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| Started by | Cholo Lennon <chololennon@hotmail.com> |
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| First post | 2011-07-14 02:51 -0300 |
| Last post | 2011-07-20 00:36 +0530 |
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What's your opinion? "C++ is back..." Cholo Lennon <chololennon@hotmail.com> - 2011-07-14 02:51 -0300
Re: What's your opinion? "C++ is back..." Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2011-07-14 09:21 +0000
Re: What's your opinion? "C++ is back..." Lynn McGuire <lmc@winsim.com> - 2011-07-14 11:52 -0500
Re: What's your opinion? "C++ is back..." Ebenezer <woodbrian77@gmail.com> - 2011-07-15 01:28 -0700
Re: What's your opinion? "C++ is back..." "MikeP" <mp011011@some.org> - 2011-07-15 23:53 -0500
Re: What's your opinion? "C++ is back..." Todd Carnes <toddcarnes@gmail.com> - 2011-07-16 12:53 +0000
Re: What's your opinion? "C++ is back..." "MikeP" <mp011011@some.org> - 2011-07-16 15:37 -0500
Re: What's your opinion? "C++ is back..." Todd Carnes <toddcarnes@gmail.com> - 2011-07-17 03:59 +0000
Re: What's your opinion? "C++ is back..." "MikeP" <mp011011@some.org> - 2011-07-17 00:20 -0500
Re: What's your opinion? "C++ is back..." Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2011-07-22 10:39 +0100
Re: What's your opinion? "C++ is back..." David Harmon <source@netcom.com> - 2011-07-16 04:38 -0700
Re: What's your opinion? "C++ is back..." Surinder Singh <surinder@teranews.com> - 2011-07-20 00:36 +0530
| From | Cholo Lennon <chololennon@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2011-07-14 02:51 -0300 |
| Subject | What's your opinion? "C++ is back..." |
| Message-ID | <ivm054$1js$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
"C++ is Back with a Vengeance" http://www.informit.com/guides/content.aspx?g=cplusplus&seqNum=545 What's your opinion? Regards PS: I'm sorry if you read comp.std.c++ (moderated) for multiposting this message -- Cholo Lennon Bs.As. ARG
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| From | Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> |
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| Date | 2011-07-14 09:21 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <4e1eb51a$0$2835$7b1e8fa0@news.nbl.fi> |
| In reply to | #7792 |
Cholo Lennon <chololennon@hotmail.com> wrote: > "C++ is Back with a Vengeance" > http://www.informit.com/guides/content.aspx?g=cplusplus&seqNum=545 > > What's your opinion? To be completely honest, for a time I was a bit worried that my forte, the programming language I'm by far most fluent with, would slowly fade into obsolescence. For many years this seemed to be strongly the case (first with Java, although that was never the worst contended, and then especially with C# and other higher-level .NET languages). It's nice to see that C++ might not, after all, become obsolete anytime soon.
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| From | Lynn McGuire <lmc@winsim.com> |
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| Date | 2011-07-14 11:52 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ivn6sa$l3s$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #7792 |
On 7/14/2011 12:51 AM, Cholo Lennon wrote: > "C++ is Back with a Vengeance" > http://www.informit.com/guides/content.aspx?g=cplusplus&seqNum=545 > > What's your opinion? C++ never went away. If you need performance, Fortran, C and C++ are the way to go. In fact, we are the process of converting our fortran code to C++ for portability, maintainability and better parallelism. Lynn
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| From | Ebenezer <woodbrian77@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2011-07-15 01:28 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <c1586df3-d298-4ff3-b6b8-4c368dfb5b00@e35g2000yqc.googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #7792 |
On Jul 14, 12:51 am, Cholo Lennon <chololen...@hotmail.com> wrote: > "C++ is Back with a Vengeance"http://www.informit.com/guides/content.aspx?g=cplusplus&seqNum=545 > > What's your opinion? > C++ is still going strong. It will be interesting to see how things shake out. The world isn't built on C++ though. Brian Wood Ebenezer Enterprises http://webEbenezer.net
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| From | "MikeP" <mp011011@some.org> |
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| Date | 2011-07-15 23:53 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ivr5gb$csh$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #7827 |
> On Jul 14, 12:51 am, Cholo Lennon <chololen...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> "C++ is Back with a >> Vengeance"http://www.informit.com/guides/content.aspx?g=cplusplus&seqNum=545 >> >> What's your opinion? It depends on what Microsoft decides. ;)
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| From | Todd Carnes <toddcarnes@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2011-07-16 12:53 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pan.2011.07.16.12.53.43@gmail.com> |
| In reply to | #7862 |
On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 23:53:39 -0500, MikeP wrote: > It depends on what Microsoft decides. Who cares what Microsoft thinks about anything?
