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C++ named requirements as concepts

Started byjseigh <jseigh_es00@xemaps.com>
First post2024-09-21 15:43 -0400
Last post2024-09-25 15:23 -0400
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  C++ named requirements as concepts jseigh <jseigh_es00@xemaps.com> - 2024-09-21 15:43 -0400
    Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-09-22 08:06 +0000
      Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-22 10:45 +0200
        Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-09-22 08:59 +0000
          Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-22 11:03 +0200
            Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-09-22 09:08 +0000
              Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-22 11:51 +0200
                Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-09-22 15:15 +0000
                  Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-22 17:33 +0200
                    Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-09-23 07:39 +0000
                      Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-23 10:54 +0200
                        Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-09-23 09:32 +0000
                          Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-23 11:45 +0200
                            Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-09-23 13:56 +0000
                              Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-23 16:00 +0200
                                Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-09-23 14:03 +0000
                        Re: C++ named requirements as concepts scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-09-23 15:48 +0000
                          Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-23 17:52 +0200
                      Re: C++ named requirements as concepts scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-09-23 15:47 +0000
                        Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-23 17:53 +0200
                        Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-09-24 07:20 +0000
                          Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-24 09:33 +0200
                            Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-09-24 08:11 +0000
                              Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-24 11:17 +0200
                                Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-24 11:46 +0200
                                  Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-09-24 10:52 +0000
                                    Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-24 12:54 +0200
                                      Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-09-24 10:59 +0000
                                        Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-24 13:05 +0200
                                          Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-09-24 11:07 +0000
                                            Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-24 13:21 +0200
                                              Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-09-24 13:51 +0000
                                                Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-24 15:56 +0200
                                                  Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-09-24 15:43 +0000
                                                    Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-24 17:48 +0200
                                                      Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-09-25 07:19 +0000
                                                        Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-25 11:30 +0200
                                                    Re: C++ named requirements as concepts David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-09-25 09:49 +0200
                                                      Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-09-25 08:24 +0000
                                                        Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-25 11:32 +0200
                                                          Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-09-25 11:15 +0000
                                                            Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-25 13:30 +0200
                                                              Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-09-25 12:43 +0000
                                                                Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-25 14:50 +0200
                                                            Re: C++ named requirements as concepts David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-09-25 14:00 +0200
                                                              Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-09-25 12:47 +0000
                                                                Re: C++ named requirements as concepts David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-09-25 15:00 +0200
                                                                  Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-09-25 13:22 +0000
                                                                    Re: C++ named requirements as concepts David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-09-25 17:12 +0200
                                                                      Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-09-25 15:35 +0000
                                                                        Re: C++ named requirements as concepts David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-09-25 19:19 +0200
                                                                          Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-09-26 07:36 +0000
                                                        Re: C++ named requirements as concepts David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-09-25 11:36 +0200
                                                        Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-25 13:11 +0300
                                                          Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-25 13:31 +0300
                                                            Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Paavo Helde <eesnimi@osa.pri.ee> - 2024-09-25 13:52 +0300
                                                              Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-25 14:06 +0300
                                                                Re: C++ named requirements as concepts David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-09-25 14:22 +0200
                                                          Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-09-25 11:12 +0000
                                                            Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-25 14:30 +0300
                                                              Re: C++ named requirements as concepts David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-09-25 14:34 +0200
                                                                Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-25 14:38 +0200
                                                                  Re: C++ named requirements as concepts David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-09-25 15:01 +0200
                                                              Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-09-25 12:40 +0000
                                                          Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-25 13:23 +0200
                                                          Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-25 13:33 +0200
                                                            Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-25 14:38 +0300
                                                              Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-25 13:45 +0200
                                                                Re: C++ named requirements as concepts David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-09-25 14:36 +0200
                                                                  Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-25 14:39 +0200
                                                                    Re: C++ named requirements as concepts David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-09-25 15:04 +0200
                                                                      Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-25 17:14 +0300
                                                                        Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-25 16:23 +0200
                                                                          Re: C++ named requirements as concepts David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-09-25 17:18 +0200
                                                                            Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-25 17:26 +0200
                                                                        Re: C++ named requirements as concepts David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-09-25 17:14 +0200
                                                                        Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Paavo Helde <eesnimi@osa.pri.ee> - 2024-09-25 21:24 +0300
                                                                          Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-25 20:37 +0200
                                                          Re: C++ named requirements as concepts David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-09-25 13:49 +0200
                                                            Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-25 14:03 +0200
                                                              Re: C++ named requirements as concepts David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-09-25 14:38 +0200
