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Started byBonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com>
First post2022-05-29 02:59 +0200
Last post2022-06-01 18:39 +0200
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  Wikipedia Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-05-29 02:59 +0200
    Re: Wikipedia Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2022-05-29 05:46 +0000
      Re: Wikipedia Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-05-29 08:03 +0200
        Re: Wikipedia Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-05-29 08:34 +0200
        Re: Wikipedia Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2022-05-29 01:36 -0700
          Re: Wikipedia Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-05-29 10:37 +0200
            Re: Wikipedia Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2022-05-29 02:09 -0700
              Re: Wikipedia Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-05-29 11:16 +0200
                Re: Wikipedia Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2022-05-29 03:08 -0700
                  Re: Wikipedia Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-05-29 12:44 +0200
                Re: Wikipedia Paavo Helde <eesnimi@osa.pri.ee> - 2022-05-29 16:05 +0300
                  Re: Wikipedia Freethinker <freethinker@mymail.com> - 2022-05-29 15:19 +0200
                  Re: Wikipedia Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-05-29 15:27 +0200
                    Re: Wikipedia Manu Raju <MR@invalid.invalid> - 2022-05-29 17:26 +0100
                      Re: Wikipedia Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-05-29 19:18 +0200
                      Re: Wikipedia scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2022-05-29 17:49 +0000
                      Re: Wikipedia Manfred <noname@add.invalid> - 2022-05-30 00:25 +0200
                        Re: Wikipedia Popping Mad <rainbow@colition.gov> - 2022-06-04 13:00 -0400
                          Re: Wikipedia Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-06-04 19:19 +0200
              Re: Wikipedia Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-05-29 11:48 +0200
            Re: Wikipedia Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2022-05-30 06:06 +0000
              Re: Wikipedia Popping Mad <rainbow@colition.gov> - 2022-06-04 13:02 -0400
      Re: Wikipedia Manu Raju <MR@invalid.invalid> - 2022-05-29 17:18 +0100
        Re: Wikipedia Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-05-29 18:22 +0200
          Re: Wikipedia Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2022-05-30 06:08 +0000
            Re: Wikipedia Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-05-31 04:41 +0200
        Re: Wikipedia Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2022-05-30 06:06 +0000
    Re: Wikipedia Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc.corp> - 2022-05-30 19:31 +0100
    Re: Wikipedia Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc.corp> - 2022-05-30 19:52 +0100
      Re: Wikipedia Manfred <noname@add.invalid> - 2022-05-31 14:34 +0200
        Re: Wikipedia Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-05-31 15:15 +0200
          Re: Wikipedia Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc.corp> - 2022-05-31 18:00 +0100
            Re: Wikipedia Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-05-31 19:06 +0200
              Re: Wikipedia Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc.corp> - 2022-05-31 18:43 +0100
                Re: Wikipedia Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-05-31 19:48 +0200
                  Re: Wikipedia David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-06-01 09:26 +0200
                    Re: Wikipedia Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-06-01 09:44 +0200
                      Re: Wikipedia Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2022-06-01 01:47 -0700
                        Re: Wikipedia Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-06-01 13:53 +0200
                          Re: Wikipedia David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-06-01 17:05 +0200
                            Re: Wikipedia Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-06-01 17:06 +0200
                          Re: Wikipedia Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2022-06-02 04:57 +0000
                            Re: Wikipedia Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-06-02 07:43 +0200
                              Re: Wikipedia Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2022-06-02 08:53 +0000
                                Re: Wikipedia Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-06-02 12:56 +0200
                                  Re: Wikipedia Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2022-06-02 12:46 +0000
                                    Re: Wikipedia Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-06-02 14:56 +0200
                                      Re: Wikipedia Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2022-06-03 04:14 +0000
                                        Re: Wikipedia Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-06-03 06:19 +0200
                                          Re: Wikipedia Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2022-06-03 04:26 +0000
                                          Re: Wikipedia Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc.corp> - 2022-06-03 14:22 +0100
                                            Re: Wikipedia Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-06-03 15:34 +0200
                                            Re: Wikipedia "daniel...@gmail.com" <danielaparker@gmail.com> - 2022-06-03 07:24 -0700
                                              Re: Wikipedia Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2022-06-03 14:56 +0000
                                                Re: Wikipedia "daniel...@gmail.com" <danielaparker@gmail.com> - 2022-06-03 08:06 -0700
                                                  Re: Wikipedia David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-06-03 17:30 +0200
