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  std::bless Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk> - 2020-01-05 20:53 +0000
    Re: std::bless Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2020-01-05 15:00 -0800
      Re: std::bless Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-01-05 16:11 -0800
        Re: std::bless "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2020-01-05 16:33 -0800

#71157 — std::bless

Hi,

I find the name of std::bless and the subsequent concept of "blessing" things in C++ as offensive to both my
beliefs (as I am a militant atheist and anti-theist) and to the concept of keeping religion out of the
technical/scientific/engineering arena (similar to the concept of separation of church and state).

I am assuming that this is just a place holder name and that the C++ Committee hasn't been overrun with god bothering fucktards.

/Flibble

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#71160

On Sunday, 5 January 2020 22:53:49 UTC+2, Mr Flibble  wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I find the name of std::bless and the subsequent concept of "blessing" things in C++ as offensive to both my
> beliefs (as I am a militant atheist and anti-theist) and to the concept of keeping religion out of the
> technical/scientific/engineering arena (similar to the concept of separation of church and state).

Uhh. Calm down, what is that std::bless even supposed to be? Never heard
of it.

> 
> I am assuming that this is just a place holder name and that the C++ Committee hasn't been overrun with god bothering fucktards.

And also in your proposals you can likely be more constructive. 
Propose alternatives std::endow, std::favor, std::preserve and
avoid mentioning fucktards. ;)

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#71161

Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> writes:
[...]
> Uhh. Calm down, what is that std::bless even supposed to be? Never heard
> of it.

It's mentioned in this proposal, "Implicit creation of objects for
low-level object manipulation" published 2018-02-11:
    http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2018/p0593r2.html
It looks similar to std::launder, introduced in C++17.

Perl has a built-in "bless" function.  I presume that's where the name
came from.

It's not mentioned in the latest C++ draft standard.

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#71162

On 1/5/2020 4:11 PM, Keith Thompson wrote:
> Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> writes:
> [...]
>> Uhh. Calm down, what is that std::bless even supposed to be? Never heard
>> of it.
> 
> It's mentioned in this proposal, "Implicit creation of objects for
> low-level object manipulation" published 2018-02-11:
>      http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2018/p0593r2.html
> It looks similar to std::launder, introduced in C++17.

Thanks for the reference. I have not experienced std::bless yet, but 
have heard of std::launder. Never used them.


> 
> Perl has a built-in "bless" function.  I presume that's where the name
> came from.
> 
> It's not mentioned in the latest C++ draft standard.
> 

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