                                                            Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-25 15:17 +0300
                                                              Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Paavo Helde <eesnimi@osa.pri.ee> - 2024-09-25 15:49 +0300
                                                                Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-25 14:52 +0200
                                                                Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-09-25 12:55 +0000
                                                                  Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-25 15:08 +0200
                                                                    Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-09-25 13:24 +0000
                                                                      Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-25 15:28 +0200
                                                                        Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-09-25 13:36 +0000
                                                                          Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-25 15:44 +0200
                                                                            Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-09-25 14:11 +0000
                                                                              Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-25 16:14 +0200
                                                                                Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-09-25 15:32 +0000
                                                                                  Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-25 17:33 +0200
                                                                                    Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-09-25 15:49 +0000
                                                                                      Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-25 17:53 +0200
                                                                                        Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-09-26 07:34 +0000
                                                                                          Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-26 10:20 +0200
                                                                                            Re: C++ named requirements as concepts wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2024-09-26 16:46 +0800
                                                                                              Re: C++ named requirements as concepts wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2024-09-26 16:51 +0800
                                                                                              Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-26 11:20 +0200
                                                                                                Re: C++ named requirements as concepts wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2024-09-26 19:17 +0800
                                                                                                Re: C++ named requirements as concepts wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2024-09-26 19:27 +0800
                                                                                                  Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-26 13:32 +0200
                                                                                              Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-26 12:23 +0300
                                                                                                Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-26 11:25 +0200
                                                                                                Re: C++ named requirements as concepts wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2024-09-26 19:20 +0800
                                                                                            Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-09-26 10:03 +0000
                                                                                              Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-26 13:33 +0200
                                                                                                Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-09-26 14:09 +0000
                                                                                              Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-26 16:14 +0200
                                                                                      Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-09-27 02:27 -0700
                                                                                        Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-09-27 11:11 +0000
                                                                                          Re: C++ named requirements as concepts David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-09-27 16:14 +0200
                                                                                            Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-09-27 15:25 +0000
                                                                                              Re: C++ named requirements as concepts David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-09-27 18:24 +0200
                                                                                                Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-09-28 09:12 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: C++ named requirements as concepts David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-09-28 17:33 +0200
                                                                                                    Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-09-28 15:47 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: C++ named requirements as concepts David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-09-29 13:41 +0200
                                                                                                        Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-29 13:48 +0200
                                                                                                        Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-29 14:49 +0300
                                                                                                          Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-09-29 11:23 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@DastartdlyHQ.com - 2024-09-30 07:26 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@DastartdlyHQ.org - 2024-09-30 07:40 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: C++ named requirements as concepts David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-09-30 12:24 +0200
                                                                                                                Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@DastartdlyHQ.org - 2024-09-30 15:47 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-30 17:58 +0200
                                                                                                            Re: C++ named requirements as concepts David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-09-30 10:57 +0200
                                                                                                          Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-09-30 05:29 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-30 14:34 +0200
                                                                                                          Re: C++ named requirements as concepts David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-09-30 15:21 +0200
                                                                                                            Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@DastartdlyHQ.org - 2024-09-30 16:00 +0000
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                                                                                                              Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-30 19:43 +0300
                                                                                                                Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@DastartdlyHQ.org - 2024-10-01 07:31 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-01 11:01 +0300
                                                                                                                    Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-10-01 10:06 +0200
                                                                                                                      Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@DastartdlyHQ.org - 2024-10-01 09:58 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-10-01 12:58 +0200
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                                                                                                                            Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-10-01 19:43 +0200
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                                                                                                                                Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-10-02 09:34 +0200
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                                                                                                              Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-09-30 10:18 -0700
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                                                                                                              Re: C++ named requirements as concepts David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-09-30 19:51 +0200
                                                                                                                Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@DastartdlyHQ.org - 2024-10-01 07:36 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-10-01 10:00 +0200
