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| From | Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.c |
| Subject | Re: Christmas Quiz 2022 |
| Date | 2022-12-26 06:25 -0800 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <86lemuw8bb.fsf@linuxsc.com> (permalink) |
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Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> writes:
> Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> writes:
>
>> On Tue, 20 Dec 2022 15:03:36 +0000, Lew Pitcher wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 20 Dec 2022 14:57:56 +0000, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>>>>> The notable point is that the semicolon between clause-1 and
>>>>> expression-2 is /not/ part of clause-1, but is, instead part of the
>>>>> for statement itself.
>>>>
>>>> But that does not help if the grammar for a declaration still includes
>>>> a semicolon. I wonder what all the relevant parts of the draft you are
>>>> referring to look like when taken together.
>>>>
>>>>> Because of this, I don't believe that your count can be correct.
>>>>> But, I'm willing to be educated on this :-)
>>>>
>>>> Well, I did add (but then deleted) that the count depends on how the
>>>> grammar is structured. I should look at a more recent draft that will
>>>> have taken the confirmed C11 text as a starting point. I might do that
>>>> later, but I am in a rush!
>>>
>>> Perhaps I've got an outdated copy of the draft standard, and the semi-
>>> colon question was asked and answered in a later release.
>>>
>>> Your explanation sounds valid to me. 'Tis a puzzle to be resolved later.
>>
>> Oops... I found it.
>>
>> Under 6.8.5 Iteration statements
>> Syntax
>> ...
>> for ( expression ; expression ; expression ) statement
>> for ( declaration expression ; expression ) statement
>>
>> (all expressions are marked optional)
>>
>> Crisis averted. You are indeed correct, and I've learned something
>> new today. :-)
>>
>> But, that doesn't explain why 6.8.5.3 ("the for statement") shows
>> the syntax it does. Perhaps the draft missed something in resolving
>> the text between 6.8.5 and 6.8.5.3.
>
> Summary: You've found a bug in the standard, and not just in the draft.
> [...]
Not a bug. Please see my last response to Lew Pitcher
in this thread.
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