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| Started by | Wuns Haerst <Wuns.Haerst@wurstfabrik.at> |
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| First post | 2026-06-30 10:27 +0200 |
| Last post | 2026-07-17 15:23 +0300 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 195 — 15 participants |
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How to inline the main function of a thread? Wuns Haerst <Wuns.Haerst@wurstfabrik.at> - 2026-06-30 10:27 +0200
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-06-30 01:42 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-06-30 10:44 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-01 12:23 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-07-02 08:13 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-02 11:41 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-07-03 08:59 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-07-03 14:41 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-07-03 15:59 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-05 13:22 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-07-06 09:29 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-06 12:31 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-07-07 10:41 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-07 15:30 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-07-08 09:38 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-08 14:13 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-03 12:44 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-03 12:45 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-07-04 09:16 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-04 17:32 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-04 17:35 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-07-05 08:19 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-05 01:21 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-07-05 15:48 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-05 13:01 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-07-06 09:28 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-07-06 21:42 +0300
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-06 12:45 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-06 12:53 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-07 15:07 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-07-07 10:40 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-07-07 20:36 +0300
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-07-07 18:09 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-07-07 21:40 +0300
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-07-07 22:11 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-07-08 09:34 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-07-08 22:16 +0300
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-08 14:16 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-07-09 08:55 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-07-09 15:18 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-07-09 15:43 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-07-10 15:32 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-07-10 16:03 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-07-09 14:07 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-07-10 15:34 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-07-09 22:15 +0300
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-07-10 09:21 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-07-10 14:02 +0300
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-07-10 11:22 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-07-10 14:45 +0300
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-07-10 15:12 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-07-10 18:43 +0300
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-07-10 16:06 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-07-10 19:13 +0300
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-07-11 09:28 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-11 14:41 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-07-12 15:23 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-13 13:12 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-07-14 11:05 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-07-14 14:31 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-07-14 15:42 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-10 15:33 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-10 15:33 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-08 14:15 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-07-09 08:55 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-09 12:51 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-07-10 09:22 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-07-10 14:22 +0300
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-07-10 11:24 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-10 12:32 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-07-11 09:29 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-11 14:09 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-07-12 15:15 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-12 10:58 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-07-13 09:39 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-13 13:14 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-05 13:16 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-07-06 09:29 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-06 12:49 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-07-07 10:41 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-07 15:17 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-07-08 09:38 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-08 14:17 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-07-09 08:56 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-09 12:53 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-07-10 09:24 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-10 13:36 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-07-11 09:30 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-11 14:08 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-07 15:19 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-04 23:36 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-07-05 08:21 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-05 01:22 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-07-05 14:39 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-07-05 15:50 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-12 11:22 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-07-05 15:49 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-10 00:16 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-07-10 09:25 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-10 15:36 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-07-11 09:32 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-11 14:10 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-07-12 15:18 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-12 11:21 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-07-13 10:26 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-13 13:05 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-07-14 10:58 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-14 13:45 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-07-15 11:23 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-07-15 14:07 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-07-15 15:54 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-15 15:51 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-07-16 10:44 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-16 12:37 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-07-17 09:26 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-07-17 13:32 +0300
