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Regal eagle / American cloud

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First post2019-10-30 09:58 -0700
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  Regal eagle / American cloud woodbrian77@gmail.com - 2019-10-30 09:58 -0700
    Re: Regal eagle / American cloud Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk> - 2019-10-30 18:16 +0000
      Re: Regal eagle / American cloud Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk> - 2019-10-30 18:27 +0000
      Re: Regal eagle / American cloud Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk> - 2019-10-30 22:13 +0000
        Re: Regal eagle / American cloud woodbrian77@gmail.com - 2019-10-30 22:36 -0700
          Re: Regal eagle / American cloud Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2019-10-31 20:35 +1300
            Re: Regal eagle / American cloud woodbrian77@gmail.com - 2019-10-31 10:28 -0700
    Re: Regal eagle / American cloud Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-11-01 08:24 +0100
      Re: Regal eagle / American cloud Real Troll <Real.Troll@Trolls.com> - 2019-11-01 17:20 -0400
        Re: Regal eagle / American cloud Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2019-11-02 12:43 +1300
          Re: Regal eagle / American cloud Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com> - 2019-11-01 17:47 -0700
          Re: Regal eagle / American cloud woodbrian77@gmail.com - 2019-11-01 19:07 -0700
            Re: Regal eagle / American cloud Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk> - 2019-11-02 16:33 +0000
              Re: Regal eagle / American cloud woodbrian77@gmail.com - 2019-11-02 10:46 -0700
        Re: Regal eagle / American cloud Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-11-02 10:21 +0100
      Re: Regal eagle / American cloud woodbrian77@gmail.com - 2019-11-02 10:26 -0700
        Re: Regal eagle / American cloud Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-11-02 17:43 +0000
        Re: Regal eagle / American cloud Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-11-02 18:52 +0100
          Re: Regal eagle / American cloud woodbrian77@gmail.com - 2019-11-02 11:11 -0700
            Re: Regal eagle / American cloud David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-11-02 20:16 +0100
              Re: Regal eagle / American cloud Real Troll <Real.Troll@Trolls.com> - 2019-11-02 16:59 -0400
                Re: Regal eagle / American cloud Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk> - 2019-11-02 21:23 +0000
                Re: Regal eagle / American cloud woodbrian77@gmail.com - 2019-11-02 17:49 -0700
              Re: Regal eagle / American cloud woodbrian77@gmail.com - 2019-11-02 17:14 -0700
                Re: Regal eagle / American cloud Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk> - 2019-11-03 01:15 +0000
                  Re: Regal eagle / American cloud woodbrian77@gmail.com - 2019-11-02 19:01 -0700
                    Re: Regal eagle / American cloud Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk> - 2019-11-03 03:51 +0000
                      Re: Regal eagle / American cloud Brian Wood <woodbrian77@gmail.com> - 2021-03-09 20:24 -0800
                    Re: Regal eagle / American cloud David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-11-03 11:35 +0100
                      Re: Regal eagle / American cloud woodbrian77@gmail.com - 2019-11-03 20:04 -0800
                        Re: Regal eagle / American cloud Christian Gollwitzer <auriocus@gmx.de> - 2019-11-04 08:07 +0100
                        Re: Regal eagle / American cloud David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-11-04 09:08 +0100
                          Re: Regal eagle / American cloud woodbrian77@gmail.com - 2019-11-07 08:17 -0800
                            Re: Regal eagle / American cloud Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2019-11-07 16:52 +0000
                              Re: Regal eagle / American cloud woodbrian77@gmail.com - 2019-11-07 10:54 -0800
                                Re: Regal eagle / American cloud Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2019-11-07 21:33 +0000
                                  Re: Regal eagle / American cloud woodbrian77@gmail.com - 2019-11-09 16:28 -0800
                                    Re: Regal eagle / American cloud woodbrian77@gmail.com - 2019-11-11 22:33 -0800
                                      Re: Regal eagle / American cloud woodbrian77@gmail.com - 2019-11-12 08:26 -0800
                                      Re: Regal eagle / American cloud Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2019-11-12 15:54 -0800
                                        Re: Regal eagle / American cloud woodbrian77@gmail.com - 2020-01-31 21:59 -0800
                                  Re: Regal eagle / American cloud Brian Wood <woodbrian77@gmail.com> - 2020-12-03 09:40 -0800
                                  Re: Regal eagle / American cloud Brian Wood <woodbrian77@gmail.com> - 2020-12-03 09:40 -0800
                                  Re: Regal eagle / American cloud Brian Wood <woodbrian77@gmail.com> - 2021-01-18 20:48 -0800
                      Re: Regal eagle / American cloud Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2019-11-04 01:00 -0800
