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Niuce C++14-feature

Started byBonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com>
First post2021-05-16 18:10 +0200
Last post2021-05-18 15:14 -0700
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  Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-16 18:10 +0200
    Re: Niuce C++14-feature Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2021-05-16 10:54 -0700
      Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-16 20:01 +0200
        Re: Niuce C++14-feature Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2021-05-16 11:29 -0700
          Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-17 08:20 +0200
            Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_f4zl13qm@8lfoe01ih4ebku.com - 2021-05-17 09:26 +0000
              Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-17 12:52 +0200
                Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_yMgsa7x5@3ifr32ivepk32ia.org - 2021-05-17 11:29 +0000
                  Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-17 13:42 +0200
                    Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_zSl@bw3y07so7dr3go2x.tv - 2021-05-17 13:31 +0000
            Re: Niuce C++14-feature Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2021-05-17 19:53 -0700
              Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-18 05:39 +0200
                Re: Niuce C++14-feature Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2021-05-17 22:33 -0700
    Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_sey@tad.gov.uk - 2021-05-17 07:42 +0000
      Re: Niuce C++14-feature Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2021-05-17 10:58 +0000
        Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_vj8xvznaud@d16tgqd.co.uk - 2021-05-17 11:32 +0000
          Re: Niuce C++14-feature Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2021-05-17 12:03 +0000
            Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_gT9q@x057vr3tuoe9s_ht3c.net - 2021-05-17 13:18 +0000
              Re: Niuce C++14-feature Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2021-05-17 14:02 +0000
                Re: Niuce C++14-feature Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2021-05-17 16:36 +0000
                Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_rtfm7b8w@g403t8gw2b59awtit.tv - 2021-05-17 14:54 +0000
        Re: Niuce C++14-feature Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2021-05-17 10:37 -0700
          Re: Niuce C++14-feature Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2021-05-18 06:47 +0000
            Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_w2uom3_k07@47j.ac.uk - 2021-05-18 07:30 +0000
              Re: Niuce C++14-feature Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2021-05-18 10:31 +0000
                Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_axe6hb@rq6ypc_knzvwr9.ac.uk - 2021-05-18 15:11 +0000
                Re: Niuce C++14-feature Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2021-05-18 16:57 -0700
                  Re: Niuce C++14-feature Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2021-05-19 04:53 +0000
            Re: Niuce C++14-feature Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2021-05-18 13:08 +0100
            Re: Niuce C++14-feature Manfred <noname@add.invalid> - 2021-05-18 17:10 +0200
            Re: Niuce C++14-feature James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2021-05-18 11:56 -0400
            Re: Niuce C++14-feature Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2021-05-18 16:56 -0700
              Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-18 22:05 -0700
                Re: Niuce C++14-feature Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2021-05-19 12:01 +0000
                  Re: Niuce C++14-feature Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2021-05-24 10:54 +0000
                    Re: Niuce C++14-feature James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2021-05-24 14:51 -0400
              Re: Niuce C++14-feature Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2021-05-19 05:02 +0000
                Re: Niuce C++14-feature James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2021-05-19 10:07 -0400
                Re: Niuce C++14-feature Manfred <noname@add.invalid> - 2021-05-19 15:16 +0200
              Re: Niuce C++14-feature Spud@nowheresville.org - 2021-05-19 07:19 +0000
                Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-19 00:53 -0700
                  Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_pl1c1bg7i@7sxv4z8mvmyz_.ac.uk - 2021-05-19 08:28 +0000
                    Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-19 01:34 -0700
                      Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_6efnqt73nm@nyyte.com - 2021-05-19 08:44 +0000
                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-19 01:50 -0700
                          Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_54rouunX@x37ixhgx27ymvhwc5.net - 2021-05-19 09:31 +0000
                            Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-19 13:39 -0700
                              Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-19 13:46 -0700
                              Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_nkfcgvl@7o616.biz - 2021-05-20 08:23 +0000
                                Re: Niuce C++14-feature Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2021-05-20 12:38 +0300
                                  Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_5Xl@m9q7d5ux5tl8o5.co.uk - 2021-05-20 14:38 +0000
                                    Re: Niuce C++14-feature Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc> - 2021-05-20 17:43 +0000
                                      Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_dg01t9p2@m0m4iuefk1x.edu - 2021-05-21 09:16 +0000
                                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-21 13:38 +0200
                                          Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_L1peqs_@c81ltrsr_gfoo1.co.uk - 2021-05-21 13:39 +0000
                                            Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-21 15:46 +0200
                                              Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_km@gfepxabk0g_ytn7ta.net - 2021-05-21 14:48 +0000
                                                Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-21 17:03 +0200
                                            Re: Niuce C++14-feature scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-05-21 14:15 +0000
                                              Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_6f@fypmp_.biz - 2021-05-21 14:57 +0000
                                                Re: Niuce C++14-feature scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-05-21 15:05 +0000
                                              Re: Niuce C++14-feature "daniel...@gmail.com" <danielaparker@gmail.com> - 2021-05-21 09:42 -0700
                                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc> - 2021-05-21 14:44 +0100
                                          Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_4ptu0Yl4x9@2q77bsgmv.edu - 2021-05-21 14:47 +0000
                                    Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-21 05:31 +0200
                                      Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_va6psV1d@w5lywejmkchyss0h4d.gov - 2021-05-21 09:24 +0000
                                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-21 13:33 +0200
                                          Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_md3@zi2k.com - 2021-05-21 13:32 +0000
                                            Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-21 15:43 +0200
                                              Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_zq3a8xxm@t9c1d7aq5dby4al.gov.uk - 2021-05-21 14:44 +0000
                                                Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-21 17:07 +0200
                                                  Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_hjgci2iT0@qtinm1mgdu.info - 2021-05-21 16:12 +0000
                                                    Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-21 18:18 +0200
                                                      Re: Niuce C++14-feature scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-05-21 16:25 +0000
                                                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-21 18:36 +0200
                                                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2021-05-22 16:18 +0200
                                                          Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-22 16:25 +0200
                                                            Re: Niuce C++14-feature Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2021-05-22 08:44 -0700
                                                              Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-22 17:49 +0200
                                                            Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 05:50 +0200
                                                              Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 21:32 -0700
                                                                Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 06:40 +0200
                                                                  Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 22:07 -0700
