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c_str from anonymous std::string

Started byAndrew Tomazos <andrew@tomazos.com>
First post2011-12-11 23:57 -0800
Last post2011-12-13 10:17 -0800
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  c_str from anonymous std::string Andrew Tomazos <andrew@tomazos.com> - 2011-12-11 23:57 -0800
    Re: c_str from anonymous std::string SG <s.gesemann@gmail.com> - 2011-12-12 00:10 -0800
    Re: c_str from anonymous std::string Goran <goran.pusic@gmail.com> - 2011-12-12 00:21 -0800
      Re: c_str from anonymous std::string "MikeWhy" <boat042-nospam@yahoo.com> - 2011-12-12 17:39 -0600
        Re: c_str from anonymous std::string Tobias Müller <troplin@bluewin.ch> - 2011-12-13 07:13 +0000
        Re: c_str from anonymous std::string Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2011-12-13 07:38 +0000
        Re: c_str from anonymous std::string Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-12-13 20:49 +1300
        Re: c_str from anonymous std::string Andrew Tomazos <andrew@tomazos.com> - 2011-12-13 02:19 -0800
          Re: c_str from anonymous std::string "MikeWhy" <boat042-nospam@yahoo.com> - 2011-12-13 11:10 -0600
            Re: c_str from anonymous std::string Andrew Tomazos <andrew@tomazos.com> - 2011-12-13 10:17 -0800

#12391 — c_str from anonymous std::string

FromAndrew Tomazos <andrew@tomazos.com>
Date2011-12-11 23:57 -0800
Subjectc_str from anonymous std::string
Message-ID<381e2339-377a-4969-bf8a-7613b811632f@gl2g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>
class X
{
    operator std::string(); // stringify X instance
};

void f(const char*);

X x = ...
f(string(x).c_str());

According to the C++11 standard, will the destructor of std::string be
called before or after the call to f, or is it undefined?

Thanks,
Andrew.

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#12392

FromSG <s.gesemann@gmail.com>
Date2011-12-12 00:10 -0800
Message-ID<6bcbb7fd-1693-4afa-aa59-68685fb9073d@i6g2000vbh.googlegroups.com>
In reply to#12391
On Dec 12, 8:57 am, Andrew Tomazos wrote:
>  class X
>  {
>     operator std::string(); // stringify X instance
>  };
>
>  void f(const char*);
>
>  X x = ...
>  f(string(x).c_str());
>
> According to the C++11 standard, will the destructor of std::string be
> called before or after the call to f, or is it undefined?

After. The code is fine.

Cheers!
SG

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#12393

FromGoran <goran.pusic@gmail.com>
Date2011-12-12 00:21 -0800
Message-ID<b919c4e6-cd44-4695-ad09-3e0161de441f@y18g2000yqy.googlegroups.com>
In reply to#12391
On Dec 12, 8:57 am, Andrew Tomazos <and...@tomazos.com> wrote:
> class X
> {
>     operator std::string(); // stringify X instance
>
> };
>
> void f(const char*);
>
> X x = ...
> f(string(x).c_str());
>
> According to the C++11 standard, will the destructor of std::string be
> called before or after the call to f, or is it undefined?

My understanding is that such temporaries is destroyed when statement
is finished, which, here, is after the semicolon.

Goran.

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#12419

From"MikeWhy" <boat042-nospam@yahoo.com>
Date2011-12-12 17:39 -0600
Message-ID<jc63b5$3iu$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#12393
Goran wrote:
> On Dec 12, 8:57 am, Andrew Tomazos <and...@tomazos.com> wrote:
>> class X
>> {
>> operator std::string(); // stringify X instance
>>
>> };
>>
>> void f(const char*);
>>
>> X x = ...
>> f(string(x).c_str());
>>
>> According to the C++11 standard, will the destructor of std::string
>> be called before or after the call to f, or is it undefined?
>
> My understanding is that such temporaries is destroyed when statement
> is finished, which, here, is after the semicolon.

It should be further noted that "string(x)" here is an explicit C-style 
typecast, syntactically identical to "((std::string)x)", followed by copy 
construction of std::string, creating not just one, but *two* temporary 
std::string. What a nasty bit of business. This isn't real code, is it? Just 
some contrived nastiness to astonish and dismay job applicants?


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#12427

FromTobias Müller <troplin@bluewin.ch>
Date2011-12-13 07:13 +0000
Message-ID<924584814345451259.474696troplin-bluewin.ch@news.aioe.org>
In reply to#12419
"MikeWhy" <boat042-nospam@yahoo.com> wrote:
> It should be further noted that "string(x)" here is an explicit C-style
> typecast, syntactically identical to "((std::string)x)", followed by copy
> construction of std::string, creating not just one, but *two* temporary
> std::string. What a nasty bit of business. This isn't real code, is it?
> Just some contrived nastiness to astonish and dismay job applicants?

