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  Re: My Delphi projects work with C++Builder.. Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-11-16 17:31 +0100
    Re: My Delphi projects work with C++Builder.. Wisdom90 <d@d.d> - 2019-11-16 11:34 -0500
      Re: My Delphi projects work with C++Builder.. Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-11-16 17:42 +0100
    Re: My Delphi projects work with C++Builder.. Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2019-11-16 17:42 +0000
      Re: My Delphi projects work with C++Builder.. David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-11-16 19:19 +0100
        Re: My Delphi projects work with C++Builder.. Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-11-16 19:30 +0100
          Re: My Delphi projects work with C++Builder.. David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-11-16 21:50 +0100
            Re: My Delphi projects work with C++Builder.. Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-11-17 09:12 +0100
              Re: My Delphi projects work with C++Builder.. David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-11-17 11:12 +0100
      Re: My Delphi projects work with C++Builder.. Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2019-11-17 07:49 +1300
        Re: My Delphi projects work with C++Builder.. Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2019-11-16 19:41 +0000
    Re: My Delphi projects work with C++Builder.. Cholo Lennon <chololennon@hotmail.com> - 2019-11-16 15:09 -0300
      Re: My Delphi projects work with C++Builder.. Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-11-16 19:32 +0100
        Re: My Delphi projects work with C++Builder.. Wisdom90 <d@d.d> - 2019-11-16 14:54 -0500
          Re: My Delphi projects work with C++Builder.. Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-11-16 20:56 +0100
        Re: My Delphi projects work with C++Builder.. Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk> - 2019-11-16 20:36 +0000
        Re: My Delphi projects work with C++Builder.. Cholo Lennon <chololennon@hotmail.com> - 2019-11-16 17:41 -0300
        Re: My Delphi projects work with C++Builder.. David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-11-16 21:55 +0100
          Re: My Delphi projects work with C++Builder.. Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-11-16 21:27 +0000
            Re: My Delphi projects work with C++Builder.. Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-11-16 23:08 +0000
            Re: My Delphi projects work with C++Builder.. David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-11-17 00:06 +0100
          Re: My Delphi projects work with C++Builder.. Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-11-16 13:35 -0800
            Re: My Delphi projects work with C++Builder.. Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-11-16 23:00 +0000
            Re: My Delphi projects work with C++Builder.. Bo Persson <bo@bo-persson.se> - 2019-11-16 23:59 +0100
              Re: My Delphi projects work with C++Builder.. Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-11-16 23:06 +0000
          Re: My Delphi projects work with C++Builder.. Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-11-17 09:11 +0100
            Re: My Delphi projects work with C++Builder.. Bo Persson <bo@bo-persson.se> - 2019-11-17 09:40 +0100

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#69797 — Re: My Delphi projects work with C++Builder..

Am 16.11.2019 um 17:23 schrieb Wisdom90:
> Hello,
> My Delphi projects work with C++Builder..
> Here is C++Builder: https://www.embarcadero.com/products/cbuilder
> Here is how to use my Delphi projects with C++Builder:
> Mixing Delphi and C++
> https://community.idera.com/developer-tools/b/blog/posts/mixing-delphi-and-c 

No one has the weird idea to mix Delphi and C++. And often there is code
with generic classes which can't be mixed. Accept it or not: Delphi is
and will never be relevant in the world of sw-development. At the time
when Delphi hit the market, the train for Pascal-derivatives had already
come to an end.

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#69798

On 11/16/2019 11:31 AM, Bonita Montero wrote:
> Am 16.11.2019 um 17:23 schrieb Wisdom90:
>> Hello,
>> My Delphi projects work with C++Builder..
>> Here is C++Builder: https://www.embarcadero.com/products/cbuilder
>> Here is how to use my Delphi projects with C++Builder:
>> Mixing Delphi and C++
>> https://community.idera.com/developer-tools/b/blog/posts/mixing-delphi-and-c 
> 
> 
> No one has the weird idea to mix Delphi and C++. And often there is code
> with generic classes which can't be mixed. Accept it or not: Delphi is
> and will never be relevant in the world of sw-development. At the time
> when Delphi hit the market, the train for Pascal-derivatives had already
> come to an end.