                Re: Regal eagle / American cloud Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-11-03 05:20 +0100
                Re: Regal eagle / American cloud David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-11-03 11:12 +0100
                  Re: Regal eagle / American cloud "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2019-11-04 00:30 -0800
                    Re: Regal eagle / American cloud David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-11-04 11:03 +0100
                      Re: Regal eagle / American cloud "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2019-11-11 23:38 -0800
                        Re: Regal eagle / American cloud "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2019-11-11 23:39 -0800
          Re: Regal eagle / American cloud "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2019-11-02 13:18 -0700
            Re: Regal eagle / American cloud Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-11-02 20:37 +0000
      Re: Regal eagle / American cloud woodbrian77@gmail.com - 2020-02-08 19:54 -0800
        Re: Regal eagle / American cloud Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2020-02-09 19:52 +1300
    Re: Regal eagle / American cloud "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2020-02-09 12:54 -0800
      Re: Regal eagle / American cloud woodbrian77@gmail.com - 2020-02-27 20:19 -0800
        Re: Regal eagle / American cloud Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk> - 2020-02-28 16:50 +0000
          Re: Regal eagle / American cloud "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2020-02-28 15:34 -0800
        Re: Regal eagle / American cloud "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2020-02-28 15:37 -0800
          Re: Regal eagle / American cloud woodbrian77@gmail.com - 2020-02-28 16:24 -0800
            Re: Regal eagle / American cloud Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2020-02-29 03:48 +0000
              Re: Regal eagle / American cloud "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2020-02-28 21:33 -0800
                Re: Regal eagle / American cloud Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk> - 2020-02-29 06:28 +0000
                  Re: Regal eagle / American cloud "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2020-02-28 22:34 -0800
                    Re: Regal eagle / American cloud Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2020-02-29 06:51 +0000
                      Re: Regal eagle / American cloud Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk> - 2020-02-29 07:34 +0000
                        Re: Regal eagle / American cloud "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2020-02-28 23:40 -0800
                        Re: Regal eagle / American cloud David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-03-01 14:46 +0100
                          Re: Regal eagle / American cloud "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2020-03-01 12:59 -0800
                            Re: Regal eagle / American cloud David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-03-01 22:47 +0100
                              Re: Regal eagle / American cloud red floyd <no.spam@its.invalid> - 2020-03-01 22:14 -0800
                                Re: Regal eagle / American cloud woodbrian77@gmail.com - 2020-03-03 08:06 -0800
                              Re: Regal eagle / American cloud "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2020-03-02 13:21 -0800
                                Re: Regal eagle / American cloud "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2020-03-02 13:24 -0800
                                  Re: Regal eagle / American cloud David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-03-03 08:11 +0100
                                    Re: Regal eagle / American cloud "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2020-03-03 01:31 -0800
                                      Re: Regal eagle / American cloud "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2020-03-03 01:33 -0800
                                    exception with distinct data members and concatenated what "daniel...@gmail.com" <danielaparker@gmail.com> - 2020-12-08 08:24 -0800
                                      Re: exception with distinct data members and concatenated what Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2020-12-08 10:26 -0800
                                        Re: exception with distinct data members and concatenated what "daniel...@gmail.com" <danielaparker@gmail.com> - 2020-12-08 11:00 -0800
                                          Re: exception with distinct data members and concatenated what Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2020-12-08 13:17 -0800
                                      Re: exception with distinct data members and concatenated what Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2020-12-08 22:13 +0200
                      Re: Regal eagle / American cloud "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2020-02-28 23:38 -0800
                  Re: Regal eagle / American cloud Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2020-02-29 06:50 +0000
                    Re: Regal eagle / American cloud "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2020-02-28 23:32 -0800
    Re: Regal eagle / American cloud woodbrian77@gmail.com - 2020-08-04 18:28 -0700

