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| Started by | woodbrian77@gmail.com |
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| First post | 2019-12-13 21:28 -0800 |
| Last post | 2019-12-15 09:49 +0000 |
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Don't be fooled by cpp.sh woodbrian77@gmail.com - 2019-12-13 21:28 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.co.uk - 2019-12-14 09:23 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2019-12-14 17:19 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-14 09:54 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh woodbrian77@gmail.com - 2019-12-14 12:00 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-14 13:51 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-12-14 22:19 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-14 16:13 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2019-12-15 15:35 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-12-14 22:17 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-14 16:03 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2019-12-15 15:41 +1300
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2019-12-14 22:55 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.co.uk - 2019-12-15 09:53 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-12-15 11:18 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.co.uk - 2019-12-15 16:44 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-12-15 20:49 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2019-12-15 15:11 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-12-15 23:28 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-15 15:41 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-12-16 05:18 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-16 10:46 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.co.uk - 2019-12-16 09:57 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-16 10:21 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.co.uk - 2019-12-17 09:37 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2019-12-17 15:13 +0200
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.co.uk - 2019-12-17 14:12 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2019-12-17 19:35 +0200
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.co.uk - 2019-12-18 16:14 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-17 08:32 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.co.uk - 2019-12-18 16:26 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk> - 2019-12-18 19:11 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com> - 2019-12-18 11:23 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-18 11:31 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk> - 2019-12-18 19:56 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.co.uk - 2019-12-19 08:42 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk> - 2019-12-19 20:26 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.co.uk - 2019-12-20 09:25 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-20 04:35 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.co.uk - 2019-12-20 16:28 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-20 10:36 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.co.uk - 2019-12-21 16:33 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-21 09:11 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.co.uk - 2019-12-21 17:22 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-21 10:18 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2019-12-21 21:21 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-21 14:30 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2019-12-22 21:36 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-22 15:05 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.co.uk - 2019-12-22 17:03 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Mr Flibble <flibble@i42.removethisbit.co.uk> - 2019-12-22 17:46 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2019-12-22 18:07 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.co.uk - 2019-12-23 16:23 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Mr Flibble <flibble@i42.removethisbit.co.uk> - 2019-12-23 16:33 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.co.uk - 2019-12-23 16:46 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2019-12-23 18:51 +0200
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.co.uk - 2019-12-23 17:02 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2019-12-23 19:17 +0200
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2019-12-24 09:49 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2019-12-24 02:16 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2019-12-25 00:30 +0200
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2019-12-26 09:46 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2019-12-26 16:38 +0200
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2019-12-26 17:33 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2019-12-26 19:52 +0200
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2019-12-27 17:14 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com> - 2019-12-27 09:41 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2019-12-28 12:05 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Chris Vine <chris@cvine--nospam--.freeserve.co.uk> - 2019-12-28 21:01 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2019-12-29 09:00 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2019-12-29 12:21 +0200
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2019-12-29 18:30 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2019-12-29 21:45 +0200
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2019-12-30 10:10 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2019-12-30 14:03 +0200
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2019-12-30 12:17 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-30 04:39 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2019-12-30 13:01 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2019-12-30 15:17 +0200
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-12-30 14:22 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-30 16:49 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-12-30 17:18 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-30 18:12 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-12-30 18:16 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-30 18:38 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-12-30 19:17 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-30 20:55 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-12-31 03:13 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-31 13:01 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-12-31 13:13 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-31 14:09 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-12-31 14:12 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-31 15:39 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-12-31 15:45 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-12-31 15:22 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-12-31 17:16 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-31 17:51 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-12-31 17:59 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-31 18:21 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-12-31 18:35 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-31 18:51 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-12-31 18:59 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-31 12:23 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2019-12-31 16:14 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2019-12-31 16:52 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2019-12-31 18:58 +0200
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-12-31 18:00 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2019-12-31 19:21 +0200
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-31 18:22 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-12-31 18:46 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2019-12-31 20:30 +0200
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-12-31 19:44 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2020-01-10 08:10 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-01-11 13:03 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2020-01-12 07:50 +1300
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2020-01-11 11:55 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-01-11 23:59 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-01-01 23:04 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2020-01-04 20:04 -0500
