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  My C++ Coding Standards ( apologies to Bjarne Stroustrup ). Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2016-12-23 17:06 -0800
    Re: My C++ Coding Standards ( apologies to Bjarne Stroustrup ). Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2016-12-24 11:00 +0200
      Re: while() and "Loop(3) { _Loop(4)..." aren't "impenetrable". Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2016-12-26 23:17 +0200
        Re: Refactoring is good, God's speed. Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2016-12-27 01:17 +0200
          Re: Refactoring is good, God's speed. "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-12-26 15:26 -0800
          Re: PHP could use #define, seriously. Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2016-12-27 10:01 +0200
          Re: Refactoring is good, God's speed. legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) - 2016-12-28 18:10 +0000
            Re: Refactoring is good, God's speed. woodbrian77@gmail.com - 2016-12-28 10:20 -0800
        Re: Refactoring is good, God's speed. interval1066@gmail.com - 2016-12-30 10:43 -0800
          Re: Refactoring is good, God's speed. legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) - 2017-01-02 00:44 +0000
            #define came from God himself, it's sacred. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2017-01-01 23:51 -0800
              #define came from God himself, it's sacred. Jeff-Relf.Me <@..yep> - 2017-01-02 08:00 +0000
                Re: #define came from God himself, it's sacred. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-03 03:58 +0000
                  I completely reWrote it, of course. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2017-01-03 00:46 -0800
                    I completely reWrote it, of course. Jeff-Relf.Me <@..sour> - 2017-01-03 08:51 +0000
                    Re: I completely reWrote it, of course. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2017-01-03 12:13 +0100
                      Re: I completely reWrote it, of course. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2017-01-03 12:28 +0100
                      Re: I completely reWrote it, of course. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-03 07:32 -0600
                        Ezekiel lives in your head RENT FREE!!  LOL!!! GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2017-01-03 12:16 -0700
                        With "warnings as errors", turn off these warnings. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2017-01-03 13:00 -0800
                      Re: I completely reWrote it, of course. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2017-01-03 12:16 -0700
                        Re: I completely reWrote it, of course. red floyd <dont.bother@its.invalid> - 2017-01-03 12:30 -0800
                          If you're retarded then, yes, _Loop() is "undefined". Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2017-01-16 11:06 -0800
                        Re: I completely reWrote it, of course. scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2017-01-04 13:33 +0000
                          Re: I completely reWrote it, of course. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-04 07:45 -0600
                            Re: I completely reWrote it, of course. scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2017-01-04 14:54 +0000
                              The Longest Common Sequence ( NonContiguous ) algorithm ( recursive ). Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2017-01-04 10:17 -0800
                                Re: The Longest Common Sequence ( NonContiguous ) algorithm ( recursive ). Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2017-01-04 19:19 +0100
                                Re: The Longest Common Sequence ( NonContiguous ) algorithm ( recursive ). moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-05 03:34 +0000
                                  The Longest Common Sequence ( NonContiguous ) algorithm ( recursive ). Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2017-01-04 22:26 -0800
                                    Re: The Longest Common Sequence ( NonContiguous ) algorithm ( recursive ). Anonymous <anonymous@invalid.tld> - 2017-01-05 08:18 +0000
                                      Re: The Longest Common Sequence ( NonContiguous ) algorithm ( recursive ). Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2017-01-05 09:24 +0100
                                      PostScript is my thing. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2017-01-05 01:08 -0800
                                    My diffs now _perfectly match MicroSoft's WinMerge. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2017-01-07 03:56 -0800
                                      Re: My diffs now _perfectly match MicroSoft's WinMerge. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2017-01-07 13:09 +0100
                                      Re: My diffs now _perfectly match MicroSoft's WinMerge. jonkalb <google@kalbweb.com> - 2017-01-07 08:32 -0800
                                      Re: My diffs now _perfectly match MicroSoft's WinMerge. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-07 20:25 +0000
                                        Like a compiler that compiles itself, my Diff app diffs itself. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2017-01-07 17:53 -0800
                                        Re: My diffs now _perfectly match MicroSoft's WinMerge. Christian Gollwitzer <auriocus@gmx.de> - 2017-01-10 22:15 +0100
                                          Text file comparison is essential. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2017-01-16 11:23 -0800
                                            Nothing to compare, left and right, old and new. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2017-01-19 04:12 -0800
                                Re: The Longest Common Sequence ( NonContiguous ) algorithm ( recursive ). jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2017-01-05 14:08 +0000