                                                                    Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 22:08 -0700
                                                                      Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 07:46 +0200
                                                                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 23:12 -0700
                                                                          Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 08:19 +0200
                                                                            Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 23:20 -0700
                                                                              Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 08:22 +0200
                                                                                Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 23:27 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 08:30 +0200
                                                                                    Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 23:32 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 08:35 +0200
                                                                                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 23:38 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 23:41 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 08:44 +0200
                                                                                            Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 23:49 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 08:50 +0200
                                                                                                Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 23:52 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 08:54 +0200
                                                                                                    Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 23:56 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 08:59 +0200
                                                                                                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 00:03 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 09:04 +0200
                                                                                                            Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 00:09 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 09:11 +0200
                                                                                    Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 23:34 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 08:36 +0200
                                                                                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 23:38 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 08:39 +0200
                                                                                            Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 23:43 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 08:46 +0200
                                                                                                Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 23:55 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 09:00 +0200
                                                                                                    Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 00:02 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 09:05 +0200
                                                                                                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 00:07 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 00:08 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 09:10 +0200
                                                                                Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 08:32 +0200
                                                                                  Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 23:33 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 08:34 +0200
                                                                                      Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 23:37 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 08:40 +0200
                                                                                          Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 23:53 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 08:55 +0200
                                                                                              Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 23:58 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 09:01 +0200
                                                                                                  Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 00:04 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 09:07 +0200
                                                                                                      Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 00:10 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 00:01 -0700
                                                                                Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 23:30 -0700
                                                            Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_801o@21xmy7.gov.uk - 2021-05-24 08:31 +0000
                                                              Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_8_g@ef863gl0.eu - 2021-05-24 08:34 +0000
                                                              Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 11:49 +0200
                                                                Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_9v@0v6uq5zonj66dteaq9.ac.uk - 2021-05-24 10:15 +0000
                                                                  Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 12:44 +0200
                                                                    Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 13:33 -0700
                                                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_cjz9@ngfllgqd.edu - 2021-05-25 09:02 +0000
                                                          Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 12:54 +0200
                                                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_43zpj5@zrdy.biz - 2021-05-25 09:02 +0000
                                                          Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-25 12:53 +0200
                                                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_m0gtwlu6_g@j_cyo9l9.edu - 2021-05-25 09:05 +0000
                                                          Re: Niuce C++14-feature Manfred <noname@add.invalid> - 2021-05-25 16:22 +0200
                                                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_wBhaki@w1dhf2q0pnagn57.eu - 2021-05-24 08:26 +0000
                                                          Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 11:51 +0200
                                                            Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_rfg_f9lmv@xechfnrqs23y.com - 2021-05-24 10:17 +0000
                                                              Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 12:45 +0200
                                                                Re: Niuce C++14-feature David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2021-05-24 13:42 +0200
                                                                  Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 13:54 +0200
                                                                    Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 14:19 +0200
                                                                      Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 15:02 +0200
                                                                      Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_1shmhc5pEg@qedprf.biz - 2021-05-24 13:57 +0000
                                                                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 18:15 +0200
                                                                    Re: Niuce C++14-feature David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2021-05-24 15:21 +0200
                                                                      Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 15:37 +0200
                                                                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_61Z@avwe8ulg.co.uk - 2021-05-24 13:49 +0000
                                                                          Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 18:14 +0200
                                                                      Re: Niuce C++14-feature Manfred <noname@add.invalid> - 2021-05-24 16:58 +0200
                                                                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2021-05-24 18:51 +0200
                                                      Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_o_4Ge4wpt@2iwg_s7sq47equu9a.edu - 2021-05-24 08:25 +0000
                                                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-24 11:52 +0200
                                                    Re: Niuce C++14-feature Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc> - 2021-05-21 17:19 +0100