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-05 13:36 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-01-06 18:39 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2019-12-31 16:16 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-31 17:01 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2020-01-01 17:34 +0200
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-01-01 23:09 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-12-31 03:29 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2019-12-30 19:37 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Chris Vine <chris@cvine--nospam--.freeserve.co.uk> - 2019-12-31 11:19 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-31 13:14 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2019-12-31 16:06 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-30 05:39 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-30 16:39 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2019-12-31 09:25 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-12-31 12:00 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2019-12-31 16:10 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-12-31 16:42 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2020-01-01 09:07 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2020-01-01 15:48 +0200
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2020-01-02 09:24 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2020-01-02 12:02 +0200
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2020-01-02 10:52 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2020-01-02 13:27 +0200
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2020-01-02 16:45 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2020-01-02 16:55 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2020-01-02 17:24 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-02 18:30 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-01-03 09:40 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-01-02 22:58 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-01-02 22:28 -0500
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-01-02 22:56 -0500
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-01-02 22:20 -0500
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2020-01-03 14:53 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-01-03 17:22 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2020-01-04 12:45 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-01-03 09:01 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-01-03 10:29 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-01-03 21:05 -0500
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2020-01-10 08:46 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-01-10 09:51 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2020-01-10 14:59 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2019-12-31 19:06 +0200
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2019-12-31 14:06 +0200
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-31 13:38 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2019-12-31 16:13 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Mr Flibble <flibble@i42.removethisbit.co.uk> - 2019-12-31 17:06 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2020-01-01 09:09 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-31 18:11 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2020-01-01 09:13 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2020-01-01 09:09 -0600
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2020-01-02 09:25 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2020-01-03 10:09 -0600
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2020-01-04 12:43 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2020-01-04 18:02 -0600
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2020-01-05 10:41 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2020-01-05 12:31 -0600
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-01-05 20:11 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2020-01-05 11:22 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2020-01-05 21:07 -0600
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-01-05 20:40 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2020-01-06 18:08 -0600
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-01-06 23:17 -0500
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-01-07 08:37 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2020-01-10 14:51 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-01-07 08:28 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2020-01-10 14:19 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-01-01 23:15 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2020-01-02 09:33 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-01-02 12:16 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Chris Vine <chris@cvine--nospam--.freeserve.co.uk> - 2019-12-31 18:14 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-12-31 19:16 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Chris Vine <chris@cvine--nospam--.freeserve.co.uk> - 2019-12-31 18:48 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com> - 2019-12-31 12:29 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2020-01-01 09:17 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-30 16:32 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Bo Persson <bo@bo-persson.se> - 2019-12-30 14:57 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2019-12-31 09:23 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2019-12-30 22:16 -0500
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2019-12-30 20:30 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2020-01-10 21:12 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2019-12-30 20:07 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-12-30 13:50 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com> - 2020-01-01 08:11 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2020-01-02 09:28 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2020-01-10 21:26 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Chris Vine <chris@cvine--nospam--.freeserve.co.uk> - 2019-12-29 11:31 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2019-12-29 18:35 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Mr Flibble <flibble@i42.removethisbit.co.uk> - 2019-12-29 18:40 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2019-12-30 10:12 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-12-30 14:10 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com> - 2019-12-29 12:11 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com> - 2019-12-29 22:20 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-30 01:23 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Chris Vine <chris@cvine--nospam--.freeserve.co.uk> - 2019-12-30 15:54 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Mr Flibble <flibble@i42.removethisbit.co.uk> - 2019-12-30 17:07 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Chris Vine <chris@cvine--nospam--.freeserve.co.uk> - 2019-12-30 19:58 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Chris Vine <chris@cvine--nospam--.freeserve.co.uk> - 2019-12-30 23:59 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-12-30 21:23 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com> - 2019-12-28 18:09 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Mr Flibble <flibble@i42.removethisbit.co.uk> - 2019-12-26 18:30 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2019-12-27 17:17 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-27 09:58 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2019-12-28 12:06 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-28 08:39 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2019-12-28 16:57 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Pavel <pauldontspamtolk@removeyourself.dontspam.yahoo> - 2020-01-02 23:18 -0500
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2019-12-26 10:54 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2019-12-26 22:50 +0200
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com> - 2019-12-26 10:38 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh woodbrian77@gmail.com - 2019-12-24 17:52 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-24 23:53 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh woodbrian77@gmail.com - 2019-12-25 08:51 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-25 10:54 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh woodbrian77@gmail.com - 2019-12-21 08:42 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-21 09:25 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-18 11:28 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk> - 2019-12-18 20:00 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2019-12-18 22:12 +0200