                                Re: The Longest Common Sequence ( NonContiguous ) algorithm ( recursive ). Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2017-01-05 21:09 +0000
                                  Re: The Longest Common Sequence ( NonContiguous ) algorithm ( recursive ). legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) - 2017-01-05 21:19 +0000
                                    "Functional" programming is "Tree Crawling". Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2017-01-05 14:53 -0800
                                Re: The Longest Common Sequence ( NonContiguous ) algorithm ( recursive ). Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 17:43 -0600
                                  Re: The Longest Common Sequence ( NonContiguous ) algorithm ( recursive ). woodbrian77@gmail.com - 2017-01-10 12:02 -0800
                                    Re: The Longest Common Sequence ( NonContiguous ) algorithm ( recursive ). Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 20:13 +0000
                                    Re: The Longest Common Sequence ( NonContiguous ) algorithm ( recursive ). scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2017-01-10 20:34 +0000
                                    Re: The Longest Common Sequence ( NonContiguous ) algorithm ( recursive ). Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2017-01-10 21:21 +0000
                                      Re: The Longest Common Sequence ( NonContiguous ) algorithm ( recursive ). David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-01-10 22:48 +0100
                                        Re: The Longest Common Sequence ( NonContiguous ) algorithm ( recursive ). Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2017-01-12 21:40 +0000
                                    Re: The Longest Common Sequence ( NonContiguous ) algorithm ( recursive ). red floyd <dont.bother@its.invalid> - 2017-01-10 13:46 -0800
                                    Re: The Longest Common Sequence ( NonContiguous ) algorithm ( recursive ). Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-11 17:41 +1300
                              Re: I completely reWrote it, of course. jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2017-01-05 14:08 +0000
                        What about you, GreyCloud ? Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2017-01-16 11:02 -0800
                          Re: What about you, GreyCloud ? GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2017-01-16 19:46 -0700
                            Health issues ? Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2017-01-16 20:39 -0800
                              Re: Health issues ? GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2017-01-17 11:50 -0700
                                Negative Interest Rates. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2017-01-19 04:25 -0800
                                  Re: Negative Interest Rates. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2017-01-19 11:47 -0700
                                    Negative Interest Rates "rips off" rich people, not the poor. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2017-01-19 19:23 -0800
                                      Re: Negative Interest Rates "rips off" rich people, not the poor. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2017-01-20 16:17 -0700
                          Tons of people have reviewed the code, source and object. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2017-01-19 04:02 -0800
                          Building a complex system can't be done when you're drunk and horny. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2017-01-19 04:17 -0800
                            Re: Building a complex system can't be done when you're drunk and horny. David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-01-19 13:59 +0100
                              No one is here to learn at your feet, sorry. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2017-01-19 05:30 -0800
                              Re: Building a complex system can't be done when you're drunk and horny. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-19 07:37 -0600
                                Building a complex system can't be done when you're drunk and horny. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2017-01-19 05:43 -0800
                              Re: Building a complex system can't be done when you're drunk and horny. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-20 04:32 +0000
                                Usenet isn't WikiPedia; here, it's all play and no work, anything goes. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2017-01-19 21:02 -0800
                    The "Least Longest" diffs. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2017-01-03 03:04 -0800
                  Re: #define came from God himself, it's sacred. Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2017-01-03 21:27 +0000
        Re: LoopP( !isDigit( Ch ) ); jonkalb <google@kalbweb.com> - 2017-01-16 22:05 -0800
          Re: LoopP( !isDigit( Ch ) ); woodbrian77@gmail.com - 2017-01-17 11:17 -0800
            Re: LoopP( !isDigit( Ch ) ); David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-01-17 22:20 +0100
          Re: LoopP( !isDigit( Ch ) ); Cholo Lennon <chololennon@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-17 18:18 -0300
            Re: LoopP( !isDigit( Ch ) ); Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2017-01-17 21:51 +0000
      Re: while() and "Loop(3) { _Loop(4)..." aren't "impenetrable". Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2016-12-26 13:24 -0800
        Re: "Standards" are like assholes, everyone's got one. Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2016-12-26 14:27 -0800
          Re: _Underscores have never been -- and could never be -- a problem. Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2016-12-27 13:25 +0200
            Re: Compiling C++ is trivial, always. Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2016-12-27 21:38 +0200
              Re: Compiling C++ is trivial, always. Mr Flibble <flibble@i42.co.uk> - 2016-12-27 20:01 +0000
                Re: Compiling C++ is trivial, always. Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2016-12-27 22:20 +0200