                                                    Re: Wikipedia "daniel...@gmail.com" <danielaparker@gmail.com> - 2022-06-03 10:37 -0700
                                                      Re: Wikipedia David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-06-03 20:33 +0200
                                                        Re: Wikipedia scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2022-06-03 18:59 +0000
                                                          Re: Wikipedia "daniel...@gmail.com" <danielaparker@gmail.com> - 2022-06-03 12:35 -0700
                                                          Re: Wikipedia Freethinker <freethinker@mymail.com> - 2022-06-03 23:42 +0200
                                                            Re: Wikipedia Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-06-04 08:10 +0000
                                                        Re: Wikipedia "daniel...@gmail.com" <danielaparker@gmail.com> - 2022-06-03 11:59 -0700
                                                          Re: Wikipedia David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-06-04 15:27 +0200
                                                  Re: Wikipedia Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2022-06-04 15:31 +0000
                                              Re: Wikipedia Manfred <noname@add.invalid> - 2022-06-03 17:02 +0200
                                                Re: Wikipedia "daniel...@gmail.com" <danielaparker@gmail.com> - 2022-06-03 08:11 -0700
                                              Re: Wikipedia "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2022-06-03 14:23 -0700
                                    Re: Wikipedia Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-06-02 14:58 +0200
                                    Re: Wikipedia Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2022-06-04 08:00 -0700
                                  Re: Wikipedia David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-06-02 16:00 +0200
                                    Re: Wikipedia Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-06-02 16:09 +0200
                                      Re: Wikipedia Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-06-02 16:14 +0200
                                  Re: Wikipedia Popping Mad <rainbow@colition.gov> - 2022-06-04 13:20 -0400
                                    Re: Wikipedia Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-06-04 19:23 +0200
                                Re: Wikipedia Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2022-06-02 04:40 -0700
                                  Re: Wikipedia Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-06-02 14:00 +0200
                                    Re: Wikipedia Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2022-06-02 12:47 +0000
                                      Re: Wikipedia Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-06-02 14:59 +0200
                                        Re: Wikipedia Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2022-06-03 04:17 +0000
                                          Re: Wikipedia Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-06-03 06:20 +0200
                                            Re: Wikipedia Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2022-06-03 04:27 +0000
                                  Re: Wikipedia David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-06-02 16:13 +0200
                                    Re: Wikipedia Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2022-06-02 10:09 -0700
                                      Re: Wikipedia David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-06-02 22:35 +0200
                                        Re: Wikipedia Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2022-06-03 04:22 +0000
                                          Re: Wikipedia Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-06-03 06:23 +0200
                                            Re: Wikipedia Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2022-06-03 04:28 +0000
                                              Re: Wikipedia Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-06-03 06:35 +0200
                                                Re: Wikipedia Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2022-06-03 05:22 +0000
                                                  Re: Wikipedia Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-06-03 07:23 +0200
                                                    Re: Wikipedia "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2022-06-02 22:25 -0700
                                                      Re: Wikipedia Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-06-03 07:28 +0200
                                                        Re: Wikipedia "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2022-06-02 22:31 -0700
                                                          Re: Wikipedia Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2022-06-03 06:22 +0000
                                                            Re: Wikipedia Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-06-03 08:38 +0200
                                                              Re: Wikipedia Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2022-06-03 10:14 +0000
                                                      Re: Wikipedia "daniel...@gmail.com" <danielaparker@gmail.com> - 2022-06-03 06:32 -0700
                                                        Re: Wikipedia Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-06-03 15:35 +0200
                                                        Re: Wikipedia "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2022-06-03 14:12 -0700
                                          Re: Wikipedia David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-06-03 10:31 +0200
                                Re: Wikipedia Manfred <noname@add.invalid> - 2022-06-02 19:12 +0200
