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Pricing of the new Standard : Are you kidding me?

Started byVictor Bazarov <v.bazarov@comcast.invalid>
First post2012-02-10 13:07 -0500
Last post2012-02-13 09:27 -0600
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  Pricing of the new Standard : Are you kidding me? Victor Bazarov <v.bazarov@comcast.invalid> - 2012-02-10 13:07 -0500
    Re: Pricing of the new Standard : Are you kidding me? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-02-10 18:30 +0000
    Re: Pricing of the new Standard : Are you kidding me? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-02-11 07:37 +1300
    Re: Pricing of the new Standard : Are you kidding me? Noah Roberts <roberts.noah@gmail.com> - 2012-02-10 10:43 -0800
      Re: Pricing of the new Standard : Are you kidding me? Victor Bazarov <v.bazarov@comcast.invalid> - 2012-02-10 13:55 -0500
      Re: Pricing of the new Standard : Are you kidding me? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-02-11 00:20 +0000
    Re: Pricing of the new Standard : Are you kidding me? Ebenezer <woodbrian77@gmail.com> - 2012-02-11 09:25 -0800
    Re: Pricing of the new Standard : Are you kidding me? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2012-02-11 18:00 +0000
    Re: Pricing of the new Standard : Are you kidding me? "Hans Bos" <hans.bos@xelion.nl> - 2012-02-11 21:26 +0100
    Re: Pricing of the new Standard : Are you kidding me? SG <s.gesemann@gmail.com> - 2012-02-13 06:27 -0800
      Re: Pricing of the new Standard : Are you kidding me? "MikeWhy" <boat042-nospam@yahoo.com> - 2012-02-13 09:27 -0600

#13888 — Pricing of the new Standard : Are you kidding me?

FromVictor Bazarov <v.bazarov@comcast.invalid>
Date2012-02-10 13:07 -0500
SubjectPricing of the new Standard : Are you kidding me?
Message-ID<jh3mcp$pbo$1@dont-email.me>
http://webstore.ansi.org/FindStandards.aspx?SearchString=14882%3a2011&SearchOption=0&PageNum=0&SearchTermsArray=null%7c14882%3a2011%7cnull

Two hundred eighty-five dollars?  For an electronic copy?  Guess, I'll 
be using the latest draft...

V
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#13889

FromRui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com>
Date2012-02-10 18:30 +0000
Message-ID<jh3no3$8rd$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#13888
Victor Bazarov wrote:

> 
http://webstore.ansi.org/FindStandards.aspx?SearchString=14882%3a2011&SearchOption=0&PageNum=0&SearchTermsArray=null%7c14882%3a2011%7cnull
> 
> Two hundred eighty-five dollars?  For an electronic copy?  Guess, I'll
> be using the latest draft...

And what about the price for BS ISO/IEC 14882:2011?  It is basically the 
ISO/IEC 14882:2011 standard with a couple of pages with the BS logo slapped 
at the beginning and at the end, and for that kind of added value they 
charge $761.  What a ripoff.


Rui Maciel

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#13890

FromIan Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com>
Date2012-02-11 07:37 +1300
Message-ID<9pl6ekFr4aU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#13888
On 02/11/12 07:07 AM, Victor Bazarov wrote:
> http://webstore.ansi.org/FindStandards.aspx?SearchString=14882%3a2011&SearchOption=0&PageNum=0&SearchTermsArray=null%7c14882%3a2011%7cnull
>
> Two hundred eighty-five dollars?  For an electronic copy?  Guess, I'll
> be using the latest draft...

Have a look at the thread "Reasonably priced C11 standard?" on comp.std.c.

-- 
Ian Collins

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#13891

FromNoah Roberts <roberts.noah@gmail.com>
Date2012-02-10 10:43 -0800
Message-ID<c0371a74-d85b-419f-97ac-ce1498b662b2@z31g2000vbt.googlegroups.com>
In reply to#13888
On Feb 10, 10:07 am, Victor Bazarov <v.baza...@comcast.invalid> wrote:
> http://webstore.ansi.org/FindStandards.aspx?SearchString=14882%3a2011...
>
> Two hundred eighty-five dollars?  For an electronic copy?  Guess, I'll
> be using the latest draft...
>
> V

Costs a lot to make a standard and it's not exactly a popular novel.

