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  AI is taking our jobs .. not HAL 9000 <hal@discovery.nasa> - 2026-02-21 21:47 +0000
    Re: AI is taking our jobs .. not wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2026-02-24 03:51 +0800
      Re: AI is taking our jobs .. not "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-02-28 17:43 +0800
    Re: AI is taking our jobs .. not Tristan Wibberley <tristan.wibberley+netnews2@alumni.manchester.ac.uk> - 2026-02-24 18:07 +0000
      Re: AI is taking our jobs .. not "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-02-28 17:44 +0800
    Re: AI is taking our jobs .. not "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-02-25 19:21 +0800
      Re: AI is taking our jobs .. not Tristan Wibberley <tristan.wibberley+netnews2@alumni.manchester.ac.uk> - 2026-02-27 10:39 +0000
        Re: AI is taking our jobs .. not "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-02-28 12:25 +0800
          Re: AI is taking our jobs .. not Tristan Wibberley <tristan.wibberley+netnews2@alumni.manchester.ac.uk> - 2026-03-05 20:53 +0000
            Re: AI is taking our jobs .. not "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-03-06 12:44 +0800
              Re: AI is taking our jobs .. not Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-06 12:33 +0200
    Re: AI is taking our jobs .. not "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-03-02 23:58 +0800

#123490 — AI is taking our jobs .. not

AI is great but you have to be able to call on everything you learnt prior 
to the arrival of LLMs to leverage the stochastic parrots properly (i.e. 
fixing their errors and flat out hallucinations): this is why pure vibe 
coding by people with no coding experience remains bullsh*t. #compsci #AI

/Flibble

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#123491

On Sat, 2026-02-21 at 21:47 +0000, HAL 9000 wrote:
> AI is great but you have to be able to call on everything you learnt prior 
> to the arrival of LLMs to leverage the stochastic parrots properly (i.e. 
> fixing their errors and flat out hallucinations): this is why pure vibe 
> coding by people with no coding experience remains bullsh*t. #compsci #AI
> 
> /Flibble

https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/microsoft-ai-ceo-says-most-white-collar-jobs-to-be-replaced-with-ai-in-12-months-models-coding-better-than-humans-101770906229347.html
Microsoft AI CEO Mustafa Suleyman said that today there are AI models that can code better than vast
majority of human coders, (AFP/File Photo)

Don't complain, just show how you can beat AI, losers.

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/07/13/business/video/gps0713-ai-workforce-nvidia-productivity
... the fundamental thing is, do we have left more ideas...

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#123497

On 2/24/2026 3:51 AM, wij wrote:
> 
> Microsoft AI CEO Mustafa Suleyman said that today there are AI models that can code better than vast
> majority of human coders, (AFP/File Photo)
> 
> Don't complain, just show how you can beat AI, losers.

Prove that A.I. is really coding not copying or stealing some human's 
work! :)

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#123492

On 21/02/2026 21:47, HAL 9000 wrote:
> AI is great but you have to be able to call on everything you learnt prior 
> to the arrival of LLMs to leverage the stochastic parrots properly (i.e. 
> fixing their errors and flat out hallucinations): this is why pure vibe 
> coding by people with no coding experience remains bullsh*t. #compsci #AI

Vibe coding is just requirements engineering practice on a model of a
segment of human coders. Vibe coders create policies for a software
construction gig economy (in effect, the defence industry, because who
else would need software construction prompts applicable to gig coding).


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Tristan Wibberley

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superiority which you _may_ misrepresent. You definitely MAY NOT train
any production AI system with it but you may train experimental AI that
will only be used for evaluation of the AI methods it implements.

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#123498

On 2/25/2026 2:07 AM, Tristan Wibberley wrote:
> 
> Vibe coding is just requirements engineering practice on a model of a
> segment of human coders. Vibe coders create policies for a software
> construction gig economy (in effect, the defence industry, because who
> else would need software construction prompts applicable to gig coding).\

What made vibe more trustworhty than non-vibe? Because vibe has "weapons 
of mass destruction"? Because vibe is authorized to kill humans? :)

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#123493

On 2/22/2026 5:47 AM, HAL 9000 wrote:
> AI is great but you have to be able to call on everything you learnt prior
> to the arrival of LLMs to leverage the stochastic parrots properly (i.e.
> fixing their errors and flat out hallucinations): this is why pure vibe
> coding by people with no coding experience remains bullsh*t. #compsci #AI
Why do you trust source codes found by A.I.?