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.co.uk - 2019-12-19 08:47 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-12-30 14:03 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com> - 2019-12-18 09:47 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-18 11:49 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com> - 2019-12-18 12:05 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-18 12:19 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk> - 2019-12-16 21:13 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.co.uk - 2019-12-17 09:38 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2019-12-17 09:14 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk> - 2019-12-17 17:50 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-16 09:35 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk> - 2019-12-15 20:48 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.co.uk - 2019-12-16 09:55 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-12-15 11:12 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com> - 2019-12-15 06:53 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.co.uk - 2019-12-15 16:48 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com> - 2019-12-15 09:10 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.co.uk - 2019-12-15 18:33 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2019-12-15 19:29 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2019-12-15 23:38 -0500
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-15 21:23 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com> - 2019-12-15 21:36 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-15 21:43 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-16 09:44 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-12-16 12:10 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-16 16:21 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2019-12-16 10:54 -0600
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2019-12-16 10:47 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-16 11:19 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-16 21:15 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2019-12-16 22:23 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-17 09:31 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2019-12-16 23:23 -0600
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2019-12-16 21:45 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2019-12-16 23:20 -0600
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2019-12-17 21:56 +0000
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Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2019-12-16 19:42 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com> - 2019-12-16 11:56 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-16 21:18 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-12-16 21:03 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-17 00:04 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-12-17 01:06 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-17 14:51 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2019-12-16 07:25 -0500
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Bo Persson <bo@bo-persson.se> - 2019-12-16 14:13 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-16 16:32 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2019-12-16 10:52 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-16 21:24 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-16 10:56 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2019-12-16 20:45 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-16 22:00 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2019-12-17 04:07 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-17 15:00 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2019-12-17 14:44 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-17 15:54 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2019-12-17 15:52 +0000
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2019-12-17 11:51 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-17 22:10 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2019-12-17 22:08 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-18 08:56 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2020-01-10 08:29 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2019-12-17 23:55 -0500
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com> - 2019-12-18 09:36 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2019-12-16 22:29 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2019-12-16 22:40 -0500
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2019-12-16 07:17 -0500
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com> - 2019-12-15 21:24 -0800
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Bo Persson <bo@bo-persson.se> - 2019-12-16 12:13 +0100
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2019-12-16 07:44 -0500
Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com> - 2019-12-16 18:53 -0800
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| From | woodbrian77@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2019-12-13 21:28 -0800 |
| Subject | Don't be fooled by cpp.sh |
| Message-ID | <70391932-ccbc-4bc7-b693-881ab06eb6d3@googlegroups.com> |
Shalom, comp.lang.c++, I was just looking at the website cpp.sh (C++ shell) and the latest standard they have listed (as of December 2019) is 2014 C++. I'm here to tell you that on-line C++ is alive and well. My code generator requires 2017 C++ and has been updated hundreds of times since 2017. Imo the future of C++ is bright, especially with respect to on-line code generation. Please don't be fooled by cpp.sh and others like it. There are some fools imo here. Perhaps one of them has "blessed" us with cpp.sh. Brian Ebenezer Enterprises - Enjoying programming again. https://github.com/Ebenezer-group/onwards
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| From | boltar@nowhere.co.uk |
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| Date | 2019-12-14 09:23 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <qt29lv$1jri$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #70446 |
On Fri, 13 Dec 2019 21:28:01 -0800 (PST) woodbrian77@gmail.com wrote: >Shalom, comp.lang.c++, > >I was just looking at the website cpp.sh (C++ shell) and the >latest standard they have listed (as of December 2019) is >2014 C++. > >I'm here to tell you that on-line C++ is alive and >well. My code generator requires 2017 C++ and has been >updated hundreds of times since 2017. Imo the future >of C++ is bright, especially with respect to on-line code >generation. > >Please don't be fooled by cpp.sh and others like it. There >are some fools imo here. Perhaps one of them has "blessed" >us with cpp.sh. Who the hell cares about online C++ compilers? Anyone who uses C++ will already have a far superior compiler on their own machine so what purpose do they serve other than stroking the egos of the people writing them?
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| From | Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2019-12-14 17:19 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <qt35ir$f1o$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #70448 |
On 14/12/2019 09:23, boltar@nowhere.co.uk wrote: > Who the hell cares about online C++ compilers? Anyone who uses C++ will > already have a far superior compiler on their own machine so what purpose > do they serve other than stroking the egos of the people writing them? I care. Just the other day I was testing some code across different compilers. The online compilers let me try half a dozen different compilers on my code fragment. I only have GCC installed on my machine. Andy
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| From | Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> |
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| Date | 2019-12-14 09:54 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <d526bf37-7986-4538-8b71-6f3f3e5f5b3d@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #70455 |
On Saturday, 14 December 2019 19:19:35 UTC+2, Vir Campestris wrote: > On 14/12/2019 09:23, boltar@nowhere.co.uk wrote: > > Who the hell cares about online C++ compilers? Anyone who uses C++ will > > already have a far superior compiler on their own machine so what purpose > > do they serve other than stroking the egos of the people writing them? > > I care. Just the other day I was testing some code across different > compilers. The online compilers let me try half a dozen different > compilers on my code fragment. I only have GCC installed on my machine. With so complex and quickly evolving language like C++ it is good idea to have couple of different compilers installed plus some static analysis tools as well. When any of such clever tools (written by quite good programmers) become confused about your code then it is almost guaraneed that other person (or even you yourself few months later) will be even more confused about it.
