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===Welcome to comp.lang.c++! Read this first.

Started byShiva <jshiva@bigfoot.com>
First post2011-06-08 16:30 +0000
Last post2011-06-16 20:05 +0200
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  ===Welcome to comp.lang.c++! Read this first. Shiva <jshiva@bigfoot.com> - 2011-06-08 16:30 +0000
    Re: ===Welcome to comp.lang.c++! Read this first. Asger-P <junk@asger-p.dk> - 2011-06-08 22:00 +0200
      Re: ===Welcome to comp.lang.c++! Read this first. "Alf P. Steinbach /Usenet" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com> - 2011-06-08 23:41 +0200
        Re: ===Welcome to comp.lang.c++! Read this first. red floyd <redfloyd@gmail.com> - 2011-06-09 09:20 -0700
        Re: ===Welcome to comp.lang.c++! Read this first. Asger-P <junk@asger-p.dk> - 2011-06-15 22:24 +0200
          Re: ===Welcome to comp.lang.c++! Read this first. "Alf P. Steinbach /Usenet" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com> - 2011-06-16 00:47 +0200
            Re: ===Welcome to comp.lang.c++! Read this first. Asger-P <junk@asger-p.dk> - 2011-06-16 20:05 +0200

#6430 — ===Welcome to comp.lang.c++! Read this first.

FromShiva <jshiva@bigfoot.com>
Date2011-06-08 16:30 +0000
Subject===Welcome to comp.lang.c++! Read this first.
Message-ID<iso82k$imi$1@news.datemas.de>
Welcome to comp.lang.c++! Read this first.

This post is intended to give the new reader an introduction to reading
and posting in this newsgroup. We respectfully request that you read
all the way through this post, as it helps make for a more pleasant
and useful group for everyone.

First of all, please keep in mind that comp.lang.c++ is a group for discussion
of general issues of the C++ programming language, as defined by the ANSI/ISO
language standard. If you have a problem that is specific to a particular system
or compiler, you are much more likely to get complete and accurate answers in a 
group that specializes in your platform. A listing of some newsgroups is given
at the end of this post.

The FAQ (Frequently Asked Question) list has a wealth of information for
both the new and veteran C++ programmer.  No matter what your experience
level, you are encouraged to read the entire list, if only to familiarize
yourself with what answers are available to minimize redundant replies.
The comp.lang.c++ FAQ is available at http://www.parashift.com/c++-faq-lite/

If the FAQ list does not help, then many regular readers of this group
are happy to assist with problems of standard C++.  We have only a few
requests that we ask be adhered to, for the benefit of all:

* Please put a short summary in the subject line.  Descriptions such as
  "HELP!!!!!!" are not helpful, and many regular posters ignore such
  requests.  A good example is, "Problem with Virtual Functions."

* State the question or the problem clearly and concisely.  Describe what
  you are trying to do, and the problem you are running into.  Include all
  relevant error messages.

* Include the smallest, complete and compilable program that exhibits your
  problem.  As a rule, posters in comp.lang.c++ will not do homework, but will
  give helpful hints if you have shown some willingness to try a solution.

* comp.lang.c++ is forum for discussion, and as such some regular posters do
  not give E-mail replies.  Very often follow-ups to postings have corrections,
  so plan on taking part in the discussion if you post a question.  If you
  do receive e-mail replies, it is considered polite to post a summary.

* Don't post in HTML format. Many readers of this newsgroup don't use
  newsreaders which can handle HTML postings.

* If you have to include source code in your post, include the
  source in the message body. Don't use attachments. A lot
  of contributors to this newsgroup won't even notice the existence
  of attachments or won't open them. You try to get any help
  you can get, don't you?

Some netiquette topics which frequently crop up on comp.lang.c++ are
also answered in the FAQ.

* Should I post job advertisements and/or resumes on comp.lang.c++?
http://www.parashift.com/c++-faq-lite/how-to-post.html#faq-5.10

* What if I really need a job; should I post my resume on comp.lang.c++? 
http://www.parashift.com/c++-faq-lite/how-to-post.html#faq-5.11

* What should I do to someone who posts something off-topic? 
http://www.parashift.com/c++-faq-lite/how-to-post.html#faq-5.12

A note on comp.lang.c++ etiquette: Accuracy is valued very highly in this
newsgroup; therefore posts are frequently corrected, sometimes perhaps
too harshly, and often to the annoyance of new posters who consider the
correction trivial.  Do not take it personally; the best way to fit in
with comp.lang.c++ is to express gratitude for the correction, move on,
and be more careful next time.

This is a very busy group, so these requests are designed to make it as
pleasant and efficient an experience as possible.  We hope it proves
a valuable commodity to you.