              Re: How big are your .CPP files ( in MegaBytes, not lines ) ? Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2016-12-28 00:02 +0200
                Re: You could condense it down into fewer, larger, .CPP files. Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-28 14:11 +1300
                  Re: What are you compiling, and how long does it take ? ! Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-28 15:34 +1300
                    Re: Are you Linus Torvalds ? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-28 16:14 +1300
                      Re: The _Default "Subject:" line is neither mandatory or desirable. Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-28 17:35 +1300
                        Re: Would a hardware/software upgrade help ? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-29 08:09 +1300
                        Re: The _Default "Subject:" line is neither mandatory or desirable. legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) - 2016-12-28 20:01 +0000
            Re: I don't create .h files, not a one. Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk> - 2017-01-16 19:03 +0000
          Re: _Underscores have never been -- and could never be -- a problem. Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2016-12-27 05:58 -0800
            Re: _Loop() works fine; I don't use "concurrent_vector.h". Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2016-12-27 22:14 +0000
            Re: _Loop() works fine; I don't use "concurrent_vector.h". Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2016-12-28 02:08 -0800
              Re: _Loop() works fine; I don't use "concurrent_vector.h". woodbrian77@gmail.com - 2016-12-28 09:45 -0800
        Re: "Standards" are like assholes, everyone's got one. Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-27 12:34 +1300
    Re: My C++ Coding Standards ( apologies to Bjarne Stroustrup ). Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-12-24 10:40 +0100
      Re: My C++ Coding Standards ( apologies to Bjarne Stroustrup ). woodbrian77@gmail.com - 2016-12-26 17:41 -0800
        Re: My C++ Coding Standards ( apologies to Bjarne Stroustrup ). Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-27 15:28 +1300
    Re: My C++ Coding Standards ( apologies to Bjarne Stroustrup ). jonkalb <google@kalbweb.com> - 2016-12-26 23:24 -0800
      Re: My C++ Coding Standards ( apologies to Bjarne Stroustrup ). woodbrian77@gmail.com - 2016-12-27 10:54 -0800
        Re: My C++ Coding Standards ( apologies to Bjarne Stroustrup ). Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-28 11:26 +1300
          Re: My C++ Coding Standards ( apologies to Bjarne Stroustrup ). woodbrian77@gmail.com - 2016-12-27 20:36 -0800
            Re: My C++ Coding Standards ( apologies to Bjarne Stroustrup ). Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-28 17:42 +1300
              Re: My C++ Coding Standards ( apologies to Bjarne Stroustrup ). woodbrian77@gmail.com - 2016-12-27 21:24 -0800
                Re: My C++ Coding Standards ( apologies to Bjarne Stroustrup ). woodbrian77@gmail.com - 2016-12-27 22:16 -0800
                Re: My C++ Coding Standards ( apologies to Bjarne Stroustrup ). woodbrian77@gmail.com - 2016-12-28 13:29 -0800
                  Re: My C++ Coding Standards ( apologies to Bjarne Stroustrup ). Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-29 10:46 +1300
                Re: My C++ Coding Standards ( apologies to Bjarne Stroustrup ). Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-30 09:55 +1300
                  Re: My C++ Coding Standards ( apologies to Bjarne Stroustrup ). woodbrian77@gmail.com - 2016-12-29 14:19 -0800
                    Re: My C++ Coding Standards ( apologies to Bjarne Stroustrup ). Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-30 11:25 +1300
                      Re: My C++ Coding Standards ( apologies to Bjarne Stroustrup ). woodbrian77@gmail.com - 2016-12-29 21:59 -0800
                        Re: My C++ Coding Standards ( apologies to Bjarne Stroustrup ). Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-30 21:27 +1300
                          Re: My C++ Coding Standards ( apologies to Bjarne Stroustrup ). woodbrian77@gmail.com - 2016-12-30 09:51 -0800
                            Re: My C++ Coding Standards ( apologies to Bjarne Stroustrup ). Wouter van Ooijen <wouter@voti.nl> - 2016-12-30 19:46 +0100
                    Re: My C++ Coding Standards ( apologies to Bjarne Stroustrup ). David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-12-30 10:07 +0100
                    Re: My C++ Coding Standards ( apologies to Bjarne Stroustrup ). asetofsymbols@gmail.com - 2016-12-30 02:49 -0800
                      Re: My C++ Coding Standards ( apologies to Bjarne Stroustrup ). asetofsymbols@gmail.com - 2016-12-30 03:17 -0800
                Re: My C++ Coding Standards ( apologies to Bjarne Stroustrup ). Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-29 10:08 +1300
                Re: My C++ Coding Standards ( apologies to Bjarne Stroustrup ). woodbrian77@gmail.com - 2016-12-28 12:41 -0800
                  Re: My C++ Coding Standards ( apologies to Bjarne Stroustrup ). Chris Vine <chris@cvine--nospam--.freeserve.co.uk> - 2016-12-28 21:59 +0000
                    Re: My C++ Coding Standards ( apologies to Bjarne Stroustrup ). Dombo <dombo@disposable.invalid> - 2016-12-29 14:34 +0100
                      Re: My C++ Coding Standards ( apologies to Bjarne Stroustrup ). woodbrian77@gmail.com - 2016-12-29 10:27 -0800
                        Re: My C++ Coding Standards ( apologies to Bjarne Stroustrup ). Dombo <dombo@disposable.invalid> - 2016-12-29 20:33 +0100
                    Re: My C++ Coding Standards ( apologies to Bjarne Stroustrup ). woodbrian77@gmail.com - 2016-12-28 15:14 -0800
                      Re: My C++ Coding Standards ( apologies to Bjarne Stroustrup ). Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-29 13:05 +1300
                Re: My C++ Coding Standards ( apologies to Bjarne Stroustrup ). Chris Vine <chris@cvine--nospam--.freeserve.co.uk> - 2016-12-28 19:36 +0000