                                                      Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_3l@rsdtj2x7.gov - 2021-05-24 08:22 +0000
                                  Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_f4@x4dcxggdi.eu - 2021-05-20 13:42 +0000
                                    Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-20 16:20 +0200
                                  Re: Niuce C++14-feature Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@gmail.com> - 2021-05-20 18:02 +0000
                                    Re: Niuce C++14-feature scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-05-20 19:23 +0000
                                      Re: Niuce C++14-feature Chris Vine <chris@cvine--nospam--.freeserve.co.uk> - 2021-05-21 00:07 +0100
                                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_db0ucj9V@o6t54wlnnja_.co.uk - 2021-05-21 09:24 +0000
                                      Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_a102e@wnyqsthof.net - 2021-05-21 09:22 +0000
                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-19 01:53 -0700
                          Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-19 01:54 -0700
                  Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-19 10:30 +0200
                    Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-19 01:35 -0700
                      Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-19 01:36 -0700
                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-19 01:37 -0700
                      Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-19 12:57 +0200
                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-19 13:33 -0700
                Re: Niuce C++14-feature James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2021-05-19 10:20 -0400
                  Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-19 18:13 +0200
                Re: Niuce C++14-feature Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2021-05-19 10:09 -0700
      Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-17 13:28 +0200
        Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_97@bxos5xe28b1i1n7kh.ac.uk - 2021-05-17 11:34 +0000
          Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-17 13:41 +0200
            Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_b89m0or3@x1_pxvs4h8sxxi.gov.uk - 2021-05-17 13:29 +0000
              Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_imhoou@kq9.ac.uk - 2021-05-17 15:53 +0000
                Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_qg11H@ihwz2zmflqtcalb.gov.uk - 2021-05-17 16:06 +0000
                  Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-17 18:21 +0200
                    Re: Niuce C++14-feature Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2021-05-17 16:38 +0000
                Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-17 17:58 +0200
              Re: Niuce C++14-feature Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2021-05-17 14:03 +0000
                Re: Niuce C++14-feature Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2021-05-17 16:37 +0000
                  Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_7kof@5x9.edu - 2021-05-18 07:27 +0000
                Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_cOJ9@yr_8g_4nz.com - 2021-05-17 14:55 +0000
              Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-17 16:06 +0200
                Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_tt7xetn_st@d3zd4ilmme.gov - 2021-05-17 14:56 +0000
                  Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-17 17:20 +0200
                  Re: Niuce C++14-feature Manfred <noname@add.invalid> - 2021-05-18 17:20 +0200
                    Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_h2j5v@jq7cn18h8lm.com - 2021-05-18 15:35 +0000
                      Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-18 17:57 +0200
                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_0by_disXi@2hd58e950gxh.eu - 2021-05-19 07:22 +0000
                          Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-19 09:41 +0200
                            Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_ox7@4ieqo8ddusd3k1c8k.com - 2021-05-19 08:22 +0000
                              Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-19 10:28 +0200
                                Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_4t1542s@nz48t.gov - 2021-05-19 08:40 +0000
                                  Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-19 12:54 +0200
                                    Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_2ur@t65zb.com - 2021-05-19 11:08 +0000
                                      Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-19 13:11 +0200
                                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_a9r7@vdgtzl3x.gov.uk - 2021-05-19 11:19 +0000
                                          Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-19 13:33 +0200
                                            Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_of0j0vqHff@bap.com - 2021-05-19 13:29 +0000
                                              Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-19 16:17 +0200
                                                Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_83b6en@o2cr9.ac.uk - 2021-05-19 14:57 +0000
                                                  Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-19 17:49 +0200
                                                    Re: Niuce C++14-feature scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-05-19 17:41 +0000
                                                      Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-19 19:55 +0200
                                                      Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-19 14:02 -0700
                                                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-05-19 21:06 +0000
                                                          Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-19 14:12 -0700
                                                            Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-19 14:13 -0700
                                                      Re: Niuce C++14-feature Manfred <noname@add.invalid> - 2021-05-20 12:16 +0200
                                                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-20 12:31 +0200
                                                          Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-20 12:33 +0200
                                                            Re: Niuce C++14-feature Manfred <noname@add.invalid> - 2021-05-20 18:37 +0200
                                                            Re: Niuce C++14-feature James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2021-05-20 13:10 -0400
                                                              Re: Niuce C++14-feature scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-05-20 17:56 +0000
                                                              Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-20 20:26 +0200
                                                                Re: Niuce C++14-feature "james...@alumni.caltech.edu" <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2021-05-20 19:50 -0700
                                                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-05-20 14:35 +0000
                                            Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-19 13:54 -0700
                                              Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-19 13:58 -0700
                      Re: Niuce C++14-feature David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2021-05-19 11:16 +0200
                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_V1@aikd06tg1ez2i6hqi9.com - 2021-05-19 09:29 +0000
                          Re: Niuce C++14-feature Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2021-05-19 13:36 +0300
                            Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-19 12:56 +0200
                            Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_w5c@g2nz1m_2f4r2g8wqvgfd.co.uk - 2021-05-19 11:07 +0000
                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2021-05-19 10:34 -0400
                          Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_g1@mpi.com - 2021-05-19 14:55 +0000
                            Re: Niuce C++14-feature Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc> - 2021-05-19 16:15 +0000
                              Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_uc82glu@4o0o4n889yatl8.ac.uk - 2021-05-20 08:19 +0000
                                Re: Niuce C++14-feature Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc> - 2021-05-20 17:46 +0000
                                  Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_mm9v3kgmmm@7_o9.co.uk - 2021-05-21 09:19 +0000
                    Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-18 17:56 +0200
                      Re: Niuce C++14-feature Manfred <noname@add.invalid> - 2021-05-18 20:03 +0200
                      Re: Niuce C++14-feature MrSpook_fDx9@a3i3cdf7_.info - 2021-05-19 07:27 +0000
                        Re: Niuce C++14-feature Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2021-05-19 09:41 +0200
    Re: Niuce C++14-feature "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-05-18 15:14 -0700

