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Re: AVL tree insertion - programming exercise

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Subject Re: AVL tree insertion - programming exercise
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In article <20261010190833.00007268@yahoo.com>,
Michael S  <already5chosen@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 9 Oct 2026 16:48:21 -0000 (UTC)
>cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) wrote:
>
>> In article <20261009174739.00006700@yahoo.com>,
>> Michael S  <already5chosen@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >On Fri, 9 Oct 2026 12:38:04 -0000 (UTC)
>> >cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) wrote:  
>> >> Knuth is a wonderful object of study, but I do not recommend it.  
>> >
>> >Disagreed.  
>> 
>> Lacking a lot of information here.
>> 
>> Which part of what I wrote, most of which you snipped, do you
>> disagree with, specifically?  Would You recommend TAOCP as a
>> reference for working programmers?  What about it do you like?
>> Is there anything about it that you do not like?
>> 
>> Perhaps I should clarify: I recommend _studying_ it. 
>
>That's better.

Better?  Better would be to preserve context and add useful
information to the thread.

You quoted the part where I sayd, "Knuth is a wonderful object
of study" and then replied with the single, information-free,
word, "Disagreed", leaving it totally ambiguous whether you
disagreed with that or with my saying that "I do not recommend
it."

>> I do not
>> recommend it as an everyday reference for programmers, nor for
>> learning data structures and algorithms;
>
>It is still the best reference for *some* data structures and
>algorithms. Not necessarily something that is still practically
>important. In particular, I am thinking about external sortng.

CLRS covers external sorting, or did in earlier editions.

>> I thought that would
>> have been obvious from the context that you omitted.
>
>No, it was not.

To you.

Let's look at your response and the context your preserved.

Given that "Knuth is a wonderful object of study, but I do not
recommend it", your response was either factually incorrect, or
a statement of your own dislike of studying Knuth.  Which was
true depends on which part of my statement you disagreed with.

If the second part, that I do not recommend Knuth, then
"Disagreed" would mean that you think I _am_ recommending it, in
direct contradiction of what I had just said; that would be
factually incorrect.

If "Disagreed" with the _first_ part, then you are saying you
disagree that Knuth is a, "wonderful object of study."  If that
is the case, just say so.

>What I find especially embarrassing in above conversation between David
>and yourself is likening of TAoCP to K&R. 
>K&R is just another book of rather average quality that turned important
>only because,  by lucky twist of history, the language it describes
>became extremely popular.
>OTOH, TAoCP is a monument.

Cool, man. Cool.

	- Dan C.

(If he saw this, Don would roll his eyes.)

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  Re: AVL tree insertion - programming exercise fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2026-10-07 15:25 +0200
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      Re: AVL tree insertion - programming exercise fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2026-10-07 21:28 +0200
        Re: AVL tree insertion - programming exercise Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-10-08 05:31 -0700
          Re: AVL tree insertion - programming exercise fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2026-10-09 11:12 +0200
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      Re: AVL tree insertion - programming exercise BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-10-07 20:10 -0500
        Re: AVL tree insertion - programming exercise Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-10-08 05:56 -0700
          Re: AVL tree insertion - programming exercise BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-10-08 15:09 -0500
            Re: AVL tree insertion - programming exercise fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2026-10-08 22:56 +0200
              Re: AVL tree insertion - programming exercise BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-10-08 17:29 -0500
                Re: AVL tree insertion - programming exercise fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2026-10-09 09:56 +0200
            Re: AVL tree insertion - programming exercise Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-10-09 01:39 +0200
              Re: AVL tree insertion - programming exercise Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-10-09 00:03 -0700
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                Re: AVL tree insertion - programming exercise Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-10-09 12:27 +0200
                Re: AVL tree insertion - programming exercise David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-10-09 12:59 +0200
                Re: AVL tree insertion - programming exercise bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-10-09 11:43 +0100
                Re: AVL tree insertion - programming exercise David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-10-09 13:20 +0200
                Re: AVL tree insertion - programming exercise cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-10-09 12:38 +0000
                Re: AVL tree insertion - programming exercise David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-10-09 16:05 +0200
                Re: AVL tree insertion - programming exercise Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-10-09 17:54 +0200
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                Re: AVL tree insertion - programming exercise cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-10-09 19:48 +0000
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                Re: AVL tree insertion - programming exercise David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-10-10 15:27 +0200
                Re: AVL tree insertion - programming exercise Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-10-09 17:47 +0300
                Re: AVL tree insertion - programming exercise cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-10-09 16:48 +0000
                Re: AVL tree insertion - programming exercise Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-10-10 19:08 +0300
                Re: AVL tree insertion - programming exercise David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-10-10 18:29 +0200
                Re: AVL tree insertion - programming exercise cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-10-10 17:44 +0000
                Re: AVL tree insertion - programming exercise David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-10-10 23:22 +0200
                Re: AVL tree insertion - programming exercise cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-10-10 17:43 +0000
                Re: AVL tree insertion - programming exercise Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-10-10 20:35 +0200
                Re: AVL tree insertion - programming exercise cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-10-10 19:36 +0000
                Re: AVL tree insertion - programming exercise Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-10-10 22:08 +0200
                Re: AVL tree insertion - programming exercise Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-10-10 23:21 +0300
                Re: AVL tree insertion - programming exercise cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-10-10 20:55 +0000
                Re: AVL tree insertion - programming exercise scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-10-10 20:22 +0000
                Re: AVL tree insertion - programming exercise Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-10-10 23:32 +0300
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