Really? Why is operator std::string /followed/ by a copy constuctor? There
is a copy /on returning/ a std::string from the operator function but this
is an inherent "problem" of returning by value and not the fault of the
rest of the code ("problem" in quotes, because this is optimized away by
most compilers).

Or am I misunderstanding something obvious?

Tobi

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#12428

FromJuha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid>
Date2011-12-13 07:38 +0000
Message-ID<4ee70112$0$3122$7b1e8fa0@news.nbl.fi>
In reply to#12419
MikeWhy <boat042-nospam@yahoo.com> wrote:
> It should be further noted that "string(x)" here is an explicit C-style 
> typecast, syntactically identical to "((std::string)x)"

  It looks like a regular object instantiation by calling its constructor
to me. (The latter is also interpreted like that.)

  How else would you construct a temporary object?

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#12429

FromIan Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com>
Date2011-12-13 20:49 +1300
Message-ID<9koecfFhipU9@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#12419
On 12/13/11 12:39 PM, MikeWhy wrote:
>
> It should be further noted that "string(x)" here is an explicit C-style
> typecast, syntactically identical to "((std::string)x)", followed by copy
> construction of std::string, creating not just one, but *two* temporary
> std::string.

In addition to the other corrections, there really isn't such a thing as 
an "explicit C-style typecast".  There is a C style cast (witch is 
always explicit) and there's a type conversion (which is isn't).

-- 
Ian Collins

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#12437

FromAndrew Tomazos <andrew@tomazos.com>
Date2011-12-13 02:19 -0800
Message-ID<4e7f5148-4ed7-4c9c-9f1d-42ed11124eef@y7g2000vbe.googlegroups.com>
In reply to#12419
On Dec 13, 12:39 am, "MikeWhy" <boat042-nos...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Goran wrote:
> > On Dec 12, 8:57 am, Andrew Tomazos <and...@tomazos.com> wrote:
> >> class X
> >> {
> >> operator std::string(); // stringify X instance
>
> >> };
>
> >> void f(const char*);
>
> >> X x = ...
> >> f(string(x).c_str());
>
> >> According to the C++11 standard, will the destructor of std::string
> >> be called before or after the call to f, or is it undefined?
>
> > My understanding is that such temporaries is destroyed when statement
> > is finished, which, here, is after the semicolon.
>
> It should be further noted that "string(x)" here is an explicit C-style
> typecast, syntactically identical to "((std::string)x)", followed by copy
> construction of std::string, creating not just one, but *two* temporary
> std::string.

$ cat < test.cpp

#include <iostream>

using namespace std;

class A
{
public:
	A() { cout << "d"; }
	A(const A& a) : x(a.x) { cout << "c"; }

	int getx() const { return x; }
	int x;
};

class B
{
public:
	B(int i) : x(i) {}
	operator A() { A a; a.x = x; return a; }

	int x;
};

void f(int x) { cout << x << endl; }

int main(int argc, char** argv)
{
	B b(argc);

	f(A(b).getx());
}

$ g++ test.cpp
$ ./a.out
d1

I only count one d. :)

Due to the return value optimization...
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Return_value_optimization>

> What a nasty bit of business. This isn't real code, is it? Just
> some contrived nastiness to astonish and dismay job applicants?

Imagine how much less embarrassed you would be if you stated it this
way:

    "I think that two temporaries will be created, won't they?"

and left it at that. ;)

Enjoy,
    Andrew.

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#12456

From"MikeWhy" <boat042-nospam@yahoo.com>
Date2011-12-13 11:10 -0600
Message-ID<jc80ue$sfu$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#12437
Andrew Tomazos wrote:
> On Dec 13, 12:39 am, "MikeWhy" <boat042-nos...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Goran wrote:
>>> On Dec 12, 8:57 am, Andrew Tomazos <and...@tomazos.com> wrote:
>>>> class X
>>>> {
>>>> operator std::string(); // stringify X instance
>> 
>>>> };
>> 
>>>> void f(const char*);
>> 
>>>> X x = ...
>>>> f(string(x).c_str());
>> 
>>>> According to the C++11 standard, will the destructor of std::string
>>>> be called before or after the call to f, or is it undefined?
>> 
>>> My understanding is that such temporaries is destroyed when
>>> statement is finished, which, here, is after the semicolon.
>> 
>> It should be further noted that "string(x)" here is an explicit
>> C-style typecast, syntactically identical to "((std::string)x)",
>> followed by copy construction of std::string, creating not just one,
>> but *two* temporary std::string.
> 
> $ cat < test.cpp
> 
> #include <iostream>
> 
> using namespace std;
> 
> class A
> {
> public:
> A() { cout << "d"; }
> A(const A& a) : x(a.x) { cout << "c"; }
> 
> int getx() const { return x; }
> int x;
> };
> 
> class B
> {
> public:
> B(int i) : x(i) {}
> operator A() { A a; a.x = x; return a; }
> 
> int x;
> };
> 
> void f(int x) { cout << x << endl; }
> 
> int main(int argc, char** argv)
> {
> B b(argc);
> 
> f(A(b).getx());
> }
> 
> $ g++ test.cpp
> $ ./a.out
> d1
> 
> I only count one d. :)
> 
> Due to the return value optimization...
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Return_value_optimization>
> 
>> What a nasty bit of business. This isn't real code, is it? Just
>> some contrived nastiness to astonish and dismay job applicants?
> 
> Imagine how much less embarrassed you would be if you stated it this
> way:
> 
>     "I think that two temporaries will be created, won't they?"
> 
> and left it at that. ;)
> 
> Enjoy,
>     Andrew.

