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| Started by | unclebob <unclebob@localhost.unclebob> |
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| First post | 2011-12-23 18:32 -0500 |
| Last post | 2011-12-28 12:28 -0800 |
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about software name... unclebob <unclebob@localhost.unclebob> - 2011-12-23 18:32 -0500
Re: about software name... Victor Bazarov <v.bazarov@comcast.invalid> - 2011-12-24 08:58 -0500
Re: about software name... Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2011-12-25 15:57 +0000
Re: about software name... Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> - 2011-12-26 11:05 +0900
Re: about software name... BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-12-25 21:55 -0700
Re: about software name... Paul N <gw7rib@aol.com> - 2011-12-28 12:28 -0800
| From | unclebob <unclebob@localhost.unclebob> |
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| Date | 2011-12-23 18:32 -0500 |
| Subject | about software name... |
| Message-ID | <jd32vc$acl$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
hi , sorry , it's not related to c++ lang directly, but c++ is related to my project :-) , so maybe someone will be so kind to answer this... I'm about to start open source project and I've chosen a name. Looks like it's not used anywhere. how do I make sure I have all rights to this name? is it enough to create web site and announce the start of this project? I don't have money to pay for trademarks,of course... thanks.
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| From | Victor Bazarov <v.bazarov@comcast.invalid> |
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| Date | 2011-12-24 08:58 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <jd4lq9$knq$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #12777 |
On 12/23/2011 6:32 PM, unclebob wrote: > sorry , it's not related to c++ lang directly, but c++ is related to my > project :-) , so maybe someone will be so kind to answer this... > > I'm about to start open source project and I've chosen a name. Looks > like it's not used anywhere. > how do I make sure I have all rights to this name? > is it enough to create web site and announce the start of this project? Find a newsgroup with the word "legal" in its name. IANAL, but from what I understand as soon as you publish the name, it's yours. Copyright law is based on "de facto" rights, not on any kind of "registeration". You might want to assert the copyright on the same page by stating your name and a way to contact you. V -- I do not respond to top-posted replies, please don't ask
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| From | Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> |
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| Date | 2011-12-25 15:57 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnjfehv0.1ls.grahn+nntp@frailea.sa.invalid> |
| In reply to | #12777 |
On Fri, 2011-12-23, unclebob wrote: > hi , > sorry , it's not related to c++ lang directly, but c++ is related to my > project :-) , so maybe someone will be so kind to answer this... > > I'm about to start open source project and I've chosen a name. Looks > like it's not used anywhere. > how do I make sure I have all rights to this name? > is it enough to create web site and announce the start of this project? Better to publish it on sites like github and freshmeat.net, so others can find it more easily. I don't know if your worries are justified or not, but this at least helps against accidental naming problems (it's where /I/ would look for conflicting names). ./Jorgen -- // Jorgen Grahn <grahn@ Oo o. . . \X/ snipabacken.se> O o .
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| From | Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> |
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| Date | 2011-12-26 11:05 +0900 |
| Message-ID | <878vm0t7dh.fsf@catnip.gol.com> |
| In reply to | #12809 |
Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> writes: >> sorry , it's not related to c++ lang directly, but c++ is related to my >> project :-) , so maybe someone will be so kind to answer this... >> >> I'm about to start open source project and I've chosen a name. Looks >> like it's not used anywhere. >> how do I make sure I have all rights to this name? >> is it enough to create web site and announce the start of this project? > > Better to publish it on sites like github and freshmeat.net, so others > can find it more easily. > > I don't know if your worries are justified or not, but this at least > helps against accidental naming problems (it's where /I/ would look > for conflicting names). In general it's kind of a hard problem, because most single sites or other sources of info -- e.g. debian package names -- tend to reflect certain communities, so to be realllly sure, you need to check quite a few places. [and then you discover the awful true: all names have already been used ... :] --miles - Infancy, n. The period of our lives when, according to Wordsworth, 'Heaven lies about us.' The world begins lying about us pretty soon afterward.
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| From | BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2011-12-25 21:55 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <jd8un7$l7j$1@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #12811 |
On 12/25/2011 7:05 PM, Miles Bader wrote: > Jorgen Grahn<grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> writes: >>> sorry , it's not related to c++ lang directly, but c++ is related to my >>> project :-) , so maybe someone will be so kind to answer this... >>> >>> I'm about to start open source project and I've chosen a name. Looks >>> like it's not used anywhere. >>> how do I make sure I have all rights to this name? >>> is it enough to create web site and announce the start of this project? >> >> Better to publish it on sites like github and freshmeat.net, so others >> can find it more easily. >> >> I don't know if your worries are justified or not, but this at least >> helps against accidental naming problems (it's where /I/ would look >> for conflicting names). > > In general it's kind of a hard problem, because most single sites or > other sources of info -- e.g. debian package names -- tend to reflect > certain communities, so to be realllly sure, you need to check quite a > few places. > > [and then you discover the awful true: all names have already been used > ... :] > yeah, it is like trying to find an unused TLA (Three Letter Acronym) or FLA (Four Letter Acronym). it is all a bit hit or miss... by the time one has 5 or 6 letters, it is a bit easier. single words or short strings of words are similarly awkward.
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| From | Paul N <gw7rib@aol.com> |
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| Date | 2011-12-28 12:28 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <5dbd9d23-4a2e-4757-b281-b17ed9e5ac8a@d10g2000vbh.googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #12777 |
On Dec 23, 11:32 pm, unclebob <uncle...@localhost.unclebob> wrote: > hi , > sorry , it's not related to c++ lang directly, but c++ is related to my > project :-) , so maybe someone will be so kind to answer this... > > I'm about to start open source project and I've chosen a name. Looks > like it's not used anywhere. > how do I make sure I have all rights to this name? > is it enough to create web site and announce the start of this project? > > I don't have money to pay for trademarks,of course... > thanks. You can't do much without paying any money. Obviously try typing the name into Google and see if anything comes up. You could also do a quick check whether anyone has a registered trademark for the name - try http://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/basics/ for in the US (click on "search marks") and try http://www.ipo.gov.uk/tm/t-find/t-find-text/ for the UK. If you start using the name then you get some rights to it automatically, but these can be trumped by anyone who was using, or had registered, the name before you.
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