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-17 12:00 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-07-18 23:12 +0300
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-18 17:15 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-18 17:18 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-07-19 04:56 +0300
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-07-19 05:00 +0300
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-19 13:54 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-07-19 07:57 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-19 13:54 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-19 13:57 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@battlestar-galactica.com - 2026-07-20 07:51 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-20 13:15 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-18 17:37 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-16 12:40 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-07-17 09:27 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-19 13:55 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@battlestar-galactica.com - 2026-07-20 07:49 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-20 13:16 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@battlestar-galactica.com - 2026-07-21 15:55 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-21 13:47 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@battlestar-galactica.com - 2026-07-21 21:13 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-21 14:28 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@battlestar.co.uk - 2026-07-22 08:01 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-22 13:28 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@battlestar.co.uk - 2026-07-23 15:01 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-07-22 01:53 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@battlestar.co.uk - 2026-07-22 08:02 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-22 13:30 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-07-22 16:02 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-07-23 15:00 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@caprica.space - 2026-07-23 15:05 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-11 14:11 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-07-12 15:19 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-12 11:02 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-07-13 09:42 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-16 13:50 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-07-12 23:05 +0300
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-13 13:08 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-16 13:56 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-16 13:58 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-03 10:45 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-03 12:36 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? Tristan Wibberley <tristan.wibberley+netnews2@alumni.manchester.ac.uk> - 2026-07-28 12:50 +0100
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-06-30 11:07 +0200
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-06-30 10:46 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-01 12:25 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-07-02 08:13 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-06-30 10:41 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-06-30 14:14 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2026-06-30 16:30 +0200
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-06-30 15:25 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-01 12:30 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2026-07-05 14:03 +0200
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-07-05 14:41 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2026-07-05 20:08 +0200
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-05 13:05 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-05 14:03 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-05 14:36 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-07-06 17:47 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-07-06 21:49 +0300
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2026-07-08 15:47 +0200
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-08 14:32 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2026-07-09 10:34 +0200
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-09 13:01 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2026-07-10 05:58 +0200
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-12 11:19 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2026-07-17 13:56 +0200
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? Tristan Wibberley <tristan.wibberley+netnews2@alumni.manchester.ac.uk> - 2026-07-28 13:31 +0100
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-06-30 15:39 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? Wuns Haerst <Wuns.Haerst@wurstfabrik.at> - 2026-06-30 18:00 +0200
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-06-30 17:05 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-07-01 08:22 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? Tristan Wibberley <tristan.wibberley+netnews2@alumni.manchester.ac.uk> - 2026-07-28 14:43 +0100
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-28 12:31 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? boltar@uxvz2mpj0o8fzg70vyzzcf46nvx2.biz - 2026-07-29 08:36 +0000
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-06-30 23:29 +0300
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-04 23:47 -0700
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? Wuns Haerst <Wuns.Haerst@wurstfabrik.at> - 2026-07-17 13:45 +0200
Re: How to inline the main function of a thread? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-07-17 15:23 +0300
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| From | Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2026-07-19 04:56 +0300 |
| Message-ID | <20260719045639.00001597@yahoo.com> |
| In reply to | #124332 |
On Sat, 18 Jul 2026 17:18:48 -0700 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote: > On 7/18/2026 5:15 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > > On 7/18/2026 1:12 PM, Michael S wrote: > >> On Fri, 17 Jul 2026 12:00:55 -0700 > >> "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> On 7/17/2026 3:32 AM, Michael S wrote: > >>>> On Thu, 16 Jul 2026 12:37:20 -0700 > >>>> "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> If I am on Windows I use IOCP and use all of it, all the bells > >>>>> ans whistles. If I am on Linux, I would use io_uring for SURE! > >>>> > >>> > >>> Well, when in Rome? IOCP on Windows is the way to write a server, > >>> or a client for that matter. On my free time I am slowly but > >>> surely recreating my old proxy server code from around 2002. So > >>> far mostly from memory. Some of the API's are messing me up a > >>> little. Hard to remember them. > >>> > >>> On Linux AIO or io_uring. The fun part is that they have very > >>> similar logic to IOCP. > >> > >> > >> So you never measure if complicated code is faster than the simple > >> one or not. > >> Somehow, it's what I expected. > >> > >> > > > > Why do you assume that? IOCP is WAY more efficient than using say, > > select, or the event based thing using WaitForMultipleObjects. AIO > > or io_uring is way more efficient than using select, even epoll > > iirc. > > > > If you are building a robust server that is meant to scale up, we > > need these API's. > > Back in the day, 20+ years ago I experimented with all sort of > completion techniques. Worst by far is the thread per connection > crap. It does not scale at all. Actually, WaitForMultipleObjects > worked kind of okay but we must remember to scramble or shift the > objects in the array to avoid starvation. select did not scale, > etc... IOCP on Windows is bar none, the way to go.