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| From | woodbrian77@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2019-12-14 12:00 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <001589c5-f396-466b-9d9e-65f6c974a16b@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #70457 |
On Saturday, December 14, 2019 at 11:54:21 AM UTC-6, Öö Tiib wrote: > On Saturday, 14 December 2019 19:19:35 UTC+2, Vir Campestris wrote: > > > > I care. Just the other day I was testing some code across different > > compilers. The online compilers let me try half a dozen different > > compilers on my code fragment. I only have GCC installed on my machine. > > With so complex and quickly evolving language like C++ it is good idea > to have couple of different compilers installed plus some static > analysis tools as well. It takes a few minutes to install one, and that's if everything goes well. The network usage from downloading is another factor. > When any of such clever tools (written by quite > good programmers) become confused about your code then it is almost > guaraneed that other person (or even you yourself few months later) > will be even more confused about it. Compilers aren't like human intelligence imo. When someone says compilers are smart I laugh. If they were smart, they would have transformed themselves into services 20 years ago. Have you heard of the biggest ball of twine in Minnesota? Weird Al wrote a song about it: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=weird+al+twine+ball&t=h_&ia=videos&iax=videos&iai=Tcw326PJuDw This is a history of the ball from 2019: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=largest+ball+twine&iax=videos&ia=videos&iai=JTGAJDdFsGw That's not going to transform itself either.
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| From | Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> |
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| Date | 2019-12-14 13:51 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <580e7491-8852-4cbb-a727-a3c39a344d78@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #70460 |
On Saturday, 14 December 2019 22:01:08 UTC+2, woodb...@gmail.com wrote: > On Saturday, December 14, 2019 at 11:54:21 AM UTC-6, Öö Tiib wrote: > > On Saturday, 14 December 2019 19:19:35 UTC+2, Vir Campestris wrote: > > > > > > I care. Just the other day I was testing some code across different > > > compilers. The online compilers let me try half a dozen different > > > compilers on my code fragment. I only have GCC installed on my machine. > > > > With so complex and quickly evolving language like C++ it is good idea > > to have couple of different compilers installed plus some static > > analysis tools as well. > > It takes a few minutes to install one, and that's if everything > goes well. The network usage from downloading is another factor. Installing consumes very little computer resources so we can do everything what we want while it installs. And the price of terabyte of storage is so low that there are next to no reasons to uninstall anything ever nowadays. > > > When any of such clever tools (written by quite > > good programmers) become confused about your code then it is almost > > guaraneed that other person (or even you yourself few months later) > > will be even more confused about it. > > Compilers aren't like human intelligence imo. When someone > says compilers are smart I laugh. If they were smart, they > would have transformed themselves into services 20 years > ago. People who write compiler make it to translate the code as wisely as they would do it themselves. As the compiler writers are usually far smarter than its users ... like you ... that laughter is foolish. Your last sentence is just demagogy boasting online services. > > Have you heard of the biggest ball of twine in Minnesota? > Weird Al wrote a song about it: > https://duckduckgo.com/?q=weird+al+twine+ball&t=h_&ia=videos&iax=videos&iai=Tcw326PJuDw > > This is a history of the ball from 2019: > https://duckduckgo.com/?q=largest+ball+twine&iax=videos&ia=videos&iai=JTGAJDdFsGw > > That's not going to transform itself either. http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/feeling-stupid
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| From | Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> |
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| Date | 2019-12-14 22:19 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <1edJF.6511$O9t.726@fx36.am4> |
| In reply to | #70461 |