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                                                                                                                      Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-01 12:53 +0300
                                                                                                                        Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@DastartdlyHQ.org - 2024-10-01 10:02 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-01 13:11 +0300
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                                                                                                                                Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-10-01 20:06 -0700
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                                                                                                                                                    Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-10-11 04:58 -0700
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                                                                                                                                                Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-10-12 08:18 -0700
                                                                                                                                            Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-10-11 03:57 -0700
                                                                                                                                        Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-10-07 19:19 +0200
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                                                                                                                        Re: C++ named requirements as concepts David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-10-01 13:08 +0200
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                                                                                                                            Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-10-01 19:44 +0200
                                                                                                                    Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@DastartdlyHQ.org - 2024-10-01 09:56 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-10-01 13:01 +0200
                                                                                                        Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-09-29 15:00 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-29 14:37 +0300
                                                                                                      Re: C++ named requirements as concepts David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-09-29 15:42 +0200
                                                                                                        Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-29 15:47 +0200
                                                                                          Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-09-28 04:28 -0700
                                                                                            Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-09-28 13:55 +0000
                                                                                Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-09-25 15:33 +0000
                                                                              Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-25 17:16 +0300
                                                                  Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Paavo Helde <eesnimi@osa.pri.ee> - 2024-09-25 16:22 +0300
                                                                    Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-09-25 13:34 +0000
                                                                      Re: C++ named requirements as concepts David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-09-25 17:27 +0200
                                                                      Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Paavo Helde <eesnimi@osa.pri.ee> - 2024-09-25 22:37 +0300
                                                                        Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-09-26 07:38 +0000
                                                                          Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-26 10:21 +0200
                                                                            Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-09-26 10:03 +0000
                                                                              Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-26 13:29 +0200
                                                                                Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-09-26 14:09 +0000
                                                                                  Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-26 16:17 +0200
                                                                Re: C++ named requirements as concepts David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-09-25 15:07 +0200
                                                                Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Andrey Tarasevich <andreytarasevich@hotmail.com> - 2024-09-26 18:22 -0700
                                                              Re: C++ named requirements as concepts David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-09-25 14:58 +0200
                                                                Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-25 15:19 +0200
                                              Re: C++ named requirements as concepts "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-09-24 13:55 -0700
                                Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-09-24 10:50 +0000
                                  Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-24 12:53 +0200
      Re: C++ named requirements as concepts jseigh <jseigh_es00@xemaps.com> - 2024-09-22 07:58 -0400
        Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-22 14:10 +0200
          Re: C++ named requirements as concepts jseigh <jseigh_es00@xemaps.com> - 2024-09-23 11:08 -0400
            Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-23 17:21 +0200
        Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-09-22 15:21 +0000
          Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-22 17:34 +0200
            Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-09-23 07:40 +0000
              Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-23 10:55 +0200
                Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-09-23 09:33 +0000
                  Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-23 11:46 +0200
                    Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-09-23 13:59 +0000
                      Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-23 16:02 +0200
                        Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-09-23 14:05 +0000
                          Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-23 16:10 +0200
                        Re: C++ named requirements as concepts "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-09-23 12:55 -0700
                          Re: C++ named requirements as concepts jseigh <jseigh_es00@xemaps.com> - 2024-09-23 16:24 -0400
                            Re: C++ named requirements as concepts "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-09-23 14:43 -0700
                              Re: C++ named requirements as concepts jseigh <jseigh_es00@xemaps.com> - 2024-09-23 18:59 -0400
                                Re: C++ named requirements as concepts "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-09-23 16:06 -0700
                                  Re: C++ named requirements as concepts "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-09-23 16:10 -0700
                                Re: C++ named requirements as concepts jseigh <jseigh_es00@xemaps.com> - 2024-09-24 09:15 -0400
                            Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-09-24 07:23 +0000
                              Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-24 09:34 +0200
                                Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-09-24 08:14 +0000
                                  Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-24 11:18 +0200
                                Re: C++ named requirements as concepts jseigh <jseigh_es00@xemaps.com> - 2024-09-24 08:59 -0400
                                  Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-24 15:02 +0200
                                  Re: C++ named requirements as concepts "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-09-24 13:37 -0700
      Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Jack <noreply@mandrill.com> - 2024-09-23 00:15 +0000
        Re: C++ named requirements as concepts wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2024-09-23 08:48 +0800
    Re: C++ named requirements as concepts David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-09-22 11:46 +0200
      Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-22 13:35 +0200
    Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Andrey Tarasevich <andreytarasevich@hotmail.com> - 2024-09-22 11:43 -0700
      Re: C++ named requirements as concepts jseigh <jseigh_es00@xemaps.com> - 2024-09-22 17:00 -0400
        Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Andrey Tarasevich <andreytarasevich@hotmail.com> - 2024-09-22 14:50 -0700
          Re: C++ named requirements as concepts jseigh <jseigh_es00@xemaps.com> - 2024-09-23 10:32 -0400
          Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-23 16:55 +0200
            Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Andrey Tarasevich <andreytarasevich@hotmail.com> - 2024-09-23 08:11 -0700
              Re: C++ named requirements as concepts Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2024-09-24 08:24 +0200
    Re: C++ named requirements as concepts jseigh <jseigh_es00@xemaps.com> - 2024-09-25 15:23 -0400