                                Re: Wikipedia Popping Mad <rainbow@colition.gov> - 2022-06-04 13:09 -0400
                            Re: Wikipedia Manu Raju <MR@invalid.invalid> - 2022-06-02 17:54 +0100
                              Re: Wikipedia Paavo Helde <eesnimi@osa.pri.ee> - 2022-06-02 20:40 +0300
                                Re: Wikipedia Manu Raju <MR@invalid.invalid> - 2022-06-02 18:50 +0100
                              Re: Wikipedia Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2022-06-03 04:25 +0000
                        Re: Wikipedia Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-06-01 14:21 +0200
                        Re: Wikipedia "daniel...@gmail.com" <danielaparker@gmail.com> - 2022-06-01 06:17 -0700
                          Re: Wikipedia Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-06-01 15:34 +0200
                            Re: Wikipedia "daniel...@gmail.com" <danielaparker@gmail.com> - 2022-06-01 07:13 -0700
                              Re: Wikipedia Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-06-01 16:55 +0200
                      Re: Wikipedia David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-06-01 16:29 +0200
                        Re: Wikipedia Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-06-01 16:56 +0200
                        Re: Wikipedia "daniel...@gmail.com" <danielaparker@gmail.com> - 2022-06-01 07:58 -0700
                          Re: Wikipedia Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-06-01 17:07 +0200
                            Re: Wikipedia David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-06-01 17:50 +0200
                              Re: Wikipedia Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-06-01 18:11 +0200
                          Re: Wikipedia David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-06-01 17:41 +0200
                          Re: Wikipedia Manfred <noname@add.invalid> - 2022-06-01 17:42 +0200
                            Re: Wikipedia "daniel...@gmail.com" <danielaparker@gmail.com> - 2022-06-01 09:12 -0700
                              Re: Wikipedia Manfred <noname@add.invalid> - 2022-06-01 18:35 +0200
                                Re: Wikipedia Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-06-01 18:36 +0200
                                  Re: Wikipedia Manfred <noname@add.invalid> - 2022-06-01 18:59 +0200
                                    Re: Wikipedia Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-06-01 19:04 +0200
                                Re: Wikipedia "daniel...@gmail.com" <danielaparker@gmail.com> - 2022-06-01 10:04 -0700
                                Re: Wikipedia Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2022-06-07 08:28 -0700
                              Re: Wikipedia David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-06-01 21:22 +0200
                                Re: Wikipedia "daniel...@gmail.com" <danielaparker@gmail.com> - 2022-06-01 13:43 -0700
                                  Re: Wikipedia David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-06-02 10:07 +0200
                            Re: Wikipedia Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2022-06-07 08:21 -0700
                              Re: Wikipedia "daniel...@gmail.com" <danielaparker@gmail.com> - 2022-06-10 07:18 -0700
                Re: Wikipedia muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-05-31 18:34 +0000
                  Re: Wikipedia Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc.corp> - 2022-05-31 19:37 +0100
                    Re: Wikipedia muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-05-31 18:42 +0000
                      Re: Wikipedia Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc.corp> - 2022-05-31 20:00 +0100
                        Re: Wikipedia muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-05-31 19:19 +0000
                          Re: Wikipedia Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc.corp> - 2022-05-31 20:28 +0100
                            Re: Wikipedia muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-06-01 18:07 +0000
                              Re: Wikipedia Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-06-01 20:28 +0200
                          Re: Wikipedia scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2022-05-31 19:37 +0000
                            Re: Wikipedia Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2022-05-31 21:27 +0100
                          Re: "std::" (was: Wikipedia) Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc.corp> - 2022-05-31 21:17 +0100
                            Re: "std::" (was: Wikipedia) Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-06-01 06:33 +0200
                          Re: Wikipedia David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-06-01 09:34 +0200
                    Re: Wikipedia Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-06-01 05:40 +0200
        Re: Wikipedia Manu Raju <MR@invalid.invalid> - 2022-05-31 17:18 +0100
          Re: Wikipedia Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-05-31 18:25 +0200
            Re: Wikipedia David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-06-01 09:38 +0200
              Re: Wikipedia Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-06-01 09:46 +0200
                Re: Wikipedia Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-06-01 10:16 +0200
                  Re: Wikipedia Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-06-01 10:21 +0200
                  Re: Wikipedia David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-06-01 17:13 +0200
                    Re: Wikipedia Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-06-01 17:15 +0200
                      Re: Wikipedia David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-06-01 18:12 +0200
                        Re: Wikipedia Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-06-01 18:18 +0200
                          Re: Wikipedia Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-06-01 18:39 +0200

