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Don't be fooled by cpp.sh

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First post2019-12-13 21:28 -0800
Last post2019-12-15 09:49 +0000
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  Don't be fooled by cpp.sh woodbrian77@gmail.com - 2019-12-13 21:28 -0800
    Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.co.uk - 2019-12-14 09:23 +0000
      Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2019-12-14 17:19 +0000
        Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-14 09:54 -0800
          Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh woodbrian77@gmail.com - 2019-12-14 12:00 -0800
            Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-14 13:51 -0800
              Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-12-14 22:19 +0000
                Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-14 16:13 -0800
                Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2019-12-15 15:35 +0000
          Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-12-14 22:17 +0000
            Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-14 16:03 -0800
              Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2019-12-15 15:41 +1300
                Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2019-12-14 22:55 -0800
              Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.co.uk - 2019-12-15 09:53 +0000
                Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-12-15 11:18 +0000
                  Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.co.uk - 2019-12-15 16:44 +0000
                    Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-12-15 20:49 +0000
                      Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2019-12-15 15:11 -0800
                        Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-12-15 23:28 +0000
                          Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-15 15:41 -0800
                            Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-12-16 05:18 +0000
                              Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-16 10:46 -0800
                            Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.co.uk - 2019-12-16 09:57 +0000
                              Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-16 10:21 -0800
                                Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.co.uk - 2019-12-17 09:37 +0000
                                  Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2019-12-17 15:13 +0200
                                    Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.co.uk - 2019-12-17 14:12 +0000
                                      Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2019-12-17 19:35 +0200
                                        Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.co.uk - 2019-12-18 16:14 +0000
                                  Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-17 08:32 -0800
                                    Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.co.uk - 2019-12-18 16:26 +0000
                                      Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk> - 2019-12-18 19:11 +0000
                                        Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com> - 2019-12-18 11:23 -0800
                                          Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-18 11:31 -0800
                                          Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk> - 2019-12-18 19:56 +0000
                                            Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.co.uk - 2019-12-19 08:42 +0000
                                              Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk> - 2019-12-19 20:26 +0000
                                                Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.co.uk - 2019-12-20 09:25 +0000
                                                  Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-20 04:35 -0800
                                                    Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.co.uk - 2019-12-20 16:28 +0000
                                                      Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-20 10:36 -0800
                                                        Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.co.uk - 2019-12-21 16:33 +0000
                                                          Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-21 09:11 -0800
                                                            Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.co.uk - 2019-12-21 17:22 +0000
                                                              Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-21 10:18 -0800
                                                                Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2019-12-21 21:21 +0000
                                                                  Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-21 14:30 -0800
                                                                    Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2019-12-22 21:36 +0000
                                                                      Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-22 15:05 -0800
                                                                Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.co.uk - 2019-12-22 17:03 +0000
                                                                  Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Mr Flibble <flibble@i42.removethisbit.co.uk> - 2019-12-22 17:46 +0000
                                                                    Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2019-12-22 18:07 -0800
                                                                    Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.co.uk - 2019-12-23 16:23 +0000
                                                                      Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Mr Flibble <flibble@i42.removethisbit.co.uk> - 2019-12-23 16:33 +0000
                                                                        Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.co.uk - 2019-12-23 16:46 +0000
                                                                      Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2019-12-23 18:51 +0200
                                                                        Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.co.uk - 2019-12-23 17:02 +0000
                                                                          Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2019-12-23 19:17 +0200
                                                                            Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2019-12-24 09:49 +0000
                                                                              Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2019-12-24 02:16 -0800
                                                                              Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2019-12-25 00:30 +0200
                                                                                Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2019-12-26 09:46 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2019-12-26 16:38 +0200
                                                                                    Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2019-12-26 17:33 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2019-12-26 19:52 +0200
                                                                                        Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2019-12-27 17:14 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com> - 2019-12-27 09:41 -0800
                                                                                            Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2019-12-28 12:05 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Chris Vine <chris@cvine--nospam--.freeserve.co.uk> - 2019-12-28 21:01 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2019-12-29 09:00 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2019-12-29 12:21 +0200
                                                                                                    Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2019-12-29 18:30 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2019-12-29 21:45 +0200
                                                                                                        Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2019-12-30 10:10 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2019-12-30 14:03 +0200
                                                                                                            Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2019-12-30 12:17 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-30 04:39 -0800
                                                                                                                Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2019-12-30 13:01 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2019-12-30 15:17 +0200
                                                                                                                  Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-12-30 14:22 +0100