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#120154 — C++ named requirements as concepts

Fromjseigh <jseigh_es00@xemaps.com>
Date2024-09-21 15:43 -0400
SubjectC++ named requirements as concepts
Message-ID<vcn7kn$1n3bh$2@dont-email.me>
Trying to come up to speed on C++ concepts. If they're are useful
why wouldn't they define named requirements as a concept, e.g.

template<typename T>
concept BasicLockable = requires(T a)
{
     { a.lock() } -> std::same_as<void>;
     { a.unlock() } -> std::same_as<void>;
};

template<BasicLockable T>
...

Also if I define some concept for use in function templates,
C++ doesn't like using primative types, just classes.
Regular templates don't have the problem but they
just seem to be glorified macros.

Joe Seigh

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#120162

FromMuttley@dastardlyhq.com
Date2024-09-22 08:06 +0000
Message-ID<vcoj72$24s5j$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#120154
On Sat, 21 Sep 2024 15:43:19 -0400
jseigh <jseigh_es00@xemaps.com> boringly babbled:
>Trying to come up to speed on C++ concepts. If they're are useful
>why wouldn't they define named requirements as a concept, e.g.

The signal to noise ratio of useful vs pointless features in recent versions
of C++ is not very good. All they're achieving is making the language so
bloody complicated that new devs take one look at irt and flee for the hills.
There's a reason Python - and to a lesser extent these days - Java are used
for teaching in univerisities now, not C++. And if you don't get them young
you can pretty much forget about getting many of the when they're older.

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#120163

FromBonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com>
Date2024-09-22 10:45 +0200
Message-ID<vcole8$257gb$1@raubtier-asyl.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#120162
Am 22.09.2024 um 10:06 schrieb Muttley@dastardlyhq.com:
> On Sat, 21 Sep 2024 15:43:19 -0400
> jseigh <jseigh_es00@xemaps.com> boringly babbled:
>> Trying to come up to speed on C++ concepts. If they're are useful
>> why wouldn't they define named requirements as a concept, e.g.
> 
> The signal to noise ratio of useful vs pointless features in recent versions
> of C++ is not very good. All they're achieving is making the language so
> bloody complicated that new devs take one look at irt and flee for the hills.

Concepts are a very easy to understand feature of C++20.