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| From | Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2026-07-19 05:00 +0300 |
| Message-ID | <20260719050030.000005bb@yahoo.com> |
| In reply to | #124332 |
On Sat, 18 Jul 2026 17:18:48 -0700 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote: > On 7/18/2026 5:15 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > > On 7/18/2026 1:12 PM, Michael S wrote: > >> On Fri, 17 Jul 2026 12:00:55 -0700 > >> "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> On 7/17/2026 3:32 AM, Michael S wrote: > >>>> On Thu, 16 Jul 2026 12:37:20 -0700 > >>>> "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> If I am on Windows I use IOCP and use all of it, all the bells > >>>>> ans whistles. If I am on Linux, I would use io_uring for SURE! > >>>> > >>> > >>> Well, when in Rome? IOCP on Windows is the way to write a server, > >>> or a client for that matter. On my free time I am slowly but > >>> surely recreating my old proxy server code from around 2002. So > >>> far mostly from memory. Some of the API's are messing me up a > >>> little. Hard to remember them. > >>> > >>> On Linux AIO or io_uring. The fun part is that they have very > >>> similar logic to IOCP. > >> > >> > >> So you never measure if complicated code is faster than the simple > >> one or not. > >> Somehow, it's what I expected. > >> > >> > > > > Why do you assume that? IOCP is WAY more efficient than using say, > > select, or the event based thing using WaitForMultipleObjects. AIO > > or io_uring is way more efficient than using select, even epoll > > iirc. > > > > If you are building a robust server that is meant to scale up, we > > need these API's. > > Back in the day, 20+ years ago I experimented with all sort of > completion techniques. Worst by far is the thread per connection > crap. It does not scale at all. Actually, WaitForMultipleObjects > worked kind of okay but we must remember to scramble or shift the > objects in the array to avoid starvation. select did not scale, > etc... IOCP on Windows is bar none, the way to go. What was correct 20+ years ago (would not surprise me if in fact your measurements were done 25+ years ago) is VERY likely to be wrong today. Esp. so for servers that never see a lot of load. Definition of "a lot" also changed.
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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-07-19 13:54 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <113jdhe$l8tp$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #124336 |
On 7/18/2026 7:00 PM, Michael S wrote: > On Sat, 18 Jul 2026 17:18:48 -0700 > "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 7/18/2026 5:15 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>> On 7/18/2026 1:12 PM, Michael S wrote: >>>> On Fri, 17 Jul 2026 12:00:55 -0700 >>>> "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 7/17/2026 3:32 AM, Michael S wrote: >>>>>> On Thu, 16 Jul 2026 12:37:20 -0700 >>>>>> "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If I am on Windows I use IOCP and use all of it, all the bells >>>>>>> ans whistles. If I am on Linux, I would use io_uring for SURE! >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Well, when in Rome? IOCP on Windows is the way to write a server, >>>>> or a client for that matter. On my free time I am slowly but >>>>> surely recreating my old proxy server code from around 2002. So >>>>> far mostly from memory. Some of the API's are messing me up a >>>>> little. Hard to remember them. >>>>> >>>>> On Linux AIO or io_uring. The fun part is that they have very >>>>> similar logic to IOCP. >>>> >>>> >>>> So you never measure if complicated code is faster than the simple >>>> one or not. >>>> Somehow, it's what I expected. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Why do you assume that? IOCP is WAY more efficient than using say, >>> select, or the event based thing using WaitForMultipleObjects. AIO >>> or io_uring is way more efficient than using select, even epoll >>> iirc. >>> >>> If you are building a robust server that is meant to scale up, we >>> need these API's. >> >> Back in the day, 20+ years ago I experimented with all sort of >> completion techniques. Worst by far is the thread per connection >> crap. It does not scale at all. Actually, WaitForMultipleObjects >> worked kind of okay but we must remember to scramble or shift the >> objects in the array to avoid starvation. select did not scale, >> etc... IOCP on Windows is bar none, the way to go. > > What was correct 20+ years ago (would not surprise me if in fact > your measurements were done 25+ years ago) is VERY likely to be wrong > today. > Esp. so for servers that never see a lot of load. Definition of "a > lot" also changed. A lot of load back then was around 50 to 60 thousand concurrent connections all loaded with activity, some random disconnects, graceful shutdowns, connect then artificially wait trying to blow the server up, need timeout detection here, anyway... Thread per connections were crap wrt scalability! BIG TIME! IOCP on Windows, the only way.