On 2019-12-14, Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> wrote: > On Saturday, 14 December 2019 22:01:08 UTC+2, woodb...@gmail.com wrote: >> On Saturday, December 14, 2019 at 11:54:21 AM UTC-6, Öö Tiib wrote: >> > On Saturday, 14 December 2019 19:19:35 UTC+2, Vir Campestris wrote: >> > > >> > > I care. Just the other day I was testing some code across different >> > > compilers. The online compilers let me try half a dozen different >> > > compilers on my code fragment. I only have GCC installed on my machine. >> > >> > With so complex and quickly evolving language like C++ it is good idea >> > to have couple of different compilers installed plus some static >> > analysis tools as well. >> >> It takes a few minutes to install one, and that's if everything >> goes well. The network usage from downloading is another factor. > > Installing consumes very little computer resources so we can do > everything what we want while it installs. And the price of terabyte of > storage is so low that there are next to no reasons to uninstall > anything ever nowadays. I have gcc and clang and when I want icpp. What others are there that are half usable? MS VC but that one is Windows only... > >> >> > When any of such clever tools (written by quite >> > good programmers) become confused about your code then it is almost >> > guaraneed that other person (or even you yourself few months later) >> > will be even more confused about it. >> >> Compilers aren't like human intelligence imo. When someone >> says compilers are smart I laugh. If they were smart, they >> would have transformed themselves into services 20 years >> ago. > > People who write compiler make it to translate the code as wisely > as they would do it themselves. As the compiler writers are usually > far smarter than its users ... like you ... that laughter is > foolish. Your last sentence is just demagogy boasting online > services. Given that compilers are black boxes to some, I agree. > >> >> Have you heard of the biggest ball of twine in Minnesota? >> Weird Al wrote a song about it: >> https://duckduckgo.com/?q=weird+al+twine+ball&t=h_&ia=videos&iax=videos&iai=Tcw326PJuDw >> >> This is a history of the ball from 2019: >> https://duckduckgo.com/?q=largest+ball+twine&iax=videos&ia=videos&iai=JTGAJDdFsGw >> >> That's not going to transform itself either. > > http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/feeling-stupid -- press any key to continue or any other to quit... U ničemu ja ne uživam kao u svom statusu INVALIDA -- Zli Zec Svi smo svedoci - oko 3 godine intenzivne propagande je dovoljno da jedan narod poludi -- Zli Zec Na divljem zapadu i nije bilo tako puno nasilja, upravo zato jer su svi bili naoruzani. -- Mladen Gogala
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| From | Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> |
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| Date | 2019-12-14 16:13 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <773f2fa7-1d25-4cf4-bbc3-3cd61455bc80@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #70463 |
On Sunday, 15 December 2019 00:19:50 UTC+2, Melzzzzz wrote: > On 2019-12-14, Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> wrote: > > Installing consumes very little computer resources so we can do > > everything what we want while it installs. And the price of terabyte of > > storage is so low that there are next to no reasons to uninstall > > anything ever nowadays. > > I have gcc and clang and when I want icpp. What others are there > that are half usable? MS VC but that one is Windows only... I have to use some less common compilers for embedded systems. Also I typically have several versions of same line because the compilers have some breaking changes and differences in defects between versions. Just look at their issue management. ;)
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| From | Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> |
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| Date | 2019-12-15 15:35 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnqvcklc.2ntj.grahn+nntp@frailea.sa.invalid> |
| In reply to | #70463 |
On Sat, 2019-12-14, Melzzzzz wrote: > On 2019-12-14, Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> wrote: >> On Saturday, 14 December 2019 22:01:08 UTC+2, woodb...@gmail.com wrote: >>> On Saturday, December 14, 2019 at 11:54:21 AM UTC-6, Öö Tiib wrote: >>> > On Saturday, 14 December 2019 19:19:35 UTC+2, Vir Campestris wrote: >>> > > >>> > > I care. Just the other day I was testing some code across different >>> > > compilers. The online compilers let me try half a dozen different >>> > > compilers on my code fragment. I only have GCC installed on my machine. >>> > >>> > With so complex and quickly evolving language like C++ it is good idea >>> > to have couple of different compilers installed plus some static >>> > analysis tools as well. >>> >>> It takes a few minutes to install one, and that's if everything >>> goes well. The network usage from downloading is another factor. >> >> Installing consumes very little computer resources so we can do >> everything what we want while it installs. And the price of terabyte of >> storage is so low that there are next to no reasons to uninstall >> anything ever nowadays. > > I have gcc and clang and when I want icpp. What others are there > that are half usable? MS VC but that one is Windows only... For Unix users, I suppose what's most interesting is newer and older versions of those you mentioned. (Although I personally rarely bother with them, and stay away from the bleeding edge in my code, too.) /Jorgen -- // Jorgen Grahn <grahn@ Oo o. . . \X/ snipabacken.se> O o .
