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Re: C Programming Language 2nd Ed, Exercise 1.9 and 1.12, Solution suggestion.

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On 2014-06-11, Richard Bos <raltbos@xs4all.nl> wrote:
> Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demunged@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) writes:
>> > Shunned is slightly too strong. _Slightly_. You'd have to have a very
>> > good reason to use it. It's not _as_ bad as gets(), but certainly worse
>> > than goto. goto can be put to good use in, e.g., a state machine, and
>> > only Lisps advocates and Pascal users would complain,
>> 
>> Lisp had GOTO before C's parents had even met each other.
>
> Yeah, but don't tell a Lisp advocate that. Advocate as opposed to normal
> user - you know the kind, claims that there hasn't been a good
> programming language since Lisp (even Scheme is a bit dodgy), you can't
> do anything in C that you can't do better in Lisp, you can't do tail
> recursion in an assembler language like C (don't need to, he should say,
> and anyway it's wrong), and anyway GOTO is dirty.

Every decent Common Lisp advocate I know (including myself) touts
TAGBODY/PROG and GO as useful features, and in fact the best representation for
certain problems, and a necessary target target language for making certain
kinds of macros as efficient as possible.

Implementations of the ANSI CL LOOP macro usually make use of GO.

> Why would you accuse
> Lisp of having GOTO? Lisp is the only structured programming language in
> the world! It's dirty hacks like C which use GOTO!!!!!1!

Ah, that sounds more like a Scheme advocate than a Lisp advocate.

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C Programming Language 2nd Ed, Exercise 1.9 and 1.12, Solution suggestion. Christos Kokaliaris <chrisk.msor@gmail.com> - 2014-06-09 12:12 -0700
  Re: C Programming Language 2nd Ed, Exercise 1.9 and 1.12, Solution suggestion. Christos Kokaliaris <chrisk.msor@gmail.com> - 2014-06-09 12:41 -0700
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