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#47637

On Friday, December 23, 2016 at 5:06:58 PM UTC-8, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> My C++ Coding Standards ( apologies to Bjarne Stroustrup ):

I think you need to apologize to more than Bjarne. You should apologize to WG21 and to the entire C++ coding community.

When I first saw your coding guidelines I honestly thought you had your tongue in your cheek and were writing one of those lists where instead of giving good advice you deliberately give bad advice to dramatize common mistakes and show people what to avoid.

It is only after reading your responses to the comments here that I realized that you were sincere in your recommendations.

Jeff, I'm really happy that writing code this way has put food on your table since 1981. My guess is that, since you happen to be exactly my age, it is too late for you to learn "new tricks" so you'll almost certainly just run out the clock on your career writing code like this.

But I beg of you, two things. One is that you never ask me to review or any way work with any code you've ever written and the second is that you never share your coding standards or other coding advise with anyone else in the C++ community. Ever.

Thanks ever so much.

Jon

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#47653

On Tuesday, December 27, 2016 at 1:24:12 AM UTC-6, jonkalb wrote:
> On Friday, December 23, 2016 at 5:06:58 PM UTC-8, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> > My C++ Coding Standards ( apologies to Bjarne Stroustrup ):
> 
> I think you need to apologize to more than Bjarne. You should apologize to WG21 and to the entire C++ coding community.
> 
> When I first saw your coding guidelines I honestly thought you had your tongue in your cheek and were writing one of those lists where instead of giving good advice you deliberately give bad advice to dramatize common mistakes and show people what to avoid.
> 
> It is only after reading your responses to the comments here that I realized that you were sincere in your recommendations.
> 
> Jeff, I'm really happy that writing code this way has put food on your table since 1981. My guess is that, since you happen to be exactly my age, it is too late for you to learn "new tricks" so you'll almost certainly just run out the clock on your career writing code like this.
> 

I don't think that's too old to learn new tricks.  

