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Niuce C++14-feature

Started byBonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com>
First post2021-05-16 18:10 +0200
Last post2021-05-18 15:14 -0700
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  Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-16 18:10 +0200
    Re: Niuce C++14-feature Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2021-05-16 10:54 -0700
      Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-16 20:01 +0200
        Re: Niuce C++14-feature Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2021-05-16 11:29 -0700
          Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-17 08:20 +0200
            Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_f4zl13qm@8lfoe01ih4ebku.com - 2021-05-17 09:26 +0000
              Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-17 12:52 +0200
                Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_yMgsa7x5@3ifr32ivepk32ia.org - 2021-05-17 11:29 +0000
                  Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-17 13:42 +0200
                    Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_zSl@bw3y07so7dr3go2x.tv - 2021-05-17 13:31 +0000
            Re: Niuce C++14-feature Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2021-05-17 19:53 -0700
              Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-18 05:39 +0200
                Re: Niuce C++14-feature Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2021-05-17 22:33 -0700
    Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_sey@tad.gov.uk - 2021-05-17 07:42 +0000
      Re: Niuce C++14-feature Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2021-05-17 10:58 +0000
        Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_vj8xvznaud@d16tgqd.co.uk - 2021-05-17 11:32 +0000
          Re: Niuce C++14-feature Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2021-05-17 12:03 +0000
            Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_gT9q@x057vr3tuoe9s_ht3c.net - 2021-05-17 13:18 +0000
              Re: Niuce C++14-feature Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2021-05-17 14:02 +0000
                Re: Niuce C++14-feature Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2021-05-17 16:36 +0000
                Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_rtfm7b8w@g403t8gw2b59awtit.tv - 2021-05-17 14:54 +0000
        Re: Niuce C++14-feature Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2021-05-17 10:37 -0700
          Re: Niuce C++14-feature Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2021-05-18 06:47 +0000
            Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_w2uom3_k07@47j.ac.uk - 2021-05-18 07:30 +0000
              Re: Niuce C++14-feature Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2021-05-18 10:31 +0000
                Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_axe6hb@rq6ypc_knzvwr9.ac.uk - 2021-05-18 15:11 +0000
                Re: Niuce C++14-feature Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2021-05-18 16:57 -0700
                  Re: Niuce C++14-feature Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2021-05-19 04:53 +0000
            Re: Niuce C++14-feature Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2021-05-18 13:08 +0100
            Re: Niuce C++14-feature Manfred <noname@add.invalid> - 2021-05-18 17:10 +0200
            Re: Niuce C++14-feature James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2021-05-18 11:56 -0400
            Re: Niuce C++14-feature Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2021-05-18 16:56 -0700
              Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-18 22:05 -0700
                Re: Niuce C++14-feature Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2021-05-19 12:01 +0000
                  Re: Niuce C++14-feature Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2021-05-24 10:54 +0000
                    Re: Niuce C++14-feature James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2021-05-24 14:51 -0400
              Re: Niuce C++14-feature Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2021-05-19 05:02 +0000
                Re: Niuce C++14-feature James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2021-05-19 10:07 -0400
                Re: Niuce C++14-feature Manfred <noname@add.invalid> - 2021-05-19 15:16 +0200
              Re: Niuce C++14-feature Spud@nowheresville.org - 2021-05-19 07:19 +0000
                Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-19 00:53 -0700
                  Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_pl1c1bg7i@7sxv4z8mvmyz_.ac.uk - 2021-05-19 08:28 +0000
                    Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-19 01:34 -0700
                      Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_6efnqt73nm@nyyte.com - 2021-05-19 08:44 +0000
                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-19 01:50 -0700
                          Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_54rouunX@x37ixhgx27ymvhwc5.net - 2021-05-19 09:31 +0000
                            Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-19 13:39 -0700
                              Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-19 13:46 -0700
                              Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_nkfcgvl@7o616.biz - 2021-05-20 08:23 +0000
                                Re: Niuce C++14-feature Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2021-05-20 12:38 +0300
                                  Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_5Xl@m9q7d5ux5tl8o5.co.uk - 2021-05-20 14:38 +0000
                                    Re: Niuce C++14-feature Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc> - 2021-05-20 17:43 +0000
                                      Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_dg01t9p2@m0m4iuefk1x.edu - 2021-05-21 09:16 +0000
                                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-21 13:38 +0200
                                          Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_L1peqs_@c81ltrsr_gfoo1.co.uk - 2021-05-21 13:39 +0000
                                            Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-21 15:46 +0200
                                              Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_km@gfepxabk0g_ytn7ta.net - 2021-05-21 14:48 +0000
                                                Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-21 17:03 +0200
                                            Re: Niuce C++14-feature scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-05-21 14:15 +0000
                                              Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_6f@fypmp_.biz - 2021-05-21 14:57 +0000
                                                Re: Niuce C++14-feature scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-05-21 15:05 +0000
                                              Re: Niuce C++14-feature "daniel...@gmail.com" <danielaparker@gmail.com> - 2021-05-21 09:42 -0700
                                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc> - 2021-05-21 14:44 +0100
                                          Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_4ptu0Yl4x9@2q77bsgmv.edu - 2021-05-21 14:47 +0000