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#84369

FromJuha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid>
Date2022-05-30 06:06 +0000
Message-ID<t71msr$1lan$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#84333
Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> wrote:
> Am 29.05.2022 um 10:36 schrieb Öö Tiib:
>> On Sunday, 29 May 2022 at 09:03:44 UTC+3, Bonita Montero wrote:
>>> Am 29.05.2022 um 07:46 schrieb Juha Nieminen:
>>>> Bonita Montero <Bonita....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> I added some lengthly code to the Wikipedia which helps to inject
>>>>> arbitrary code in to a foreign Win32-process.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DLL_injection#Sample_Code
>>>>>
>>>>> With that you can easily manipulate a foreign process from inside.
>>>>> Maybe you find some bugs or give the source documentation or the
>>>>> text that comes along the source code a smarter english.
>>>>
>>>> If you are going to add code to wikipedia, at least keep the
>>>> "using namespace std" bullshit out of it.
>>> Idiot.
>> 
>> Stop mirroring your health issues to others, it looks sad.
> 
> I don't have health problems except diabetes.
> But being so intolerant with others using "using"
> is simlpy compulsive and a sign of mental illness.

If you want to engage in bad programming habits in your code, go bananas.

But do not teach those bad habits to others.

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#84536

FromPopping Mad <rainbow@colition.gov>
Date2022-06-04 13:02 -0400
Message-ID<t7g391$2ic$2@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#84369
On 5/30/22 02:06, Juha Nieminen wrote:
> Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Am 29.05.2022 um 10:36 schrieb Öö Tiib:
>>> On Sunday, 29 May 2022 at 09:03:44 UTC+3, Bonita Montero wrote:
>>>> Am 29.05.2022 um 07:46 schrieb Juha Nieminen:
>>>>> Bonita Montero <Bonita....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> I added some lengthly code to the Wikipedia which helps to inject
>>>>>> arbitrary code in to a foreign Win32-process.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DLL_injection#Sample_Code
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With that you can easily manipulate a foreign process from inside.
>>>>>> Maybe you find some bugs or give the source documentation or the
>>>>>> text that comes along the source code a smarter english.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you are going to add code to wikipedia, at least keep the
>>>>> "using namespace std" bullshit out of it.
>>>> Idiot.
>>>
>>> Stop mirroring your health issues to others, it looks sad.
>>
>> I don't have health problems except diabetes.
>> But being so intolerant with others using "using"
>> is simlpy compulsive and a sign of mental illness.
> 
> If you want to engage in bad programming habits in your code, go bananas.
> 
> But do not teach those bad habits to others.


Wikipedea is anot a learning facility or a C++ textbook and it is fine
for sample coding.

Too much energy wasted on bullshit.

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#84355

FromManu Raju <MR@invalid.invalid>
Date2022-05-29 17:18 +0100
Message-ID<t706da$vqn$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#84325
On 29/05/2022 06:46, Juha Nieminen wrote:
> If you are going to add code to wikipedia, at least keep the
> "using namespace std" bullshit out of it.
>

If you think it is bullshit then you are free to open a free Wikipedia 
account and correct what you think is "bullshit".

There are no restrictions on what users post on it because others will 
step in and correct what they don't like. In rare cases the pages are 
locked. For example George Bush's history in office was locked because 
there were thousands and thousands of corrections and additions to that 
page. That's life on a platform that allows freedom of speech.

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#84356

FromBonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com>
Date2022-05-29 18:22 +0200
Message-ID<t706jn$149$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#84355
Am 29.05.2022 um 18:18 schrieb Manu Raju:
> On 29/05/2022 06:46, Juha Nieminen wrote:
>> If you are going to add code to wikipedia, at least keep the
>> "using namespace std" bullshit out of it.
>>
> 
> If you think it is bullshit then you are free to open a free Wikipedia 
> account and correct what you think is "bullshit".
> 
> There are no restrictions on what users post on it because others will 
> step in and correct what they don't like. In rare cases the pages are 
> locked. For example George Bush's history in office was locked because 
> there were thousands and thousands of corrections and additions to that 
> page. That's life on a platform that allows freedom of speech.

I'm wondering when this idiot begins to edit my source in the Wikipedia.