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#120165

FromMuttley@dastardlyhq.com
Date2024-09-22 08:59 +0000
Message-ID<vcom9t$25au8$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#120163
On Sun, 22 Sep 2024 10:45:01 +0200
Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> boringly babbled:
>Am 22.09.2024 um 10:06 schrieb Muttley@dastardlyhq.com:
>> On Sat, 21 Sep 2024 15:43:19 -0400
>> jseigh <jseigh_es00@xemaps.com> boringly babbled:
>>> Trying to come up to speed on C++ concepts. If they're are useful
>>> why wouldn't they define named requirements as a concept, e.g.
>> 
>> The signal to noise ratio of useful vs pointless features in recent versions
>> of C++ is not very good. All they're achieving is making the language so
>> bloody complicated that new devs take one look at irt and flee for the hills.
>
>
>Concepts are a very easy to understand feature of C++20.

They're also yet another solution looking for a problem that add another 
dollop of slop to the syntatic and semantic soup that is modern C++.

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#120167

FromBonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com>
Date2024-09-22 11:03 +0200
Message-ID<vcomgh$25c0d$1@raubtier-asyl.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#120165
Am 22.09.2024 um 10:59 schrieb Muttley@dastardlyhq.com:
> On Sun, 22 Sep 2024 10:45:01 +0200
> Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> boringly babbled:
>> Am 22.09.2024 um 10:06 schrieb Muttley@dastardlyhq.com:
>>> On Sat, 21 Sep 2024 15:43:19 -0400
>>> jseigh <jseigh_es00@xemaps.com> boringly babbled:
>>>> Trying to come up to speed on C++ concepts. If they're are useful
>>>> why wouldn't they define named requirements as a concept, e.g.
>>>
>>> The signal to noise ratio of useful vs pointless features in recent versions
>>> of C++ is not very good. All they're achieving is making the language so
>>> bloody complicated that new devs take one look at irt and flee for the hills.
>>
>>
>> Concepts are a very easy to understand feature of C++20.
> 
> They're also yet another solution looking for a problem that add another
> dollop of slop to the syntatic and semantic soup that is modern C++.
> 

Without concepts you might have complex errors from inside of a generic
functions. With human readable concept errors which all current C++20
-compilers support you get easier to read errors which show you which
requirement a generic type missed. That's a real advance over C++17.

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#120168

FromMuttley@dastardlyhq.com
Date2024-09-22 09:08 +0000
Message-ID<vcompg$25dbp$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#120167
On Sun, 22 Sep 2024 11:03:18 +0200
Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> boringly babbled:
>Am 22.09.2024 um 10:59 schrieb Muttley@dastardlyhq.com:
>> On Sun, 22 Sep 2024 10:45:01 +0200
>> Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> boringly babbled:
>>> Am 22.09.2024 um 10:06 schrieb Muttley@dastardlyhq.com:
>>>> On Sat, 21 Sep 2024 15:43:19 -0400
>>>> jseigh <jseigh_es00@xemaps.com> boringly babbled:
>>>>> Trying to come up to speed on C++ concepts. If they're are useful
>>>>> why wouldn't they define named requirements as a concept, e.g.
>>>>
>>>> The signal to noise ratio of useful vs pointless features in recent
>versions
>>>> of C++ is not very good. All they're achieving is making the language so
>>>> bloody complicated that new devs take one look at irt and flee for the
>hills.
>>>
>>>
>>> Concepts are a very easy to understand feature of C++20.
>> 
>> They're also yet another solution looking for a problem that add another
>> dollop of slop to the syntatic and semantic soup that is modern C++.
>> 
>
>Without concepts you might have complex errors from inside of a generic
>functions. With human readable concept errors which all current C++20
>-compilers support you get easier to read errors which show you which
>requirement a generic type missed. That's a real advance over C++17.

Generating appropriate readable errors is a function of the compiler, not
the language. g++ errors can be absolutely useless for actual debugging and
thats a fault of the gcc devs. Clang errors are usually more helpful but even 
they can be too long winded at times.

Why the compiler devs thought printing out literally (in some cases) pages of
incomprehensible gibberish just because of some minor templating error was a
good idea beats me.