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| From | boltar@caprica.universe |
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| Date | 2026-07-19 07:57 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <113i013$6geu$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #124331 |
On Sat, 18 Jul 2026 17:15:28 -0700 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> gabbled: >On 7/18/2026 1:12 PM, Michael S wrote: >> On Fri, 17 Jul 2026 12:00:55 -0700 >> "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote: >> So you never measure if complicated code is faster than the simple one >> or not. >> Somehow, it's what I expected. >> >> > >Why do you assume that? IOCP is WAY more efficient than using say, >select, or the event based thing using WaitForMultipleObjects. AIO or >io_uring is way more efficient than using select, even epoll iirc. > >If you are building a robust server that is meant to scale up, we need >these API's. I've never used io_uring on linux but just looking at the man page makes me want to run for the hills. Setup and retrieval looks highly complicated with C pointers all over the place. Frankly the io_uring_sqe structure is a horror story. There are probably easier ways to get high server throughput than dicking about with this awful API.
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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-07-19 13:54 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <113jdis$l8tp$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #124337 |
On 7/19/2026 12:57 AM, boltar@caprica.universe wrote: > On Sat, 18 Jul 2026 17:15:28 -0700 > "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> gabbled: >> On 7/18/2026 1:12 PM, Michael S wrote: >>> On Fri, 17 Jul 2026 12:00:55 -0700 >>> "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote: >>> So you never measure if complicated code is faster than the simple one >>> or not. >>> Somehow, it's what I expected. >>> >>> >> >> Why do you assume that? IOCP is WAY more efficient than using say, >> select, or the event based thing using WaitForMultipleObjects. AIO or >> io_uring is way more efficient than using select, even epoll iirc. >> >> If you are building a robust server that is meant to scale up, we need >> these API's. > > I've never used io_uring on linux but just looking at the man page makes > me want to run for the hills. Setup and retrieval looks highly > complicated with C pointers all over the place. Frankly the io_uring_sqe > structure is a horror story. There are probably easier ways to get high > server throughput > than dicking about with this awful API. > Make your own. Heck... io_uring is more low level than IOCP!
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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-07-19 13:57 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <113jdn7$l8tp$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #124337 |
On 7/19/2026 12:57 AM, boltar@caprica.universe wrote: > On Sat, 18 Jul 2026 17:15:28 -0700 > "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> gabbled: >> On 7/18/2026 1:12 PM, Michael S wrote: >>> On Fri, 17 Jul 2026 12:00:55 -0700 >>> "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote: >>> So you never measure if complicated code is faster than the simple one >>> or not. >>> Somehow, it's what I expected. >>> >>> >> >> Why do you assume that? IOCP is WAY more efficient than using say, >> select, or the event based thing using WaitForMultipleObjects. AIO or >> io_uring is way more efficient than using select, even epoll iirc. >> >> If you are building a robust server that is meant to scale up, we need >> these API's. > > I've never used io_uring on linux but just looking at the man page makes > me want to run for the hills. Setup and retrieval looks highly > complicated with C pointers all over the place. Frankly the io_uring_sqe > structure is a horror story. There are probably easier ways to get high > server throughput > than dicking about with this awful API. > Btw, if you don't like C... Well, don't use POSIX at all. Stay away from any linux C API's, etc... ;^)
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| From | boltar@battlestar-galactica.com |
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| Date | 2026-07-20 07:51 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <113kk2c$2j3rq$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #124343 |
On Sun, 19 Jul 2026 13:57:11 -0700 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote: >On 7/19/2026 12:57 AM, boltar@caprica.universe wrote: >> I've never used io_uring on linux but just looking at the man page makes >> me want to run for the hills. Setup and retrieval looks highly >> complicated with C pointers all over the place. Frankly the io_uring_sqe >> structure is a horror story. There are probably easier ways to get high >> server throughput >> than dicking about with this awful API. >> > >Btw, if you don't like C... Well, don't use POSIX at all. Stay away from >any linux C API's, etc... ;^) I don't have a problem with C but I understand that it gets to a point where the complexity of something can overwhelm even the best developer and IMO io_uring has reached that point. Also its why I use C++ and so don't have to re-write my own hash function or red black tree container every time I write some code.