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#84371

FromJuha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid>
Date2022-05-30 06:08 +0000
Message-ID<t71n0j$1lan$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#84356
Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> wrote:
> Am 29.05.2022 um 18:18 schrieb Manu Raju:
>> On 29/05/2022 06:46, Juha Nieminen wrote:
>>> If you are going to add code to wikipedia, at least keep the
>>> "using namespace std" bullshit out of it.
>>>
>> 
>> If you think it is bullshit then you are free to open a free Wikipedia 
>> account and correct what you think is "bullshit".
>> 
>> There are no restrictions on what users post on it because others will 
>> step in and correct what they don't like. In rare cases the pages are 
>> locked. For example George Bush's history in office was locked because 
>> there were thousands and thousands of corrections and additions to that 
>> page. That's life on a platform that allows freedom of speech.
> 
> I'm wondering when this idiot begins to edit my source in the Wikipedia.

I must admit I feel a slight degree of glee at the thought of you being
paranoid about me editing your code in that page, and you checking it
at regular intervals for the foreseeable future.

Keep doing that. You never know *when* I will do that.

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#84383

FromBonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com>
Date2022-05-31 04:41 +0200
Message-ID<t73v7t$r2a$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#84371
Am 30.05.2022 um 08:08 schrieb Juha Nieminen:
> Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Am 29.05.2022 um 18:18 schrieb Manu Raju:
>>> On 29/05/2022 06:46, Juha Nieminen wrote:
>>>> If you are going to add code to wikipedia, at least keep the
>>>> "using namespace std" bullshit out of it.
>>>>
>>>
>>> If you think it is bullshit then you are free to open a free Wikipedia
>>> account and correct what you think is "bullshit".
>>>
>>> There are no restrictions on what users post on it because others will
>>> step in and correct what they don't like. In rare cases the pages are
>>> locked. For example George Bush's history in office was locked because
>>> there were thousands and thousands of corrections and additions to that
>>> page. That's life on a platform that allows freedom of speech.
>>
>> I'm wondering when this idiot begins to edit my source in the Wikipedia.
> 
> I must admit I feel a slight degree of glee at the thought of you being
> paranoid about me editing your code in that page, and you checking it
> at regular intervals for the foreseeable future.
> 
> Keep doing that. You never know *when* I will do that.

That's certain sign of your mental disorder.
People like you will _never_ be successful developers.

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#84370

FromJuha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid>
Date2022-05-30 06:06 +0000
Message-ID<t71mtp$1lan$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#84355
Manu Raju <MR@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 29/05/2022 06:46, Juha Nieminen wrote:
>> If you are going to add code to wikipedia, at least keep the
>> "using namespace std" bullshit out of it.
> 
> If you think it is bullshit then you are free to open a free Wikipedia 
> account and correct what you think is "bullshit".

I think we all know it would just result in an edit war.

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#84380

FromMr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc.corp>
Date2022-05-30 19:31 +0100
Message-ID<20220530193144.00002b1c@reddwarf.jmc.corp>
In reply to#84323
On Sun, 29 May 2022 02:59:28 +0200
Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> wrote:

> I added some lengthly code to the Wikipedia which helps to inject
> arbitrary code in to a foreign Win32-process.
> 
> 	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DLL_injection#Sample_Code
> 
> With that you can easily manipulate a foreign process from inside.
> Maybe you find some bugs or give the source documentation or the
> text that comes along the source code a smarter english.

Why are you doing "using namespace std;"? That is egregiously noobish;
I will edit it.

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#84381

FromMr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc.corp>
Date2022-05-30 19:52 +0100
Message-ID<20220530195216.0000551a@reddwarf.jmc.corp>
In reply to#84323
On Sun, 29 May 2022 02:59:28 +0200
Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> wrote:

> I added some lengthly code to the Wikipedia which helps to inject
> arbitrary code in to a foreign Win32-process.
> 
> 	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DLL_injection#Sample_Code
> 
> With that you can easily manipulate a foreign process from inside.
> Maybe you find some bugs or give the source documentation or the
> text that comes along the source code a smarter english.

I edited it removing "using namespace std;".

/Flibble

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#84385

FromManfred <noname@add.invalid>
Date2022-05-31 14:34 +0200
Message-ID<t7520c$1et7$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#84381
On 5/30/2022 8:52 PM, Mr Flibble wrote:
> On Sun, 29 May 2022 02:59:28 +0200
> Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I added some lengthly code to the Wikipedia which helps to inject
>> arbitrary code in to a foreign Win32-process.
>>
>> 	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DLL_injection#Sample_Code
>>
>> With that you can easily manipulate a foreign process from inside.
>> Maybe you find some bugs or give the source documentation or the
>> text that comes along the source code a smarter english.
> 
> I edited it removing "using namespace std;".
> 
> /Flibble
> 

... and she put it back.