                                    Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-21 05:31 +0200
                                      Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_va6psV1d@w5lywejmkchyss0h4d.gov - 2021-05-21 09:24 +0000
                                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-21 13:33 +0200
                                          Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_md3@zi2k.com - 2021-05-21 13:32 +0000
                                            Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-21 15:43 +0200
                                              Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_zq3a8xxm@t9c1d7aq5dby4al.gov.uk - 2021-05-21 14:44 +0000
                                                Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-21 17:07 +0200
                                                  Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_hjgci2iT0@qtinm1mgdu.info - 2021-05-21 16:12 +0000
                                                    Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-21 18:18 +0200
                                                      Re: Niuce C++14-feature scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-05-21 16:25 +0000
                                                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-21 18:36 +0200
                                                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2021-05-22 16:18 +0200
                                                          Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-22 16:25 +0200
                                                            Re: Niuce C++14-feature Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2021-05-22 08:44 -0700
                                                              Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-22 17:49 +0200
                                                            Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 05:50 +0200
                                                              Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 21:32 -0700
                                                                Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 06:40 +0200
                                                                  Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 22:07 -0700
                                                                    Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 22:08 -0700
                                                                      Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 07:46 +0200
                                                                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 23:12 -0700
                                                                          Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 08:19 +0200
                                                                            Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 23:20 -0700
                                                                              Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 08:22 +0200
                                                                                Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 23:27 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 08:30 +0200
                                                                                    Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 23:32 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 08:35 +0200
                                                                                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 23:38 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 23:41 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 08:44 +0200
                                                                                            Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 23:49 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 08:50 +0200
                                                                                                Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 23:52 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 08:54 +0200
                                                                                                    Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 23:56 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 08:59 +0200
                                                                                                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 00:03 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 09:04 +0200
                                                                                                            Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 00:09 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 09:11 +0200
                                                                                    Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 23:34 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 08:36 +0200
                                                                                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 23:38 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 08:39 +0200
                                                                                            Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 23:43 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 08:46 +0200
                                                                                                Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 23:55 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 09:00 +0200
                                                                                                    Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 00:02 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 09:05 +0200
                                                                                                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 00:07 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 00:08 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 09:10 +0200
                                                                                Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 08:32 +0200
                                                                                  Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 23:33 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 08:34 +0200
                                                                                      Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 23:37 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 08:40 +0200
                                                                                          Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 23:53 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 08:55 +0200
                                                                                              Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 23:58 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 09:01 +0200