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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-07-20 13:15 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <113lvlp$1fdp8$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #124346 |
On 7/20/2026 12:51 AM, boltar@battlestar-galactica.com wrote: > On Sun, 19 Jul 2026 13:57:11 -0700 > "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote: >> On 7/19/2026 12:57 AM, boltar@caprica.universe wrote: >>> I've never used io_uring on linux but just looking at the man page makes >>> me want to run for the hills. Setup and retrieval looks highly >>> complicated with C pointers all over the place. Frankly the >>> io_uring_sqe structure is a horror story. There are probably easier >>> ways to get high server throughput >>> than dicking about with this awful API. >>> >> >> Btw, if you don't like C... Well, don't use POSIX at all. Stay away >> from any linux C API's, etc... ;^) > > I don't have a problem with C but I understand that it gets to a point > where the complexity of something can overwhelm even the best developer > and IMO io_uring has reached that point. io_uring vs aio is way different at hyper low level. Almost akin to the difference between dx11 vs dx12, or Vulkan. Use it when you want to get scalable servers. Afaict, IOCP is the best windows has at the moment... > Also its why I use C++ and so don't have to re-write my own hash function > or red black tree container every time I write some code. Fair enough. C++ can handle low level as good as C can. Notice my atomic_region and my ralloc region allocator I posted in this thread? They can be used with io_uring. mmap, does not matter.
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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-07-18 17:37 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <113h68l$6pj$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #124329 |
On 7/18/2026 1:12 PM, Michael S wrote: > On Fri, 17 Jul 2026 12:00:55 -0700 > "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 7/17/2026 3:32 AM, Michael S wrote: >>> On Thu, 16 Jul 2026 12:37:20 -0700 >>> "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> If I am on Windows I use IOCP and use all of it, all the bells ans >>>> whistles. If I am on Linux, I would use io_uring for SURE! >>>> >>> >> >> Well, when in Rome? IOCP on Windows is the way to write a server, or >> a client for that matter. On my free time I am slowly but surely >> recreating my old proxy server code from around 2002. So far mostly >> from memory. Some of the API's are messing me up a little. Hard to >> remember them. >> >> On Linux AIO or io_uring. The fun part is that they have very similar >> logic to IOCP. > > > So you never measure if complicated code is faster than the simple one > or not. > Somehow, it's what I expected. > > Fwiw, https://www.devdigest.org/articles/epoll-vs-io-uring-why-linux-async-io-changed-forever
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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-07-16 12:40 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <113bc3r$27vdr$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #124310 |
On 7/16/2026 3:44 AM, boltar@caprica.universe wrote: > On Wed, 15 Jul 2026 15:51:10 -0700 > "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> gabbled: >> On 7/15/2026 8:54 AM, boltar@caprica.universe wrote: >>> On Wed, 15 Jul 2026 14:07:58 GMT >>> scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) gabbled: >>>> boltar@caprica.universe writes: >>>>> On Tue, 14 Jul 2026 13:45:36 -0700 >>>>> "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> gabbled: >>>> >>>>>> Huh? It saves a lot of work wrt closesocket, and calling WSASocket >>>>> >>>>> I have no idea what "work" windows does with sockets but as I've >>>>> said more >>>>> than once, on unix a socket is just an id number used to link >>>>> userspace to >>>> >>>> Specifically, the socket(2) system call returns a standard file >>>> descriptor >>>> that can be used with the other file-related system calls such as read, >>>> write, poll/select, ioctl, etc. >>> >>> Indeed. Windows OTOH appears to have a specific C struct for sockets >>> which >> seems >>> unnecessarily complicated. >>> >> >> Avoiding another call to WSASocket is beneficial. > > If windows didn't have a userspace struct representing a socket it wouldn't > be needed in the first place. > Why would you closesocket, when we can issue a DisconnectEx and once that per_io get completed in the io_worker thread pool, we can add the socket back to the per_socket pool(s), or just issue a new AcceptEx right there! No need to call closesocket, and then WSASocket again, right?