Someone had anticipated this edit war - which was in fact easy to 
predict, given the known issues of the OP.

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#84386

FromBonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com>
Date2022-05-31 15:15 +0200
Message-ID<t754dt$d4g$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#84385
Am 31.05.2022 um 14:34 schrieb Manfred:
> On 5/30/2022 8:52 PM, Mr Flibble wrote:
>> On Sun, 29 May 2022 02:59:28 +0200
>> Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I added some lengthly code to the Wikipedia which helps to inject
>>> arbitrary code in to a foreign Win32-process.
>>>
>>>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DLL_injection#Sample_Code
>>>
>>> With that you can easily manipulate a foreign process from inside.
>>> Maybe you find some bugs or give the source documentation or the
>>> text that comes along the source code a smarter english.
>>
>> I edited it removing "using namespace std;".
>>
>> /Flibble
>>
> 
> ... and she put it back.
> 
> Someone had anticipated this edit war - which was in fact easy to 
> predict, given the known issues of the OP.

Wanting to enforce one's will in such things,
which are actually not a problem, is really disordered.

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#84389

FromMr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc.corp>
Date2022-05-31 18:00 +0100
Message-ID<20220531180032.000018e7@reddwarf.jmc.corp>
In reply to#84386
On Tue, 31 May 2022 15:15:55 +0200
Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> wrote:

> Am 31.05.2022 um 14:34 schrieb Manfred:
> > On 5/30/2022 8:52 PM, Mr Flibble wrote:  
> >> On Sun, 29 May 2022 02:59:28 +0200
> >> Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>  
> >>> I added some lengthly code to the Wikipedia which helps to inject
> >>> arbitrary code in to a foreign Win32-process.
> >>>
> >>>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DLL_injection#Sample_Code
> >>>
> >>> With that you can easily manipulate a foreign process from inside.
> >>> Maybe you find some bugs or give the source documentation or the
> >>> text that comes along the source code a smarter english.  
> >>
> >> I edited it removing "using namespace std;".
> >>
> >> /Flibble
> >>  
> > 
> > ... and she put it back.
> > 
> > Someone had anticipated this edit war - which was in fact easy to 
> > predict, given the known issues of the OP.  
> 
> Wanting to enforce one's will in such things,
> which are actually not a problem, is really disordered.

That is exactly what you are doing, dear. I have reverted your change
back to mine.

/Flibble

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#84390

FromBonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com>
Date2022-05-31 19:06 +0200
Message-ID<t75htr$rl8$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#84389
Am 31.05.2022 um 19:00 schrieb Mr Flibble:
> On Tue, 31 May 2022 15:15:55 +0200
> Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Am 31.05.2022 um 14:34 schrieb Manfred:
>>> On 5/30/2022 8:52 PM, Mr Flibble wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 29 May 2022 02:59:28 +0200
>>>> Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>   
>>>>> I added some lengthly code to the Wikipedia which helps to inject
>>>>> arbitrary code in to a foreign Win32-process.
>>>>>
>>>>>      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DLL_injection#Sample_Code
>>>>>
>>>>> With that you can easily manipulate a foreign process from inside.
>>>>> Maybe you find some bugs or give the source documentation or the
>>>>> text that comes along the source code a smarter english.
>>>>
>>>> I edited it removing "using namespace std;".
>>>>
>>>> /Flibble
>>>>   
>>>
>>> ... and she put it back.
>>>
>>> Someone had anticipated this edit war - which was in fact easy to
>>> predict, given the known issues of the OP.
>>
>> Wanting to enforce one's will in such things,
>> which are actually not a problem, is really disordered.
> 
> That is exactly what you are doing, dear. I have reverted your change
> back to mine.

No, that's not what I'm doing but what I'm fighting.
I would never dictate my programming styles to others.
But Josh does it in a way that you can say, that he
has real mental problems.