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#69516

FromReal Troll <Real.Troll@Trolls.com>
Date2019-11-02 16:59 -0400
Message-ID<qpkqr6$5bj$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#69513
On 02/11/2019 19:16, David Brown wrote:
>
> I have never seen anyone express any interest in your work -
>

Frankly this is completely ridiculous.  In C newsgroup, people are 
discussing about c compilers that most people aren't interested in yet 
that is allowed without any complaints.  There are 100s of C compilers 
and there is no point in creating yet another one but it is their 
prerogative to waste their own time and discuss it here on these newsgroup.

The OP should just continue posting his links (and show two fingers to 
whoever complaints about them) and if people don't like it then they can 
either stop visiting these newsgroups or simply kill-file someone whose 
postings they dislike or hate!!  My posts are kill-filed by almost 
everybody on this planet but who fuck cares about them.

I for one is not going to to anything like this and keep plodding and 
supporting whoever wants to post anything here including politics, sex, 
porn or whatever.  These newsgroups have never discussed anything useful 
for the past 10 years.

Now everybody go and fuck yourself.  Real Troll has spoken.


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#69517

FromMr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk>
Date2019-11-02 21:23 +0000
Message-ID<UsmvF.3695$XR5.1325@fx16.fr7>
In reply to#69516
On 02/11/2019 20:59, Real Troll wrote:
> On 02/11/2019 19:16, David Brown wrote:
>>
>> I have never seen anyone express any interest in your work -
>>
> 
> Frankly this is completely ridiculous.  In C newsgroup, people are 
> discussing about c compilers that most people aren't interested in yet 
> that is allowed without any complaints.  There are 100s of C compilers and 
> there is no point in creating yet another one but it is their prerogative 
> to waste their own time and discuss it here on these newsgroup.
> 
> The OP should just continue posting his links (and show two fingers to 
> whoever complaints about them) and if people don't like it then they can 
> either stop visiting these newsgroups or simply kill-file someone whose 
> postings they dislike or hate!!  My posts are kill-filed by almost 
> everybody on this planet but who fuck cares about them.
> 
> I for one is not going to to anything like this and keep plodding and 
> supporting whoever wants to post anything here including politics, sex, 
> porn or whatever.  These newsgroups have never discussed anything useful 
> for the past 10 years.
> 
> Now everybody go and fuck yourself.  Real Troll has spoken.

That's nice, dear.

/Flibble

-- 
"Snakes didn't evolve, instead talking snakes with legs changed into 
snakes." - Rick C. Hodgin

“You won’t burn in hell. But be nice anyway.” – Ricky Gervais

“I see Atheists are fighting and killing each other again, over who 
doesn’t believe in any God the most. Oh, no..wait.. that never happens.” – 
Ricky Gervais

"Suppose it's all true, and you walk up to the pearly gates, and are 
confronted by God," Bryne asked on his show The Meaning of Life. "What 
will Stephen Fry say to him, her, or it?"
"I'd say, bone cancer in children? What's that about?" Fry replied.
"How dare you? How dare you create a world to which there is such misery 
that is not our fault. It's not right, it's utterly, utterly evil."
"Why should I respect a capricious, mean-minded, stupid God who creates a 
world that is so full of injustice and pain. That's what I would say."

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#69521

Fromwoodbrian77@gmail.com
Date2019-11-02 17:49 -0700
Message-ID<24834083-3c67-483c-84fd-d952e7b3f7a9@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#69516
On Saturday, November 2, 2019 at 4:01:41 PM UTC-5, Real Troll wrote:
> 
> These newsgroups have never discussed anything useful 
> for the past 10 years.
> 

This group has been helpful to me for years now. Some may 
not like the way things are going, e.g. SaaS, but that's not 
my fault.  Honk if you love SaaS.


Brian

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#69520

Fromwoodbrian77@gmail.com
Date2019-11-02 17:14 -0700
Message-ID<85640c9c-c8f1-46c9-9962-560cc1886c08@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#69513
On Saturday, November 2, 2019 at 2:16:59 PM UTC-5, David Brown wrote:


I find most of your replies to be spam.


Brian
Ebenezer Enterprises

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#69522

FromMr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk>
Date2019-11-03 01:15 +0000
Message-ID<pSpvF.6207$ns7.5534@fx06.fr7>
In reply to#69520
On 03/11/2019 00:14, woodbrian77@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, November 2, 2019 at 2:16:59 PM UTC-5, David Brown wrote:
> 
> 
> I find most of your replies to be spam.

Oh the irony. Do as I say, not as I do eh Brian? Cockwomble.

/Flibble

-- 
"Snakes didn't evolve, instead talking snakes with legs changed into 
snakes." - Rick C. Hodgin

“You won’t burn in hell. But be nice anyway.” – Ricky Gervais

“I see Atheists are fighting and killing each other again, over who 
doesn’t believe in any God the most. Oh, no..wait.. that never happens.” – 
Ricky Gervais

"Suppose it's all true, and you walk up to the pearly gates, and are 
confronted by God," Bryne asked on his show The Meaning of Life. "What 
will Stephen Fry say to him, her, or it?"
"I'd say, bone cancer in children? What's that about?" Fry replied.
"How dare you? How dare you create a world to which there is such misery 
that is not our fault. It's not right, it's utterly, utterly evil."
"Why should I respect a capricious, mean-minded, stupid God who creates a 
world that is so full of injustice and pain. That's what I would say."

