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| From | James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.c |
| Subject | Re: addresses of variables |
| Date | 2012-03-19 14:30 -0400 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <4F677B52.4020500@verizon.net> (permalink) |
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On 03/19/2012 01:55 PM, Stephen Sprunk wrote:
> On 19-Mar-12 09:52, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
>> Zero <chefmuetze@web.de> writes:
>>> Thank you!
>>
>> Note, however, that by printing the addresses, that code may have
>> changed how the compiler would otherwise have stored the variables.
>
> The Uncertainty Principle applied to C? Good job!
>
>> This isn't just compiler-dependent; it tends to be very sensitive to
>> optimization, as well.
>
> Indeed; this is a very basic optimization. Any decent compiler will try
> to eliminate variables, where possible, and to store the ones it can't
> in registers. Taking the address of a variable, though, forces that
> variable to be stored in memory.
Sort-of. Because of the as-if principle, &variable doesn't have to
actually identify the location (if any) where the variable is stored
unless some other part of the program would make the failure of the
program to store it there detectable.
For instance, if two non-overlapping objects have overlapping lifetimes,
and the program prints out the values of pointers to those two objects,
the print outs must identify different memory locations. If those
addresses are compared for equality, they must compare unequal. If such
a pointer is dereferenced, the behavior must be the same as if it
actually pointed at the object it's supposed to refer to. However, if
none of those things occur, printf("%p\n", (void*)&object) can print
just about any arbitrary memory location that is not, detectably,
currently in use for some other purpose, regardless of how (or whether)
the variable is actually stored.
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addresses of variables Zero <chefmuetze@web.de> - 2012-03-18 03:56 -0700
Re: addresses of variables "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-03-18 11:18 +0000
Re: addresses of variables jt@toerring.de (Jens Thoms Toerring) - 2012-03-18 11:18 +0000
Re: addresses of variables pete <pfiland@mindspring.com> - 2012-03-18 07:30 -0500
Re: addresses of variables Zero <chefmuetze@web.de> - 2012-03-18 04:42 -0700
Re: addresses of variables Lowell Gilbert <lgusenet@be-well.ilk.org> - 2012-03-19 10:52 -0400
Re: addresses of variables Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2012-03-19 12:55 -0500
Re: addresses of variables James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-03-19 14:30 -0400
Re: addresses of variables jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-03-19 20:11 +0100
Re: addresses of variables hoganlong@gmail.com - 2012-03-19 12:17 -0700
Re: addresses of variables James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-03-19 16:15 -0400
Re: addresses of variables hoganlong@gmail.com - 2012-03-19 14:18 -0700
Re: addresses of variables "io_x" <a@b.c.invalid> - 2012-03-19 23:26 +0100
Re: addresses of variables Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2012-03-20 03:52 -0500
Re: addresses of variables James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-03-20 06:00 -0400
Re: addresses of variables Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2012-03-20 16:47 -0500
Re: addresses of variables James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-03-20 18:37 -0400
Re: addresses of variables Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2012-03-21 17:58 -0500
Re: addresses of variables James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-03-21 20:24 -0400
Re: addresses of variables Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2012-03-21 23:53 -0500
Re: addresses of variables James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-03-22 06:22 -0400
Re: addresses of variables Kenneth Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net> - 2012-03-22 12:01 -0400
Re: addresses of variables Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2012-03-24 16:09 -0500
Re: addresses of variables Jens Gustedt <jens.gustedt@loria.fr> - 2012-03-23 13:41 +0100
Re: addresses of variables James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-03-23 09:06 -0400
Re: addresses of variables Jens Gustedt <jens.gustedt@loria.fr> - 2012-03-23 19:47 +0100
Re: addresses of variables James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-03-23 16:04 -0400
Re: addresses of variables Jens Gustedt <jens.gustedt@loria.fr> - 2012-03-24 00:19 +0100
Re: addresses of variables James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-03-23 22:20 -0400
Re: addresses of variables Jens Gustedt <jens.gustedt@loria.fr> - 2012-03-24 09:39 +0100
Re: addresses of variables Anders Wegge Keller <wegge@wegge.dk> - 2012-03-20 20:02 +0100
Re: addresses of variables James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-03-20 15:18 -0400
Re: addresses of variables Anders Wegge Keller <wegge@wegge.dk> - 2012-03-21 21:37 +0100
Re: addresses of variables Lowell Gilbert <lgusenet@be-well.ilk.org> - 2012-03-20 11:52 -0400
Re: addresses of variables Kenneth Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net> - 2012-03-21 11:04 -0400
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