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  What's happened to James Kanze? "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-30 12:28 +0100
    Re: What's happened to James Kanze? Keith H Duggar <duggar@alum.mit.edu> - 2011-07-02 18:47 -0700
      Re: What's happened to James Kanze? "Alf P. Steinbach /Usenet" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com> - 2011-07-03 11:48 +0200
        Re: What's happened to James Kanze? drew@furrfu.invalid (Drew Lawson) - 2011-07-04 02:39 +0000
          Re: What's happened to James Kanze? "Alf P. Steinbach /Usenet" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com> - 2011-07-04 11:07 +0200
            Re: What's happened to James Kanze? Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> - 2011-07-04 19:02 +0900
              Re: What's happened to James Kanze? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-07-04 22:39 +1200
              Re: What's happened to James Kanze? "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-07-04 19:50 +0100
                Re: What's happened to James Kanze? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-07-04 14:07 -0700
                  Re: What's happened to James Kanze? Leo Equinox Gaspard <ekinox1995@gmail.com> - 2011-07-05 00:06 +0200
                    Re: What's happened to James Kanze? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-07-04 16:34 -0700
        Re: What's happened to James Kanze? Alexei Zakharov <alexeiz@gmail.com> - 2011-07-05 13:02 -0400
          Re: What's happened to James Kanze? Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> - 2011-07-06 10:43 +0900
            Re: What's happened to James Kanze? Michael DOUBEZ <michael.doubez@free.fr> - 2011-07-06 03:13 -0700
      Re: What's happened to James Kanze? "Bo Persson" <bop@gmb.dk> - 2011-07-03 15:15 +0200
      Re: What's happened to James Kanze? "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-07-04 19:48 +0100

#7282 — What's happened to James Kanze?

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#7389

On Jun 30, 7:28 am, "Paul" <pchris...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> ?
>
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http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/05/15/new.york.imf.questioning/index.html?iref=allsearch

;-)

In all seriousness, I hope he is well and enjoying a much deserved
rest from the ... well certain the other denizens of the internet.

KHD

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#7396

* Keith H Duggar, on 03.07.2011 03:47:
> On Jun 30, 7:28 am, "Paul"<pchris...@yahoo.co.uk>  wrote:
>> ?

Please don't use Google Groups' new interrface.

It screws up threading in ordinary newsreaders, by omitting the references header.

It's just more Usenet sabotage from Google (counting the spam, the signature 
delimiter sabotage, the blurring of Usenet versus GG)  --  just Say No(TM).


Cheers,

- Alf

-- 
blog at <url: http://alfps.wordpress.com>

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#7424

In article <iupdmr$p2c$1@dont-email.me>
	"Alf P. Steinbach /Usenet" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com> writes:
>* Keith H Duggar, on 03.07.2011 03:47:
>> On Jun 30, 7:28 am, "Paul"<pchris...@yahoo.co.uk>  wrote:
>>> ?
>
>Please don't use Google Groups' new interrface.
>
>It screws up threading in ordinary newsreaders, by omitting the references header.

The article you responded to had a correct References header when it reached my machine.
Not that I encourage any web based gateways to Usenet.


-- 
Drew Lawson            |  Savage bed foot-warmer
                       |    of purest feline ancestry
                       |  Look out little furry folk
                       |    it's the all-night working cat

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#7432

* Drew Lawson, on 04.07.2011 04:39:
> In article<iupdmr$p2c$1@dont-email.me>
> 	"Alf P. Steinbach /Usenet"<alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com>  writes:
>> * Keith H Duggar, on 03.07.2011 03:47:
>>> On Jun 30, 7:28 am, "Paul"<pchris...@yahoo.co.uk>   wrote:
>>>> ?
>>
>> Please don't use Google Groups' new interrface.
>>
>> It screws up threading in ordinary newsreaders, by omitting the references header.
>
> The article you responded to had a correct References header when it reached my machine.
> Not that I encourage any web based gateways to Usenet.

Seems I was mistaken about that posting.

But on the other hand, the crusade against Google Group's new so called 
"sociopathic" UI is good and just.

Why spoil it with facts?


Cheers,

- Alf

-- 
blog at <url: http://alfps.wordpress.com>

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#7434

"Alf P. Steinbach /Usenet" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com> writes:
> But on the other hand, the crusade against Google Group's new so called
> "sociopathic" UI is good and just.

Hmm, so if it actually does output correct References (etc) headers,
what's wrong with it?

[A real question -- I don't use GG...]

-Miles

-- 
I'd rather be consing.

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#7435

On 07/ 4/11 10:02 PM, Miles Bader wrote:
> "Alf P. Steinbach /Usenet"<alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com>  writes:
>> But on the other hand, the crusade against Google Group's new so called
>> "sociopathic" UI is good and just.
>
> Hmm, so if it actually does output correct References (etc) headers,
> what's wrong with it?

The new sociopathic interface does not include a references header.

-- 
Ian Collins

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#7449

"Miles Bader" <miles@gnu.org> wrote in message 
news:buooc1a8it9.fsf@dhlpc061.dev.necel.com...
> "Alf P. Steinbach /Usenet" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com> writes:
>> But on the other hand, the crusade against Google Group's new so called
>> "sociopathic" UI is good and just.
>
> Hmm, so if it actually does output correct References (etc) headers,
> what's wrong with it?
>
> [A real question -- I don't use GG...]
>
Good point.
Although I havew no idea what you're talking about. I wouldn't know the new 
google interface from the old one TBH.



