered an 'unless' keyword as some-
> thing the C language would need urgently, it has done
> quite well for a very long time without;-) A macro
> like that (maybe just for use in some not too public
> projects) would do, as far as I can see.
>
> The other issue is how "disgusting" it is to other
> people looking at the code. Of course, there's some
> startling factor - there's something that looks like
> a keyword, but one you haven't seen before and, while
> its meaning looks rather obvious, you can't say for sure
> if it really does what you expect until you have hunted
> down its definition in sone header file and made sure
> that it actually does what you expected. That's a good
> argument against using it, at least in code other people
> have to work with. And another issue would be constructs
> like
>
>   unless (something) {
>       ...
>   } else unless (something_else) {
>       ...
>   } else {
>       ...
>   }

Some languages distinguish between conditionals that can have an 'else'
and those that can't.  For example, Lisp has (when ...) and (unless ...)
which don't have an else branch and BCPL has 'if E do C' and 'unless E
do C' with 'test E then C1 or C2' for the double armed condition.

You could do that here with something like

  #define unless(test) if (test); else

which would make the above be a syntax error.

<snip>
-- 
Ben.

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Synthetic 'unless' keyword jt@toerring.de (Jens Thoms Toerring) - 2016-08-04 09:44 +0000
  Re: Synthetic 'unless' keyword David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-08-04 12:21 +0200
  Re: Synthetic 'unless' keyword Mark Storkamp <mstorkamp@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-04 07:01 -0500
    Re: Synthetic 'unless' keyword bert <bert.hutchings@btinternet.com> - 2016-08-04 05:42 -0700
    Re: Synthetic 'unless' keyword Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-08-04 08:45 -0700
      Re: Synthetic 'unless' keyword Philip Lantz <prl@canterey.us> - 2016-08-04 21:55 -0700
      Re: Synthetic 'unless' keyword BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-08-05 10:08 +0100
    Re: Synthetic 'unless' keyword Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-08-05 01:17 -0700
      Re: Synthetic 'unless' keyword BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-08-05 10:01 +0100
        Re: Synthetic 'unless' keyword Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-08-05 04:34 -0700
      Re: Synthetic 'unless' keyword Mark Storkamp <mstorkamp@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-05 09:37 -0500
        Re: Synthetic 'unless' keyword Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-08-06 02:28 -0700
  Re: Synthetic 'unless' keyword jt@toerring.de (Jens Thoms Toerring) - 2016-08-04 13:38 +0000
  Re: Synthetic 'unless' keyword BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-08-04 15:04 +0100
  Re: Synthetic 'unless' keyword mark.bluemel@gmail.com - 2016-08-04 07:06 -0700
  Re: Synthetic 'unless' keyword Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-08-04 08:52 -0700
    Re: Synthetic 'unless' keyword supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-08-04 09:45 -0700
      Re: Synthetic 'unless' keyword Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-08-04 10:23 -0700
        Re: Synthetic 'unless' keyword Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-08-04 19:39 +0100
          Re: Synthetic 'unless' keyword supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-08-04 12:02 -0700
            Re: Synthetic 'unless' keyword Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-08-04 20:33 +0100
            Re: Synthetic 'unless' keyword BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-08-04 20:42 +0100
              Re: Synthetic 'unless' keyword David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-08-05 13:14 +0200
                Re: Synthetic 'unless' keyword Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-08-05 12:41 +0100
    Re: Synthetic 'unless' keyword mark.bluemel@gmail.com - 2016-08-05 00:53 -0700
  Re: Synthetic 'unless' keyword Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-08-04 16:43 -0400
    Re: Synthetic 'unless' keyword David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-08-05 13:16 +0200
  Re: Synthetic 'unless' keyword jt@toerring.de (Jens Thoms Toerring) - 2016-08-04 23:16 +0000
    Re: Synthetic 'unless' keyword Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-08-05 00:35 +0100
    Re: Synthetic 'unless' keyword Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2016-08-04 20:13 -0700
    Re: Synthetic 'unless' keyword Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2016-08-05 04:57 -0700
      Re: Synthetic 'unless' keyword BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-08-05 13:15 +0100
        Re: Synthetic 'unless' keyword Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2016-08-18 08:11 -0700
          Re: Synthetic 'unless' keyword BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-08-18 16:36 +0100
            Re: Synthetic 'unless' keyword supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-08-18 10:20 -0700
  Re: Synthetic 'unless' keyword Paul N <gw7rib@aol.com> - 2016-08-07 12:56 -0700

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