                                                                                                                    Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-30 16:49 +0100
                                                                                                                      Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-12-30 17:18 +0100
                                                                                                                        Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-30 18:12 +0100
                                                                                                                          Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-12-30 18:16 +0100
                                                                                                                            Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-30 18:38 +0100
                                                                                                                              Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-12-30 19:17 +0100
                                                                                                                                Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-30 20:55 +0100
                                                                                                                                  Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-12-31 03:13 +0100
                                                                                                                                    Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-31 13:01 +0100
                                                                                                                                      Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-12-31 13:13 +0100
                                                                                                                                        Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-31 14:09 +0100
                                                                                                                                          Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-12-31 14:12 +0100
                                                                                                                                            Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-31 15:39 +0100
                                                                                                                                              Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-12-31 15:45 +0100
                                                                                                                                                Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-12-31 15:22 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-12-31 17:16 +0100
                                                                                                                                                Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-31 17:51 +0100
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-12-31 17:59 +0100
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-31 18:21 +0100
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-12-31 18:35 +0100
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-31 18:51 +0100
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-12-31 18:59 +0100
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-31 12:23 -0800
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2019-12-31 16:14 -0800
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2019-12-31 16:52 -0800
                                                                                                                                                Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2019-12-31 18:58 +0200
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-12-31 18:00 +0100
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2019-12-31 19:21 +0200
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-31 18:22 +0100
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-12-31 18:46 +0100
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2019-12-31 20:30 +0200
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-12-31 19:44 +0100
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2020-01-10 08:10 -0800
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-01-11 13:03 +0100
                                                                                                                                                              Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2020-01-12 07:50 +1300
                                                                                                                                                                Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2020-01-11 11:55 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-01-11 23:59 +0100
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-01-01 23:04 +0100
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2020-01-04 20:04 -0500
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-05 13:36 +0100
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-01-06 18:39 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2019-12-31 16:16 -0800
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-31 17:01 -0800
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2020-01-01 17:34 +0200
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-01-01 23:09 +0100
                                                                                                                                  Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-12-31 03:29 +0100
                                                                                                                          Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2019-12-30 19:37 -0800
                                                                                                                            Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Chris Vine <chris@cvine--nospam--.freeserve.co.uk> - 2019-12-31 11:19 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-31 13:14 +0100
                                                                                                                              Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2019-12-31 16:06 -0800
                                                                                                                  Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-30 05:39 -0800
                                                                                                                  Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-30 16:39 +0100
                                                                                                                    Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2019-12-31 09:25 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-12-31 12:00 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2019-12-31 16:10 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-12-31 16:42 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2020-01-01 09:07 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2020-01-01 15:48 +0200
                                                                                                                                Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2020-01-02 09:24 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2020-01-02 12:02 +0200
                                                                                                                                    Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2020-01-02 10:52 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2020-01-02 13:27 +0200
                                                                                                                                        Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2020-01-02 16:45 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2020-01-02 16:55 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2020-01-02 17:24 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-02 18:30 +0100
                                                                                                                                                Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-01-03 09:40 +0100
                                                                                                                                          Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-01-02 22:58 +0100
                                                                                                                                          Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-01-02 22:28 -0500
                                                                                                                                          Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-01-02 22:56 -0500
                                                                                                                                      Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-01-02 22:20 -0500