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| From | Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> |
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| Date | 2019-12-14 22:17 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <wbdJF.6510$O9t.3420@fx36.am4> |
| In reply to | #70457 |
On 2019-12-14, Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> wrote: > On Saturday, 14 December 2019 19:19:35 UTC+2, Vir Campestris wrote: >> On 14/12/2019 09:23, boltar@nowhere.co.uk wrote: >> > Who the hell cares about online C++ compilers? Anyone who uses C++ will >> > already have a far superior compiler on their own machine so what purpose >> > do they serve other than stroking the egos of the people writing them? >> >> I care. Just the other day I was testing some code across different >> compilers. The online compilers let me try half a dozen different >> compilers on my code fragment. I only have GCC installed on my machine. > > With so complex and quickly evolving language like C++ it is good idea > to have couple of different compilers installed plus some static > analysis tools as well. When any of such clever tools (written by quite > good programmers) become confused about your code then it is almost > guaraneed that other person (or even you yourself few months later) > will be even more confused about it. C++ can be quite clean language, written. > -- press any key to continue or any other to quit... U ničemu ja ne uživam kao u svom statusu INVALIDA -- Zli Zec Svi smo svedoci - oko 3 godine intenzivne propagande je dovoljno da jedan narod poludi -- Zli Zec Na divljem zapadu i nije bilo tako puno nasilja, upravo zato jer su svi bili naoruzani. -- Mladen Gogala
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| From | Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> |
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| Date | 2019-12-14 16:03 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <356f42b0-2919-4e72-a1a2-3813212973f1@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #70462 |
On Sunday, 15 December 2019 00:17:11 UTC+2, Melzzzzz wrote: > On 2019-12-14, Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> wrote: > > On Saturday, 14 December 2019 19:19:35 UTC+2, Vir Campestris wrote: > >> On 14/12/2019 09:23, boltar@nowhere.co.uk wrote: > >> > Who the hell cares about online C++ compilers? Anyone who uses C++ will > >> > already have a far superior compiler on their own machine so what purpose > >> > do they serve other than stroking the egos of the people writing them? > >> > >> I care. Just the other day I was testing some code across different > >> compilers. The online compilers let me try half a dozen different > >> compilers on my code fragment. I only have GCC installed on my machine. > > > > With so complex and quickly evolving language like C++ it is good idea > > to have couple of different compilers installed plus some static > > analysis tools as well. When any of such clever tools (written by quite > > good programmers) become confused about your code then it is almost > > guaraneed that other person (or even you yourself few months later) > > will be even more confused about it. > > C++ can be quite clean language, written. Sure, and with cleanly written code the tools tend to be content as well. But we have to be capable of reading code of others anyway if for nothing else then for constructively explaining why it is bad to use it like that. The C++98 was already huge in that sense. Then C++11 came and changed everything by quadrupling the language with move semantics, lambdas and constexpr. In February C++2020 will quadruple it again. I feel like too old for learning it all once again. :(
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| From | Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-12-15 15:41 +1300 |
| Message-ID | <h5lkqsFctnvU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #70465 |
On 15/12/2019 13:03, Öö Tiib wrote: > On Sunday, 15 December 2019 00:17:11 UTC+2, Melzzzzz wrote: >> >> C++ can be quite clean language, written. > > Sure, and with cleanly written code the tools tend to be content as > well. > But we have to be capable of reading code of others anyway if > for nothing else then for constructively explaining why it is bad > to use it like that. The C++98 was already huge in that sense. > Then C++11 came and changed everything by quadrupling the language > with move semantics, lambdas and constexpr. In February C++2020 will > quadruple it again. I feel like too old for learning it all > once again. :( It helps to keep the dementia away :) I enjoy working with and reviewing code for younger programmers keen to try new stuff I had missed. -- Ian
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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-12-14 22:55 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <qt4ldr$c78$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #70467 |
On 12/14/2019 6:41 PM, Ian Collins wrote: > On 15/12/2019 13:03, Öö Tiib wrote: >> On Sunday, 15 December 2019 00:17:11 UTC+2, Melzzzzz wrote: >>> >>> C++ can be quite clean language, written. >> >> Sure, and with cleanly written code the tools tend to be content as >> well. >> But we have to be capable of reading code of others anyway if >> for nothing else then for constructively explaining why it is bad >> to use it like that. The C++98 was already huge in that sense. >> Then C++11 came and changed everything by quadrupling the language >> with move semantics, lambdas and constexpr. In February C++2020 will >> quadruple it again. I feel like too old for learning it all >> once again. :( > > It helps to keep the dementia away :) > > > I enjoy working with and reviewing code for younger programmers keen to > try new stuff I had missed. > Perfect!
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| From | boltar@nowhere.co.uk |
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| Date | 2019-12-15 09:53 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <qt4vrd$1pf0$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #70465 |
On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 16:03:10 -0800 (PST) =?UTF-8?B?w5bDtiBUaWli?= <ootiib@hot.ee> wrote: >On Sunday, 15 December 2019 00:17:11 UTC+2, Melzzzzz wrote: >> C++ can be quite clean language, written. > >Sure, and with cleanly written code the tools tend to be content as=20 >well. >But we have to be capable of reading code of others anyway if >for nothing else then for constructively explaining why it is bad >to use it like that. The C++98 was already huge in that sense. >Then C++11 came and changed everything by quadrupling the language >with move semantics, lambdas and constexpr. In February C++2020 will >quadruple it again. I feel like too old for learning it all >once again. :( You're not the only one. However no doubt I and many others will have to learn all the extra pointless BS in c++20 simply in order to get our CVs through the door for future job interviews. I doubt I will ever use any of it - I hardly use anything from C++14 and so far nothing from 17 in my own projects. In fact my last 2 projects work and personal were in plain C.