> But I beg of you, two things. One is that you never ask me to review or any way work with any code you've ever written and the second is that you never share your coding standards or other coding advise with anyone else in the C++ community. Ever.
> 

I tend to agree with what he wrote about using fewer/bigger 
functions.  I used to have more functions in this program:

https://github.com/woodbrian/onwards/blob/master/cmwAmbassador.cc

The size of the text segment was reduced by getting rid of
some of the functions.  That was the case with a number of
popular compilers.  And the number of lines of code was also
reduced.  So I went with it as both of those are important
to me.

He also wrote about global functions.  It seems to me there's
been a move toward free functions over the past decade or so
that may be similar to what he means.  Free functions aren't
necessarily global, but they are closer to global than member
functions in my opinion.

I considered his "Loop" macros and searched through my code
for places where I could use something like that.  I only 
found a handful of places.  I don't plan on using that.


Brian
Ebenezer Enterprises - I'm glad to hear that Israel is curbing
relations with Senegal, New Zealand, Britain, France, Russia, 
China, Japan, Ukraine, Angola, Egypt, Uruguay and Spain due to 
their anti-semitism.  I've been reducing what I buy from China 
and will continue to buy American and Taiwanese products instead.

http://webEbenezer.net

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#47666

On 12/28/16 07:54 AM, woodbrian77@gmail.com wrote:

> Ebenezer Enterprises - I'm glad to hear that Israel is curbing
> relations with Senegal, New Zealand, Britain, France, Russia,
> China, Japan, Ukraine, Angola, Egypt, Uruguay and Spain due to
> their anti-semitism.

Fuckwit.

-- 
Ian

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#47675

On Tuesday, December 27, 2016 at 4:26:43 PM UTC-6, Ian Collins wrote:

This poor man cried, and the L-RD heard him and saved him 
out of all his troubles.  Psalms 34:6

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#47677

On 12/28/16 05:36 PM, woodbrian77@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 27, 2016 at 4:26:43 PM UTC-6, Ian Collins wrote:
>> fuckwit

> This poor man cried, and the L-RD heard him and saved him
> out of all his troubles.  Psalms 34:6

So you respond to a fair summary of your nasty, unjustified insult with 
more bollocks?

Anyway, you haven't declared L or RD, so L-RD is a syntax error.

-- 
Ian

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#47680

On Tuesday, December 27, 2016 at 10:42:57 PM UTC-6, Ian Collins wrote:
> On 12/28/16 05:36 PM, woodbrian77@gmail.com wrote:

You are trying to add your swearing back?  Wow.
I'm sorry, but things have changed now and changed for the 
better.  



Brian
Ebenezer Enterprises - In G-d we trust.
http://webEbenezer.net

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#47681

On Tuesday, December 27, 2016 at 11:24:47 PM UTC-6, woodb...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> You are trying to add your swearing back?  Wow.
> I'm sorry, but things have changed now and changed for the 
> better.  


It might be more accurate to say that things are changing
and changing for the better... and I'm sorry that the places 
where things are changing for the better aren't more numerous.
Syrians deserved better ...

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#47700

On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 3:09:02 PM UTC-6, Ian Collins wrote:
> On 12/29/16 09:41 AM, woodbrian77@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 1:36:59 PM UTC-6, Chris Vine wrote:
> >>
> >> Brian,
> >>
> >> You are a nasty piece of work who thinks it is OK to slag off anyone
> >> or any countries that you happen to come across.
> >
> > I was criticizing "leaders" like Putin.
> 
> No you weren't, you were directing nasty baseless insults at a dozen 
> countries.
> 

The baseless hatred is toward Israel.

"Barack Obama has done his best for nearly eight years 
to undermine the state of Israel."

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/443371/obama-anti-israel-jewish-jerusalem-judeo-christian-western-civilization


Brian
Ebenezer Enterprises - "The nations rage, the kingdoms totter;
    He utters his voice, the earth melts."  Psalms 46:6

http://webEbenezer.net

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#47708

On 12/29/16 10:29 AM, woodbrian77@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 3:09:02 PM UTC-6, Ian Collins wrote:
>> On 12/29/16 09:41 AM, woodbrian77@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 1:36:59 PM UTC-6, Chris Vine wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Brian,
>>>>
>>>> You are a nasty piece of work who thinks it is OK to slag off anyone
>>>> or any countries that you happen to come across.
>>>
>>> I was criticizing "leaders" like Putin.
>>
>> No you weren't, you were directing nasty baseless insults at a dozen
>> countries.
>>
>
> The baseless hatred is toward Israel.