                                                                                                                                        Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2020-01-03 14:53 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-01-03 17:22 +0100
                                                                                                                                            Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2020-01-04 12:45 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-01-03 09:01 -0800
                                                                                                                                            Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-01-03 10:29 -0800
                                                                                                                                              Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-01-03 21:05 -0500
                                                                                                                                              Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2020-01-10 08:46 -0800
                                                                                                                                                Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-01-10 09:51 -0800
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2020-01-10 14:59 -0800
                                                                                                                          Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2019-12-31 19:06 +0200
                                                                                                                      Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2019-12-31 14:06 +0200
                                                                                                                      Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-31 13:38 +0100
                                                                                                                        Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2019-12-31 16:13 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Mr Flibble <flibble@i42.removethisbit.co.uk> - 2019-12-31 17:06 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2020-01-01 09:09 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-31 18:11 +0100
                                                                                                                            Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2020-01-01 09:13 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2020-01-01 09:09 -0600
                                                                                                                                Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2020-01-02 09:25 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2020-01-03 10:09 -0600
                                                                                                                                    Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2020-01-04 12:43 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2020-01-04 18:02 -0600
                                                                                                                                        Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2020-01-05 10:41 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2020-01-05 12:31 -0600
                                                                                                                                            Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-01-05 20:11 +0100
                                                                                                                                              Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2020-01-05 11:22 -0800
                                                                                                                                              Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2020-01-05 21:07 -0600
                                                                                                                                                Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-01-05 20:40 -0800
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2020-01-06 18:08 -0600
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-01-06 23:17 -0500
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-01-07 08:37 +0100
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2020-01-10 14:51 -0800
                                                                                                                                                Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-01-07 08:28 +0100
                                                                                                                                            Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2020-01-10 14:19 -0800
                                                                                                                              Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-01-01 23:15 +0100
                                                                                                                                Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2020-01-02 09:33 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-01-02 12:16 +0100
                                                                                                                          Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Chris Vine <chris@cvine--nospam--.freeserve.co.uk> - 2019-12-31 18:14 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-12-31 19:16 +0100
                                                                                                                              Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Chris Vine <chris@cvine--nospam--.freeserve.co.uk> - 2019-12-31 18:48 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com> - 2019-12-31 12:29 -0800
                                                                                                                            Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2020-01-01 09:17 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-30 16:32 +0100
                                                                                                          Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Bo Persson <bo@bo-persson.se> - 2019-12-30 14:57 +0100
                                                                                                            Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2019-12-31 09:23 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2019-12-30 22:16 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2019-12-30 20:30 -0800
                                                                                                            Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2020-01-10 21:12 -0800
                                                                                                          Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2019-12-30 20:07 -0800
                                                                                                      Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-12-30 13:50 +0100
                                                                                                      Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com> - 2020-01-01 08:11 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2020-01-02 09:28 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2020-01-10 21:26 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Chris Vine <chris@cvine--nospam--.freeserve.co.uk> - 2019-12-29 11:31 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2019-12-29 18:35 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Mr Flibble <flibble@i42.removethisbit.co.uk> - 2019-12-29 18:40 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2019-12-30 10:12 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-12-30 14:10 +0100
                                                                                                    Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com> - 2019-12-29 12:11 -0800
                                                                                                Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com> - 2019-12-29 22:20 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-30 01:23 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Chris Vine <chris@cvine--nospam--.freeserve.co.uk> - 2019-12-30 15:54 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Mr Flibble <flibble@i42.removethisbit.co.uk> - 2019-12-30 17:07 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Chris Vine <chris@cvine--nospam--.freeserve.co.uk> - 2019-12-30 19:58 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Chris Vine <chris@cvine--nospam--.freeserve.co.uk> - 2019-12-30 23:59 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-12-30 21:23 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com> - 2019-12-28 18:09 -0800
                                                                                      Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Mr Flibble <flibble@i42.removethisbit.co.uk> - 2019-12-26 18:30 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2019-12-27 17:17 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-27 09:58 -0800
