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| From | Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.c |
| Subject | Re: Trolling the standard thumpers |
| Date | 2026-09-18 08:22 -0700 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <86v782twhm.fsf@linuxsc.com> (permalink) |
| References | <2qLfS.354537$aXr.31321@fx18.ams4> <20260910110112.37@kylheku.com> |
Kaz Kylheku <046-301-5902@kylheku.com> writes:
> On 2026-08-14,
> Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Dear comp.lang.c,
>>
>> Because I believe the standard thumpers have trolled us quite well
>> for way too long, I'm asking quite casually, if this is a conformant
>> implementation of printf()?
>>
>> int printf( const char *format, ... ) {
>> errno = ENOTTY ;
>> return -1 ;
>> }
>
> The proper question is, could an implementation be conforming if that
> were its implementation of printf?
>
> Right of the bat, the implementation could be a conforming freestanding
> implementation, due to freestanding implementations not being required
> to implement stdio.
>
> Could it be a conforming hosted implementation? I'm afraid the answer
> is yes, due to the way conformance is defined.
Such things have been known for more than 30 years. The bar for
being a conforming implementation is intentionally very low. Any
questions like this one are seen a quality-of-implementation
matters rather than one of conformance. The original C standard
group made this choice knowingly and deliberately, and in my view
correctly.
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Re: Trolling the standard thumpers Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-09-10 14:25 -0700
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