Objecting to the Israeli governments illegal actions is not antisemitic. 
  Get your facts straight before you start lobbing insults around.

-- 
Ian

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#47702

On 12/30/16 07:27 AM, woodbrian77@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 7:32:00 AM UTC-6, Dombo wrote:
>
> And he said: "Truly I tell you, unless you change and become
> like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.
> Matthew 18:3

Do little children insult whole countries?

> Please don't swear here.

Hypocrite.

-- 
Ian

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#47717

On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 2:55:57 PM UTC-6, Ian Collins wrote:
> On 12/30/16 07:27 AM, woodbrian77@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 7:32:00 AM UTC-6, Dombo wrote:
> >
> > And he said: "Truly I tell you, unless you change and become
> > like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.
> > Matthew 18:3
> 
> Do little children insult whole countries?

I agree with Ben Shapiro when he describes himself
as a "radical individualist".  I'm for people,
but against the baseless hatred in some "leaders" 
-- Putin, Obama ...

Some would like to set a trap for Israel with this
UN (United Nothing) vote.  The funny thing is that
these "leaders" will have the trap they intended for 
Israel recoil on themselves.  I'll be buying products 
from Taiwan and South Korea, rather than China or Japan.


Brian
Ebenezer Enterprises - "They prepared a net for my steps; 
My soul is bowed down; They dug a pit before me; they 
themselves have fallen into the midst of it. Selah."  Psalms 57:6

http://webEbenezer.net

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#47720

On 12/30/16 11:19 AM, woodbrian77@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 2:55:57 PM UTC-6, Ian Collins wrote:
>> On 12/30/16 07:27 AM, woodbrian77@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 7:32:00 AM UTC-6, Dombo wrote:
>>>
>>> And he said: "Truly I tell you, unless you change and become
>>> like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.
>>> Matthew 18:3
>>
>> Do little children insult whole countries?
>
> I agree with Ben Shapiro when he describes himself
> as a "radical individualist".  I'm for people,
> but against the baseless hatred in some "leaders"

So how much do you know about the people and leaders of New Zealand? 
Enough to insult us?

-- 
Ian

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#47746

On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 4:25:45 PM UTC-6, Ian Collins wrote:
> On 12/30/16 11:19 AM, woodbrian77@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 2:55:57 PM UTC-6, Ian Collins wrote:
> >> On 12/30/16 07:27 AM, woodbrian77@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 7:32:00 AM UTC-6, Dombo wrote:
> >>>
> >>> And he said: "Truly I tell you, unless you change and become
> >>> like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.
> >>> Matthew 18:3
> >>
> >> Do little children insult whole countries?
> >
> > I agree with Ben Shapiro when he describes himself
> > as a "radical individualist".  I'm for people,
> > but against the baseless hatred in some "leaders"
> 
> So how much do you know about the people and leaders of New Zealand? 
> Enough to insult us?
>

G-d loves people from New Zealand, including the leaders.  G-d 
loved King Herod even though Herod murdered Yohanan the Immerser 
(aka John the Baptist).  But G-d sent Yohanan and Yeshua (aka 
Jesus), in part, to stand up to Herod.  Herod didn't respond 
well to their rebuke.  I'm afraid there's no shortage of corrupt 
people like Herod in power today.


Brian
Ebenezer Enterprises
http://webEbenezer.net

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#47748

On 12/30/16 06:59 PM, woodbrian77@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 4:25:45 PM UTC-6, Ian Collins wrote:
>> On 12/30/16 11:19 AM, woodbrian77@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 2:55:57 PM UTC-6, Ian Collins wrote:
>>>> On 12/30/16 07:27 AM, woodbrian77@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 7:32:00 AM UTC-6, Dombo wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> And he said: "Truly I tell you, unless you change and become
>>>>> like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.
>>>>> Matthew 18:3
>>>>
>>>> Do little children insult whole countries?
>>>
>>> I agree with Ben Shapiro when he describes himself
>>> as a "radical individualist".  I'm for people,
>>> but against the baseless hatred in some "leaders"
>>
>> So how much do you know about the people and leaders of New Zealand?
>> Enough to insult us?
>>
>
> G-d loves people from New Zealand, including the leaders.