                                                                                                  Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 00:04 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 09:07 +0200
                                                                                                      Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 00:10 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 00:01 -0700
                                                                                Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 23:30 -0700
                                                            Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_801o@21xmy7.gov.uk - 2021-05-24 08:31 +0000
                                                              Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_8_g@ef863gl0.eu - 2021-05-24 08:34 +0000
                                                              Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 11:49 +0200
                                                                Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_9v@0v6uq5zonj66dteaq9.ac.uk - 2021-05-24 10:15 +0000
                                                                  Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 12:44 +0200
                                                                    Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 13:33 -0700
                                                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_cjz9@ngfllgqd.edu - 2021-05-25 09:02 +0000
                                                          Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 12:54 +0200
                                                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_43zpj5@zrdy.biz - 2021-05-25 09:02 +0000
                                                          Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 12:53 +0200
                                                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_m0gtwlu6_g@j_cyo9l9.edu - 2021-05-25 09:05 +0000
                                                          Re: Niuce C++14-feature Manfred <noname@add.invalid> - 2021-05-25 16:22 +0200
                                                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_wBhaki@w1dhf2q0pnagn57.eu - 2021-05-24 08:26 +0000
                                                          Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 11:51 +0200
                                                            Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_rfg_f9lmv@xechfnrqs23y.com - 2021-05-24 10:17 +0000
                                                              Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 12:45 +0200
                                                                Re: Niuce C++14-feature David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2021-05-24 13:42 +0200
                                                                  Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 13:54 +0200
                                                                    Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 14:19 +0200
                                                                      Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 15:02 +0200
                                                                      Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_1shmhc5pEg@qedprf.biz - 2021-05-24 13:57 +0000
                                                                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 18:15 +0200
                                                                    Re: Niuce C++14-feature David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2021-05-24 15:21 +0200
                                                                      Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 15:37 +0200
                                                                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_61Z@avwe8ulg.co.uk - 2021-05-24 13:49 +0000
                                                                          Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 18:14 +0200
                                                                      Re: Niuce C++14-feature Manfred <noname@add.invalid> - 2021-05-24 16:58 +0200
                                                                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2021-05-24 18:51 +0200
                                                      Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_o_4Ge4wpt@2iwg_s7sq47equu9a.edu - 2021-05-24 08:25 +0000
                                                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 11:52 +0200
                                                    Re: Niuce C++14-feature Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc> - 2021-05-21 17:19 +0100
                                                      Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_3l@rsdtj2x7.gov - 2021-05-24 08:22 +0000
                                  Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_f4@x4dcxggdi.eu - 2021-05-20 13:42 +0000
                                    Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-20 16:20 +0200
                                  Re: Niuce C++14-feature Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@gmail.com> - 2021-05-20 18:02 +0000
                                    Re: Niuce C++14-feature scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-05-20 19:23 +0000
                                      Re: Niuce C++14-feature Chris Vine <chris@cvine--nospam--.freeserve.co.uk> - 2021-05-21 00:07 +0100
                                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_db0ucj9V@o6t54wlnnja_.co.uk - 2021-05-21 09:24 +0000
                                      Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_a102e@wnyqsthof.net - 2021-05-21 09:22 +0000
                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-19 01:53 -0700
                          Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-19 01:54 -0700
                  Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-19 10:30 +0200
                    Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-19 01:35 -0700
                      Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-19 01:36 -0700
                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-19 01:37 -0700
                      Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-19 12:57 +0200
                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-19 13:33 -0700
                Re: Niuce C++14-feature James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2021-05-19 10:20 -0400
                  Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-19 18:13 +0200
                Re: Niuce C++14-feature Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2021-05-19 10:09 -0700
      Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-17 13:28 +0200
        Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_97@bxos5xe28b1i1n7kh.ac.uk - 2021-05-17 11:34 +0000
          Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-17 13:41 +0200
            Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_b89m0or3@x1_pxvs4h8sxxi.gov.uk - 2021-05-17 13:29 +0000
              Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_imhoou@kq9.ac.uk - 2021-05-17 15:53 +0000
                Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_qg11H@ihwz2zmflqtcalb.gov.uk - 2021-05-17 16:06 +0000
                  Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-17 18:21 +0200
                    Re: Niuce C++14-feature Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2021-05-17 16:38 +0000
                Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-17 17:58 +0200
              Re: Niuce C++14-feature Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2021-05-17 14:03 +0000
                Re: Niuce C++14-feature Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2021-05-17 16:37 +0000
                  Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_7kof@5x9.edu - 2021-05-18 07:27 +0000
                Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_cOJ9@yr_8g_4nz.com - 2021-05-17 14:55 +0000
              Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-17 16:06 +0200
                Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_tt7xetn_st@d3zd4ilmme.gov - 2021-05-17 14:56 +0000
                  Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-17 17:20 +0200
                  Re: Niuce C++14-feature Manfred <noname@add.invalid> - 2021-05-18 17:20 +0200
                    Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_h2j5v@jq7cn18h8lm.com - 2021-05-18 15:35 +0000
                      Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-18 17:57 +0200
                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_0by_disXi@2hd58e950gxh.eu - 2021-05-19 07:22 +0000
                          Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-19 09:41 +0200
                            Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_ox7@4ieqo8ddusd3k1c8k.com - 2021-05-19 08:22 +0000
                              Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-19 10:28 +0200
                                Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_4t1542s@nz48t.gov - 2021-05-19 08:40 +0000
                                  Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-19 12:54 +0200
                                    Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_2ur@t65zb.com - 2021-05-19 11:08 +0000
                                      Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-19 13:11 +0200
                                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_a9r7@vdgtzl3x.gov.uk - 2021-05-19 11:19 +0000
                                          Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-19 13:33 +0200
                                            Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_of0j0vqHff@bap.com - 2021-05-19 13:29 +0000
                                              Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-19 16:17 +0200
                                                Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_83b6en@o2cr9.ac.uk - 2021-05-19 14:57 +0000
                                                  Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-19 17:49 +0200
                                                    Re: Niuce C++14-feature scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-05-19 17:41 +0000
                                                      Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-19 19:55 +0200
                                                      Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-19 14:02 -0700
                                                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-05-19 21:06 +0000
                                                          Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-19 14:12 -0700
                                                            Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-19 14:13 -0700
                                                      Re: Niuce C++14-feature Manfred <noname@add.invalid> - 2021-05-20 12:16 +0200
                                                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-20 12:31 +0200
                                                          Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-20 12:33 +0200
                                                            Re: Niuce C++14-feature Manfred <noname@add.invalid> - 2021-05-20 18:37 +0200
                                                            Re: Niuce C++14-feature James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2021-05-20 13:10 -0400
                                                              Re: Niuce C++14-feature scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-05-20 17:56 +0000
                                                              Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-20 20:26 +0200
                                                                Re: Niuce C++14-feature "james...@alumni.caltech.edu" <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2021-05-20 19:50 -0700
                                                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-05-20 14:35 +0000
                                            Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-19 13:54 -0700
                                              Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-19 13:58 -0700
                      Re: Niuce C++14-feature David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2021-05-19 11:16 +0200
                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_V1@aikd06tg1ez2i6hqi9.com - 2021-05-19 09:29 +0000
                          Re: Niuce C++14-feature Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2021-05-19 13:36 +0300
                            Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-19 12:56 +0200
                            Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_w5c@g2nz1m_2f4r2g8wqvgfd.co.uk - 2021-05-19 11:07 +0000
                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2021-05-19 10:34 -0400
                          Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_g1@mpi.com - 2021-05-19 14:55 +0000
                            Re: Niuce C++14-feature Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc> - 2021-05-19 16:15 +0000
                              Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_uc82glu@4o0o4n889yatl8.ac.uk - 2021-05-20 08:19 +0000
                                Re: Niuce C++14-feature Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc> - 2021-05-20 17:46 +0000
                                  Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_mm9v3kgmmm@7_o9.co.uk - 2021-05-21 09:19 +0000
                    Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-18 17:56 +0200
                      Re: Niuce C++14-feature Manfred <noname@add.invalid> - 2021-05-18 20:03 +0200
                      Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_fDx9@a3i3cdf7_.info - 2021-05-19 07:27 +0000
                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-19 09:41 +0200
    Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-18 15:14 -0700