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#79538

FromMrSpook_rtfm7b8w@g403t8gw2b59awtit.tv
Date2021-05-17 14:54 +0000
Message-ID<s7u03d$uma$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#79531
On Mon, 17 May 2021 14:02:14 +0000 (UTC)
Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> wrote:
>MrSpook_gT9q@x057vr3tuoe9s_ht3c.net wrote:
>>>If you act like an asshole, then expect to be treated like an asshole,
>>>fucking asshole.
>> 
>> Its spelt arsehole except in the american dialect since they can't tell
>> the difference between their backsides and a type of donkey.
>
>Just go wank whatever language you think is better, asshole.

Oh dear, is it your time of the month buttercup? :)

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#79524

FromKeith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com>
Date2021-05-17 10:37 -0700
Message-ID<87h7j18dn6.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com>
In reply to#79516
Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> writes:
> MrSpook_sey@tad.gov.uk wrote:
>> Another solution looking for a problem and (as usual with C++) an ugly
>> hack to make it work. What a surprise. Not.
>
> Are you in the habit of going to the forums of different kinds of topics,
> like programming languages, and acting like an asshole?
>
> If you don't like the language, then don't use it. It's that simple.
> You can just go and fuck off. Go wank to whatever other language you think
> is so much better.

Juha, I've just added "MrSpook" to my killfile.  I'm seriously
considering adding you as well.  Please knock it off.

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com
Working, but not speaking, for Philips Healthcare
void Void(void) { Void(); } /* The recursive call of the void */

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#79550

FromJuha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid>
Date2021-05-18 06:47 +0000
Message-ID<s7vnu7$1c6p$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#79524
Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> wrote:
> Juha, I've just added "MrSpook" to my killfile.  I'm seriously
> considering adding you as well.  Please knock it off.

I have been using Usenet since about 1995, and to this day I seriously
cannot understand the motivation for killfiles. I'm being completely
serious here. What exactly do you gain from them?

Even when you add people to your killfile you are going to see their
posts anyway, because people respond to them and quote them. It will
break threads and make them disjointed. You are most probably going to
ignore such threads anyway, so what's the point in the killfile?

This especially so nowadays, when Usenet is almost dead. Perhaps back
in the day when a Usenet group like this one got literally thousands
and thousands of posts every day, maybe the killfile would reduce the
amount of posts somewhat, by hiding the posts of certain individuals.
Nowadays, however, Usenet is almost completely dead, and even the still
most popular groups get maybe half a dozen posts per day... on busy days.