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#69523

Fromwoodbrian77@gmail.com
Date2019-11-02 19:01 -0700
Message-ID<6f6cbb21-a4bd-4be2-a27b-f64c48dd874a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#69522
On Saturday, November 2, 2019 at 8:15:15 PM UTC-5, Mr Flibble wrote:
> 
> Oh the irony. Do as I say, not as I do eh Brian?
> 

Sorry, but as Ben Shapiro says, "capitalism always wins."  
In order for communism to not die even more quickly than 
it otherwise would, you trolls actually need a quality 
basis for your pogroms.  Let's see, what quality 
products/companies have come from communism?  Oh, none?  


Brian
Ebenezer Enterprises - "They stab it with their steely knives, 
but they just can't kill the beast."
https://github.com/Ebenezer-group/onwards

"it" in this context is capitalism, free markets, free speech...

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#69524

FromMr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk>
Date2019-11-03 03:51 +0000
Message-ID<19svF.19998$AI7.4562@fx12.fr7>
In reply to#69523
On 03/11/2019 02:01, woodbrian77@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, November 2, 2019 at 8:15:15 PM UTC-5, Mr Flibble wrote:
>>
>> Oh the irony. Do as I say, not as I do eh Brian?
>>
> 
> Sorry, but as Ben Shapiro says, "capitalism always wins."
> In order for communism to not die even more quickly than
> it otherwise would, you trolls actually need a quality
> basis for your pogroms.  Let's see, what quality
> products/companies have come from communism?  Oh, none?

Who mentioned communism? Pathetic attempt at misdirection, Brian.

This "Ben Shapiro" guy is just as much of a religious bigot as you are, 
Brian, but of course you know this already which is why you keep spamming 
him here. Cockwomble.

/Flibble

-- 
"Snakes didn't evolve, instead talking snakes with legs changed into 
snakes." - Rick C. Hodgin

“You won’t burn in hell. But be nice anyway.” – Ricky Gervais

“I see Atheists are fighting and killing each other again, over who 
doesn’t believe in any God the most. Oh, no..wait.. that never happens.” – 
Ricky Gervais

"Suppose it's all true, and you walk up to the pearly gates, and are 
confronted by God," Bryne asked on his show The Meaning of Life. "What 
will Stephen Fry say to him, her, or it?"
"I'd say, bone cancer in children? What's that about?" Fry replied.
"How dare you? How dare you create a world to which there is such misery 
that is not our fault. It's not right, it's utterly, utterly evil."
"Why should I respect a capricious, mean-minded, stupid God who creates a 
world that is so full of injustice and pain. That's what I would say."

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#78718

FromBrian Wood <woodbrian77@gmail.com>
Date2021-03-09 20:24 -0800
Message-ID<d24573fd-d125-4fa9-816d-43ac4670f5a5n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#69524
On Saturday, November 2, 2019 at 10:51:40 PM UTC-5, Mr Flibble wrote:
> On 03/11/2019 02:01, woodb...@gmail.com wrote: 
> > On Saturday, November 2, 2019 at 8:15:15 PM UTC-5, Mr Flibble wrote: 
> >> 
> >> Oh the irony. Do as I say, not as I do eh Brian? 
> >> 
> > 
> > Sorry, but as Ben Shapiro says, "capitalism always wins." 
> > In order for communism to not die even more quickly than 
> > it otherwise would, you trolls actually need a quality 
> > basis for your pogroms. Let's see, what quality 
> > products/companies have come from communism? Oh, none?
> Who mentioned communism? Pathetic attempt at misdirection, Brian. 
> 
> This "Ben Shapiro" guy is just as much of a religious bigot as you are, 
> Brian, but of course you know this already which is why you keep spamming 
> him here. Cockwomble.
> /Flibble 
>

Today he said something like: Once the woke mob starts
coming for you, they don't stop.   That reminds me of this
quote that I've used here before:  "They stab it with their 
steely knives, but they just can't kill the beast."  

Yesterday he recommended people use duckduckgo.com.   
I've had a link to them on my website for years!

I would be remiss if I didn't ask for ideas on how to improve
my repo:  https://github.com/Ebenezer-group/onwards


Brian
Ebenezer Enterprises
https://webEbenezer.net

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#69529

FromDavid Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>
Date2019-11-03 11:35 +0100
Message-ID<qpmai0$921$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#69523
On 03/11/2019 03:01, woodbrian77@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, November 2, 2019 at 8:15:15 PM UTC-5, Mr Flibble wrote:
>>
>> Oh the irony. Do as I say, not as I do eh Brian?
>>
> 
> Sorry, but as Ben Shapiro says, "capitalism always wins."

For those that don't know who Shapiro is, but (for some reason) want to 
know, here is an introduction.

<https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Ben_Shapiro>

I love the description of him as a "professional idiot".

Now, people can have whatever view they like on politics - this is not a 
political group.  And it is not an American group, and most certainly 
not an American political group.