A list of some Newsgroups :
Languages and Programming
-------------------------
comp.lang.c                The C Programming Language
comp.lang.asm.x86          x86 assembly language programming
comp.programming           Non-language specific programming
comp.graphics.algorithms   Issues of computer graphics

Operating Systems
-----------------
comp.os.msdos.programmer   DOS, BIOS, Memory Models, interrupts,
                           screen handling, hardware
comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32   MS/Windows: Mice, DLLs, hardware
comp.os.os2.programmer.misc          OS/2 Programming
comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc         Macintosh Programming
comp.unix.programmer                 General Unix: processes, pipes, POSIX,
                                     curses, sockets
comp.unix.[vendor]                   Various Unix vendors

Microsoft VC++
-------------
microsoft.public.vc.language VC++ issues
microsoft.public.vc.mfc      MFC Issues
microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.vc    C++/CLR Issues
microsoft.public.dotnet.framework       .Net Framework


Borland C++ Builder
-------------------
borland.public.cppbuilder.language   Borland C++ Builder
borland.public.cpp.language
borland.public.cppbuilder  

-Shiva
http://www.slack.net/~shiva/welcome.txt


Wed Jun  8 12:30:00 EDT 2011

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#6441

FromAsger-P <junk@asger-p.dk>
Date2011-06-08 22:00 +0200
Message-ID<op.vwrwi6d62juju3@ajwin7>
In reply to#6430
Hi Shiva

Why dont You update Your post ?
See my response last time.
Maybe You are just a spammer ?


Best regards
Asger-P

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#6446

From"Alf P. Steinbach /Usenet" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com>
Date2011-06-08 23:41 +0200
Message-ID<isoprs$f1f$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#6441
* Asger-P, on 08.06.2011 22:00, in response to the monthly welcome message:
>
> Hi Shiva

Shiva's real enough but do you think he's posting these messages manually?

I think not.

So, chances are you're addressing a robot poster here, like, starting a 
discussion with a television  --  not smart.


> Why dont You update Your post ?
> See my response last time.

The welcome message is posted monthly.


> Maybe You are just a spammer ?

No.

You would do well to try to learn about things before making such accusations.

There was a period where Shiva stopped posting, and Someone Else had to step in 
to do that duty, but happily Shiva's taken up the load again  --  thanks!


Cheers & hth.,

- Alf

-- 
blog at <url: http://alfps.wordpress.com>

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#6508

Fromred floyd <redfloyd@gmail.com>
Date2011-06-09 09:20 -0700
Message-ID<da1278a5-6214-4cce-97b3-d3b826d7faa4@dr5g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>
In reply to#6446
On Jun 8, 2:41 pm, "Alf P. Steinbach /Usenet" <alf.p.steinbach
+use...@gmail.com> wrote:

> There was a period where Shiva stopped posting, and Someone Else had to step in
> to do that duty, but happily Shiva's taken up the load again  --  thanks!


Didn't Arnuld volunteer to do that when Shiva was out?

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#6773

FromAsger-P <junk@asger-p.dk>
Date2011-06-15 22:24 +0200
Message-ID<op.vw4wasmi2juju3@ajwin7>
In reply to#6446
Hi Alf

On the: 08. of juni-2011 At: 23:41 Alf P. Steinbach /Usenet wrote:

>
> The welcome message is posted monthly.

It is some very short month You have.;-)

Do You know how to get in touch with shiva ?
He has some incorrect info in that message.


Best regards
Asger-P

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#6774

From"Alf P. Steinbach /Usenet" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com>
Date2011-06-16 00:47 +0200
Message-ID<itbc7n$33i$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#6773
* Asger-P, on 15.06.2011 22:24:
>
> Hi Alf
>
> On the: 08. of juni-2011 At: 23:41 Alf P. Steinbach /Usenet wrote:
>
>>
>> The welcome message is posted monthly.
>
> It is some very short month You have.;-)
>
> Do You know how to get in touch with shiva ?

You could try the e-mail address.

It is after all the same as he has on his web page.

Otherwise, there is a possibility that the guy who took over the job for some 
time *might* be reachable at arnuld3 at g-mail, at least that's the only 
possibly relevant address I see in Thunderbird's address book.


> He has some incorrect info in that message.

What?


Cheers & hth.,

- Alf

PS: See also [http://www.slack.net/~shiva/iaq.html] ;-)

-- 
blog at <url: http://alfps.wordpress.com>

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#6816

FromAsger-P <junk@asger-p.dk>
Date2011-06-16 20:05 +0200
Message-ID<op.vw6kjbes2juju3@ajwin7>
In reply to#6774
Hi Alf P. Steinbach /Usenet

On the: 16. of juni-2011 At: 00:47 Alf P. Steinbach /Usenet wrote:

> You could try the e-mail address.
>
> It is after all the same as he has on his web page.
>
> Otherwise, there is a possibility that the guy who took over the job for  
> some time *might* be reachable at arnuld3 at g-mail, at least that's the  
> only possibly relevant address I see in Thunderbird's address book.

Thanks for the info.

>> He has some incorrect info in that message.
>
> What?

He is sending people to some long dead Borland newsgroups,
that in the old days mirrored the real borland groups.
The real C++Builder groups exist and can be reached through
nntp, but one must now register at:
https://members.embarcadero.com/newuser.aspx
to get write access.



Best regards
Asger-P

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