What would you gain from adding eg. me to your killfile? I'm asking
seriously. You want to hide all of my posts from your view because I threw
insults at someone in one single random thread? Why? What exactly do you
gain from this?

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#79551

FromMrSpook_w2uom3_k07@47j.ac.uk
Date2021-05-18 07:30 +0000
Message-ID<s7vqfh$f81$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#79550
On Tue, 18 May 2021 06:47:37 +0000 (UTC)
Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> wrote:
>Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Juha, I've just added "MrSpook" to my killfile.  I'm seriously
>> considering adding you as well.  Please knock it off.
>What would you gain from adding eg. me to your killfile? I'm asking
>seriously. You want to hide all of my posts from your view because I threw
>insults at someone in one single random thread? Why? What exactly do you
>gain from this?

Wow, talk about a total lack of self awareness. You decided to pick a fight
just because I criticised an aspect of C++ and now you're whining because 
someone got sick of your potty mouth? Pathetic.

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#79553

FromJuha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid>
Date2021-05-18 10:31 +0000
Message-ID<s8052a$1ibj$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#79551
MrSpook_w2uom3_k07@47j.ac.uk wrote:
> Wow, talk about a total lack of self awareness. You decided to pick a fight
> just because I criticised an aspect of C++ and now you're whining because 
> someone got sick of your potty mouth? Pathetic.

Just fuck off, asshole. As an asshole, you can't spout anything but shit.

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#79556

FromMrSpook_axe6hb@rq6ypc_knzvwr9.ac.uk
Date2021-05-18 15:11 +0000
Message-ID<s80lfs$9cd$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#79553
On Tue, 18 May 2021 10:31:40 +0000 (UTC)
Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> wrote:
>MrSpook_w2uom3_k07@47j.ac.uk wrote:
>> Wow, talk about a total lack of self awareness. You decided to pick a fight
>> just because I criticised an aspect of C++ and now you're whining because 
>> someone got sick of your potty mouth? Pathetic.
>
>Just fuck off, asshole. As an asshole, you can't spout anything but shit.

Are you having some kind of mental breakdown? 

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#79577

FromKeith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com>
Date2021-05-18 16:57 -0700
Message-ID<878s4b8ujc.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com>
In reply to#79553
Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> writes:
> MrSpook_w2uom3_k07@47j.ac.uk wrote:
>> Wow, talk about a total lack of self awareness. You decided to pick a fight
>> just because I criticised an aspect of C++ and now you're whining because 
>> someone got sick of your potty mouth? Pathetic.
>
> Just fuck off, asshole. As an asshole, you can't spout anything but shit.

As promised, PLONK.

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com
Working, but not speaking, for Philips Healthcare
void Void(void) { Void(); } /* The recursive call of the void */

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#79585

FromJuha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid>
Date2021-05-19 04:53 +0000
Message-ID<s825km$15hr$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#79577
Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> wrote:
> Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> writes:
>> MrSpook_w2uom3_k07@47j.ac.uk wrote:
>>> Wow, talk about a total lack of self awareness. You decided to pick a fight
>>> just because I criticised an aspect of C++ and now you're whining because 
>>> someone got sick of your potty mouth? Pathetic.
>>
>> Just fuck off, asshole. As an asshole, you can't spout anything but shit.
> 
> As promised, PLONK.

Yeah, seriously, I honestly cannot understand why. What is it to be gained
from it? Usenet is almost dead already, so adding people to a killfile is
only making it deader.

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#79554

FromBen Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk>
Date2021-05-18 13:08 +0100
Message-ID<87a6os1bxw.fsf@bsb.me.uk>
In reply to#79550
Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> writes:

> Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Juha, I've just added "MrSpook" to my killfile.  I'm seriously
>> considering adding you as well.  Please knock it off.
>
> I have been using Usenet since about 1995, and to this day I seriously
> cannot understand the motivation for killfiles. I'm being completely
> serious here. What exactly do you gain from them?

I use GNUS (I think Keith does too) and while it has a kill file, it
also has a flexible scoring system.  The score can be based on all sorts
of criteria like who the poster is, the number of cross-postings, the
thread it's in, who it is in reply to and so on.  I can then have
low-scoring posts marked as read, greyed-out but still shown in the
thread tree.  I can see at a glance, when opening a group, if it's all
troll posts and replies to such.

> Even when you add people to your killfile you are going to see their
> posts anyway, because people respond to them and quote them.

GNUS can even score based on quoted material, but that's a bit more
costly.  You can always score down people who quote troll posts, and if
you pick a score that requires another factor to make the post "vanish"
you will still see the quoter's posts in other contexts.