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| From | boltar@caprica.universe |
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| Date | 2026-07-17 09:27 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <113csh7$2ug9k$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #124312 |
On Thu, 16 Jul 2026 12:40:42 -0700 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> gabbled: >On 7/16/2026 3:44 AM, boltar@caprica.universe wrote: >> On Wed, 15 Jul 2026 15:51:10 -0700 >> "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> gabbled: >>> On 7/15/2026 8:54 AM, boltar@caprica.universe wrote: >>>> On Wed, 15 Jul 2026 14:07:58 GMT >>>> scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) gabbled: >>>>> boltar@caprica.universe writes: >>>>>> On Tue, 14 Jul 2026 13:45:36 -0700 >>>>>> "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> gabbled: >>>>> >>>>>>> Huh? It saves a lot of work wrt closesocket, and calling WSASocket >>>>>> >>>>>> I have no idea what "work" windows does with sockets but as I've >>>>>> said more >>>>>> than once, on unix a socket is just an id number used to link >>>>>> userspace to >>>>> >>>>> Specifically, the socket(2) system call returns a standard file >>>>> descriptor >>>>> that can be used with the other file-related system calls such as read, >>>>> write, poll/select, ioctl, etc. >>>> >>>> Indeed. Windows OTOH appears to have a specific C struct for sockets >>>> which >>> seems >>>> unnecessarily complicated. >>>> >>> >>> Avoiding another call to WSASocket is beneficial. >> >> If windows didn't have a userspace struct representing a socket it wouldn't >> be needed in the first place. >> > >Why would you closesocket, when we can issue a DisconnectEx and once >that per_io get completed in the io_worker thread pool, we can add the >socket back to the per_socket pool(s), or just issue a new AcceptEx >right there! No need to call closesocket, and then WSASocket again, right? No idea, I'm not a win32 developer. Windows seems to make a complete meal out of what should be - in userspace - a simple process.
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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-07-19 13:55 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <113jdk9$l8tp$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #124317 |
On 7/17/2026 2:27 AM, boltar@caprica.universe wrote: > On Thu, 16 Jul 2026 12:40:42 -0700 > "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> gabbled: >> On 7/16/2026 3:44 AM, boltar@caprica.universe wrote: >>> On Wed, 15 Jul 2026 15:51:10 -0700 >>> "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> gabbled: >>>> On 7/15/2026 8:54 AM, boltar@caprica.universe wrote: >>>>> On Wed, 15 Jul 2026 14:07:58 GMT >>>>> scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) gabbled: >>>>>> boltar@caprica.universe writes: >>>>>>> On Tue, 14 Jul 2026 13:45:36 -0700 >>>>>>> "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> gabbled: >>>>>> >>>>>>>> Huh? It saves a lot of work wrt closesocket, and calling WSASocket >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have no idea what "work" windows does with sockets but as I've >>>>>>> said more >>>>>>> than once, on unix a socket is just an id number used to link >>>>>>> userspace to >>>>>> >>>>>> Specifically, the socket(2) system call returns a standard file >>>>>> descriptor >>>>>> that can be used with the other file-related system calls such as >>>>>> read, >>>>>> write, poll/select, ioctl, etc. >>>>> >>>>> Indeed. Windows OTOH appears to have a specific C struct for >>>>> sockets which >>>> seems >>>>> unnecessarily complicated. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Avoiding another call to WSASocket is beneficial. >>> >>> If windows didn't have a userspace struct representing a socket it >>> wouldn't >>> be needed in the first place. >>> >> >> Why would you closesocket, when we can issue a DisconnectEx and once >> that per_io get completed in the io_worker thread pool, we can add the >> socket back to the per_socket pool(s), or just issue a new AcceptEx >> right there! No need to call closesocket, and then WSASocket again, >> right? > > No idea, I'm not a win32 developer. Windows seems to make a complete meal > out of what should be - in userspace - a simple process. > Make your own OS and show them how its done. ;^)
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| From | boltar@battlestar-galactica.com |
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| Date | 2026-07-20 07:49 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <113kju7$2j3h7$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #124342 |
On Sun, 19 Jul 2026 13:55:37 -0700 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote: >On 7/17/2026 2:27 AM, boltar@caprica.universe wrote: >> No idea, I'm not a win32 developer. Windows seems to make a complete meal >> out of what should be - in userspace - a simple process. >> > >Make your own OS and show them how its done. ;^) I dont need to - thomson and Richie did it in 1969.