People don't get to have the same breadth of views on bigotry and 
prejudice.  But while I will condemn prejudice whenever I see it, it is 
also off-topic for the group.

What is more relevant is does this Shapiro guy have the slightest 
relevance to C++?  Is anything he says remotely connected to the 
language, or its use?  The answer, of course, is no.  Anything Shapiro 
says is of no more interest here than the wisdom of Kermit the Frog.

> In order for communism to not die even more quickly than
> it otherwise would, you trolls actually need a quality
> basis for your pogroms.  Let's see, what quality
> products/companies have come from communism?  Oh, none?

Again, politics has nothing to do with anything under discussion.

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#69535

Fromwoodbrian77@gmail.com
Date2019-11-03 20:04 -0800
Message-ID<6212b6ed-8d39-428b-8054-97388cb3be2b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#69529
On Sunday, November 3, 2019 at 4:35:56 AM UTC-6, David Brown wrote:
> On 03/11/2019 03:01, woodbrian77@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Saturday, November 2, 2019 at 8:15:15 PM UTC-5, Mr Flibble wrote:
> >>
> >> Oh the irony. Do as I say, not as I do eh Brian?
> >>
> > 
> > Sorry, but as Ben Shapiro says, "capitalism always wins."
> 
> For those that don't know who Shapiro is, but (for some reason) want to 
> know, here is an introduction.
> 
> <https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Ben_Shapiro>
> 

He is from Los Angeles, California.  He went to Harvard
Law School and practiced law for a short time, but then
became a journalist.  He's a very knowledgeable and down-
to-earth person.  He's an Orthodox Jew.  He's married 
and has three children - one of them hasn't been born yet.  
His podcasts are super.

I have this in a server:

#ifdef __linux__
#include<linux/sctp.h>
#else
#include<netinet/sctp.h>
#endif 

FreeBSD uses the else branch. I'm not sure what other platforms do. 
Any ideas on how to improve this?  My server is in pretty good shape
so this is a drag.


Brian
https://github.com/Ebenezer-group/onwards

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#69536

FromChristian Gollwitzer <auriocus@gmx.de>
Date2019-11-04 08:07 +0100
Message-ID<qpoinm$f03$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#69535
Am 04.11.19 um 05:04 schrieb woodbrian77@gmail.com:
> On Sunday, November 3, 2019 at 4:35:56 AM UTC-6, David Brown wrote:
>> On 03/11/2019 03:01, woodbrian77@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Saturday, November 2, 2019 at 8:15:15 PM UTC-5, Mr Flibble wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Oh the irony. Do as I say, not as I do eh Brian?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry, but as Ben Shapiro says, "capitalism always wins."
>>
>> For those that don't know who Shapiro is, but (for some reason) want to
>> know, here is an introduction.
>>
>> <https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Ben_Shapiro>
>>
> 
> He is from Los Angeles, California.  He went to Harvard
> Law School and practiced law for a short time, but then
> became a journalist.  He's a very knowledgeable and down-
> to-earth person.  He's an Orthodox Jew.  He's married
> and has three children - one of them hasn't been born yet.
> His podcasts are super.

That was an interesting read. Especially the first hits on Google where 
a Britisch conservative from the BBC interviews him with tough questions:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VixqvOcK8E

Funny when he said "You try to make quick buck at BBC off the fact that 
I'm popular and noone has ever heard of you!"

> I have this in a server:
> 
> #ifdef __linux__
> #include<linux/sctp.h>
> #else
> #include<netinet/sctp.h>
> #endif
> 
> FreeBSD uses the else branch. I'm not sure what other platforms do.
> Any ideas on how to improve this?  My server is in pretty good shape
> so this is a drag.

Use autoconf.
AC_CHECK_HEADERS(linux/sctp.h netinet/sctp.h)

	
	Christian

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#69537

FromDavid Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>
Date2019-11-04 09:08 +0100
Message-ID<qpom9a$d1$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#69535
On 04/11/2019 05:04, woodbrian77@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, November 3, 2019 at 4:35:56 AM UTC-6, David Brown wrote:
>> On 03/11/2019 03:01, woodbrian77@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Saturday, November 2, 2019 at 8:15:15 PM UTC-5, Mr Flibble wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Oh the irony. Do as I say, not as I do eh Brian?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry, but as Ben Shapiro says, "capitalism always wins."
>>
>> For those that don't know who Shapiro is, but (for some reason) want to 
>> know, here is an introduction.
>>
>> <https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Ben_Shapiro>
>>
> 
> He is from Los Angeles, California.  He went to Harvard
> Law School and practiced law for a short time, but then
> became a journalist.  He's a very knowledgeable and down-
> to-earth person.  He's an Orthodox Jew.  He's married 
> and has three children - one of them hasn't been born yet.  
> His podcasts are super.