> It will
> break threads and make them disjointed. You are most probably going to
> ignore such threads anyway, so what's the point in the killfile?
>
> This especially so nowadays, when Usenet is almost dead. Perhaps back
> in the day when a Usenet group like this one got literally thousands
> and thousands of posts every day, maybe the killfile would reduce the
> amount of posts somewhat, by hiding the posts of certain individuals.
> Nowadays, however, Usenet is almost completely dead, and even the still
> most popular groups get maybe half a dozen posts per day... on busy
> days.

This is true.  GNUS was super efficient in those days.  It still let's
me read news fast, but the major advantage is dwindling.

-- 
Ben.

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#79555

FromManfred <noname@add.invalid>
Date2021-05-18 17:10 +0200
Message-ID<s80lch$7p3$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#79550
On 5/18/2021 8:47 AM, Juha Nieminen wrote:
> Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Juha, I've just added "MrSpook" to my killfile.  I'm seriously
>> considering adding you as well.  Please knock it off.
> 
> I have been using Usenet since about 1995, and to this day I seriously
> cannot understand the motivation for killfiles. I'm being completely
> serious here. What exactly do you gain from them?

Killfiles are vital to Usenet. The main reason it is almost dead today 
is because of compulsive trolls flooding this space with their nonsense. 
The strongest feature of Usenet is freedom, but from the perspective of 
such trolls it is its deepest weakness.
Killfiles, especially the good ones, are a sensible defense against that 
- they are what keeps what's left of Usenet alive, literally.

> 
> Even when you add people to your killfile you are going to see their
> posts anyway, because people respond to them and quote them. It will
> break threads and make them disjointed. You are most probably going to
> ignore such threads anyway, so what's the point in the killfile?

Good killfiles are able to follow threads and kill replies too - the 
main defect I see today is with google groups (again) because it manages 
a.o. to disrupt thread continuity, but luckily a lot of threads get 
handled properly.

> 
> This especially so nowadays, when Usenet is almost dead. Perhaps back
> in the day when a Usenet group like this one got literally thousands
> and thousands of posts every day, maybe the killfile would reduce the
> amount of posts somewhat, by hiding the posts of certain individuals.
> Nowadays, however, Usenet is almost completely dead, and even the still
> most popular groups get maybe half a dozen posts per day... on busy days.

Even if it is (unfortunately) almost dead, why push the trend?

> 
> What would you gain from adding eg. me to your killfile? I'm asking
> seriously. You want to hide all of my posts from your view because I threw
> insults at someone in one single random thread? Why? What exactly do you
> gain from this?
> 

Not you specifically, since this is probably one of the first 
occurrences, but in general it is about reducing noise, obviously 
disturbing noise.

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#79560

FromJames Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu>
Date2021-05-18 11:56 -0400
Message-ID<s80o2i$337$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#79550
On 5/18/21 2:47 AM, Juha Nieminen wrote:
> Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Juha, I've just added "MrSpook" to my killfile.  I'm seriously
>> considering adding you as well.  Please knock it off.
> 
> I have been using Usenet since about 1995, and to this day I seriously
> cannot understand the motivation for killfiles. I'm being completely
> serious here. What exactly do you gain from them?
> 
> Even when you add people to your killfile you are going to see their
> posts anyway, because people respond to them and quote them. ...

True, but you'll see fewer of them. In many cases, I'll miss most or
even all of an entire conversation because I have everyone participating
in it in my killfile.

> ... It will
> break threads and make them disjointed. ...

If I see a broken thread, the simple fact that it's broken suggests that
one of the participants is in my killfile, making its somewhat easier to
quickly identify the thread as one to be ignored. In particular, I
occasionally have trouble remembering some people who have been in my
killfile for a long time, but I'm still protected from them, because my
newsreader has more reliable memory than I do.

> ... You are most probably going to
> ignore such threads anyway, so what's the point in the killfile?
> 
> This especially so nowadays, when Usenet is almost dead. Perhaps back
> in the day when a Usenet group like this one got literally thousands
> and thousands of posts every day,

Back in August 2011, when Google was still providing statistics about
newsgroup participation, I responded to a message claiming that
comp.lang.c was dead:

[I wrote:]
> According to Google Groups:
> <https://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.c/about?hl=en>
> this group hit a peak of 7444 messages per month in October 1997, and
> has slowly but erratically gone downhill since then. Key point:
> "slowly". As recently as June, there were 2069 messages posted in a
> single month. Don't pay too much attention to the July and August
> numbers; something has been going wrong with Google Groups for the past
> several weeks.