                                                                                            Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2019-12-28 12:06 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-28 08:39 -0800
                                                                                                Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.org - 2019-12-28 16:57 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Pavel <pauldontspamtolk@removeyourself.dontspam.yahoo> - 2020-01-02 23:18 -0500
                                                                                    Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2019-12-26 10:54 -0800
                                                                                      Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2019-12-26 22:50 +0200
                                                                                  Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com> - 2019-12-26 10:38 -0800
                                                            Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh woodbrian77@gmail.com - 2019-12-24 17:52 -0800
                                                              Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-24 23:53 -0800
                                                                Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh woodbrian77@gmail.com - 2019-12-25 08:51 -0800
                                                                  Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-25 10:54 -0800
                                                    Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh woodbrian77@gmail.com - 2019-12-21 08:42 -0800
                                                      Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-21 09:25 -0800
                                      Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-18 11:28 -0800
                                        Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk> - 2019-12-18 20:00 +0000
                                      Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2019-12-18 22:12 +0200
                                        Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.co.uk - 2019-12-19 08:47 +0000
                                  Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-12-30 14:03 +0100
                                Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com> - 2019-12-18 09:47 -0800
                                  Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-18 11:49 -0800
                                    Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com> - 2019-12-18 12:05 -0800
                                      Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-18 12:19 -0800
                              Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk> - 2019-12-16 21:13 +0000
                                Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.co.uk - 2019-12-17 09:38 +0000
                              Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2019-12-17 09:14 +0000
                                Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk> - 2019-12-17 17:50 +0000
                        Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-16 09:35 +0100
                Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk> - 2019-12-15 20:48 +0000
                  Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.co.uk - 2019-12-16 09:55 +0000
              Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-12-15 11:12 +0000
              Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com> - 2019-12-15 06:53 -0800
                Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.co.uk - 2019-12-15 16:48 +0000
                  Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com> - 2019-12-15 09:10 -0800
                    Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.co.uk - 2019-12-15 18:33 +0000
                      Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2019-12-15 19:29 +0000
                Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2019-12-15 23:38 -0500
                  Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-15 21:23 -0800
                    Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com> - 2019-12-15 21:36 -0800
                      Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-15 21:43 -0800
                        Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-16 09:44 +0100
                          Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-12-16 12:10 +0000
                            Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-16 16:21 +0100
                              Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2019-12-16 10:54 -0600
                                Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2019-12-16 10:47 -0800
                                  Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-16 11:19 -0800
                                  Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-16 21:15 +0100
                                    Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2019-12-16 22:23 -0800
                                      Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-17 09:31 +0100
                                  Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2019-12-16 23:23 -0600
                                Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2019-12-16 21:45 +0000
                                  Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2019-12-16 23:20 -0600
                                    Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2019-12-17 21:56 +0000
                                  Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2019-12-16 22:06 -0800
                                Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2019-12-16 19:42 -0800
                              Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com> - 2019-12-16 11:56 -0800
                                Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-16 21:18 +0100
                              Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-12-16 21:03 +0000
                                Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-17 00:04 +0100
                              Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-12-17 01:06 +0000
                                Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-17 14:51 +0100
                          Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2019-12-16 07:25 -0500
                            Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Bo Persson <bo@bo-persson.se> - 2019-12-16 14:13 +0100
                            Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-16 16:32 +0100
                              Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2019-12-16 10:52 -0800
                                Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-16 21:24 +0100
                              Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-16 10:56 -0800
                              Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2019-12-16 20:45 +0000
                                Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-16 22:00 +0100
                                  Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2019-12-17 04:07 +0000
                                    Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-17 15:00 +0100
                                      Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2019-12-17 14:44 +0000
                                        Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-17 15:54 +0100
                                          Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2019-12-17 15:52 +0000
                                          Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2019-12-17 11:51 -0800
                                            Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-17 22:10 +0100
                                              Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2019-12-17 22:08 -0800
                                                Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-12-18 08:56 +0100
                                            Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2020-01-10 08:29 -0800
                                        Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2019-12-17 23:55 -0500
                                  Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com> - 2019-12-18 09:36 -0800
                                Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2019-12-16 22:29 -0800
                              Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2019-12-16 22:40 -0500
                    Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2019-12-16 07:17 -0500
                  Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com> - 2019-12-15 21:24 -0800
                    Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Bo Persson <bo@bo-persson.se> - 2019-12-16 12:13 +0100
                    Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2019-12-16 07:44 -0500
                      Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com> - 2019-12-16 18:53 -0800
            Re: Don't be fooled by cpp.sh boltar@nowhere.co.uk - 2019-12-15 09:49 +0000

