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| From | James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.c |
| Subject | Re: terminal designed for C |
| Date | 2012-12-17 15:51 -0500 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <50CF85CF.1050101@verizon.net> (permalink) |
| References | (14 earlier) <dda13ffb-bf74-4a34-95df-8042c4f7bf5f@googlegroups.com> <k6fi5e$c6r$1@dont-email.me> <lnzk38s3vm.fsf@nuthaus.mib.org> <kfn38z4ikg5.fsf@x-alumni2.alumni.caltech.edu> <ln7gogifvk.fsf@nuthaus.mib.org> |
On 12/17/2012 03:27 PM, Keith Thompson wrote: > Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> writes: >> Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> writes: >>> James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> writes: ... >>>> No, that isn't the case. A C99 compiler need not conform to C90, and >>>> need not even have a option to do so. It may even be impossible to >>>> conform to both simultaneously, though I'd have to think about that for >>>> a while to be sure. >>> >>> Hmm. I think it would be possible for a compiler to conform to both C90 >>> and C99, though it would be ugly. [snip elaboration] >> >> Can't be done, because there are programs that are well-defined >> in both languages but have different semantics in the two cases. > > I'd be interested in seeing an example. Reviewing the list of changes from C90 in paragraph 5 of the Forward to n1256.pdf, it seems as though most of the differences took the form of giving defined behavior to code that was a syntax error, a constraint violation, or had undefined behavior in C90. In a few cases the opposite occurred. None of those cases is a barrier to simultaneous conformance: give the constructs the meaning required by one version of the standard, after generating the diagnostic (if any) required by the other version. It requires more knowledge than I possess about C90 to determine whether any of these cases would actually prevent simultaneous conformance: Is there any context where UCNs are allowed in C99, where they would also have been permitted in C90 with a conflicting interpretation? It merely says that the integer constant type rules and the promotion rules change. Is there any case where those changes could not be rendered invisible by suitable choices for the values of *_MAX from <limits.h>?
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terminal designed for C kerravon <kerravon@w3.to> - 2012-10-22 21:19 -0700
Re: terminal designed for C Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2012-10-22 23:34 -0500
Re: terminal designed for C kerravon <kerravon@w3.to> - 2012-10-22 21:56 -0700
Re: terminal designed for C Sjouke Burry <s@b> - 2012-10-23 14:42 +0000
Re: terminal designed for C Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-10-23 13:06 -0700
Re: terminal designed for C kerravon <kerravon@w3.to> - 2012-10-23 15:46 -0700
Re: terminal designed for C Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2012-10-23 20:29 -0400
Re: terminal designed for C Lew Pitcher <lpitcher@teksavvy.com> - 2012-10-23 21:26 -0400
Re: terminal designed for C kerravon <kerravon@w3.to> - 2012-10-24 02:59 -0700
Re: terminal designed for C Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2012-10-24 14:15 -0400
Re: terminal designed for C Lew Pitcher <lpitcher@teksavvy.com> - 2012-10-24 17:23 -0400
Re: terminal designed for C Lew Pitcher <lpitcher@teksavvy.com> - 2012-10-23 18:55 -0400
Re: terminal designed for C Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-10-23 19:56 -0700
Re: terminal designed for C kerravon <kerravon@w3.to> - 2012-10-24 16:10 -0700
Re: terminal designed for C Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2012-10-24 20:15 -0400
Re: terminal designed for C Lew Pitcher <lpitcher@teksavvy.com> - 2012-10-24 21:13 -0400
Re: terminal designed for C kerravon <kerravon@w3.to> - 2012-10-24 21:09 -0700
Re: terminal designed for C "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-10-25 11:29 +0100
Re: terminal designed for C kerravon <kerravon@w3.to> - 2012-10-25 03:51 -0700
Re: terminal designed for C James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-10-25 08:49 -0400
Re: terminal designed for C Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2012-10-25 09:04 -0400
Re: terminal designed for C kerravon <kerravon@w3.to> - 2012-10-25 14:11 -0700
Re: terminal designed for C Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2012-10-25 17:29 -0400
Re: terminal designed for C kerravon <kerravon@w3.to> - 2012-10-26 03:33 -0700
Re: terminal designed for C Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-10-26 12:35 +0100
Re: terminal designed for C kerravon <kerravon@w3.to> - 2012-10-26 15:46 -0700
Re: terminal designed for C Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-10-26 17:11 -0700
Re: terminal designed for C kerravon <kerravon@w3.to> - 2012-10-26 17:27 -0700
Re: terminal designed for C Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-10-27 13:39 +1300
Re: terminal designed for C kerravon <kerravon@w3.to> - 2012-10-26 18:30 -0700
Re: terminal designed for C James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-10-26 22:50 -0400
Re: terminal designed for C Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-10-27 01:42 -0700
Re: terminal designed for C James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-10-27 19:18 -0400
Re: terminal designed for C Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2012-12-17 10:48 -0800
Re: terminal designed for C Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-12-17 12:27 -0800
Re: terminal designed for C James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-12-17 15:51 -0500
Re: terminal designed for C Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-12-17 13:35 -0800
Re: terminal designed for C James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-12-17 16:48 -0500
Re: terminal designed for C Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2012-12-17 14:53 -0600
Re: terminal designed for C Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-12-17 13:20 -0800
Re: terminal designed for C Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2012-12-20 10:19 -0800
Re: terminal designed for C Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-10-27 02:35 +0100
Re: terminal designed for C kerravon <kerravon@w3.to> - 2012-10-26 18:58 -0700
Re: terminal designed for C Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-10-27 05:01 +0100
Re: terminal designed for C Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2012-10-27 00:56 -0500
Re: terminal designed for C James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-10-26 09:03 -0400
Re: terminal designed for C Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-10-26 11:13 -0700
Re: terminal designed for C kerravon <kerravon@w3.to> - 2012-10-26 15:15 -0700
Re: terminal designed for C lawrence.jones@siemens.com - 2012-11-12 18:08 -0500
Re: terminal designed for C falk@rahul.net (Edward A. Falk) - 2012-10-24 17:29 +0000
Re: terminal designed for C Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-10-24 11:55 -0700
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