I can't check to verify this anymore, but I seem to recall that
comp.lang.c++ generally had somewhat lower message counts than
comp.lang.c, so I don't think it has ever been as high as "thousands per
day". Those kinds of numbers only happened for newsgroups catering to
large and active fan groups. For example, I remember seeing huge counts
in 2001 for alt.tv.buffy-v-slayer.

[Juha wrote:]
> What would you gain from adding eg. me to your killfile? I'm asking
> seriously. You want to hide all of my posts from your view because I threw
> insults at someone in one single random thread? Why? What exactly do you
> gain from this?

I can't speak for Keith, but I doubt that he's responding to just this
recent series of messages. I have noticed a tendency for you to get into
uninteresting insult matches with people who, admittedly, deserve the
insults - but I'm not interested in seeing those insults. If Keith
decides to put you in his killfile, he'll spend less time reading those
insults, and I wouldn't be surprised if that's what he hopes to gain
from doing that.

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#79576

FromKeith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com>
Date2021-05-18 16:56 -0700
Message-ID<87cztn8ukl.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com>
In reply to#79550
Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> writes:
> Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Juha, I've just added "MrSpook" to my killfile.  I'm seriously
>> considering adding you as well.  Please knock it off.
>
> I have been using Usenet since about 1995, and to this day I seriously
> cannot understand the motivation for killfiles. I'm being completely
> serious here. What exactly do you gain from them?
>
> Even when you add people to your killfile you are going to see their
> posts anyway, because people respond to them and quote them. It will
> break threads and make them disjointed. You are most probably going to
> ignore such threads anyway, so what's the point in the killfile?
>
> This especially so nowadays, when Usenet is almost dead. Perhaps back
> in the day when a Usenet group like this one got literally thousands
> and thousands of posts every day, maybe the killfile would reduce the
> amount of posts somewhat, by hiding the posts of certain individuals.
> Nowadays, however, Usenet is almost completely dead, and even the still
> most popular groups get maybe half a dozen posts per day... on busy days.
>
> What would you gain from adding eg. me to your killfile? I'm asking
> seriously. You want to hide all of my posts from your view because I threw
> insults at someone in one single random thread? Why? What exactly do you
> gain from this?

What I gain is not seeing any more of your posts, with a resulting
improvement in the signal-to-noise ratio of my view of the newsgroup.

Another possible gain is that I let you know that your behavior is
unacceptable.  Repeatedly insulting a troll just adds useless noise.

The cost, of course, is that I won't see any useful articles that you
post.  That's a price I'm willing to pay.

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com
Working, but not speaking, for Philips Healthcare
void Void(void) { Void(); } /* The recursive call of the void */

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#79586

From"Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com>
Date2021-05-18 22:05 -0700
Message-ID<s826b3$1c55$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#79576
On 5/18/2021 10:02 PM, Juha Nieminen wrote:
> Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> wrote:
>> What I gain is not seeing any more of your posts, with a resulting
>> improvement in the signal-to-noise ratio of my view of the newsgroup.
> 
> Of an almost dead newsgroup at that.
> 
>> Another possible gain is that I let you know that your behavior is
>> unacceptable.  Repeatedly insulting a troll just adds useless noise.
> 
> Repeatedly insulting an asshole is not going to take a severe amount
> of seconds of your busy life. You can simply ignore those messages.
> I think calling an asshole an asshole is worth the effort. It makes
> him waste time responding to those insults. Trolling trolls back is
> wasting the troll's time.

Well, feeding any troll with anything negative just might make it feel 
stronger? Think of a troll as a prototype for the proverbial Cruel Puppet:

https://www.thezorklibrary.com/history/cruel_puppet.html

Fair enough?


> 
> On that note, I honestly could not care less what you personally
> find "unacceptable" on usenet. Usenet is a cesspool anyway, and has
> always been. There is no moderation, and that's probably one of the
> reasons why it's almost dead and the vast majority of companies and
> service providers have dropped support.
> 

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#79606

FromJuha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid>
Date2021-05-19 12:01 +0000
Message-ID<s82umu$a32$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#79586
Chris M. Thomasson <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well, feeding any troll with anything negative just might make it feel 
> stronger? Think of a troll as a prototype for the proverbial Cruel Puppet:
> 
> https://www.thezorklibrary.com/history/cruel_puppet.html
> 
> Fair enough?

Ok, I'll stop.