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#70558

FromDaniel <danielaparker@gmail.com>
Date2019-12-18 09:36 -0800
Message-ID<c222ebcc-c704-4429-855b-3a896a88ff25@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#70520
On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 4:00:51 PM UTC-5, David Brown wrote:

> gcc supports 128-bit types even with "-std=c11 -pedantic" 

But no support for <limits>, unless with -std=gnu++11

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#70534

FromKeith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com>
Date2019-12-16 22:29 -0800
Message-ID<87sgljv50a.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com>
In reply to#70519
Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> writes:
[...]
> intmax_t is useful, in part because it solves the printf problem.  You
> can portably print any integer i using
>
>   printf("%ld\n", (intmax_t)i);

You mean "%jd\n".

> whether i is an extended type like __int128 or even some weird 99-bit
> integer type.

To be completely sure, you need to use either intmax_t or uintmax_t
depending on whether the argument is signed or unsigned.  If you
have a name for the type, you can do something like

    big_type i = some_value;
    if ((big_type)-1 > (big_type)0) {
        printf("%ju\n", (uintmax_t)i);
    }
    else {
        printf("%jd\n", (intmax_t)i);
    }

But quite often you'll know from context whether the type is signed or
unsigned, even if you don't know which type it is.

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com
    [Note updated email address]
Working, but not speaking, for Philips Healthcare
void Void(void) { Void(); } /* The recursive call of the void */

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#70527

FromJames Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu>
Date2019-12-16 22:40 -0500
Message-ID<qt9in2$65r$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#70507
On 12/16/19 10:32 AM, David Brown wrote:
...> I suspect that at the time, no one really thought about the possibility
> of 128-bit integers.  After all, 64-bit integers were new, and 64 bits
> should be enough for anybody!
I can assure you that the possibility of people wanting, and
implementations providing, 128 bit integers was fairly heavily discussed
during the lead-up to C99's approval. If there had been an implicit
belief that there would never be any types larger than int64_t, there'd
have been no point in specifying intmax_t - int64_t would have served
the purpose that intmax_t was designed to serve.

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#70502

FromJames Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu>
Date2019-12-16 07:17 -0500
Message-ID<qt7sk7$5a3$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#70491
On 12/16/19 12:23 AM, Öö Tiib wrote:
> On Monday, 16 December 2019 06:38:20 UTC+2, James Kuyper  wrote:
>> On 12/15/19 9:53 AM, Daniel wrote:
>> ...
>>> And yet, it still doesn't have ... 
>>> std::int128,
>>
>> I'm curious: how would std::int128 differ from std::int128_t, which has
>> been standardized? It is optional, just like all the other fixed-sized
>> typedefs. Like those other typedefs, if not supported, that identifier,
>> and the corresponding macros such at INT128_MAX, may not be used for any
>> conflicting purpose if the type is not supported.
>> What more would you want of std::int128? Making it mandatory? That won't
>> work any better than making std:int16_t mandatory - C++'s mandate is to
>> be implementable almost everywhere, including platforms on which
>> std::int16_t (much less std::int128_t) would not be implementable.
> 
> May be it is not about standard but about compiler makers who provide
> 128 bit integers that are not conformant with std::int128_t.
> 

There's nothing that defining std::int128 would do to solve that problem
unless the standard says something different about std::int128 than it
currently says about std::int128_t. So what would you want it to say
different?

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#70492

FromDaniel <danielaparker@gmail.com>
Date2019-12-15 21:24 -0800
Message-ID<cf81f9e1-722b-4fce-adc2-1c723b31c61a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#70489
On Sunday, December 15, 2019 at 11:38:20 PM UTC-5, James Kuyper wrote:
> 
> std::int128_t ... has been standardized

I wasn't aware of that. Can you provide a reference?

Thanks,
Daniel 

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#70500

FromBo Persson <bo@bo-persson.se>
Date2019-12-16 12:13 +0100
Message-ID<h5p76pF7jptU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#70492
On 2019-12-16 at 06:24, Daniel wrote:
> On Sunday, December 15, 2019 at 11:38:20 PM UTC-5, James Kuyper wrote:
>>
>> std::int128_t ... has been standardized
> 
> I wasn't aware of that. Can you provide a reference?
> 

The *meaning* of intN_t is standardized for all N. Still optional though 
(with special rules for N = 8, 16, 32, and 64).


     Bo Persson

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#70504

FromJames Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu>
Date2019-12-16 07:44 -0500
Message-ID<qt7u7b$ghh$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#70492
On 12/16/19 12:24 AM, Daniel wrote:
> On Sunday, December 15, 2019 at 11:38:20 PM UTC-5, James Kuyper wrote:
>>
>> std::int128_t ... has been standardized
> 
> I wasn't aware of that. Can you provide a reference?

As with most of those parts of the C++ library that correspond to the C
standard library, the C++ standard says very little itself about
<stdint.h>, <inttypes.h>, <cstdint> and <cinttypes> (C++ 27.9.2p3,4 is
the main exception, and not relevant to this discussion). Instead, it
simply incorporates the corresponding wording from the C standard by
reference (C++ 17.6.1.2p4).

The relevant words are in the C standard.