Cause for my embarrassment is wholly imaginary.

The following produced: 

[[
Boo::operator ZooString()const
ZooString<0013FF48>::ZooString(const char *) {Boo}
ZooString<0013FF2C>::ZooString(const ZooString &) {Boo}
Boo
]]

Note the copy construction.



//================================
//================================
#include <iostream>
#include <string>

//================================
//================================
class ZooString
{
public:
 ZooString(const char * s = "")
  : str(s)
 { PrintTo(std::cout, "::ZooString(const char *)") << '\n';
 }

 ZooString(const ZooString & r)
  : str(r.str)
 { PrintTo(std::cout, "::ZooString(const ZooString &)") << '\n';
 }

 const char * c_str() const
 { 
    return str.c_str();
 }

 std::ostream & PrintTo(std::ostream & os, const char * msg) const
 {
  os << "ZooString<" << (void*)this << '>' << msg
   << " {" << str << '}';
  return os;
 }
private:
 std::string str;
};
//================================
//================================
class Boo
{
public:
 Boo(){}
 Boo(const Boo &);
 operator ZooString() const
 { std::cout << "Boo::operator ZooString()const\n";
  return "Boo";
 }
};
//================================
//================================
int main(int, char**)
{
 Boo hoo;
 std::cout << ZooString(hoo).c_str() << '\n';

 return 0;
}


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#12458

FromAndrew Tomazos <andrew@tomazos.com>
Date2011-12-13 10:17 -0800
Message-ID<44688b4f-33b3-4a9b-ac9d-086f21a972a7@p14g2000yqp.googlegroups.com>
In reply to#12456
On Dec 13, 6:10 pm, "MikeWhy" <boat042-nos...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Andrew Tomazos wrote:
> > On Dec 13, 12:39 am, "MikeWhy" <boat042-nos...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> Goran wrote:
> >>> On Dec 12, 8:57 am, Andrew Tomazos <and...@tomazos.com> wrote:
> >>>> class X
> >>>> {
> >>>> operator std::string(); // stringify X instance
>
> >>>> };
>
> >>>> void f(const char*);
>
> >>>> X x = ...
> >>>> f(string(x).c_str());
>
> >>>> According to the C++11 standard, will the destructor of std::string
> >>>> be called before or after the call to f, or is it undefined?
>
> >>> My understanding is that such temporaries is destroyed when
> >>> statement is finished, which, here, is after the semicolon.
>
> >> It should be further noted that "string(x)" here is an explicit
> >> C-style typecast, syntactically identical to "((std::string)x)",
> >> followed by copy construction of std::string, creating not just one,
> >> but *two* temporary std::string.
>
> > $ cat < test.cpp
>
> > #include <iostream>
>
> > using namespace std;
>
> > class A
> > {
> > public:
> > A() { cout << "d"; }
> > A(const A& a) : x(a.x) { cout << "c"; }
>
> > int getx() const { return x; }
> > int x;
> > };
>
> > class B
> > {
> > public:
> > B(int i) : x(i) {}
> > operator A() { A a; a.x = x; return a; }
>
> > int x;
> > };
>
> > void f(int x) { cout << x << endl; }
>
> > int main(int argc, char** argv)
> > {
> > B b(argc);
>
> > f(A(b).getx());
> > }
>
> > $ g++ test.cpp
> > $ ./a.out
> > d1
>
> > I only count one d. :)
>
> > Due to the return value optimization...
> > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Return_value_optimization>
>
> >> What a nasty bit of business. This isn't real code, is it? Just
> >> some contrived nastiness to astonish and dismay job applicants?
>
> > Imagine how much less embarrassed you would be if you stated it this
> > way:
>
> >     "I think that two temporaries will be created, won't they?"
>
> > and left it at that. ;)
>
> > Enjoy,
> >     Andrew.
>
> Cause for my embarrassment is wholly imaginary.
>
> The following produced:
>
> [[
> Boo::operator ZooString()const
> ZooString<0013FF48>::ZooString(const char *) {Boo}
> ZooString<0013FF2C>::ZooString(const ZooString &) {Boo}
> Boo
> ]]
>
> Note the copy construction.

So get a real compiler...

    $ g++ YourExample.cpp
    $ ./a.out
    Boo::operator ZooString()const
    ZooString<0x7fff335e93e0>::ZooString(const char *) {Boo}
    Boo

    $ g++ --version
    g++ (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.6.1-9ubuntu3) 4.6.1

Regards,
Andrew.

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