In other words, no.  An apology would be appropriate.

-- 
Ian

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#47755

On Friday, December 30, 2016 at 2:27:59 AM UTC-6, Ian Collins wrote:
> On 12/30/16 06:59 PM, woodbrian77@gmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >
> > G-d loves people from New Zealand, including the leaders.
> 
> 
> In other words, no.  An apology would be appropriate.
> 

If I were planning a trip to your part of the world, I'd
go to Australia.

"Australian Foreign Minister claims that if it had had a say, 
Australia would not have voted for the recent "one-sided" UN resolution."

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/222531

I've never been to Australia or New Zealand, but
Austrailia is looking like they still have a heart. 


Brian
Ebenezer Enterprises - Enjoy programming again.
http://webEbenezer.net

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#47757

Op 30-Dec-16 om 6:51 PM schreef woodbrian77@gmail.com:
> On Friday, December 30, 2016 at 2:27:59 AM UTC-6, Ian Collins wrote:
>> On 12/30/16 06:59 PM, woodbrian77@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>> G-d loves people from New Zealand, including the leaders.
>>
>>
>> In other words, no.  An apology would be appropriate.
>>
>
> If I were planning a trip to your part of the world, I'd
> go to Australia.
>
> "Australian Foreign Minister claims that if it had had a say,
> Australia would not have voted for the recent "one-sided" UN resolution."

one-sided?

ROFL!

Wouter "Objects? No Thanks!" van Ooijen

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#47750

On 29/12/16 23:19, woodbrian77@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 2:55:57 PM UTC-6, Ian Collins wrote:
>> On 12/30/16 07:27 AM, woodbrian77@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 7:32:00 AM UTC-6, Dombo wrote:
>>>
>>> And he said: "Truly I tell you, unless you change and become
>>> like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.
>>> Matthew 18:3
>>
>> Do little children insult whole countries?
> 
> I agree with Ben Shapiro when he describes himself
> as a "radical individualist".  I'm for people,
> but against the baseless hatred in some "leaders" 
> -- Putin, Obama ...
> 

So you claim to be /for/ the people (of USA, NZ, UK, Russia, etc.), and
against their leaders?  Fair enough - there is nothing wrong with having
a political opinion (though it is always much better if it is /informed/
opinion, rather than just knee-jerk reaction).

So why do you then insult the /people/ (of USA, etc.) rather than their
leaders?

And why do you accuse them of "anti-semitism" - prejudice against Jews
either as a people or as members of a religion?  Both the leaders and
the majority of the populace of these countries disapproves of Israel's
/leaders/ and political policies - they have nothing against either the
people of Israel, the Jewish religion, or anything else that could be
construed as anti-semitism.  They just don't think that one country
should invade its neighbours and turn that country into a giant prison
camp while stealing their land and resources.  The leaders and populace
of USA, etc., don't care if the tyrants behind this plan are Jewish,
Christian, Muslim, Martians, or whatever.

The hypocrisy behind your "thinking" is just astounding.  It does not
matter how often you quote your old book, or complain about swearing -
you can't claim to be Christian if you don't understand basic humanity
and if you don't follow Jesus' most important rule - love thy neighbour.


> Some would like to set a trap for Israel with this
> UN (United Nothing) vote.  The funny thing is that
> these "leaders" will have the trap they intended for 
> Israel recoil on themselves.  I'll be buying products 
> from Taiwan and South Korea, rather than China or Japan.
> 

Whoa, these countries are in for a shock!  When they find out that Brian
is no longer buying products from China and Japan, their economies will
be collapsing in no time.  Watch out for that "recoil"!

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#47751

The leaders are choosed many time from peoples but only 
in a rose, or in a little set choosed
from elite...
So where is the choose people has?

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#47752

For me it is better leader is the 
parliaments so many peoples
not just one...
More people there are in parlaments
better it is

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#47705

On 12/29/16 09:41 AM, woodbrian77@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 1:36:59 PM UTC-6, Chris Vine wrote:
>>
>> Brian,
>>
>> You are a nasty piece of work who thinks it is OK to slag off anyone
>> or any countries that you happen to come across.
>
> I was criticizing "leaders" like Putin.

No you weren't, you were directing nasty baseless insults at a dozen 
countries.

-- 
Ian

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