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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-07-20 13:16 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <113lvnm$1fdp8$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #124345 |
On 7/20/2026 12:49 AM, boltar@battlestar-galactica.com wrote: > On Sun, 19 Jul 2026 13:55:37 -0700 > "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote: >> On 7/17/2026 2:27 AM, boltar@caprica.universe wrote: >>> No idea, I'm not a win32 developer. Windows seems to make a complete >>> meal >>> out of what should be - in userspace - a simple process. >>> >> >> Make your own OS and show them how its done. ;^) > > I dont need to - thomson and Richie did it in 1969. > Well, patch the linux kernel, or the winnt kernel, and show them how you make use of your new socket infrastructure?
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| From | boltar@battlestar-galactica.com |
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| Date | 2026-07-21 15:55 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <113o4pp$2458s$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #124349 |
On Mon, 20 Jul 2026 13:16:54 -0700 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote: >On 7/20/2026 12:49 AM, boltar@battlestar-galactica.com wrote: >> On Sun, 19 Jul 2026 13:55:37 -0700 >> "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On 7/17/2026 2:27 AM, boltar@caprica.universe wrote: >>>> No idea, I'm not a win32 developer. Windows seems to make a complete >>>> meal >>>> out of what should be - in userspace - a simple process. >>>> >>> >>> Make your own OS and show them how its done. ;^) >> >> I dont need to - thomson and Richie did it in 1969. >> > >Well, patch the linux kernel, or the winnt kernel, and show them how you >make use of your new socket infrastructure? I don't follow. All I'm saying is while its not perfect, the unix - and later posix - socket model is reasonably simple and dovetails nicely with other file descriptor based user subsystems. The only addition I would make is to make AF_INET sockets visible in the filesystem just like AF_UNIX ones.
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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-07-21 13:47 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <113olt6$2b1f7$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #124350 |
On 7/21/2026 8:55 AM, boltar@battlestar-galactica.com wrote: > On Mon, 20 Jul 2026 13:16:54 -0700 > "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote: >> On 7/20/2026 12:49 AM, boltar@battlestar-galactica.com wrote: >>> On Sun, 19 Jul 2026 13:55:37 -0700 >>> "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> On 7/17/2026 2:27 AM, boltar@caprica.universe wrote: >>>>> No idea, I'm not a win32 developer. Windows seems to make a >>>>> complete meal >>>>> out of what should be - in userspace - a simple process. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Make your own OS and show them how its done. ;^) >>> >>> I dont need to - thomson and Richie did it in 1969. >>> >> >> Well, patch the linux kernel, or the winnt kernel, and show them how >> you make use of your new socket infrastructure? > > I don't follow. All I'm saying is while its not perfect, the unix - and > later > posix - socket model is reasonably simple and dovetails nicely with other > file descriptor based user subsystems. The only addition I would make is to > make AF_INET sockets visible in the filesystem just like AF_UNIX ones. > But, you are telling us how it should work, when you don't know how it does work?