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| From | Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> |
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| Date | 2019-12-15 11:18 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nEoJF.11139$Eh6.5557@fx01.am4> |
| In reply to | #70470 |
On 2019-12-15, boltar@nowhere.co.uk <boltar@nowhere.co.uk> wrote: > On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 16:03:10 -0800 (PST) >=?UTF-8?B?w5bDtiBUaWli?= <ootiib@hot.ee> wrote: >>On Sunday, 15 December 2019 00:17:11 UTC+2, Melzzzzz wrote: >>> C++ can be quite clean language, written. >> >>Sure, and with cleanly written code the tools tend to be content as=20 >>well. >>But we have to be capable of reading code of others anyway if >>for nothing else then for constructively explaining why it is bad >>to use it like that. The C++98 was already huge in that sense. >>Then C++11 came and changed everything by quadrupling the language >>with move semantics, lambdas and constexpr. In February C++2020 will >>quadruple it again. I feel like too old for learning it all >>once again. :( > > You're not the only one. However no doubt I and many others will have to learn > all the extra pointless BS in c++20 simply in order to get our CVs through the > door for future job interviews. I doubt I will ever use any of it - I hardly > use anything from C++14 and so far nothing from 17 in my own projects. In > fact my last 2 projects work and personal were in plain C. I use C only when necessary. When I have to. syntactic sugar of C++ is what makes me use it. And I hate macros. > -- press any key to continue or any other to quit... U ničemu ja ne uživam kao u svom statusu INVALIDA -- Zli Zec Svi smo svedoci - oko 3 godine intenzivne propagande je dovoljno da jedan narod poludi -- Zli Zec Na divljem zapadu i nije bilo tako puno nasilja, upravo zato jer su svi bili naoruzani. -- Mladen Gogala
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| From | boltar@nowhere.co.uk |
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| Date | 2019-12-15 16:44 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <qt5nu0$18bv$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #70472 |
On Sun, 15 Dec 2019 11:18:43 GMT Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> wrote: >On 2019-12-15, boltar@nowhere.co.uk <boltar@nowhere.co.uk> wrote: >> On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 16:03:10 -0800 (PST) >>=?UTF-8?B?w5bDtiBUaWli?= <ootiib@hot.ee> wrote: >>>On Sunday, 15 December 2019 00:17:11 UTC+2, Melzzzzz wrote: >>>> C++ can be quite clean language, written. >>> >>>Sure, and with cleanly written code the tools tend to be content as=20 >>>well. >>>But we have to be capable of reading code of others anyway if >>>for nothing else then for constructively explaining why it is bad >>>to use it like that. The C++98 was already huge in that sense. >>>Then C++11 came and changed everything by quadrupling the language >>>with move semantics, lambdas and constexpr. In February C++2020 will >>>quadruple it again. I feel like too old for learning it all >>>once again. :( >> >> You're not the only one. However no doubt I and many others will have to >learn >> all the extra pointless BS in c++20 simply in order to get our CVs through >the >> door for future job interviews. I doubt I will ever use any of it - I hardly >> use anything from C++14 and so far nothing from 17 in my own projects. In >> fact my last 2 projects work and personal were in plain C. > >I use C only when necessary. When I have to. syntactic sugar of C++ is >what makes me use it. And I hate macros. If you do cross platform systems or network programming you have no choice but to use macros even in C++17.