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| From | "MikeP" <mp011011@some.org> |
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| Date | 2011-07-16 15:37 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ivssq2$n3h$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #7873 |
Todd Carnes wrote: > On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 23:53:39 -0500, MikeP wrote: > >> It depends on what Microsoft decides. > > Who cares what Microsoft thinks about anything? You misquoted me: you left off the wink emoticon. To answer your question though, the fact is that MS has a lot of power to affect the way developers create software because of the omni-presence of its own software. If MS decides to drop C++ as a viable Windows development tool (incrementally maybe by creating things like "managed code" and requiring C++/CLI to use .Net, etc.), it can do so and you can complain all you want to but if you want to deploy your software on theirs, then you will just have to grin and bare it. (Another example: No inline assembler in VC++ for 64-bit Windows :( ).
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| From | Todd Carnes <toddcarnes@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2011-07-17 03:59 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pan.2011.07.17.03.59.02@gmail.com> |
| In reply to | #7886 |
On Sat, 16 Jul 2011 15:37:29 -0500, MikeP wrote: > Todd Carnes wrote: >> On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 23:53:39 -0500, MikeP wrote: >> >>> It depends on what Microsoft decides. >> >> Who cares what Microsoft thinks about anything? > > You misquoted me: you left off the wink emoticon. Sorry about that. It was unintentional. > To answer your > question though, the fact is that MS has a lot of power to affect the > way developers create software because of the omni-presence of its own > software. If MS decides to drop C++ as a viable Windows development tool > (incrementally maybe by creating things like "managed code" and > requiring C++/CLI to use .Net, etc.), it can do so and you can complain > all you want to but if you want to deploy your software on theirs, then > you will just have to grin and bare it. (Another example: No inline > assembler in VC++ for 64-bit Windows :( ). I realize after reviewing my post that I probably came across as an a##hole. My question could have been worded better. Thanks responding. You make some good points. Todd
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| From | "MikeP" <mp011011@some.org> |
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| Date | 2011-07-17 00:20 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ivtrfd$ms7$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #7902 |
Todd Carnes wrote: > On Sat, 16 Jul 2011 15:37:29 -0500, MikeP wrote: > >> Todd Carnes wrote: >>> On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 23:53:39 -0500, MikeP wrote: >>> >>>> It depends on what Microsoft decides. >>> >>> Who cares what Microsoft thinks about anything? >> >> You misquoted me: you left off the wink emoticon. > > Sorry about that. It was unintentional. I was just checking. It was the important part, ya know (though you know now that I wasn't being COMPLETELY facetious). > >> To answer your >> question though, the fact is that MS has a lot of power to affect the >> way developers create software because of the omni-presence of its >> own software. If MS decides to drop C++ as a viable Windows >> development tool (incrementally maybe by creating things like >> "managed code" and requiring C++/CLI to use .Net, etc.), it can do >> so and you can complain all you want to but if you want to deploy >> your software on theirs, then you will just have to grin and bare >> it. (Another example: No inline assembler in VC++ for 64-bit Windows >> :( ). > > I realize after reviewing my post that I probably came across as an > a##hole. It's internet, you didn't, and don't worry about it. The subtlety of text is EASILY misconstrued. If one WANTED to, it is EASY to make text words have meanings other than meant by the writer of the text. Actually, there are those who would/will/do EXPLOIT that subtleness. They use THEIR dictionairies and they own interpretations and MORE THAN SUGGEST that THAT is the TRUE MEANING. Forget about the writer's thoughts. The writer of the text is OUT OF THE EQUATION. Opportunists of evil? Indeed. > My question could have been worded better. Thanks responding. > You make some good points.
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| From | Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2011-07-22 10:39 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <4e29475c$0$21649$a729d347@news.telepac.pt> |
| In reply to | #7862 |
MikeP wrote: > It depends on what Microsoft decides. ;) Why? In spite of microsoft's heavy investment on technologies such as C# and Silverlight, the market is still dominated by the incumbent technologies. Rui Maciel
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| From | David Harmon <source@netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2011-07-16 04:38 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <3pCdnfG-97Du5bzTnZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@earthlink.com> |
| In reply to | #7792 |
On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 02:51:32 -0300 in comp.lang.c++, Cholo Lennon <chololennon@hotmail.com> wrote, >"C++ is Back with a Vengeance" "Why your next language better be C++" http://www.i-programmer.info/professional-programmer/i-programmer/2674-why-your-next-language-better-be-c.html
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| From | Surinder Singh <surinder@teranews.com> |
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| Date | 2011-07-20 00:36 +0530 |
| Message-ID | <bvkVp.87844$8G4.16891@newsfe17.iad> |
| In reply to | #7792 |
On 7/14/2011 11:21 AM, Cholo Lennon wrote: > "C++ is Back with a Vengeance" > http://www.informit.com/guides/content.aspx?g=cplusplus&seqNum=545 > > What's your opinion? > > Regards > > > PS: I'm sorry if you read comp.std.c++ (moderated) for multiposting this > message > > -- > Cholo Lennon > Bs.As. > ARG > C++ can be pretty powerful in app design and execution. But it can also entangle a meek soul in memory corruptions and screwed exception handling across c++ libs built using different compilers. C++ can be more punishing than Java for impulsive developers. Java has beutiful javadocs, description for C functions is usually available with man pages on unix. C++ compilers should include some nice documentation tool with search capability. C++ certainly owns a lot of ground. - Surinder
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