You are not understanding, C++ is easy for me, i can learn it much more 
easily and quickly.


Thank you,
Amine Moulay Ramdane.

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#69803

>> No one has the weird idea to mix Delphi and C++. And often there is code
>> with generic classes which can't be mixed. Accept it or not: Delphi is
>> and will never be relevant in the world of sw-development. At the time
>> when Delphi hit the market, the train for Pascal-derivatives had already
>> come to an end.

> You are not understanding, C++ is easy for me, i can learn it much more 
> easily and quickly.

C++ isn't an easy language and even if you have been programming for a
long time you will hit subtleties again and again.

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#69808

On Sat, 2019-11-16, Bonita Montero wrote:
> Am 16.11.2019 um 17:23 schrieb Wisdom90:
>> Hello,
>> My Delphi projects work with C++Builder..
>> Here is C++Builder: https://www.embarcadero.com/products/cbuilder
>> Here is how to use my Delphi projects with C++Builder:
>> Mixing Delphi and C++
>> https://community.idera.com/developer-tools/b/blog/posts/mixing-delphi-and-c 
>
> No one has the weird idea to mix Delphi and C++.

Please don't crosspost Amine's crazy threads into this group!
Unless you really /are/ trying to damage it.

/Jorgen

-- 
  // Jorgen Grahn <grahn@  Oo  o.   .     .
\X/     snipabacken.se>   O  o   .

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#69813

On 16/11/2019 18:42, Jorgen Grahn wrote:
> On Sat, 2019-11-16, Bonita Montero wrote:
>> Am 16.11.2019 um 17:23 schrieb Wisdom90:
>>> Hello,
>>> My Delphi projects work with C++Builder..
>>> Here is C++Builder: https://www.embarcadero.com/products/cbuilder
>>> Here is how to use my Delphi projects with C++Builder:
>>> Mixing Delphi and C++
>>> https://community.idera.com/developer-tools/b/blog/posts/mixing-delphi-and-c
>>
>> No one has the weird idea to mix Delphi and C++.
> 
> Please don't crosspost Amine's crazy threads into this group!
> Unless you really /are/ trying to damage it.
> 

Bonita specifically started the thread "Task for Amine", in order to 
insult the guy, and start a "fight" thread.  We all know Amine makes 
annoying posts, but that is because he is clearly not quite right in the 
head.  But Bonita's posts recently are bring a whole new level of 
nastiness into it.  It is really unpleasant.

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#69815

> Bonita specifically started the thread "Task for Amine", in order to 
> insult the guy, and start a "fight" thread.

No, that's not a fight. I thought he could be encouraged to write his
code in a language which is more accepted and write code for a problem
that he might like since he had done a lot of parallel code.

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#69829

On 16/11/2019 19:30, Bonita Montero wrote:
>> Bonita specifically started the thread "Task for Amine", in order to 
>> insult the guy, and start a "fight" thread.
> 
> No, that's not a fight. I thought he could be encouraged to write his
> code in a language which is more accepted and write code for a problem
> that he might like since he had done a lot of parallel code.

No, you didn't.  There are many ways to describe you based on your 
postings - "stupid" is not one of them.

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#69851

>> No, that's not a fight. I thought he could be encouraged to write his
>> code in a language which is more accepted and write code for a problem
>> that he might like since he had done a lot of parallel code.

> No, you didn't.  There are many ways to describe you based on your 
> postings - "stupid" is not one of them.

You can't read my mind.

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#69857

On 17/11/2019 09:12, Bonita Montero wrote:
>>> No, that's not a fight. I thought he could be encouraged to write his
>>> code in a language which is more accepted and write code for a problem
>>> that he might like since he had done a lot of parallel code.
> 
>> No, you didn't.  There are many ways to describe you based on your 
>> postings - "stupid" is not one of them.
> 
> You can't read my mind.
> 

Right... so you are stupid, not nasty?  Okay, I'll take your word for it.

