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Re: comp.lang.c blocked on Google Groups Switch to free (Thunderbird and eternal-september)

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First post2021-07-05 08:31 -0500
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  Re: comp.lang.c blocked on Google Groups Switch to free (Thunderbird and eternal-september) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2021-07-05 08:31 -0500
    Re: comp.lang.c blocked on Google Groups James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2021-07-05 16:26 +0100
      Re: comp.lang.c blocked on Google Groups Sam <sam@email-scan.com> - 2021-07-05 12:52 -0400
      Re: comp.lang.c blocked on Google Groups "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-07-05 12:55 -0700
    Re: comp.lang.c blocked on Google Groups Switch to free (Thunderbird and eternal-september) "Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach@gmail.com> - 2021-07-05 18:39 +0200
      Re: comp.lang.c blocked on Google Groups Switch to free (Thunderbird and eternal-september) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2021-07-05 11:50 -0500
      Re: comp.lang.c blocked on Google Groups https://www.usenetarchives.com/ olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2021-07-05 11:56 -0500
      Re: comp.lang.c blocked on Google Groups Switch to free (Thunderbird and eternal-september) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2021-07-05 14:13 -0700
        Re: comp.lang.c blocked on Google Groups Switch to free (Thunderbird and eternal-september) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-07-05 15:32 -0700
          Re: comp.lang.c blocked on Google Groups Switch to free (Thunderbird and eternal-september) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-07-05 15:34 -0700
        Re: comp.lang.c blocked on Google Groups Switch to free (Thunderbird and eternal-september) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2021-07-06 08:22 +0200
          Re: comp.lang.c blocked on Google Groups Switch to free (Thunderbird and eternal-september) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2021-07-06 15:11 -0400
            Re: comp.lang.c blocked on Google Groups Switch to free (Thunderbird and eternal-september) Real Troll <real.troll@trolls.com> - 2021-07-06 19:56 +0000
              Re: comp.lang.c blocked on Google Groups Switch to free (Thunderbird and eternal-september) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2021-07-13 04:37 +0000
                Re: comp.lang.c blocked on Google Groups Switch to free (Thunderbird and eternal-september) Real Troll <real.troll@trolls.com> - 2021-07-13 16:45 +0000
                  Re: comp.lang.c blocked on Google Groups Switch to free (Thunderbird and eternal-september) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-07-13 17:44 +0000
                  Re: comp.lang.c blocked on Google Groups Switch to free (Thunderbird MrSpud_0wmge0me@1luxp5mj4a5obrr0ws.net - 2021-07-14 07:17 +0000
                    Re: comp.lang.c blocked on Google Groups Switch to free (Thunderbird scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-07-14 15:07 +0000
                      Re: comp.lang.c blocked on Google Groups Switch to free (Thunderbird MrSpud_6q@rm5.biz - 2021-07-14 16:03 +0000
                        Wheel re-invention (Was: comp.lang.c blocked on Google Groups Switch to free (Thunderbird) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2021-07-14 19:08 +0000
                          Re: Wheel re-invention (Was: comp.lang.c blocked on Google Groups Switch to free (Thunderbird) Manfred <noname@add.invalid> - 2021-07-14 21:11 +0200
                          Re: Wheel re-invention (Was: comp.lang.c blocked on Google Groups Switch to free (Thunderbird) Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2021-07-14 20:02 +0000
                            Re: Wheel re-invention (Was: comp.lang.c blocked on Google Groups MrSpud_0zkkxn6jj@uncf5cotva75ujdt.gov - 2021-07-15 08:27 +0000
                              Re: Wheel re-invention (Was: comp.lang.c blocked on Google Groups scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-07-15 14:20 +0000
                                Re: Wheel re-invention (Was: comp.lang.c blocked on Google Groups MrSpud_6wa4@1h0c.net - 2021-07-15 14:34 +0000
                              Re: Wheel re-invention (Was: comp.lang.c blocked on Google Groups Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2021-07-15 14:59 +0000
                                Re: Wheel re-invention (Was: comp.lang.c blocked on Google Groups MrSpud_8nnwe@ko9uz7rn4n552n6rutmfe.eu - 2021-07-16 09:33 +0000
                                  Re: Wheel re-invention (Was: comp.lang.c blocked on Google Groups Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2021-07-16 15:33 +0000
                                    Re: Wheel re-invention (Was: comp.lang.c blocked on Google Groups MrSpud_Ccq3_3_r@atc_rakxp6.info - 2021-07-17 15:04 +0000
                                      Re: Wheel re-invention (Was: comp.lang.c blocked on Google Groups Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2021-07-17 16:30 +0000
                                        Re: Wheel re-invention (Was: comp.lang.c blocked on Google Groups MrSpud_2fxg@cligh74ct.info - 2021-07-19 07:50 +0000
                                          Re: Wheel re-invention (Was: comp.lang.c blocked on Google Groups "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-07-19 00:53 -0700
                                            Re: Wheel re-invention (Was: comp.lang.c blocked on Google Groups MrSpud_X19y3su@nl5uzoqa76.info - 2021-07-19 08:16 +0000
                                          Re: Wheel re-invention (Was: comp.lang.c blocked on Google Groups Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2021-07-19 15:20 +0000
                                            Re: Wheel re-invention (Was: comp.lang.c blocked on Google Groups MrSpud_K_o53g2z@wl4yrs_t67fb214q.gov - 2021-07-19 15:31 +0000
                                      Re: Wheel re-invention (Was: comp.lang.c blocked on Google Groups Manfred <invalid@add.invalid> - 2021-07-18 00:29 +0200
                          Re: Wheel re-invention (Was: comp.lang.c blocked on Google Groups Switch to free (Thunderbird) Kaz Kylheku <563-365-8930@kylheku.com> - 2021-07-14 20:11 +0000
                            Re: Wheel re-invention (Was: comp.lang.c blocked on Google Groups Switch to free (Thunderbird) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2021-07-14 21:03 +0000
                              Re: Wheel re-invention (Was: comp.lang.c blocked on Google Groups Switch to free (Thunderbird) Christian Gollwitzer <auriocus@gmx.de> - 2021-07-16 12:55 +0200
                          Re: Wheel re-invention (Was: comp.lang.c blocked on Google Groups Switch to free (Thunderbird) Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2021-07-14 20:32 +0000
                          Re: Wheel re-invention (Was: comp.lang.c blocked on Google Groups Switch to free (Thunderbird) MrSpud_Cyt@em8kceu_4l_721dw4ed0wc.biz - 2021-07-15 08:24 +0000
                    Re: comp.lang.c blocked on Google Groups Switch to free (Thunderbird Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> - 2021-07-16 19:59 +0300
                    Re: comp.lang.c blocked on Google Groups Switch to free (Thunderbird steve <steve@loft.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> - 2021-07-17 22:11 -0400
    Re: comp.lang.c blocked on Google Groups Switch to free (Thunderbird and eternal-september) Real Troll <real.troll@trolls.com> - 2021-07-05 17:00 +0000
      Re: comp.lang.c blocked on Google Groups Switch to free (Thunderbird and eternal-september) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2021-07-05 12:15 -0500