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#120171

FromBonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com>
Date2024-09-22 11:51 +0200
Message-ID<vcopap$25o7r$1@raubtier-asyl.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#120168
Am 22.09.2024 um 11:08 schrieb Muttley@dastardlyhq.com:

> On Sun, 22 Sep 2024 11:03:18 +0200

>> Without concepts you might have complex errors from inside of a generic
>> functions. With human readable concept errors which all current C++20
>> -compilers support you get easier to read errors which show you which
>> requirement a generic type missed. That's a real advance over C++17.

> Generating appropriate readable errors is a function of the compiler, not
> the language. ...

It's part of the language and therefore there are concepts.

> g++ errors can be absolutely useless for actual debugging and thats a
> fault of the gcc devs. Clang errors are usually more helpful but even
> they can be too long winded at times.
> Why the compiler devs thought printing out literally (in some cases) pages of
> incomprehensible gibberish just because of some minor templating error was a
> good idea beats me.

Chose Java if you're overburdened with C++.

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#120181

FromMuttley@dastardlyhq.com
Date2024-09-22 15:15 +0000
Message-ID<vcpcap$28h9a$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#120171
On Sun, 22 Sep 2024 11:51:25 +0200
Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> boringly babbled:
>Am 22.09.2024 um 11:08 schrieb Muttley@dastardlyhq.com:
>
>> On Sun, 22 Sep 2024 11:03:18 +0200
>
>>> Without concepts you might have complex errors from inside of a generic
>>> functions. With human readable concept errors which all current C++20
>>> -compilers support you get easier to read errors which show you which
>>> requirement a generic type missed. That's a real advance over C++17.
>
>> Generating appropriate readable errors is a function of the compiler, not
>> the language. ...
>
>It's part of the language and therefore there are concepts.

Congrats on not understanding what I was saying. It wasn't that complicated.

>> incomprehensible gibberish just because of some minor templating error was a
>> good idea beats me.
>
>Chose Java if you're overburdened with C++.

Its too late in my career to change now as I don't fancy starting at the
bottom again, but if I was just starting out on a systems programming career 
right now I'd be learning Rust.

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#120188

FromBonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com>
Date2024-09-22 17:33 +0200
Message-ID<vcpdb9$28log$1@raubtier-asyl.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#120181
Am 22.09.2024 um 17:15 schrieb Muttley@dastardlyhq.com:
> On Sun, 22 Sep 2024 11:51:25 +0200
> Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> boringly babbled:
>> Am 22.09.2024 um 11:08 schrieb Muttley@dastardlyhq.com:
>>
>>> On Sun, 22 Sep 2024 11:03:18 +0200
>>
>>>> Without concepts you might have complex errors from inside of a generic
>>>> functions. With human readable concept errors which all current C++20
>>>> -compilers support you get easier to read errors which show you which
>>>> requirement a generic type missed. That's a real advance over C++17.
>>
>>> Generating appropriate readable errors is a function of the compiler, not
>>> the language. ...
>>
>> It's part of the language and therefore there are concepts.
> 
> Congrats on not understanding what I was saying. It wasn't that complicated.

If you have requirements on a generic type and they're not fulfilled
concepts are the only way to handle this conveniently in C++.

> 
>>> incomprehensible gibberish just because of some minor templating error was a
>>> good idea beats me.
>>
>> Chose Java if you're overburdened with C++.
> 
> Its too late in my career to change now as I don't fancy starting at the
> bottom again, but if I was just starting out on a systems programming career
> right now I'd be learning Rust.
> 

Rust will be popular in 10 - 20 years.

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#120201

FromMuttley@dastardlyhq.com
Date2024-09-23 07:39 +0000
Message-ID<vcr5vr$2keae$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#120188
On Sun, 22 Sep 2024 17:33:03 +0200
Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> boringly babbled:
>Am 22.09.2024 um 17:15 schrieb Muttley@dastardlyhq.com:
>> Congrats on not understanding what I was saying. It wasn't that complicated.
>
>If you have requirements on a generic type and they're not fulfilled
>concepts are the only way to handle this conveniently in C++.