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#69819

On 17/11/2019 06:42, Jorgen Grahn wrote:
> 
> Please don't crosspost Amine's crazy threads into this group!
> Unless you really /are/ trying to damage it.

Trolls do what trolls do...

-- 
Ian.

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#69823

On Sat, 2019-11-16, Ian Collins wrote:
> On 17/11/2019 06:42, Jorgen Grahn wrote:
>> 
>> Please don't crosspost Amine's crazy threads into this group!
>> Unless you really /are/ trying to damage it.
>
> Trolls do what trolls do...

I think I remember from earlier discussions that we have different
definitions of "troll" -- mine is "someone whose goal is to disrupt
discussion".  Until now I've assumed BM isn't a troll, acts in good
faith -- but has some kind of social handicap.

The end result is the same, though, and I agree that interaction with
BM here is pointless.

/Jorgen

-- 
  // Jorgen Grahn <grahn@  Oo  o.   .     .
\X/     snipabacken.se>   O  o   .

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#69812

On 11/16/19 1:31 PM, Bonita Montero wrote:
> Am 16.11.2019 um 17:23 schrieb Wisdom90:
>> Hello,
>> My Delphi projects work with C++Builder..
>> Here is C++Builder: https://www.embarcadero.com/products/cbuilder
>> Here is how to use my Delphi projects with C++Builder:
>> Mixing Delphi and C++
>> https://community.idera.com/developer-tools/b/blog/posts/mixing-delphi-and-c 
> 
> 
> No one has the weird idea to mix Delphi and C++. And often there is code
> with generic classes which can't be mixed. Accept it or not: Delphi is
> and will never be relevant in the world of sw-development. At the time
> when Delphi hit the market, the train for Pascal-derivatives had already
> come to an end.

Mixing Delphi and C++ (C++ Builder) is not a crazy idea. Actually it is 
very common in the "world" of Embarcadero (the company that currently 
own those tools). Why is very common? Because the GUI libraries (VCL and 
FireMonKey) that are used by C++ Builder are built with Delphi. The 
interoperability between both languages is really easy if you follow 
some simple rules... just compile with one compiler and use it with the 
other (of course, there a lot of C++ features that cannot be used in 
Delphi).

Last but not least, accept it or not: Delphi is still relevant in the 
world of software development (I know, the TIOBE index is not best 
source, but check it too see Delphi there on top of go, rust, 
TypeScript, Scala, Dart, Visual Basic, etc)

Regards

--
Cholo Lennon
Bs.As.
ARG

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#69817

> Mixing Delphi and C++ (C++ Builder) is not a crazy idea. Actually it is 
> very common in the "world" of Embarcadero (the company that currently 
> own those tools). Why is very common? Because the GUI libraries (VCL and 
> FireMonKey) that are used by C++ Builder are built with Delphi.

Ok, that might be right. But you usually write code on your own which
mixes Delphi and C++ in the same project.
> Last but not least, accept it or not: Delphi is still relevant in the 
> world of software development (I know, the TIOBE index is not best 
> source, but check it too see Delphi there on top of go, rust, 
> TypeScript, Scala, Dart, Visual Basic, etc)

Delphi is about as relevant as COBOL. ;-)

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#69825

On 11/16/2019 1:32 PM, Bonita Montero wrote:
>> Mixing Delphi and C++ (C++ Builder) is not a crazy idea. Actually it 
>> is very common in the "world" of Embarcadero (the company that 
>> currently own those tools). Why is very common? Because the GUI 
>> libraries (VCL and FireMonKey) that are used by C++ Builder are built 
>> with Delphi.
> 
> Ok, that might be right. But you usually write code on your own which
> mixes Delphi and C++ in the same project.
>> Last but not least, accept it or not: Delphi is still relevant in the 
>> world of software development (I know, the TIOBE index is not best 
>> source, but check it too see Delphi there on top of go, rust, 
>> TypeScript, Scala, Dart, Visual Basic, etc)
> 
> Delphi is about as relevant as COBOL. ;-)


Hello,


Five reasons to learn Delphi

https://jonlennartaasenden.wordpress.com/2019/02/08/5reasons/


Thank you,
Amine Moulay Ramdane.