I understand that you like him (he shares many of your prejudices).  You
seem to think his opinion is important for C++.  I can't imagine why.
So unless you can reference his development work or writings on C++,
let's leave him out of this.

> 
> I have this in a server:
> 
> #ifdef __linux__
> #include<linux/sctp.h>
> #else
> #include<netinet/sctp.h>
> #endif 
> 
> FreeBSD uses the else branch. I'm not sure what other platforms do. 

Every platform that is not Linux?

Or do you mean, "I'm not sure what other platforms /should/ use the
second include choice" ?  If so, then I can't help, I'm afraid.  But it
is a concrete, technical question - and if you ask it again in a new
thread (without any spam, or hero worshipping), then hopefully you'll
get technical answers.

> Any ideas on how to improve this?  My server is in pretty good shape
> so this is a drag.
> 

Are you running it on anything other than Linux and FreeBSD?  Is it
likely to be used anywhere else?  If not, then the code is fine.

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#69624

Fromwoodbrian77@gmail.com
Date2019-11-07 08:17 -0800
Message-ID<927ffeea-268b-49b2-912b-5afcce043723@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#69537
On Monday, November 4, 2019 at 2:08:22 AM UTC-6, David Brown wrote:
> On 04/11/2019 05:04, woodbrian77@gmail.com wrote:
> > 
> > I have this in a server:
> > 
> > #ifdef __linux__
> > #include<linux/sctp.h>
> > #else
> > #include<netinet/sctp.h>
> > #endif 
> > 
> > FreeBSD uses the else branch. I'm not sure what other platforms do. 
> 
> Every platform that is not Linux?
> 
> Or do you mean, "I'm not sure what other platforms /should/ use the
> second include choice" ?  If so, then I can't help, I'm afraid.  But it
> is a concrete, technical question - and if you ask it again in a new
> thread (without any spam, or hero worshipping), then hopefully you'll
> get technical answers.
> 
> > Any ideas on how to improve this?  My server is in pretty good shape
> > so this is a drag.
> > 
> 
> Are you running it on anything other than Linux and FreeBSD?  Is it
> likely to be used anywhere else?  If not, then the code is fine.

It should be portable to Posix systems.  The ifdef is a wart and
I'd like to have one line for that -- like I do for everything else.

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#69627

FromJorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se>
Date2019-11-07 16:52 +0000
Message-ID<slrnqs8ivb.cdo.grahn+nntp@frailea.sa.invalid>
In reply to#69624
On Thu, 2019-11-07, woodbrian77@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, November 4, 2019 at 2:08:22 AM UTC-6, David Brown wrote:
>> On 04/11/2019 05:04, woodbrian77@gmail.com wrote:
>> > 
>> > I have this in a server:
>> > 
>> > #ifdef __linux__
>> > #include<linux/sctp.h>
>> > #else
>> > #include<netinet/sctp.h>
>> > #endif 
>> > 
>> > FreeBSD uses the else branch. I'm not sure what other platforms do. 
>> 
>> Every platform that is not Linux?
>> 
>> Or do you mean, "I'm not sure what other platforms /should/ use the
>> second include choice" ?  If so, then I can't help, I'm afraid.  But it
>> is a concrete, technical question - and if you ask it again in a new
>> thread (without any spam, or hero worshipping), then hopefully you'll
>> get technical answers.
>> 
>> > Any ideas on how to improve this?  My server is in pretty good shape
>> > so this is a drag.
>> > 
>> 
>> Are you running it on anything other than Linux and FreeBSD?  Is it
>> likely to be used anywhere else?  If not, then the code is fine.
>
> It should be portable to Posix systems.  The ifdef is a wart and
> I'd like to have one line for that -- like I do for everything else.

Then it's a matter about how well standardised the BSD Sockets API
extension for the SCTP protocol is.  Should be possible to google from
that angle: e.g. what does POSIX, SUS, RFCs say?

I see RFC 6458 covers the API ... except it doesn't seem to mention
which header files should exist, which is a disappointment.

/Jorgen

-- 
  // Jorgen Grahn <grahn@  Oo  o.   .     .
\X/     snipabacken.se>   O  o   .