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#13892

FromVictor Bazarov <v.bazarov@comcast.invalid>
Date2012-02-10 13:55 -0500
Message-ID<jh3p6o$b6q$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#13891
On 2/10/2012 1:43 PM, Noah Roberts wrote:
> On Feb 10, 10:07 am, Victor Bazarov<v.baza...@comcast.invalid>  wrote:
>> http://webstore.ansi.org/FindStandards.aspx?SearchString=14882%3a2011...
>>
>> Two hundred eighty-five dollars?  For an electronic copy?  Guess, I'll
>> be using the latest draft...
>>
>> V
>
> Costs a lot to make a standard and it's not exactly a popular novel.

Don't tell me ANSI actually does something to "make a standard".  As I 
understand the process, it's all done by members and sponsors, which, 
after the Standard is published, don't actually see a penny from the 
proceeds ANSI gets selling the right to download that PDF.  And it would 
be popular if it were priced like the previous edition, around $30...

V
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#13897

FromRui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com>
Date2012-02-11 00:20 +0000
Message-ID<jh4c8g$l4k$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#13891
Noah Roberts wrote:

> Costs a lot to make a standard and it's not exactly a popular novel.

How much did ISO, IEC, EN or any other international standards organization 
spent making this standard?


Rui Maciel

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#13904

FromEbenezer <woodbrian77@gmail.com>
Date2012-02-11 09:25 -0800
Message-ID<5ac41fc3-f1d4-4dd6-acc3-a766793a2c7d@h3g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>
In reply to#13888
On Feb 10, 12:07 pm, Victor Bazarov <v.baza...@comcast.invalid> wrote:
> http://webstore.ansi.org/FindStandards.aspx?SearchString=14882%3a2011...
>
> Two hundred eighty-five dollars?  For an electronic copy?  Guess, I'll
> be using the latest draft...
>

I wonder who falls for that.  I wouldn't buy an electronic
copy for $20.  They would have to make it about $11 to make
it tempting.

Brian
Ebenezer Enterprises
http://webEbenezer.net

O n e
B i g -
A s s
M i s t a k e ,
A m e r i c a

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#13905

Fromscott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
Date2012-02-11 18:00 +0000
Message-ID<s1yZq.88298$TB4.2301@news.usenetserver.com>
In reply to#13888
Victor Bazarov <v.bazarov@comcast.invalid> writes:
>http://webstore.ansi.org/FindStandards.aspx?SearchString=14882%3a2011&SearchOption=0&PageNum=0&SearchTermsArray=null%7c14882%3a2011%7cnull
>
>Two hundred eighty-five dollars?  For an electronic copy?  Guess, I'll 
>be using the latest draft...

Hey, they have to pay for all the hotel rooms for ANSI staffers at the
committee meetings somehow.

scott

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#13914

From"Hans Bos" <hans.bos@xelion.nl>
Date2012-02-11 21:26 +0100
Message-ID<4f36cef8$0$6943$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>
In reply to#13888
"Victor Bazarov" <v.bazarov@comcast.invalid> schreef in bericht 
news:jh3mcp$pbo$1@dont-email.me...
> http://webstore.ansi.org/FindStandards.aspx?SearchString=14882%3a2011&SearchOption=0&PageNum=0&SearchTermsArray=null%7c14882%3a2011%7cnull
>
> Two hundred eighty-five dollars?  For an electronic copy?  Guess, I'll be 
> using the latest draft...

Here http://open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2012/n3337.pdf you have 
the first draft of the next standard which only has some editorial changes 
with respect to the c++11 standard.

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#13985

FromSG <s.gesemann@gmail.com>
Date2012-02-13 06:27 -0800
Message-ID<178bf0c0-d642-45d1-9f25-67622a80abe5@i2g2000vbv.googlegroups.com>
In reply to#13888
On 10 Feb., 19:07, Victor Bazarov wrote:
> Two hundred eighty-five dollars?  For an electronic copy?
> Guess, I'll be using the latest draft...

Do that. As far as I know

  N3337.pdf [1]  =  ISO/IEC C++ 2011  +  editorial fixes

:-)

Cheers!
SG

[1] http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2012/

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#13987

From"MikeWhy" <boat042-nospam@yahoo.com>
Date2012-02-13 09:27 -0600
Message-ID<jhba4b$oki$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#13985
SG wrote:
> 
>   N3337.pdf [1]  =  ISO/IEC C++ 2011  +  editorial fixes
> 
> :-)
> 
> Cheers!
> SG
> 
> [1] http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2012/

Thank you!

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