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#69826

>>> Last but not least, accept it or not: Delphi is still relevant in the 
>>> world of software development (I know, the TIOBE index is not best 
>>> source, but check it too see Delphi there on top of go, rust, 
>>> TypeScript, Scala, Dart, Visual Basic, etc)

>> Delphi is about as relevant as COBOL. ;-)

> Hello,
> Five reasons to learn Delphi
> https://jonlennartaasenden.wordpress.com/2019/02/08/5reasons/

And the best: if you want to get an employment as a Delphi-developer
you have to move away very far.

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#69827

On 16/11/2019 18:32, Bonita Montero wrote:
>> Mixing Delphi and C++ (C++ Builder) is not a crazy idea. Actually it is 
>> very common in the "world" of Embarcadero (the company that currently 
>> own those tools). Why is very common? Because the GUI libraries (VCL and 
>> FireMonKey) that are used by C++ Builder are built with Delphi.
> 
> Ok, that might be right. But you usually write code on your own which
> mixes Delphi and C++ in the same project.

I am making a universal compiler that can compile ANY programming language 
and that allows you to mix ANY programming language with ANY OTHER 
programming language in the same source file.

/Flibble

-- 
"Snakes didn't evolve, instead talking snakes with legs changed into 
snakes." - Rick C. Hodgin

“You won’t burn in hell. But be nice anyway.” – Ricky Gervais

“I see Atheists are fighting and killing each other again, over who 
doesn’t believe in any God the most. Oh, no..wait.. that never happens.” – 
Ricky Gervais

"Suppose it's all true, and you walk up to the pearly gates, and are 
confronted by God," Bryne asked on his show The Meaning of Life. "What 
will Stephen Fry say to him, her, or it?"
"I'd say, bone cancer in children? What's that about?" Fry replied.
"How dare you? How dare you create a world to which there is such misery 
that is not our fault. It's not right, it's utterly, utterly evil."
"Why should I respect a capricious, mean-minded, stupid God who creates a 
world that is so full of injustice and pain. That's what I would say."

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#69828

On 11/16/19 3:32 PM, Bonita Montero wrote:
>> Mixing Delphi and C++ (C++ Builder) is not a crazy idea. Actually it 
>> is very common in the "world" of Embarcadero (the company that 
>> currently own those tools). Why is very common? Because the GUI 
>> libraries (VCL and FireMonKey) that are used by C++ Builder are built 
>> with Delphi.
> 
> Ok, that might be right. But you usually write code on your own which
> mixes Delphi and C++ in the same project.
>> Last but not least, accept it or not: Delphi is still relevant in the 
>> world of software development (I know, the TIOBE index is not best 
>> source, but check it too see Delphi there on top of go, rust, 
>> TypeScript, Scala, Dart, Visual Basic, etc)
> 
> Delphi is about as relevant as COBOL. ;-)

Well, a month ago I received an offer on Linkedin (Delphi Software 
Developer), I have to confess that that surprised me :-O (my last 
contact with Delphi/C++ Builder was 15 years ago). In some parts of 
Argentina, Delphi is still relevant, but of course, not like years ago. 
It's a very good product IMHO, but it's proprietary, very expensive and 
the cool kids today use web interfaces even in the desktop land :-O