Face <- palm.

>> Its too late in my career to change now as I don't fancy starting at the
>> bottom again, but if I was just starting out on a systems programming career
>> right now I'd be learning Rust.
>> 
>
>Rust will be popular in 10 - 20 years.

Or maybe it'll fail altogether like D. However it seems a reasonable halfway
house between C and C++ with built in memory safety and much less of the
syntatic and semantic bollocks that comes with C++.

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#120203

FromBonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com>
Date2024-09-23 10:54 +0200
Message-ID<vcracf$2l831$1@raubtier-asyl.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#120201
Am 23.09.2024 um 09:39 schrieb Muttley@dastardlyhq.com:

> Face <- palm.

Seems you don't undestand concepts.

>> Rust will be popular in 10 - 20 years.

> Or maybe it'll fail altogether like D. However it seems a reasonable halfway
> house between C and C++ with built in memory safety and much less of the
> syntatic and semantic bollocks that comes with C++.

The memory-safety can be reached while debugging through iterator-debug-
ging. I consequently use iterator debugging, f.e. through spans on raw
memory, and this way out of bounds errors are easy to find. Even for
s.o. who doesn't know the code.

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#120206

FromMuttley@dastardlyhq.com
Date2024-09-23 09:32 +0000
Message-ID<vcrciv$2ljsb$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#120203
On Mon, 23 Sep 2024 10:54:44 +0200
Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> boringly babbled:
>Am 23.09.2024 um 09:39 schrieb Muttley@dastardlyhq.com:
>
>> Face <- palm.
>
>Seems you don't undestand concepts.

And you don't understand english well enough to follow a thread which is
fair enough, its probably not your first language.

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#120208

FromBonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com>
Date2024-09-23 11:45 +0200
Message-ID<vcrdb6$2ln7i$1@raubtier-asyl.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#120206
Am 23.09.2024 um 11:32 schrieb Muttley@dastardlyhq.com:
> On Mon, 23 Sep 2024 10:54:44 +0200
> Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> boringly babbled:
>> Am 23.09.2024 um 09:39 schrieb Muttley@dastardlyhq.com:
>>
>>> Face <- palm.
>>
>> Seems you don't undestand concepts.
> 
> And you don't understand english well enough to follow a thread which is
> fair enough, its probably not your first language.

Without concepts you've to deal with the implementation
of code where you like to deal only with the interface.

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#120213

FromMuttley@dastardlyhq.com
Date2024-09-23 13:56 +0000
Message-ID<vcrs2q$2o19k$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#120208
On Mon, 23 Sep 2024 11:45:15 +0200
Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> boringly babbled:
>Am 23.09.2024 um 11:32 schrieb Muttley@dastardlyhq.com:
>> On Mon, 23 Sep 2024 10:54:44 +0200
>> Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> boringly babbled:
>>> Am 23.09.2024 um 09:39 schrieb Muttley@dastardlyhq.com:
>>>
>>>> Face <- palm.
>>>
>>> Seems you don't undestand concepts.
>> 
>> And you don't understand english well enough to follow a thread which is
>> fair enough, its probably not your first language.
>
>Without concepts you've to deal with the implementation
>of code where you like to deal only with the interface.

Stop digging.

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#120215

FromBonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com>
Date2024-09-23 16:00 +0200
Message-ID<vcrs98$2o1dm$1@raubtier-asyl.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#120213
Am 23.09.2024 um 15:56 schrieb Muttley@dastardlyhq.com:
> On Mon, 23 Sep 2024 11:45:15 +0200
> Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> boringly babbled:
>> Am 23.09.2024 um 11:32 schrieb Muttley@dastardlyhq.com:
>>> On Mon, 23 Sep 2024 10:54:44 +0200
>>> Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> boringly babbled:
>>>> Am 23.09.2024 um 09:39 schrieb Muttley@dastardlyhq.com:
>>>>
>>>>> Face <- palm.
>>>>
>>>> Seems you don't undestand concepts.
>>>
>>> And you don't understand english well enough to follow a thread which is
>>> fair enough, its probably not your first language.
>>
>> Without concepts you've to deal with the implementation
>> of code where you like to deal only with the interface.
> 
> Stop digging.
> 

C++ is a programming language for people who work with it continuously,
rather than occasionally.