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#79860

FromJuha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid>
Date2021-05-24 10:54 +0000
Message-ID<s8g0kh$61v$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#79606
Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> wrote:
> Chris M. Thomasson <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Well, feeding any troll with anything negative just might make it feel 
>> stronger? Think of a troll as a prototype for the proverbial Cruel Puppet:
>> 
>> https://www.thezorklibrary.com/history/cruel_puppet.html
>> 
>> Fair enough?
> 
> Ok, I'll stop.

They say "don't feed the troll". There seems to be plenty of feeding the
troll in this thread.

At least I restricted myself to merely insulting the troll.

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#79942

FromJames Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu>
Date2021-05-24 14:51 -0400
Message-ID<s8gsiv$ktm$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#79860
On 5/24/21 6:54 AM, Juha Nieminen wrote:
...
> They say "don't feed the troll". There seems to be plenty of feeding the
> troll in this thread.
> 
> At least I restricted myself to merely insulting the troll.

Paying attention to a troll, whether negative or positive, IS how you
feed them. They thrive on attention. They deliberately try to provoke
negative reactions, and enjoy them.

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#79587

FromJuha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid>
Date2021-05-19 05:02 +0000
Message-ID<s82648$1bv0$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#79576
Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> wrote:
> What I gain is not seeing any more of your posts, with a resulting
> improvement in the signal-to-noise ratio of my view of the newsgroup.

Of an almost dead newsgroup at that.

> Another possible gain is that I let you know that your behavior is
> unacceptable.  Repeatedly insulting a troll just adds useless noise.

Repeatedly insulting an asshole is not going to take a severe amount
of seconds of your busy life. You can simply ignore those messages.
I think calling an asshole an asshole is worth the effort. It makes
him waste time responding to those insults. Trolling trolls back is
wasting the troll's time.

On that note, I honestly could not care less what you personally
find "unacceptable" on usenet. Usenet is a cesspool anyway, and has
always been. There is no moderation, and that's probably one of the
reasons why it's almost dead and the vast majority of companies and
service providers have dropped support.

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#79629

FromJames Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu>
Date2021-05-19 10:07 -0400
Message-ID<s8363r$f8d$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#79587
On 5/19/21 1:02 AM, Juha Nieminen wrote:
> Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> wrote:
>> What I gain is not seeing any more of your posts, with a resulting
>> improvement in the signal-to-noise ratio of my view of the newsgroup.
> 
> Of an almost dead newsgroup at that.

Google no longer provides message counts by newsgroup in any place I
could easily find. However, dozens of threads have had hundreds of
messages added to them in this newsgroup during this month alone. That's
less than the peak activity level for this newsgroup, but it's not
enormously smaller than that peak, either.
I will grant you that most of those messages were posted by people I've
got killfiled - the number of messages worth reading is much smaller
than the number posted - but that's always been the case.

> On that note, I honestly could not care less what you personally
> find "unacceptable" on usenet.

Why should that matter? Keith's killfile is for Keith, not you. If he
finds your behavior unacceptable, then that's all the justification HE
needs for making sure that he no longer sees it.

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#79631

FromManfred <noname@add.invalid>
Date2021-05-19 15:16 +0200
Message-ID<s83347$ens$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#79587
On 5/19/2021 7:02 AM, Juha Nieminen wrote:
> Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> wrote:
>> What I gain is not seeing any more of your posts, with a resulting
>> improvement in the signal-to-noise ratio of my view of the newsgroup.
> 
> Of an almost dead newsgroup at that.

And then why do you post here?

> 
>> Another possible gain is that I let you know that your behavior is
>> unacceptable.  Repeatedly insulting a troll just adds useless noise.
> 
> Repeatedly insulting an asshole is not going to take a severe amount
> of seconds of your busy life. You can simply ignore those messages.
> I think calling an asshole an asshole is worth the effort. It makes
> him waste time responding to those insults. Trolling trolls back is
> wasting the troll's time.
> 
> On that note, I honestly could not care less what you personally
> find "unacceptable" on usenet. Usenet is a cesspool anyway, and has
> always been. There is no moderation, and that's probably one of the
> reasons why it's almost dead and the vast majority of companies and
> service providers have dropped support.
> 

You know that your recent deliberately insulting posts would have been 
blocked by any decent moderator, right?

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#79591

FromSpud@nowheresville.org
Date2021-05-19 07:19 +0000
Message-ID<s82e6j$eak$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#79576
On Tue, 18 May 2021 16:56:42 -0700
Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> wrote:
>Another possible gain is that I let you know that your behavior is
>unacceptable.  Repeatedly insulting a troll just adds useless noise.

I'm curious as to why you think someone criticising an aspect of C++ 
is trolling. If this forum is merely to praise how wonderful the language
is to its acolytes then what purpose does it serve?

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