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#80713 — Re: Wheel re-invention (Was: comp.lang.c blocked on Google Groups Switch to free (Thunderbird)

FromMrSpud_Cyt@em8kceu_4l_721dw4ed0wc.biz
Date2021-07-15 08:24 +0000
SubjectRe: Wheel re-invention (Was: comp.lang.c blocked on Google Groups Switch to free (Thunderbird)
Message-ID<scorbc$14p$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#80705
On Wed, 14 Jul 2021 19:08:22 -0000 (UTC)
gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) wrote:
>In article <scn1sn$1bjk$1@gioia.aioe.org>,  <MrSpud_6q@rm5.biz> wrote:
>>On Wed, 14 Jul 2021 15:07:16 GMT
>>scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) wrote:
>>>MrSpud_0wmge0me@1luxp5mj4a5obrr0ws.net writes:
>>>>On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 16:45:00 +0000
>>>
>>>>Given how many apparent geniuses subscribe to comp.lang.c++ I'm amazed none
>>>>of them have written their own newsreader. NNTP is quite a simple protocol
>>>>after all. I did and I'm using it now. Ok, its command line, not GUI but it
>>>>does the job and I can make it do whatever I want.
>>>>
>>>
>>>What makes you think we haven't?
>>
>>Maybe some people have, but I get the impression most haven't.
>>
>
>There's no need to.  Really, talk about wheel re-invention.  Hey, here's an
>idea, why not write a new OS?  Who needs Linux?  Who need z/OS?  (etc)

The irony of mentioning Linux there. But you probably won't get it :)

>trn (and similar, such as "tin") does everything you need, so why not use

It doesn't do everything I need. Given writing software to get and post
articles on usenet isn't exactly arduous (providing you understand networking)
and that it was a fun project to do , why shouldn't I write my own?