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#79649

From"Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com>
Date2021-05-19 14:12 -0700
Message-ID<s83uuv$1gmf$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#79648
On 5/19/2021 2:06 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> writes:
>> On 5/19/2021 10:41 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>> Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>> I imagine the linux mailing lists were public. The sun ones would have
>>>>> been probably have been restricted to customers. The Sun compiler was paid
>>>>> for back then.
>>>>
>>>> Please proved the paid mailing-lists ...
>> [...]
>>>>> This is you I presume?
>>>>> https://stackoverflow.com/users/6469690/bonita-montero
>>>>
>>>> That'S me.
>>>
>>> You have slipped a few times and posted under your real
>>> name Christopher aus Deutschland.
>>>
>>
>> Really? Where? ;^/
> 
> Either here, or c.l.c.   It was a while back, but within
> the last year iirc.
> 

Wow. I might just do some digging when I get some free time to kill. I 
am working with JavaScript right now for my new site:

http://fractallife247.com/test/vfield

http://fractallife247.com/test

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#79650

From"Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com>
Date2021-05-19 14:13 -0700
Message-ID<s83v1q$1gmf$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#79649
On 5/19/2021 2:12 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> On 5/19/2021 2:06 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>> "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> writes:
>>> On 5/19/2021 10:41 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>>> Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>>> I imagine the linux mailing lists were public. The sun ones would 
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> been probably have been restricted to customers. The Sun compiler 
>>>>>> was paid
>>>>>> for back then.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please proved the paid mailing-lists ...
>>> [...]
>>>>>> This is you I presume?
>>>>>> https://stackoverflow.com/users/6469690/bonita-montero
>>>>>
>>>>> That'S me.
>>>>
>>>> You have slipped a few times and posted under your real
>>>> name Christopher aus Deutschland.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Really? Where? ;^/
>>
>> Either here, or c.l.c.   It was a while back, but within
>> the last year iirc.
>>
> 
> Wow. I might just do some digging when I get some free time to kill. I 
> am working with JavaScript right now for my new site:
> 
> http://fractallife247.com/test/vfield
> 
> http://fractallife247.com/test
> 
> 

Btw, off-topic, but can you even run my tests on your end? Try clicking 
around on the canvas and clicking on the buttons.

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#79655

FromManfred <noname@add.invalid>
Date2021-05-20 12:16 +0200
Message-ID<s85cuq$1k0p$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#79640
On 5/19/2021 7:41 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> You have slipped a few times and posted under your real
> name Christopher aus Deutschland.

You know "Christopher aus Deutschland" means Christopher from Germany, 
right?

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#79657

FromBonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com>
Date2021-05-20 12:31 +0200
Message-ID<s85dq8$are$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#79655
>> You have slipped a few times and posted under your real
>> name Christopher aus Deutschland.

> You know "Christopher aus Deutschland" means Christopher from Germany, 
> right?

I'm from Germany but I'm not Christopher.

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#79658

FromBonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com>
Date2021-05-20 12:33 +0200
Message-ID<s85duk$bo6$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#79657
>>> You have slipped a few times and posted under your real
>>> name Christopher aus Deutschland.

>> You know "Christopher aus Deutschland" means Christopher from Germany, 
>> right?

> I'm from Germany but I'm not Christopher.

And there aint any Christophers in Germany as the name is
called Christoph or Christof here.

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#79663

FromManfred <noname@add.invalid>
Date2021-05-20 18:37 +0200
Message-ID<s8638n$rmm$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#79658
On 5/20/2021 12:33 PM, Bonita Montero wrote:
>>>> You have slipped a few times and posted under your real
>>>> name Christopher aus Deutschland.
> 
>>> You know "Christopher aus Deutschland" means Christopher from 
>>> Germany, right?
> 
>> I'm from Germany but I'm not Christopher.
> 
> And there aint any Christophers in Germany as the name is
> called Christoph or Christof here.

Glad to hear, however your real identity is of little interest to me (no 
offense, it's just that I am interested in /what/ gets posted rather 
than /who/ the poster is)
I was only wondering if Scott's assumption that "Christopher aus 
Deutschland" would be a real name was due to some lack of familiarity 
with the German language - apparently it's not, however I'll leave it at 
that.

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#79664

FromJames Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu>
Date2021-05-20 13:10 -0400
Message-ID<s8656o$rjt$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#79658
On 5/20/2021 12:33 PM, Bonita Montero wrote:
> And there aint any Christophers in Germany as the name is
> called Christoph or Christof here.

Interesting - so visitors to Germany named Christopher automatically get
renamed on entry? By the same logic, would I automatically become Jakob
Kuyper if I visited Germany? I did spend a few hours in Germany on my
way to Italy for my honeymoon - but no one informed me that my name had
been changed for the duration of my visit.
And since "there aint any", I presume that there's also some kind of
legal barrier to prevent people from naming their Children using
non-German spellings?

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#79667

Fromscott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
Date2021-05-20 17:56 +0000
Message-ID<6pxpI.617412$%W6.258802@fx44.iad>
In reply to#79664
James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> writes:
>On 5/20/2021 12:33 PM, Bonita Montero wrote:
>> And there aint any Christophers in Germany as the name is
>> called Christoph or Christof here.
>
>Interesting - so visitors to Germany named Christopher automatically get
>renamed on entry? By the same logic, would I automatically become Jakob
>Kuyper if I visited Germany? I did spend a few hours in Germany on my
>way to Italy for my honeymoon - but no one informed me that my name had
>been changed for the duration of my visit.
>And since "there aint any", I presume that there's also some kind of
>legal barrier to prevent people from naming their Children using
>non-German spellings?