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#7454

On 7/4/2011 11:50 AM, Paul wrote:
>
> "Miles Bader" <miles@gnu.org> wrote in message
> news:buooc1a8it9.fsf@dhlpc061.dev.necel.com...
>> "Alf P. Steinbach /Usenet" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com> writes:
>>> But on the other hand, the crusade against Google Group's new so called
>>> "sociopathic" UI is good and just.
>>
>> Hmm, so if it actually does output correct References (etc) headers,
>> what's wrong with it?
>>
>> [A real question -- I don't use GG...]
>>
> Good point.
> Although I havew no idea what you're talking about. I wouldn't know the
> new google interface from the old one TBH.
>

well, currently this thread is taking place on Usenet (which exists 
independently of Google), which is generally accessed by dedicated 
client programs (such as Outlook or Thunderbird), and usually has a 
structure about like a tree of independent messages.


Google Groups, however, tries to make it look like a big long list, 
similar to in a web-forum or similar, which makes things messy when 
people try to do quick/short responses to whatever message was directly 
"above", or they treat the subject line as if it were part of the 
message, ... (basically, when someone does one of these short responses, 
it leaves people having to click around and try to read prior messages 
to identify what was being responded to).

so, the usual style is to respond to a message in-whole, and comment 
between the quoted comments.

also, GG may leave very long lines in the message with the assumption 
that readers will automatically word-wrap them, but this is not often 
the case with many readers (and people may have to scroll rightwards 
very far trying to read a paragraph all on a single line).

GG may also break threads (not setting messages as responding to the 
prior message), leaving piles of messages all at the top-level.

...

so, in all, a bit of a mess...

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#7456

Le 04/07/2011 23:07, BGB a écrit :
> On 7/4/2011 11:50 AM, Paul wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> also, GG may leave very long lines in the message with the assumption
> that readers will automatically word-wrap them, but this is not often
> the case with many readers (and people may have to scroll rightwards
> very far trying to read a paragraph all on a single line).

My Thunderbird itself has to word-wrap your message.
Isn't it a sign ?

>
> [...]
>

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#7457

On 7/4/2011 3:06 PM, Leo Equinox Gaspard wrote:
> Le 04/07/2011 23:07, BGB a écrit :
>> On 7/4/2011 11:50 AM, Paul wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> also, GG may leave very long lines in the message with the assumption
>> that readers will automatically word-wrap them, but this is not often
>> the case with many readers (and people may have to scroll rightwards
>> very far trying to read a paragraph all on a single line).
>
> My Thunderbird itself has to word-wrap your message.
> Isn't it a sign ?
>

dunno...

I am using Thunderbird, so whatever it does is whatever it does...

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#7481

On Sun, 03 Jul 2011 11:48:02 +0200, "Alf P. Steinbach /Usenet" 
<alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
> Please don't use Google Groups' new interrface.
> It screws up threading in ordinary newsreaders, by omitting the 
references header.
> It's just more Usenet sabotage from Google (counting the spam, the 
signature 
> delimiter sabotage, the blurring of Usenet versus GG)  --  just Say 
No(TM).

Some of us have the nntp port blocked at work. Google groups could be 
a nice alternative for posting on Usenet if it weren't so broken.

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#7503

Alexei Zakharov <alexeiz@gmail.com> writes:
> Some of us have the nntp port blocked at work. Google groups could be
> a nice alternative for posting on Usenet if it weren't so broken.

Could also set up a tunnelling proxy to access external nntp servers...

-miles

-- 
Arrest, v. Formally to detain one accused of unusualness.

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#7522

On Jul 6, 3:43 am, Miles Bader <mi...@gnu.org> wrote:
> Alexei Zakharov <alex...@gmail.com> writes:
> > Some of us have the nntp port blocked at work. Google groups could be
> > a nice alternative for posting on Usenet if it weren't so broken.
>
> Could also set up a tunnelling proxy to access external nntp servers...

Even easier, you can install a private web news reader in PHP on a
server.
http://pnews.urdada.net/  (not tested)

--
Michael

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#7407

Keith H Duggar wrote:
> On Jun 30, 7:28 am, "Paul" <pchris...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> ?
>>
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> http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/05/15/new.york.imf.questioning/index.html?iref=allsearch
>
> ;-)
>
> In all seriousness, I hope he is well and enjoying a much deserved
> rest from the ... well certain the other denizens of the internet.
>

Like several of us, he has found a new place to play:

http://stackoverflow.com/users/649665/james-kanze



Bo Persson

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#7448

"Keith H Duggar" <duggar@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message 
news:9a5b5237-53ac-45f3-bf0a-dc8e42f17262@t9g2000vbs.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 30, 7:28 am, "Paul" <pchris...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> ?
>
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> n...@netfront.net ---

--http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/05/15/new.york.imf.questioning/index.html?iref=allsearch

--;-)

Hey that was quite funny but a differnet khan, or kanze, this dude is a 
decendant of the great ghengis khan and he has been prosecuted for chasing a 
maid down a hallway. She must've been damn pretty. No serioulsy its not 
funny if the girl/woman was raped the dude should be punished.

--In all seriousness, I hope he is well and enjoying a much deserved
--rest from the ... well certain the other denizens of the interne

It seems he was still alive 3 months ago at least if he made a profile on 
stakcoverflow. Dam I miss that dude , I guess he's had enough of Leighs 
constant bickering.

Leigh was always having a go at Jamesy boy, shame on you Leigh, you've 
driven him away. :)



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