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  class diagram Philipp Kraus <philipp.kraus@flashpixx.de> - 2011-09-17 15:28 +0200
    Re: class diagram Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2011-09-17 13:52 +0000
      Re: class diagram Philipp Kraus <philipp.kraus@flashpixx.de> - 2011-09-17 16:03 +0200
        Re: class diagram red floyd <no.spam.here@its.invalid> - 2011-09-17 13:58 -0700
          Re: class diagram Philipp Kraus <philipp.kraus@flashpixx.de> - 2011-09-20 23:00 +0200
        Re: class diagram Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2011-09-17 23:25 +0000
          Re: class diagram Philipp Kraus <philipp.kraus@flashpixx.de> - 2011-09-20 21:54 +0200

#10220 — class diagram

Hello,

I have written a framework that is a head-only structure and using 
templates. For documentation I would like to create a class diagram 
which shows all cardinalities and derivations.
I'm using XCode and it can build a diagram but only from instanciated 
classes. XCode build the diagram if I set myclass<int> but not with 
tempate<typename T> class {}
So I can create the whole diagram only if I write an example program 
which creates objects of each class.

Do you know a good documentation tool to create class diagrams with the 
template structures?

Thanks

Phil

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#10221

On Sat, 2011-09-17, Philipp Kraus wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have written a framework that is a head-only structure and using

"Head-only"?

> templates. For documentation I would like to create a class diagram 
> which shows all cardinalities and derivations.
> I'm using XCode and it can build a diagram but only from instanciated 
> classes. XCode build the diagram if I set myclass<int> but not with 
> tempate<typename T> class {}
> So I can create the whole diagram only if I write an example program 
> which creates objects of each class.
>
> Do you know a good documentation tool to create class diagrams with the 
> template structures?

I'd use paper and pencil, to quickly get a picture which focuses on
the important parts. I find drawing tools too slow and tedious. And
automatic tools like Doxygen can't know which parts are important
and which are not (assuming Doxygen works at all with templates).

Or perhaps you should write that example program.

/Jorgen

-- 
  // Jorgen Grahn <grahn@  Oo  o.   .     .
\X/     snipabacken.se>   O  o   .

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#10223

On 2011-09-17 15:52:31 +0200, Jorgen Grahn said:

> On Sat, 2011-09-17, Philipp Kraus wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I have written a framework that is a head-only structure and using
> 
> "Head-only"?

sorry typo error: header-only

> 
>> templates. For documentation I would like to create a class diagram
>> which shows all cardinalities and derivations.
>> I'm using XCode and it can build a diagram but only from instanciated
>> classes. XCode build the diagram if I set myclass<int> but not with
>> tempate<typename T> class {}
>> So I can create the whole diagram only if I write an example program
>> which creates objects of each class.
>> 
>> Do you know a good documentation tool to create class diagrams with the
>> template structures?
> 
> I'd use paper and pencil, to quickly get a picture which focuses on
> the important parts. I find drawing tools too slow and tedious. And
> automatic tools like Doxygen can't know which parts are important
> and which are not (assuming Doxygen works at all with templates).

Yes, I use at this time doxygen, but doxygen can support graphvis for 
drawing, but I don't test it.

I would like to create a diagram like 
http://img.skitch.com/20091122-j6q7axd8up53qb1m1xdaxswrai.png

> Or perhaps you should write that example program.

*g* a lot of work....

Thanks

Phil

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#10234

On 9/17/2011 7:03 AM, Philipp Kraus wrote:
> On 2011-09-17 15:52:31 +0200, Jorgen Grahn said:

> Yes, I use at this time doxygen, but doxygen can support graphvis for
> drawing, but I don't test it.
>

Doxygen with GraphVis works very nicely.  I've used it.

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#10350

On 2011-09-17 22:58:42 +0200, red floyd said:

> On 9/17/2011 7:03 AM, Philipp Kraus wrote:
>> On 2011-09-17 15:52:31 +0200, Jorgen Grahn said:
> 
>> Yes, I use at this time doxygen, but doxygen can support graphvis for
>> drawing, but I don't test it.
>> 
> 
> Doxygen with GraphVis works very nicely.  I've used it.

I've found MetaUML (http://metauml.sourceforge.net/old/index.html) too, 
that create nice diagrams with TeX.
Now I need a tool, which convert my classes into MetaUML code

PHil

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#10236

On Sat, 2011-09-17, Philipp Kraus wrote:
> On 2011-09-17 15:52:31 +0200, Jorgen Grahn said:
>
>> On Sat, 2011-09-17, Philipp Kraus wrote:
...
>>> So I can create the whole diagram only if I write an example program
>>> which creates objects of each class.
>>> 
>>> Do you know a good documentation tool to create class diagrams with the
>>> template structures?
>> 
>> I'd use paper and pencil, to quickly get a picture which focuses on
>> the important parts. I find drawing tools too slow and tedious. And
>> automatic tools like Doxygen can't know which parts are important
>> and which are not (assuming Doxygen works at all with templates).
>
> Yes, I use at this time doxygen, but doxygen can support graphvis for 
> drawing, but I don't test it.

I've used it, and I still recommend paper and pencil.

> I would like to create a diagram like 
> http://img.skitch.com/20091122-j6q7axd8up53qb1m1xdaxswrai.png
>
>> Or perhaps you should write that example program.
>
> *g* a lot of work....

How can you write a template framework without writing any example
programs? You can't test it unless you instantiate those templates.

/Jorgen

-- 
  // Jorgen Grahn <grahn@  Oo  o.   .     .
\X/     snipabacken.se>   O  o   .

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#10349

On 2011-09-18 01:25:35 +0200, Jorgen Grahn said:

> On Sat, 2011-09-17, Philipp Kraus wrote:
>> On 2011-09-17 15:52:31 +0200, Jorgen Grahn said:
>> 
>>> On Sat, 2011-09-17, Philipp Kraus wrote:
> ...
>>>> So I can create the whole diagram only if I write an example program
>>>> which creates objects of each class.
>>>> 
>>>> Do you know a good documentation tool to create class diagrams with the
>>>> template structures?
>>> 
>>> I'd use paper and pencil, to quickly get a picture which focuses on
>>> the important parts. I find drawing tools too slow and tedious. And
>>> automatic tools like Doxygen can't know which parts are important
>>> and which are not (assuming Doxygen works at all with templates).
>> 
>> Yes, I use at this time doxygen, but doxygen can support graphvis for
>> drawing, but I don't test it.
> 
> I've used it, and I still recommend paper and pencil.
> 
>> I would like to create a diagram like
>> http://img.skitch.com/20091122-j6q7axd8up53qb1m1xdaxswrai.png
>> 
>>> Or perhaps you should write that example program.
>> 
>> *g* a lot of work....
> 
> How can you write a template framework without writing any example
> programs? You can't test it unless you instantiate those templates.

My examples are not under the framework path, so I would like to create 
only the documentation without the examples.
I would like to use a "reverse engenieering tool", which reads the 
files under the framework and can create the diagram(s).
I've tested www.visual-paradigm.com it's a nice tool, but I wouldn't by 
a licence at this time (reverse engeniering needs a licence).

Phil

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