Or, I was in a hurry, and didn't recall the exact spelling used
when Bonita/Christoph slipped and posted under his real name  a
few months ago.  A rose by any other name....

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#79669

FromBonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com>
Date2021-05-20 20:26 +0200
Message-ID<s869ka$r21$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#79664
> Interesting - so visitors to Germany named Christopher automatically get
> renamed on entry? ...

You're really stupid !

That's not what I said. I just said that Germans get the name Christoph
or Christof and not Christopher.

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#79672

From"james...@alumni.caltech.edu" <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu>
Date2021-05-20 19:50 -0700
Message-ID<c5bbfd63-5e86-4e6a-8b7c-1ef87bd47fcfn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#79669
On Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 2:26:34 PM UTC-4, Bonita Montero wrote:
> > Interesting - so visitors to Germany named Christopher automatically get
> > renamed on entry? ... 
> 
> You're really stupid ! 
> 
> That's not what I said. I just said that Germans get the name Christoph 
> or Christof and not Christopher.

Yes, it is what you said. Repeating my citation of your precise words that you trimmed from your response, you said: "... there aint any Christophers in Germany...". 

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#79660

Fromscott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
Date2021-05-20 14:35 +0000
Message-ID<zsupI.243637$N_4.52838@fx36.iad>
In reply to#79655
Manfred <noname@add.invalid> writes:
>On 5/19/2021 7:41 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>> You have slipped a few times and posted under your real
>> name Christopher aus Deutschland.
>
>You know "Christopher aus Deutschland" means Christopher from Germany, 
>right?

Ich hab ein bischen deutsch,  hab sich?

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#79645

From"Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com>
Date2021-05-19 13:54 -0700
Message-ID<s83tui$15j9$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#79624
On 5/19/2021 4:33 AM, Bonita Montero wrote:
>>> Such a common bug wouuld be documented and could be found with
>>> Google or whatever if it really existed, Mr. Liar.
> 
>> Why would the bug mailing list for suns C++ compiler from the late 90s be
>> indexed on google?
> 
> Because such contents would be available today.
> My postings of the late 90s are also all available today.

Well, I won a brand new SunFire T2000 from the CoolThreads contest, but 
I cannot find the proof on Google right now. Iirc is on the 
waybackmachine. Here is an old post about the contest:

https://www.webwire.com/ViewPressRel.asp?aId=6542

My project was called vZOOM. Wait a minute, I found it:

https://web.archive.org/web/20070620081114/https://coolthreads.dev.java.net/

Look for vzoom, that's me!

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#79646

From"Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com>
Date2021-05-19 13:58 -0700
Message-ID<s83u4p$15j9$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#79645
On 5/19/2021 1:54 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> On 5/19/2021 4:33 AM, Bonita Montero wrote:
>>>> Such a common bug wouuld be documented and could be found with
>>>> Google or whatever if it really existed, Mr. Liar.
>>
>>> Why would the bug mailing list for suns C++ compiler from the late 
>>> 90s be
>>> indexed on google?
>>
>> Because such contents would be available today.
>> My postings of the late 90s are also all available today.
> 
> Well, I won a brand new SunFire T2000 from the CoolThreads contest, but 
> I cannot find the proof on Google right now. Iirc is on the 
> waybackmachine. Here is an old post about the contest:
> 
> https://www.webwire.com/ViewPressRel.asp?aId=6542
> 
> My project was called vZOOM. Wait a minute, I found it:
> 
> https://web.archive.org/web/20070620081114/https://coolthreads.dev.java.net/ 
> 
> 
> Look for vzoom, that's me!

God, I remember that T2000 server, it sounded like several vacuum 
cleaners were running when I fired it up. ;^)

It was fun to participate in that contest. Wow, bringing up many old 
memories. Working in Solaris.