>it?  You'd spend a lot of time, just to get up to the level of
>functionality of trn.  Why go through the hassle?

It wasn't hassle and I like being able to use unix tools to parse the
downloaded articles.

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#80721 — Re: comp.lang.c blocked on Google Groups Switch to free (Thunderbird

FromAnton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com>
Date2021-07-16 19:59 +0300
SubjectRe: comp.lang.c blocked on Google Groups Switch to free (Thunderbird
Message-ID<20210716195959.3495263b7716a3ad853fe48b@g{oogle}mail.com>
In reply to#80702
MrSpud:

> Given    how   many   apparent   geniuses   subscribe   to
> comp.lang.c++ I'm amazed none of them have  written  their
> own newsreader. NNTP is quite a simple protocol after all.
> I did and I'm using it now. Ok, its command line, not  GUI
> but it does the job and I can make it do whatever I want.

Regarding the reinvention of the wheel, I see nothing bad in
it as it helps you understand the wheel  better  than  *any-
body*  who  have never (re)invented one, and perhaps even to
improve upon the original. Since  there  are  so  many  good
newsreaders for the PC and almost none for mobile devices, I
wish I you wrote a GNKSA-compliant  newsreader  for  Android
with  mobile-device  specifics such as soft-reflowing of the
text to screen width while keeping it hard-wrapped at  72-80
characters internally and in the posted article.

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#80725 — Re: comp.lang.c blocked on Google Groups Switch to free (Thunderbird

Fromsteve <steve@loft.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me>
Date2021-07-17 22:11 -0400
SubjectRe: comp.lang.c blocked on Google Groups Switch to free (Thunderbird
Message-ID<84v9582wx2.fsf@loft.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me>
In reply to#80702
MrSpud_0wmge0me@1luxp5mj4a5obrr0ws.net writes:

> On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 16:45:00 +0000
> Real Troll <real.troll@trolls.com> wrote:


[ ... this is a shameless plug  ... ]

I have been using giganews (http://www.giganews.com) for over 10 years
and have had no problems. Sometimes you need to pay for quality service.
I wouldn't be surprised if google is spamming usenet groups so they can
snag the domain servers...

Just paranoid steve.

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#80672

FromReal Troll <real.troll@trolls.com>
Date2021-07-05 17:00 +0000
Message-ID<sbve5m$18lo$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#80666
On 05/07/2021 14:31, olcott wrote:
>
>
> Switch to free (Thunderbird and eternal-september)
>
> Free newsgroup host
> https://www.eternal-september.org/


If you don't want to give your personal details to that chap running 
that crap then you can use aioe:

<news://news.aioe.org/comp.lang.c>

<news://news.aioe.org/comp.lang.c++>

<http://news.aioe.org/>

You don't need to give any valid email either! The Italian guy believes 
in "Free Speech" and person's anonymity!

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#80673

Fromolcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com>
Date2021-07-05 12:15 -0500
Message-ID<bcudnRKBPP-Io379nZ2dnUU7-aGdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#80672
On 7/5/2021 12:00 PM, Real Troll wrote:
> On 05/07/2021 14:31, olcott wrote:
>>
>>
>> Switch to free (Thunderbird and eternal-september)
>>
>> Free newsgroup host
>> https://www.eternal-september.org/
> 
> 
> If you don't want to give your personal details to that chap running
> that crap then you can use aioe:
> 
> <news://news.aioe.org/comp.lang.c>
> 
> <news://news.aioe.org/comp.lang.c++>
> 
> <http://news.aioe.org/>
> 
> You don't need to give any valid email either! The Italian guy believes
> in "Free Speech" and person's anonymity!
> 
> 

I provided an email address that I never use.

-- 
Copyright 2021 Pete Olcott

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre 
minds." Einstein

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