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#84391

FromMr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc.corp>
Date2022-05-31 18:43 +0100
Message-ID<20220531184340.000065fe@reddwarf.jmc.corp>
In reply to#84390
On Tue, 31 May 2022 19:06:17 +0200
Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> wrote:

> Am 31.05.2022 um 19:00 schrieb Mr Flibble:
> > On Tue, 31 May 2022 15:15:55 +0200
> > Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> wrote:
> >   
> >> Am 31.05.2022 um 14:34 schrieb Manfred:  
> >>> On 5/30/2022 8:52 PM, Mr Flibble wrote:  
> >>>> On Sun, 29 May 2022 02:59:28 +0200
> >>>> Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>     
> >>>>> I added some lengthly code to the Wikipedia which helps to
> >>>>> inject arbitrary code in to a foreign Win32-process.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DLL_injection#Sample_Code
> >>>>>
> >>>>> With that you can easily manipulate a foreign process from
> >>>>> inside. Maybe you find some bugs or give the source
> >>>>> documentation or the text that comes along the source code a
> >>>>> smarter english.  
> >>>>
> >>>> I edited it removing "using namespace std;".
> >>>>
> >>>> /Flibble
> >>>>     
> >>>
> >>> ... and she put it back.
> >>>
> >>> Someone had anticipated this edit war - which was in fact easy to
> >>> predict, given the known issues of the OP.  
> >>
> >> Wanting to enforce one's will in such things,
> >> which are actually not a problem, is really disordered.  
> > 
> > That is exactly what you are doing, dear. I have reverted your
> > change back to mine.  
> 
> No, that's not what I'm doing but what I'm fighting.
> I would never dictate my programming styles to others.
> But Josh does it in a way that you can say, that he
> has real mental problems.
 
It isn't a coding style: you are abusing namespaces by actually
going against their intended purpose.  "using namespace" should only
ever be used at function local scope or to inject a namespace into
another explict namespace (i.e. *not* global scope).

/Flibble

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#84392

FromBonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com>
Date2022-05-31 19:48 +0200
Message-ID<t75kc4$emq$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#84391
> It isn't a coding style: you are abusing namespaces by actually
> going against their intended purpose. ...

That's not true. The C++ Coding Guidelines encourage to use
"using namespace std" because the guidelines assume, that
developers are familiar with the names under std::.
And the reasons you give are pure pseudo-reasons to dictate
your personal taste - because you and others have a mental
problem to tend to a feeling of uncertainty.

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#84408

FromDavid Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>
Date2022-06-01 09:26 +0200
Message-ID<t774b9$9r0$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#84392
On 31/05/2022 19:48, Bonita Montero wrote:
>> It isn't a coding style: you are abusing namespaces by actually
>> going against their intended purpose. ...
> 
> That's not true. The C++ Coding Guidelines encourage to use
> "using namespace std" because the guidelines assume, that
> developers are familiar with the names under std::.
> And the reasons you give are pure pseudo-reasons to dictate
> your personal taste - because you and others have a mental
> problem to tend to a feeling of uncertainty.

The whole point of having standard library names in the "std::" 
namespace is that new versions of C++ can have more functions, classes 
and other identifiers added to /their/ namespace without conflicting 
with user code.

This means you could have written some code that was tested with C++14, 
and had your own class "optional".  When C++17 came out, people could 
compile it with a C++17 compiler without conflict - because the new 
standard library "optional" class is in the "std::" namespace and there 
is no conflict.

This is what allows the C++ standards folk to introduce new identifiers 
with convenient names, without reserving wide ranges of identifiers or 
using obscure and unpronounceable names as must be done in the C standards.


A global "using namespace std;" defeats that - it is shooting yourself 
in the foot and guaranteeing that your code will bit-rot and be unusable 
in the future, for no benefit.


As far as I can see, "using namespace std;" at file scope has only one 
good use - for converting old pre-"std::" code to work with newer 
standards with minimal textual changes.


For your own code, you can write things any way you want.  For code to 
be shown to or used by others, you should write in the clearest and most 
portable way you can - and that includes portable across time and 
standards versions, and being explicit about namespaces.

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#84411

FromBonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com>
Date2022-06-01 09:44 +0200
Message-ID<t775db$vp6$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#84408
> The whole point of having standard library names in the "std::" 
> namespace is that new versions of C++ can have more functions, classes 
> and other identifiers added to /their/ namespace without conflicting 
> with user code.
 > ...

You are also arguing with pseudo-reasons for the mental problems I
told. The C++ Core Guidelines encourage to use "using namespace std".
That's the whole story.