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#79613

FromDavid Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>
Date2021-05-19 11:16 +0200
Message-ID<s82l1d$ir8$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#79558
On 18/05/2021 17:35, MrSpook_h2j5v@jq7cn18h8lm.com wrote:
> On Tue, 18 May 2021 17:20:13 +0200
> Manfred <noname@add.invalid> wrote:
>> On 5/17/2021 4:56 PM, MrSpook_tt7xetn_st@d3zd4ilmme.gov wrote:
>>> On Mon, 17 May 2021 16:06:48 +0200
>>> Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> - "= 0" nonsense for pure virtuals, t
>>>>
>>>> In most OOP-languages you've to declare pure virtual functions.
>>>
>>> I'm talking about the syntax , not the concept. Wtf is "= 0"? Its an ugly
>>> syntactic hack. They already created the new keyword "virtual" so why didn't
>>> they create another one called "pure"?
>>
>> This was indeed somewhat weird of a choice. I used to have a sense that 
>> it was meant to be somehow expanded to other uses where the '0' would be 
>> replaced with something else. But this never turned out to be the case, 
>> at least in standard C++.
>>
>> I seem to remember that the Borland C++ compiler would allow some 
>> extension like
>>
>> virtual LRESULT OnPaint(...) = WM_PAINT;
>>
>> Which sounds appealing, but in fact it fades away in very old memories - 
>> maybe someone else may recall anything more clear about that, if this 
>> was indeed a thing at all.
> 
> I remember that anything other than zero would crash a number of older versions
> of the solaris compiler back in 00s.
> 

A virtual function is syntactic sugar for a function pointer (in a
table).  The syntax " = 0" for a pure virtual function is then obvious -
it is initialising the function pointer to a null pointer.

The compiler can then generate code to use the virtual function pointer
"vfp_foo" as :

	if (vfp_foo) {
		vfp_foo();
	} else {
		... call terminate ...
	}

If you have initialised the virtual function pointer to a value that is
not 0, and not a valid function, anything might happen - including a
crash.  A compiler with helpful warnings will tell you something is
wrong when you try to initialise it with something other than 0, but
perhaps an early version would assume that no one is silly enough to do
that, and just re-use existing initialisation handling to give the
programmer exactly the nonsense they asked for.

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#79615

FromMrSpook_V1@aikd06tg1ez2i6hqi9.com
Date2021-05-19 09:29 +0000
Message-ID<s82lp5$1vok$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#79613
On Wed, 19 May 2021 11:16:29 +0200
David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:
>On 18/05/2021 17:35, MrSpook_h2j5v@jq7cn18h8lm.com wrote:
>> I remember that anything other than zero would crash a number of older
>versions
>> of the solaris compiler back in 00s.
>> 
>
>A virtual function is syntactic sugar for a function pointer (in a
>table).  The syntax " = 0" for a pure virtual function is then obvious -
>it is initialising the function pointer to a null pointer.
>
>The compiler can then generate code to use the virtual function pointer
>"vfp_foo" as :
>
>	if (vfp_foo) {
>		vfp_foo();
>	} else {
>		... call terminate ...
>	}
>
>If you have initialised the virtual function pointer to a value that is
>not 0, and not a valid function, anything might happen - including a
>crash.  A compiler with helpful warnings will tell you something is
>wrong when you try to initialise it with something other than 0, but
>perhaps an early version would assume that no one is silly enough to do
>that, and just re-use existing initialisation handling to give the
>programmer exactly the nonsense they asked for.

All true, but I'm not talking about a program crash, I'm talking about
an actual compiler crash when it encountered " = 1;".

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#79616

FromPaavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee>
Date2021-05-19 13:36 +0300
Message-ID<s82pn4$k69$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#79615
19.05.2021 12:29 MrSpook_V1@aikd06tg1ez2i6hqi9.com kirjutas:
> 
> All true, but I'm not talking about a program crash, I'm talking about
> an actual compiler crash when it encountered " = 1;".

So there was a buggy compiler a long time ago which crashed on 'virtual 
foo()=1;'. What makes you think it would not have crashed on 
encountering 'virtual pyre foo();' if 'virtual pure foo();' were a 
standardized syntax? A compiler can have bugs everywhere.

For not adding a new keyword like 'pure' in the language there was a 
single reason only: to avoid conflicts with the existing C code which 
might have had used this word. They wanted to keep the number of new 
keywords at absolute minimum. The ease of writing the compilers was 
never a concern (cf 'export').