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#69638

Fromwoodbrian77@gmail.com
Date2019-11-07 10:54 -0800
Message-ID<261a97b0-622a-4e07-a2f8-9a7a99fa81a4@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#69627
On Thursday, November 7, 2019 at 10:53:14 AM UTC-6, Jorgen Grahn wrote:
> On Thu, 2019-11-07, woodbrian77@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Monday, November 4, 2019 at 2:08:22 AM UTC-6, David Brown wrote:
> >> On 04/11/2019 05:04, woodbrian77@gmail.com wrote:
> >> > 
> >> > I have this in a server:
> >> > 
> >> > #ifdef __linux__
> >> > #include<linux/sctp.h>
> >> > #else
> >> > #include<netinet/sctp.h>
> >> > #endif 
> >> > 
> >> > FreeBSD uses the else branch. I'm not sure what other platforms do. 
> >> 
> >> Every platform that is not Linux?
> >> 
> >> Or do you mean, "I'm not sure what other platforms /should/ use the
> >> second include choice" ?  If so, then I can't help, I'm afraid.  But it
> >> is a concrete, technical question - and if you ask it again in a new
> >> thread (without any spam, or hero worshipping), then hopefully you'll
> >> get technical answers.
> >> 
> >> > Any ideas on how to improve this?  My server is in pretty good shape
> >> > so this is a drag.
> >> > 
> >> 
> >> Are you running it on anything other than Linux and FreeBSD?  Is it
> >> likely to be used anywhere else?  If not, then the code is fine.
> >
> > It should be portable to Posix systems.  The ifdef is a wart and
> > I'd like to have one line for that -- like I do for everything else.
> 
> Then it's a matter about how well standardised the BSD Sockets API
> extension for the SCTP protocol is.  Should be possible to google from
> that angle: e.g. what does POSIX, SUS, RFCs say?
> 
> I see RFC 6458 covers the API ... except it doesn't seem to mention
> which header files should exist, which is a disappointment.
> 

Is there anything wrong with netinet/sctp.h?  If not, I suggest 
that as the home.

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#69642

FromJorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se>
Date2019-11-07 21:33 +0000
Message-ID<slrnqs93dr.cdo.grahn+nntp@frailea.sa.invalid>
In reply to#69638
On Thu, 2019-11-07, woodbrian77@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, November 7, 2019 at 10:53:14 AM UTC-6, Jorgen Grahn wrote:
>> On Thu, 2019-11-07, woodbrian77@gmail.com wrote:
>> > On Monday, November 4, 2019 at 2:08:22 AM UTC-6, David Brown wrote:
>> >> On 04/11/2019 05:04, woodbrian77@gmail.com wrote:
>> >> > 
>> >> > I have this in a server:
>> >> > 
>> >> > #ifdef __linux__
>> >> > #include<linux/sctp.h>
>> >> > #else
>> >> > #include<netinet/sctp.h>
>> >> > #endif 
>> >> > 
>> >> > FreeBSD uses the else branch. I'm not sure what other platforms do. 
>> >> 
>> >> Every platform that is not Linux?
>> >> 
>> >> Or do you mean, "I'm not sure what other platforms /should/ use the
>> >> second include choice" ?  If so, then I can't help, I'm afraid.  But it
>> >> is a concrete, technical question - and if you ask it again in a new
>> >> thread (without any spam, or hero worshipping), then hopefully you'll
>> >> get technical answers.
>> >> 
>> >> > Any ideas on how to improve this?  My server is in pretty good shape
>> >> > so this is a drag.
>> >> > 
>> >> 
>> >> Are you running it on anything other than Linux and FreeBSD?  Is it
>> >> likely to be used anywhere else?  If not, then the code is fine.
>> >
>> > It should be portable to Posix systems.  The ifdef is a wart and
>> > I'd like to have one line for that -- like I do for everything else.
>> 
>> Then it's a matter about how well standardised the BSD Sockets API
>> extension for the SCTP protocol is.  Should be possible to google from
>> that angle: e.g. what does POSIX, SUS, RFCs say?
>> 
>> I see RFC 6458 covers the API ... except it doesn't seem to mention
>> which header files should exist, which is a disappointment.
>> 
>
> Is there anything wrong with netinet/sctp.h?  If not, I suggest 
> that as the home.

It's analogous to netinet/tcp.h, udp.h and so on, so I guess that's
the right place.  And it's what the RFC uses in its examples (although
it doesn't say anything about that being normative).

/Jorgen

-- 
  // Jorgen Grahn <grahn@  Oo  o.   .     .
\X/     snipabacken.se>   O  o   .