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| From | Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> |
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| Date | 2019-12-15 20:49 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <I%wJF.62113$kBJ1.61647@fx12.am4> |
| In reply to | #70478 |
On 2019-12-15, boltar@nowhere.co.uk <boltar@nowhere.co.uk> wrote: > On Sun, 15 Dec 2019 11:18:43 GMT > Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> wrote: >>On 2019-12-15, boltar@nowhere.co.uk <boltar@nowhere.co.uk> wrote: >>> On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 16:03:10 -0800 (PST) >>>=?UTF-8?B?w5bDtiBUaWli?= <ootiib@hot.ee> wrote: >>>>On Sunday, 15 December 2019 00:17:11 UTC+2, Melzzzzz wrote: >>>>> C++ can be quite clean language, written. >>>> >>>>Sure, and with cleanly written code the tools tend to be content as=20 >>>>well. >>>>But we have to be capable of reading code of others anyway if >>>>for nothing else then for constructively explaining why it is bad >>>>to use it like that. The C++98 was already huge in that sense. >>>>Then C++11 came and changed everything by quadrupling the language >>>>with move semantics, lambdas and constexpr. In February C++2020 will >>>>quadruple it again. I feel like too old for learning it all >>>>once again. :( >>> >>> You're not the only one. However no doubt I and many others will have to >>learn >>> all the extra pointless BS in c++20 simply in order to get our CVs through >>the >>> door for future job interviews. I doubt I will ever use any of it - I hardly >>> use anything from C++14 and so far nothing from 17 in my own projects. In >>> fact my last 2 projects work and personal were in plain C. >> >>I use C only when necessary. When I have to. syntactic sugar of C++ is >>what makes me use it. And I hate macros. > > If you do cross platform systems or network programming you have no choice but > to use macros even in C++17. I can use macros but I don't write them... > -- press any key to continue or any other to quit... U ničemu ja ne uživam kao u svom statusu INVALIDA -- Zli Zec Svi smo svedoci - oko 3 godine intenzivne propagande je dovoljno da jedan narod poludi -- Zli Zec Na divljem zapadu i nije bilo tako puno nasilja, upravo zato jer su svi bili naoruzani. -- Mladen Gogala
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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-12-15 15:11 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <qt6ejl$nov$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #70484 |
On 12/15/2019 12:49 PM, Melzzzzz wrote: > On 2019-12-15, boltar@nowhere.co.uk <boltar@nowhere.co.uk> wrote: >> On Sun, 15 Dec 2019 11:18:43 GMT >> Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> wrote: >>> On 2019-12-15, boltar@nowhere.co.uk <boltar@nowhere.co.uk> wrote: [...] >>> I use C only when necessary. When I have to. syntactic sugar of C++ is >>> what makes me use it. And I hate macros. >> >> If you do cross platform systems or network programming you have no choice but >> to use macros even in C++17. > > I can use macros but I don't write them... Have you ever experienced the Boost preprocessor macros? Iirc, it was the Chaos lib way back. Some hardcore shi%. ;^)
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| From | Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> |
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| Date | 2019-12-15 23:28 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <6kzJF.82350$D02.12802@fx05.am4> |
| In reply to | #70485 |
On 2019-12-15, Chris M. Thomasson <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote: > On 12/15/2019 12:49 PM, Melzzzzz wrote: >> On 2019-12-15, boltar@nowhere.co.uk <boltar@nowhere.co.uk> wrote: >>> On Sun, 15 Dec 2019 11:18:43 GMT >>> Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> wrote: >>>> On 2019-12-15, boltar@nowhere.co.uk <boltar@nowhere.co.uk> wrote: > [...] >>>> I use C only when necessary. When I have to. syntactic sugar of C++ is >>>> what makes me use it. And I hate macros. >>> >>> If you do cross platform systems or network programming you have no choice but >>> to use macros even in C++17. >> >> I can use macros but I don't write them... > > Have you ever experienced the Boost preprocessor macros? Iirc, it was > the Chaos lib way back. Some hardcore shi%. > > ;^) Heh, I never used boost as well :P -- press any key to continue or any other to quit... U ničemu ja ne uživam kao u svom statusu INVALIDA -- Zli Zec Svi smo svedoci - oko 3 godine intenzivne propagande je dovoljno da jedan narod poludi -- Zli Zec Na divljem zapadu i nije bilo tako puno nasilja, upravo zato jer su svi bili naoruzani. -- Mladen Gogala
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| From | Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> |
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| Date | 2019-12-15 15:41 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <2b588d5b-b947-41d9-a5bd-4671534196df@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #70486 |
On Monday, 16 December 2019 01:28:14 UTC+2, Melzzzzz wrote: > On 2019-12-15, Chris M. Thomasson <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 12/15/2019 12:49 PM, Melzzzzz wrote: > >> On 2019-12-15, boltar@nowhere.co.uk <boltar@nowhere.co.uk> wrote: > >>> On Sun, 15 Dec 2019 11:18:43 GMT > >>> Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> wrote: > >>>> On 2019-12-15, boltar@nowhere.co.uk <boltar@nowhere.co.uk> wrote: > > [...] > >>>> I use C only when necessary. When I have to. syntactic sugar of C++ is > >>>> what makes me use it. And I hate macros. > >>> > >>> If you do cross platform systems or network programming you have no choice but > >>> to use macros even in C++17. > >> > >> I can use macros but I don't write them... > > > > Have you ever experienced the Boost preprocessor macros? Iirc, it was > > the Chaos lib way back. Some hardcore shi%. > > > > ;^) > > Heh, I never used boost as well :P Last 15 years it has been almost inevitable to use something from boost in bigger project. Other way is to write precisely same thing yourself. Did you have myFilesystem, myOptional and myVariant before C++17?
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