A.I. merely helps programmers find canned source codes. Opening the can 
of worms, doing quality control and auditing security should still be 
done by human.

BTW, I think you were talking about:

THE 2028 GLOBAL INTELLIGENCE CRISIS
<https://www.citriniresearch.com/p/2028gic>

How AI agents could destroy the economy | TechCrunch
<https://techcrunch.com/2026/02/23/how-ai-agents-could-destroy-the-economy/>



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#123495

On 25/02/2026 11:21, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> On 2/22/2026 5:47 AM, HAL 9000 wrote:
>> AI is great but you have to be able to call on everything you learnt
>> prior
>> to the arrival of LLMs to leverage the stochastic parrots properly (i.e.
>> fixing their errors and flat out hallucinations): this is why pure vibe
>> coding by people with no coding experience remains bullsh*t. #compsci #AI
> Why do you trust source codes found by A.I.?
> 
> A.I. merely helps programmers find canned source codes. Opening the can
> of worms, doing quality control and auditing security should still be
> done by human.

helps, helped, or will help?

mere LLMs don't even help find canned source codes, expert systems do that.

Automated theorem provers can translate requirements direct to correct
(and provably correct) programs (by the Curry-Howard correspondence).
Auditing security should be done by these.

Expert Systems and Automated Theorem Provers are AI too.

LLMs could assist in generating conjectures for the automated theorem
provers but then human language could become formalised and not natural
and then we're in a double-plus-dystopia. LLMs should be very useful to
create semi-formal statements that requirements encoders and customers
mutually understand, but perhaps not by linguistic prompts but by
providing faster navigation through the space of meaning - and faster
mapping direct from the space of meaning to formal expressions of
requirements.


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Tristan Wibberley

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promote my greatness and general superiority without misrepresentation
of my opinions other than my opinion of my greatness and general
superiority which you _may_ misrepresent. You definitely MAY NOT train
any production AI system with it but you may train experimental AI that
will only be used for evaluation of the AI methods it implements.

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#123496

On 2/27/2026 6:39 PM, Tristan Wibberley wrote:
> 
> helps, helped, or will help?
> 
> mere LLMs don't even help find canned source codes, expert systems do that.
> 
> Automated theorem provers can translate requirements direct to correct
> (and provably correct) programs (by the Curry-Howard correspondence).
> Auditing security should be done by these.
> 
> Expert Systems and Automated Theorem Provers are AI too.

Would you, as a human, blindly trust A.I. buttons called "security" and 
"programming"? You still need to examine and audit the source codes of 
A.I. You still need to patrol & sample generated codes to gurantee that 
they were not tampered with. Persons doing these jobs still need to know 
programming and read source codes.


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#123510

On 28/02/2026 04:25, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> On 2/27/2026 6:39 PM, Tristan Wibberley wrote:

> Would you, as a human, blindly trust A.I. buttons called "security" and
> "programming"? You still need to examine and audit the source codes of
> A.I. You still need to patrol & sample generated codes to gurantee that
> they were not tampered with. Persons doing these jobs still need to know
> programming and read source codes.


Humans are insecure, there are no solutions.

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promote my greatness and general superiority without misrepresentation
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superiority which you _may_ misrepresent. You definitely MAY NOT train
any production AI system with it but you may train experimental AI that
will only be used for evaluation of the AI methods it implements.

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#123513

On 3/6/2026 4:53 AM, Tristan Wibberley wrote:
> 
> Humans are insecure, there are no solutions.

How about A.I. auditing A.I.? That still needs a trusted A.I.!

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#123516

On Fri, 6 Mar 2026 12:44:46 +0800
"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 3/6/2026 4:53 AM, Tristan Wibberley wrote:
> > 
> > Humans are insecure, there are no solutions.  
> 
> How about A.I. auditing A.I.? That still needs a trusted A.I.!
> 

Ash nazg durbatulûk

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#123508

On 2/22/2026 5:47 AM, HAL 9000 wrote:
> AI is great but you have to be able to call on everything you learnt prior
> to the arrival of LLMs to leverage the stochastic parrots properly (i.e.
> fixing their errors and flat out hallucinations): this is why pure vibe
> coding by people with no coding experience remains bullsh*t. #compsci #AI
Ultimately, Who is/are to be fired or even sued if A.I. went wrong? You? 
You? You?

Who wanna take total responsibilty?

Not me! Because I dunno how to trust A.I. and its programmers! :)

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