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#120217

FromMuttley@dastardlyhq.com
Date2024-09-23 14:03 +0000
Message-ID<vcrsf1$2o3e4$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#120215
On Mon, 23 Sep 2024 16:00:13 +0200
Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> boringly babbled:
>Am 23.09.2024 um 15:56 schrieb Muttley@dastardlyhq.com:
>> On Mon, 23 Sep 2024 11:45:15 +0200
>> Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> boringly babbled:
>>> Am 23.09.2024 um 11:32 schrieb Muttley@dastardlyhq.com:
>>>> On Mon, 23 Sep 2024 10:54:44 +0200
>>>> Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> boringly babbled:
>>>>> Am 23.09.2024 um 09:39 schrieb Muttley@dastardlyhq.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Face <- palm.
>>>>>
>>>>> Seems you don't undestand concepts.
>>>>
>>>> And you don't understand english well enough to follow a thread which is
>>>> fair enough, its probably not your first language.
>>>
>>> Without concepts you've to deal with the implementation
>>> of code where you like to deal only with the interface.
>> 
>> Stop digging.
>> 
>
>C++ is a programming language for people who work with it continuously,
>rather than occasionally.

Stop digging.

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#120226

Fromscott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
Date2024-09-23 15:48 +0000
Message-ID<A5gIO.23611$5837.11764@fx35.iad>
In reply to#120203
Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> writes:
>Am 23.09.2024 um 09:39 schrieb Muttley@dastardlyhq.com:
>
>> Face <- palm.
>
>Seems you don't undestand concepts.
>
>>> Rust will be popular in 10 - 20 years.
>
>> Or maybe it'll fail altogether like D. However it seems a reasonable halfway
>> house between C and C++ with built in memory safety and much less of the
>> syntatic and semantic bollocks that comes with C++.
>
>The memory-safety can be reached while debugging through iterator-debug-
>ging. I consequently use iterator debugging, f.e. through spans on raw
>memory, and this way out of bounds errors are easy to find. Even for
>s.o. who doesn't know the code.


All you seem to develop are 100-line programs.   Try your techniques
with a real-world application (half-million lines) and get back to
us.

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#120227

FromBonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com>
Date2024-09-23 17:52 +0200
Message-ID<vcs2r5$2p394$1@raubtier-asyl.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#120226
Am 23.09.2024 um 17:48 schrieb Scott Lurndal:

> All you seem to develop are 100-line programs.   Try your techniques
> with a real-world application (half-million lines) and get back to
> us.

I use raw pointers, but where I would calculate by them on linear
memory I use span and then I calculate with the iterators. Before
span I used my own span-like class.

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#120225

Fromscott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
Date2024-09-23 15:47 +0000
Message-ID<u4gIO.23610$5837.890@fx35.iad>
In reply to#120201
Muttley@dastardlyhq.com writes:

>>Rust will be popular in 10 - 20 years.
>
>Or maybe it'll fail altogether like D. However it seems a reasonable halfway
>house between C and C++ with built in memory safety and much less of the
>syntatic and semantic bollocks that comes with C++.

So far.  But then C++ didn't have all the syntactic and semantic bollocks
when it was first developed;  just C with classes for data encapsulation.

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#120228

FromBonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com>
Date2024-09-23 17:53 +0200
Message-ID<vcs2te$2p394$2@raubtier-asyl.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#120225
Am 23.09.2024 um 17:47 schrieb Scott Lurndal:

> So far.  But then C++ didn't have all the syntactic and semantic bollocks
> when it was first developed;  just C with classes for data encapsulation.

Most of this abstraction with newer language features makes sense.

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