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Re: Which operation is more expensive?(a <= b and a != 0)

From James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: Which operation is more expensive?(a <= b and a != 0)
Date 2012-03-12 10:13 -0400
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On 03/12/2012 09:24 AM, gwowen wrote:
> On Mar 12, 12:59 pm, James Kuyper <jameskuy...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> On 03/12/2012 03:05 AM, Harald van Dijk wrote:
>>
>>> On Mar 12, 12:08 am, Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demun...@yahoo.co.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>> j...@panix.com (Joe keane) writes:
>>>>> , but maybe running zero times is fine.
>>
>>>>> beg = 8;
>>>>> end = 6;
>>>>> for (j = beg; j < end; j++)
>>>>> ...
>>
>>>> Ewwwww, integer overflow. Were you attemting to put forward a case
>>>> *for* the use of unsigned integers, as at least you'd know that you'd
>>>> wrap.
>>
>>> Maybe I'm being daft, but when does this overflow?
>>
>> When the j++ expression is executed with j==INT_MAX, which will happen
>> unless something is done inside the loop to prevent it from happening.
>> Were you perhaps thinking of beg=6, end=8?
> 
> It says "j < end" not "j != end"

No, my misreading of that code was more complicated than that - but it's
not worth going into. Harald was right, and Phil and I were both wrong -
the code shown does not result in overflow.

The code shown is probably defective; as written either beg and end are
reversed, or the loop was meant to go downward. However, if beg=8 and
end=6 are simplifications for more complicated statements that,
depending upon the values of the other variables, sometimes result in
beg < end, the more complicated statements could be part of a reasonable
program.

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  Re: Which operation is more expensive?(a <= b and a != 0) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-02-27 16:47 -0500
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  Re: Which operation is more expensive?(a <= b and a != 0) Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-02-27 13:54 -0800
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    Re: Which operation is more expensive?(a <= b and a != 0) Kenneth Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net> - 2012-03-03 15:58 -0500
  Re: Which operation is more expensive?(a <= b and a != 0) Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-02-27 14:17 -0800
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  Re: Which operation is more expensive?(a <= b and a != 0) Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2012-02-27 19:18 -0700
    Re: Which operation is more expensive?(a <= b and a != 0) China Blue Sea <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2012-02-27 18:30 -0800
  Re: Which operation is more expensive?(a <= b and a != 0) "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-02-28 13:22 +0000
  Re: Which operation is more expensive?(a <= b and a != 0) Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2012-02-28 13:38 -0600
  Re: Which operation is more expensive?(a <= b and a != 0) jgk@panix.com (Joe keane) - 2012-02-28 22:35 +0000
    Re: Which operation is more expensive?(a <= b and a != 0) Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demunged@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-03-03 01:36 +0200
      Re: Which operation is more expensive?(a <= b and a != 0) jgk@panix.com (Joe keane) - 2012-03-05 20:03 +0000
        Re: Which operation is more expensive?(a <= b and a != 0) Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demunged@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-03-12 01:08 +0200
          Re: Which operation is more expensive?(a <= b and a != 0) Harald van Dijk <haraldvdijk@gmail.com> - 2012-03-12 00:05 -0700
            Re: Which operation is more expensive?(a <= b and a != 0) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-03-12 08:59 -0400
              Re: Which operation is more expensive?(a <= b and a != 0) gwowen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2012-03-12 06:24 -0700
                Re: Which operation is more expensive?(a <= b and a != 0) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-03-12 10:13 -0400
                Re: Which operation is more expensive?(a <= b and a != 0) Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-03-12 10:44 -0700
                Re: Which operation is more expensive?(a <= b and a != 0) Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demunged@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-03-13 17:12 +0200
          Re: Which operation is more expensive?(a <= b and a != 0) Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-03-12 11:20 -0700

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