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#79618

FromBonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com>
Date2021-05-19 12:56 +0200
Message-ID<s82qs6$rcf$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#79616
> So there was a buggy compiler a long time ago which crashed on
> 'virtual foo()=1;'. ...

There has never been such compiler.
MrSpook should prove this - this must be documented,
the web doesn't forget anything.

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#79620

FromMrSpook_w5c@g2nz1m_2f4r2g8wqvgfd.co.uk
Date2021-05-19 11:07 +0000
Message-ID<s82rhl$prv$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#79616
On Wed, 19 May 2021 13:36:18 +0300
Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> wrote:
>19.05.2021 12:29 MrSpook_V1@aikd06tg1ez2i6hqi9.com kirjutas:
>> 
>> All true, but I'm not talking about a program crash, I'm talking about
>> an actual compiler crash when it encountered " = 1;".
>
>So there was a buggy compiler a long time ago which crashed on 'virtual 
>foo()=1;'. What makes you think it would not have crashed on 
>encountering 'virtual pyre foo();' if 'virtual pure foo();' were a 

It may well have done.

>standardized syntax? A compiler can have bugs everywhere.

Well they are one of the most complex pieces of software around so it would
be amazing if they didn't.

>For not adding a new keyword like 'pure' in the language there was a 
>single reason only: to avoid conflicts with the existing C code which 
>might have had used this word. They wanted to keep the number of new 

Plenty of C code probably used virtual, new, delete etc as function or
variable names too even though some combination of punctuation characters
would have done the job too. So why suddenly use "= 0" instead of "pure"?

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#79632

FromJames Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu>
Date2021-05-19 10:34 -0400
Message-ID<s837ks$rif$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#79613
On 5/19/21 5:16 AM, David Brown wrote:
> On 18/05/2021 17:35, MrSpook_h2j5v@jq7cn18h8lm.com wrote:
...
>> I remember that anything other than zero would crash a number of older versions
>> of the solaris compiler back in 00s.
>>
> 
> A virtual function is syntactic sugar for a function pointer (in a
> table).  The syntax " = 0" for a pure virtual function is then obvious -
> it is initialising the function pointer to a null pointer.

The key point, which no one seems to have stated explicitly, is that
using anything other than 0 in this location constitutes a syntax error.
A pure specifier is optional, but the only permitted form for a
pure-specifier is "= 0". It's unambiguously a diagnosable rule, the
violation of which requires a diagnostic message. Any decent compiler
will generate such a diagnostic. It's certainly possible for a compiler
to have a bug in it that would cause it to crash rather than generate
that diagnostic, so the claim that MrSpook must be lying is unjustified.
But I do think it an implausible type of bug.

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#79633

FromMrSpook_g1@mpi.com
Date2021-05-19 14:55 +0000
Message-ID<s838sd$1d7a$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#79632
On Wed, 19 May 2021 10:34:03 -0400
James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote:
>On 5/19/21 5:16 AM, David Brown wrote:
>> On 18/05/2021 17:35, MrSpook_h2j5v@jq7cn18h8lm.com wrote:
>....
>>> I remember that anything other than zero would crash a number of older
>versions
>>> of the solaris compiler back in 00s.
>>>
>> 
>> A virtual function is syntactic sugar for a function pointer (in a
>> table).  The syntax " = 0" for a pure virtual function is then obvious -
>> it is initialising the function pointer to a null pointer.
>
>The key point, which no one seems to have stated explicitly, is that
>using anything other than 0 in this location constitutes a syntax error.
>A pure specifier is optional, but the only permitted form for a
>pure-specifier is "= 0". It's unambiguously a diagnosable rule, the
>violation of which requires a diagnostic message. Any decent compiler
>will generate such a diagnostic. It's certainly possible for a compiler
>to have a bug in it that would cause it to crash rather than generate
>that diagnostic, so the claim that MrSpook must be lying is unjustified.
>But I do think it an implausible type of bug.

Most bugs are fairly implausible but they happen. It was a real bug. Its
possible the compiler has some extension that allowed a non zero value to
be assigned, perhaps a function pointer so anything non zero would be
treated as an address. Thats a guess, I have no idea. Regardless it crashed
quite spectacularly IIRC , not a segfault but an internal stack dump.

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