Regards

Cholo Lennon
Bs.As.
ARG

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#69830

On 16/11/2019 19:32, Bonita Montero wrote:
>> Mixing Delphi and C++ (C++ Builder) is not a crazy idea. Actually it 
>> is very common in the "world" of Embarcadero (the company that 
>> currently own those tools). Why is very common? Because the GUI 
>> libraries (VCL and FireMonKey) that are used by C++ Builder are built 
>> with Delphi.
> 
> Ok, that might be right. But you usually write code on your own which
> mixes Delphi and C++ in the same project.
>> Last but not least, accept it or not: Delphi is still relevant in the 
>> world of software development (I know, the TIOBE index is not best 
>> source, but check it too see Delphi there on top of go, rust, 
>> TypeScript, Scala, Dart, Visual Basic, etc)
> 
> Delphi is about as relevant as COBOL. ;-)

COBOL is massively relevant - even today.  I am not convinced by the 
estimates I have read of the quantity of COBOL code written in recent 
years, but even if they are out by a couple of orders of magnitude, 
COBOL is still a huge industry and a major programming language.

In the same vein, Delphi is a major language / development tool, with a 
very large base in commercial companies.  It is relatively small in the 
world of open source, sourceforge, github, etc., and so on.  When you 
are using close source software on Windows, you won't know it is written 
in Delphi - but it might well be.

And yes, there is plenty of software that mixes C++ and Delphi.

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#69833

On 2019-11-16, David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:
> On 16/11/2019 19:32, Bonita Montero wrote:
>>> Mixing Delphi and C++ (C++ Builder) is not a crazy idea. Actually it 
>>> is very common in the "world" of Embarcadero (the company that 
>>> currently own those tools). Why is very common? Because the GUI 
>>> libraries (VCL and FireMonKey) that are used by C++ Builder are built 
>>> with Delphi.
>> 
>> Ok, that might be right. But you usually write code on your own which
>> mixes Delphi and C++ in the same project.
>>> Last but not least, accept it or not: Delphi is still relevant in the 
>>> world of software development (I know, the TIOBE index is not best 
>>> source, but check it too see Delphi there on top of go, rust, 
>>> TypeScript, Scala, Dart, Visual Basic, etc)
>> 
>> Delphi is about as relevant as COBOL. ;-)
>
> COBOL is massively relevant - even today.  I am not convinced by the 
> estimates I have read of the quantity of COBOL code written in recent 
> years, but even if they are out by a couple of orders of magnitude, 
> COBOL is still a huge industry and a major programming language.
>
> In the same vein, Delphi is a major language / development tool, with a 
> very large base in commercial companies.  It is relatively small in the 
> world of open source, sourceforge, github, etc., and so on.  When you 
> are using close source software on Windows, you won't know it is written 
> in Delphi - but it might well be.
>
> And yes, there is plenty of software that mixes C++ and Delphi.

Delphi is for small one shot projects... usefull for single developer
when she wants to deliver fast. Used C++ Builder in 90es. Served it's
purpose...
>


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#69840

On 2019-11-16, David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:
> On 16/11/2019 22:27, Melzzzzz wrote:
>> 
>> Delphi is for small one shot projects... usefull for single developer
>> when she wants to deliver fast. Used C++ Builder in 90es. Served it's
>> purpose...
>
> It is - and perhaps that is mostly the case.  But it is also used in 
> some massive projects (I know of a few).  When it came out, the only 
> serious RAD tool for Windows was Visual Basic.  There was nothing 
> remotely similar for C++.  If you wanted to be able to make a GUI 
> program for Windows without a great deal of manual labour, and you 
> wanted a strongly typed, structured compiled programming language, 
> Delphi was your tool of choice.
>
> Its heyday has long past, but projects often have history - there are a 
> lot of programs that continue to be developed in Delphi simply because 
> they were originally developed in Delphi.  It is a lot less common as a 
> choice for new software projects.
>

For what is worth, I think that Delphi is most used in eastern
countries... Russia come to my mind...


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Svi smo svedoci - oko 3 godine intenzivne propagande je dovoljno da jedan narod poludi --  Zli Zec
Na divljem zapadu i nije bilo tako puno nasilja, upravo zato jer su svi 
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