Re: on ``vector'' and ``array''

From	Meredith Montgomery <mmontgomery@levado.to>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.c
Subject	Re: on ``vector'' and ``array''
Date	2021-10-30 15:29 -0300
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Anand Hariharan <mailto.anand.hariharan@gmail.com> writes:

> On Friday, October 29, 2021 at 10:04:37 AM UTC-5, Meredith Montgomery wrote:
>> Malcolm McLean <malcolm.ar...@gmail.com> writes: 
>> 
>> > On Friday, 29 October 2021 at 14:02:36 UTC+1, Ben Bacarisse wrote: 
>> >> Malcolm McLean <malcolm.ar...@gmail.com> writes: 
>> >> 
>> >> > In C++, the term "vector" is misused quite badly to refer to an 
>> >> > array. That's because early on in the development of the standard 
>> >> > template library, the identifier "array" was used for an 
>> >> > inconvenient 
>> >> > container that is seldom used, creating the need for another name to 
>> >> > use for the normal array type. 
>> >> What was array used for in the early STL? std::array is present in 
>> >> recent versions of C++, but I don't know of the earlier usage. 
>> >> 
>> > I've checked and it appears I was wrong. The inconvenient type was 
>> > "valarray" 
>> > (an array constrained to hold scalars). "array" was avoided because of 
>> > the use 
>> > of the term in the C standard. 
>> > However Alex Stepanov (the man responsible for the STL) later said he had 
>> > made a mistake by choosing the identifier "vector".
>> Oh, nice. Can you locate the reference? I just searched every 
>> interview of his from the interviews-section at 
>> 
>> http://stepanovpapers.com/ 
>> 
>> and did not find any comment to that effect. Thank you!
>
> He talks about this some 7' into this ~1 hour long video:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etZgaSjzqlU

Nice.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etZgaSjzqlU&t=412s

> Also Stroustrup (in TC++PL) says it has to do with how terminology evolved.

Thank you so much!

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on ``vector'' and ``array'' Meredith Montgomery <mmontgomery@levado.to> - 2021-10-29 01:00 -0300
  Re: on ``vector'' and ``array'' Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2021-10-28 21:29 -0700
  Re: on ``vector'' and ``array'' Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2021-10-29 04:42 -0700
    Re: on ``vector'' and ``array'' Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2021-10-29 14:02 +0100
      Re: on ``vector'' and ``array'' Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2021-10-29 06:58 -0700
        Re: on ``vector'' and ``array'' Meredith Montgomery <mmontgomery@levado.to> - 2021-10-29 12:02 -0300
          Re: on ``vector'' and ``array'' Anand Hariharan <mailto.anand.hariharan@gmail.com> - 2021-10-30 09:33 -0700
            Re: on ``vector'' and ``array'' Meredith Montgomery <mmontgomery@levado.to> - 2021-10-30 15:29 -0300
            Re: on ``vector'' and ``array'' Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2021-10-30 13:25 -0700
              Re: on ``vector'' and ``array'' Meredith Montgomery <mmontgomery@levado.to> - 2021-10-31 12:02 -0300
        Re: on ``vector'' and ``array'' Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2021-10-29 16:38 +0100
    Re: on ``vector'' and ``array'' Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2021-10-29 11:08 -0700

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