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| From | boltar@battlestar-galactica.com |
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| Date | 2026-07-21 21:13 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <113ond3$2ncgf$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #124351 |
On Tue, 21 Jul 2026 13:47:34 -0700 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote: >On 7/21/2026 8:55 AM, boltar@battlestar-galactica.com wrote: >> On Mon, 20 Jul 2026 13:16:54 -0700 >> "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On 7/20/2026 12:49 AM, boltar@battlestar-galactica.com wrote: >>>> On Sun, 19 Jul 2026 13:55:37 -0700 >>>> "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> On 7/17/2026 2:27 AM, boltar@caprica.universe wrote: >>>>>> No idea, I'm not a win32 developer. Windows seems to make a >>>>>> complete meal >>>>>> out of what should be - in userspace - a simple process. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Make your own OS and show them how its done. ;^) >>>> >>>> I dont need to - thomson and Richie did it in 1969. >>>> >>> >>> Well, patch the linux kernel, or the winnt kernel, and show them how >>> you make use of your new socket infrastructure? >> >> I don't follow. All I'm saying is while its not perfect, the unix - and >> later >> posix - socket model is reasonably simple and dovetails nicely with other >> file descriptor based user subsystems. The only addition I would make is to >> make AF_INET sockets visible in the filesystem just like AF_UNIX ones. >> > >But, you are telling us how it should work, when you don't know how it >does work? I don't care about the kernel implementation, I'm talking about the userspace side. I'd have thought that was obvious.
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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-07-21 14:28 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <113ooab$2brr0$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #124352 |
On 7/21/2026 2:13 PM, boltar@battlestar-galactica.com wrote: > On Tue, 21 Jul 2026 13:47:34 -0700 > "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote: >> On 7/21/2026 8:55 AM, boltar@battlestar-galactica.com wrote: >>> On Mon, 20 Jul 2026 13:16:54 -0700 >>> "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> On 7/20/2026 12:49 AM, boltar@battlestar-galactica.com wrote: >>>>> On Sun, 19 Jul 2026 13:55:37 -0700 >>>>> "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> On 7/17/2026 2:27 AM, boltar@caprica.universe wrote: >>>>>>> No idea, I'm not a win32 developer. Windows seems to make a >>>>>>> complete meal >>>>>>> out of what should be - in userspace - a simple process. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Make your own OS and show them how its done. ;^) >>>>> >>>>> I dont need to - thomson and Richie did it in 1969. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Well, patch the linux kernel, or the winnt kernel, and show them how >>>> you make use of your new socket infrastructure? >>> >>> I don't follow. All I'm saying is while its not perfect, the unix - >>> and later >>> posix - socket model is reasonably simple and dovetails nicely with >>> other >>> file descriptor based user subsystems. The only addition I would make >>> is to >>> make AF_INET sockets visible in the filesystem just like AF_UNIX ones. >>> >> >> But, you are telling us how it should work, when you don't know how it >> does work? > > I don't care about the kernel implementation, I'm talking about the > userspace > side. I'd have thought that was obvious. > But the userspace side wrt sockets needs to work with the kernel side.
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| From | boltar@battlestar.co.uk |
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| Date | 2026-07-22 08:01 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <113ptdf$2n430$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #124353 |
On Tue, 21 Jul 2026 14:28:43 -0700 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote: >On 7/21/2026 2:13 PM, boltar@battlestar-galactica.com wrote: >> I don't care about the kernel implementation, I'm talking about the >> userspace >> side. I'd have thought that was obvious. >> > >But the userspace side wrt sockets needs to work with the kernel side. Are you an LLM? You seem to understand the meaning of words but get lost on the meaning of the whole post.
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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-07-22 13:28 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <113r95u$396f7$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #124356 |
On 7/22/2026 1:01 AM, boltar@battlestar.co.uk wrote: > On Tue, 21 Jul 2026 14:28:43 -0700 > "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote: >> On 7/21/2026 2:13 PM, boltar@battlestar-galactica.com wrote: >>> I don't care about the kernel implementation, I'm talking about the >>> userspace >>> side. I'd have thought that was obvious. >>> >> >> But the userspace side wrt sockets needs to work with the kernel side. > > Are you an LLM? You seem to understand the meaning of words but get lost > on the meaning of the whole post. > No LLM, I have a long history on this group. You are the one that seems be be missing something... As if you no experience with using sockets?
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