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Re: just a curiosity about starting array indexing at 0 as opposed to 1

From James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: just a curiosity about starting array indexing at 0 as opposed to 1
Date 2015-11-22 11:04 -0500
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On 11/22/2015 07:54 AM, see.my.homepage@gmail.com wrote:
> 
>> Just a curiosity about C starting array subscripts at 0 as
>> opposed to starting at 1.
> 
> Another curiosity is why most programmers think that the starting
> point must be forced on them by the programming language instead of
> being part of the array definition, provided by the programmer.

I don't believe that "most programmers" feel that way. Instead, I think
that most programmers are unaware of the issue. Of the programmers who
are aware of it, I suspect that most of them feel only that some
programming languages DO force the choice of the starting point; not
that those languages MUST force the choice.

> It is reasonable that the programmer might want to *choose* his array
> starting index, for whatever reason. But it is unreasonable to expect
> that the choice will be already made for us (that is, there will be
> no choice), whatever that number is.

When an expectation that you label "unreasonable" is in fact true of
many popular languages, I'd recommend reevaluating your reasons for
considering it "unreasonable" - the designers of those languages thought
they had reasons, and the users of those languages didn't find that
feature sufficiently objectionable to refuse to use them.

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just a curiosity about starting array indexing at 0 as opposed to 1 G G <gdotone@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 18:50 -0800
  Re: just a curiosity about starting array indexing at 0 as opposed to 1 supercat@casperkitty.com - 2015-11-21 19:31 -0800
    Re: just a curiosity about starting array indexing at 0 as opposed to 1 Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-22 00:15 -0800
      Re: just a curiosity about starting array indexing at 0 as opposed to 1 supercat@casperkitty.com - 2015-11-22 07:20 -0800
        Re: just a curiosity about starting array indexing at 0 as opposed to 1 BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-11-22 16:22 +0000
          Re: just a curiosity about starting array indexing at 0 as opposed to 1 supercat@casperkitty.com - 2015-11-22 08:44 -0800
    Re: just a curiosity about starting array indexing at 0 as opposed to 1 Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2015-11-22 10:37 -0500
      Re: just a curiosity about starting array indexing at 0 as opposed to 1 BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-11-22 15:50 +0000
        Re: just a curiosity about starting array indexing at 0 as opposed to 1 Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2015-11-22 11:02 -0500
          Re: just a curiosity about starting array indexing at 0 as opposed to 1 BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-11-22 16:15 +0000
  Re: just a curiosity about starting array indexing at 0 as opposed to 1 Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-11-22 16:42 +1300
    Re: just a curiosity about starting array indexing at 0 as opposed to 1 G G <gdotone@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 19:55 -0800
    Re: just a curiosity about starting array indexing at 0 as opposed to 1 Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-11-23 11:01 -0800
      Re: just a curiosity about starting array indexing at 0 as opposed to 1 BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-11-23 19:18 +0000
        Re: just a curiosity about starting array indexing at 0 as opposed to 1 Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-11-23 11:26 -0800
          Re: just a curiosity about starting array indexing at 0 as opposed to 1 glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2015-11-23 22:54 +0000
            Re: just a curiosity about starting array indexing at 0 as opposed to 1 Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-23 18:37 -0600
              Re: just a curiosity about starting array indexing at 0 as opposed to 1 raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2015-11-24 15:22 +0000
      Re: just a curiosity about starting array indexing at 0 as opposed to 1 raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2015-11-24 15:13 +0000
  Re: just a curiosity about starting array indexing at 0 as opposed to 1 Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2015-11-22 01:21 -0500
    Re: just a curiosity about starting array indexing at 0 as opposed to 1 glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2015-11-22 15:00 +0000
      Re: just a curiosity about starting array indexing at 0 as opposed to 1 Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2015-11-22 10:15 -0500
        Re: just a curiosity about starting array indexing at 0 as opposed to 1 glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2015-11-23 13:47 +0000
          Re: just a curiosity about starting array indexing at 0 as opposed to 1 BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-11-23 14:50 +0000
            Re: just a curiosity about starting array indexing at 0 as opposed to 1 Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2015-11-23 12:01 -0500
              Re: just a curiosity about starting array indexing at 0 as opposed to 1 James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-11-23 12:12 -0500
                Re: just a curiosity about starting array indexing at 0 as opposed to 1 Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2015-11-23 12:57 -0500
            Re: just a curiosity about starting array indexing at 0 as opposed to 1 glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2015-11-23 23:08 +0000
          Re: just a curiosity about starting array indexing at 0 as opposed to 1 bert <bert.hutchings@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-23 08:52 -0800
      Re: just a curiosity about starting array indexing at 0 as opposed to 1 BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-11-22 15:42 +0000
        Re: just a curiosity about starting array indexing at 0 as opposed to 1 Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-11-22 12:36 -0800
        Re: just a curiosity about starting array indexing at 0 as opposed to 1 BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-11-22 21:06 +0000
  Re: just a curiosity about starting array indexing at 0 as opposed to 1 BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-11-22 10:28 +0000
    Re: just a curiosity about starting array indexing at 0 as opposed to 1 gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2015-11-22 12:04 +0000
  Re: just a curiosity about starting array indexing at 0 as opposed to 1 Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2015-11-22 11:24 +0000
    Re: just a curiosity about starting array indexing at 0 as opposed to 1 G G <gdotone@gmail.com> - 2015-11-22 04:29 -0800
  Re: just a curiosity about starting array indexing at 0 as opposed to 1 see.my.homepage@gmail.com - 2015-11-22 04:54 -0800
    Re: just a curiosity about starting array indexing at 0 as opposed to 1 BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-11-22 13:43 +0000
    Re: just a curiosity about starting array indexing at 0 as opposed to 1 James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-11-22 11:04 -0500
  Re: just a curiosity about starting array indexing at 0 as opposed to 1 Jens Stuckelberger <Jens_Stuckelberger@nowhere.net> - 2015-11-22 15:29 +0000
  Re: just a curiosity about starting array indexing at 0 as opposed to 1 Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-11-22 14:06 -0800
  Re: just a curiosity about starting array indexing at 0 as opposed to 1 John Bode <jfbode1029@gmail.com> - 2015-11-23 07:49 -0800

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