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#84415

FromÖö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee>
Date2022-06-01 01:47 -0700
Message-ID<3115054b-750c-4967-a1d3-871aeea8fdebn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#84411
On Wednesday, 1 June 2022 at 10:45:12 UTC+3, Bonita Montero wrote:
> > The whole point of having standard library names in the "std::" 
> > namespace is that new versions of C++ can have more functions, classes 
> > and other identifiers added to /their/ namespace without conflicting 
> > with user code.
> > ... 
> 
> You are also arguing with pseudo-reasons for the mental problems I 
> told. The C++ Core Guidelines encourage to use "using namespace std". 
> That's the whole story.

You are misrepresenting the C++ Core Guidelines. You quote that:
<https://isocpp.github.io/CppCoreGuidelines/CppCoreGuidelines#sf6-use-using-namespace-directives-for-transition-for-foundation-libraries-such-as-std-or-within-a-local-scope-only>
It starts with "should be used sparingly" because of the very same 
"pseudo-reason". 

| Reason: using namespace can lead to name clashes, so it should be used
| sparingly. 

These are your own mental problems that make you to misread it as 
"should be used in every snippet that you ever write as soon as possible". 
Stop mirroring your mental issues to others as it is sad.  

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#84416

FromBonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com>
Date2022-06-01 13:53 +0200
Message-ID<t77jvb$55v$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#84415
Am 01.06.2022 um 10:47 schrieb Öö Tiib:
> On Wednesday, 1 June 2022 at 10:45:12 UTC+3, Bonita Montero wrote:
>>> The whole point of having standard library names in the "std::"
>>> namespace is that new versions of C++ can have more functions, classes
>>> and other identifiers added to /their/ namespace without conflicting
>>> with user code.
>>> ...
>>
>> You are also arguing with pseudo-reasons for the mental problems I
>> told. The C++ Core Guidelines encourage to use "using namespace std".
>> That's the whole story.
> 
> You are misrepresenting the C++ Core Guidelines. You quote that:
> <https://isocpp.github.io/CppCoreGuidelines/CppCoreGuidelines#sf6-use-using-namespace-directives-for-transition-for-foundation-libraries-such-as-std-or-within-a-local-scope-only>
> It starts with "should be used sparingly" because of the very same
> "pseudo-reason".
> 
> | Reason: using namespace can lead to name clashes, so it should be used
> | sparingly.
> 
> These are your own mental problems that make you to misread it as
> "should be used in every snippet that you ever write as soon as possible".
> Stop mirroring your mental issues to others as it is sad.

"We assume knowledge of the standard library. For example,
we use plain vector rather than std::vector."

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#84431

FromDavid Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>
Date2022-06-01 17:05 +0200
Message-ID<t77v7f$f6t$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#84416
On 01/06/2022 13:53, Bonita Montero wrote:
> Am 01.06.2022 um 10:47 schrieb Öö Tiib:
>> On Wednesday, 1 June 2022 at 10:45:12 UTC+3, Bonita Montero wrote:
>>>> The whole point of having standard library names in the "std::"
>>>> namespace is that new versions of C++ can have more functions, classes
>>>> and other identifiers added to /their/ namespace without conflicting
>>>> with user code.
>>>> ...
>>>
>>> You are also arguing with pseudo-reasons for the mental problems I
>>> told. The C++ Core Guidelines encourage to use "using namespace std".
>>> That's the whole story.
>>
>> You are misrepresenting the C++ Core Guidelines. You quote that:
>> <https://isocpp.github.io/CppCoreGuidelines/CppCoreGuidelines#sf6-use-using-namespace-directives-for-transition-for-foundation-libraries-such-as-std-or-within-a-local-scope-only> 
>>
>> It starts with "should be used sparingly" because of the very same
>> "pseudo-reason".
>>
>> | Reason: using namespace can lead to name clashes, so it should be used
>> | sparingly.
>>
>> These are your own mental problems that make you to misread it as
>> "should be used in every snippet that you ever write as soon as 
>> possible".
>> Stop mirroring your mental issues to others as it is sad.
> 
> "We assume knowledge of the standard library. For example,
> we use plain vector rather than std::vector."

You misunderstand.  That is in a description of the way the examples are 
given, where they do this as a shortcut.  Elsewhere, the guidelines 
regularly use fully qualified names (like "std::vector").

Another note about the examples, a few lines above this quotation, says 
explicitly "Examples are not intended to be production quality".

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