First of all:

"For each type described herein that the implementation provides, 254)
<stdint.h> shall declare that typedef name and define the associated
macros. Conversely, for each type described herein that the
implementation does not provide, <stdint.h> shall not declare that
typedef name nor shall it define the associated macros. An
implementation shall provide those types described as ‘‘required’’, but
need not provide any of the others (described as ‘‘optional’’)."
(C 7.20.1p4)

Support for [u]intleastN_t (7.2.1.2p3) and [u]intfastN_t (7.20.1.3p3)
and is mandatory for N==8, 16, 32, and 64. Support for [u]intN_t is
mandatory for those same values, but only if an implementation provides
integer types with those sizes, no padding bits, and 2's complement
representation for the signed versions of those types (7.20.1.1p3). All
an implementation needs to do to justify not providing int64_t is to not
provide such a 64-bit type. For all other values of N cases, support is
optional - but per 7.20.1p4, the relevant identifiers cannot be used for
any conflicting purpose by the implementation - and that is the sense in
which I say that it has been standardized.

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#70526

FromDaniel <danielaparker@gmail.com>
Date2019-12-16 18:53 -0800
Message-ID<4ab531d3-9e13-4fb3-99a3-954885d5a0f5@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#70504
On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 7:44:38 AM UTC-5, James Kuyper wrote:
> 
> As with most of those parts of the C++ library that correspond to the C
> standard library, the C++ standard says very little itself about
> <stdint.h>, <inttypes.h>, <cstdint> and <cinttypes> (C++ 27.9.2p3,4 is
> the main exception, and not relevant to this discussion). Instead, it
> simply incorporates the corresponding wording from the C standard by
> reference (C++ 17.6.1.2p4).
> 
> The relevant words are in the C standard.
> 
> First of all:
> 
> "For each type described herein that the implementation provides, 254)
> <stdint.h> shall declare that typedef name and define the associated
> macros. Conversely, for each type described herein that the
> implementation does not provide, <stdint.h> shall not declare that
> typedef name nor shall it define the associated macros. An
> implementation shall provide those types described as ‘‘required’’, but
> need not provide any of the others (described as ‘‘optional’’)."
> (C 7.20.1p4)
> 
> Support for [u]intleastN_t (7.2.1.2p3) and [u]intfastN_t (7.20.1.3p3)
> and is mandatory for N==8, 16, 32, and 64. Support for [u]intN_t is
> mandatory for those same values, but only if an implementation provides
> integer types with those sizes, no padding bits, and 2's complement
> representation for the signed versions of those types (7.20.1.1p3). All
> an implementation needs to do to justify not providing int64_t is to not
> provide such a 64-bit type. For all other values of N cases, support is
> optional - but per 7.20.1p4, the relevant identifiers cannot be used for
> any conflicting purpose by the implementation - and that is the sense in
> which I say that it has been standardized.

Thanks, appreciate the references.

Daniel

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#70469

Fromboltar@nowhere.co.uk
Date2019-12-15 09:49 +0000
Message-ID<qt4vje$1oei$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#70462
On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 22:17:00 GMT
Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> wrote:
>On 2019-12-14, Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> wrote:
>> On Saturday, 14 December 2019 19:19:35 UTC+2, Vir Campestris  wrote:
>>> On 14/12/2019 09:23, boltar@nowhere.co.uk wrote:
>>> > Who the hell cares about online C++ compilers? Anyone who uses C++ will
>>> > already have a far superior compiler on their own machine so what purpose
>>> > do they serve other than stroking the egos of the people writing them?
>>> 
>>> I care. Just the other day I was testing some code across different 
>>> compilers. The online compilers let me try half a dozen different 
>>> compilers on my code fragment. I only have GCC installed on my machine.
>>
>> With so complex and quickly evolving language like C++ it is good idea
>> to have couple of different compilers installed plus some static
>> analysis tools as well. When any of such clever tools (written by quite
>> good programmers) become confused about your code then it is almost 
>> guaraneed that other person (or even you yourself few months later)
>> will be even more confused about it.
>
>C++ can be quite clean language, written.

It can be , but often isn't. And as certain people in this group demonstrate,
some coders go out of their way to make their code obstuse and hard to
understand for reasons more to do with their personalities rather than logical
requirements.

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