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#69692

Fromwoodbrian77@gmail.com
Date2019-11-09 16:28 -0800
Message-ID<ed239a37-9c54-436a-b5c9-cf6a082d807b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#69642
On Thursday, November 7, 2019 at 3:34:00 PM UTC-6, Jorgen Grahn wrote:
> On Thu, 2019-11-07, woodbrian77@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, November 7, 2019 at 10:53:14 AM UTC-6, Jorgen Grahn wrote:
> >> On Thu, 2019-11-07, woodbrian77@gmail.com wrote:
> >> > On Monday, November 4, 2019 at 2:08:22 AM UTC-6, David Brown wrote:
> >> >> On 04/11/2019 05:04, woodbrian77@gmail.com wrote:
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > I have this in a server:
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > #ifdef __linux__
> >> >> > #include<linux/sctp.h>
> >> >> > #else
> >> >> > #include<netinet/sctp.h>
> >> >> > #endif 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > FreeBSD uses the else branch. I'm not sure what other platforms do. 
> >> >> 
> >> >> Every platform that is not Linux?
> >> >> 
> >> >> Or do you mean, "I'm not sure what other platforms /should/ use the
> >> >> second include choice" ?  If so, then I can't help, I'm afraid.  But it
> >> >> is a concrete, technical question - and if you ask it again in a new
> >> >> thread (without any spam, or hero worshipping), then hopefully you'll
> >> >> get technical answers.
> >> >> 
> >> >> > Any ideas on how to improve this?  My server is in pretty good shape
> >> >> > so this is a drag.
> >> >> > 
> >> >> 
> >> >> Are you running it on anything other than Linux and FreeBSD?  Is it
> >> >> likely to be used anywhere else?  If not, then the code is fine.
> >> >
> >> > It should be portable to Posix systems.  The ifdef is a wart and
> >> > I'd like to have one line for that -- like I do for everything else.
> >> 
> >> Then it's a matter about how well standardised the BSD Sockets API
> >> extension for the SCTP protocol is.  Should be possible to google from
> >> that angle: e.g. what does POSIX, SUS, RFCs say?
> >> 
> >> I see RFC 6458 covers the API ... except it doesn't seem to mention
> >> which header files should exist, which is a disappointment.
> >> 
> >
> > Is there anything wrong with netinet/sctp.h?  If not, I suggest 
> > that as the home.
> 
> It's analogous to netinet/tcp.h, udp.h and so on, so I guess that's
> the right place.  And it's what the RFC uses in its examples (although
> it doesn't say anything about that being normative).
> 

I wonder what steps to take to get something done.  I'd like
to think that it wouldn't take years.


Brian

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#69713

Fromwoodbrian77@gmail.com
Date2019-11-11 22:33 -0800
Message-ID<8e71b531-5851-479a-a3d0-8a421e6a7d1e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#69692
I installed gcc10 on a FreeBSD 12.1 machine.  That machine also has 
gcc9.2 on it.  When I try to use g++10, I get an error that 
it cannot execute 'cc1plus' execvp: No such file or directory

.  I found a cc1plus file under a gcc9 directory, but that's
the only version I found under /usr/local.  I want to use span
so am trying to get g++10.  The only idea I have is to do something
like
pkg remove gcc9

but kind of doubt that would help.
I have a version of clang on the machine that I can use, but just
thought I'd see if I could get gcc10 to work.  Any ideas?  Thanks.

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#69721

Fromwoodbrian77@gmail.com
Date2019-11-12 08:26 -0800
Message-ID<c1c97beb-d3c0-4875-b15c-37a875dfe3a7@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#69713
On Tuesday, November 12, 2019 at 12:33:56 AM UTC-6, woodb...@gmail.com wrote:
> I installed gcc10 on a FreeBSD 12.1 machine.  That machine also has 
> gcc9.2 on it.  When I try to use g++10, I get an error that 
> it cannot execute 'cc1plus' execvp: No such file or directory
> 
> .  I found a cc1plus file under a gcc9 directory, but that's
> the only version I found under /usr/local.  I want to use span
> so am trying to get g++10.  The only idea I have is to do something
> like
> pkg remove gcc9
> 
> but kind of doubt that would help.
> I have a version of clang on the machine that I can use, but just
> thought I'd see if I could get gcc10 to work.  Any ideas?  Thanks.

I got it working by using the span header from gcc10 with gcc9.

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#69726

FromKeith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org>
Date2019-11-12 15:54 -0800
Message-ID<lnftis3b1w.fsf@kst-u.example.com>
In reply to#69713
woodbrian77@gmail.com writes:
> I installed gcc10 on a FreeBSD 12.1 machine.  That machine also has 
> gcc9.2 on it.  When I try to use g++10, I get an error that 
> it cannot execute 'cc1plus' execvp: No such file or directory

How did you install gcc10?

I'm not very familiar with FreeBSD, but on some systems "gcc" and "g++"
are separate packages.  cc1plus is the C++ frontend, invoked by the g++
command.  It's typically installed under a "libexec" directory, so g++
can find it but it's not in your $PATH.  If you installed gcc-10 with
support for C but not for C++, that could explain what you saw -- except
that the "g++10" command itself probably shouldn't have been visible.

This might be a better question for a Unix or FreeBSD forum.

[...]

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org  <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Working, but not speaking, for Philips Healthcare
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