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| First post | 2022-10-16 10:16 -0500 |
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MIT Professor Michael Sipser validates the notion of a simulating halt decider V2 olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-10-16 10:16 -0500
Re: MIT Professor Michael Sipser validates the notion of a simulating halt decider V2 Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc.corp> - 2022-10-16 16:37 +0100
Re: MIT Professor Michael Sipser validates the notion of a simulating halt decider V2 olcott <none-ya@beez-waxes.com> - 2022-10-16 10:44 -0500
| From | olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2022-10-16 10:16 -0500 |
| Subject | MIT Professor Michael Sipser validates the notion of a simulating halt decider V2 |
| Message-ID | <tih792$35k10$3@dont-email.me> |
<Sipser approved abstract> MIT Professor Michael Sipser has agreed that the following verbatim paragraph is correct (he has not agreed to anything else in this paper): If simulating halt decider H correctly simulates its input D until H correctly determines that its simulated D would never stop running unless aborted then H can abort its simulation of D and correctly report that D specifies a non-halting sequence of configurations. </Sipser approved abstract> to this paper: *Rebutting the Sipser Halting Problem Proof* https://www.researchgate.net/publication/364302709_Rebutting_the_Sipser_Halting_Problem_Proof The proof that the simulation of D by H is correct and that this correctly simulated D would never stop running unless aborted is on page 3 of the above paper. People that fail to comprehend the technical details of page 3 are unqualified to assess the correctness of page 3. The technical prerequisites for page 3 are expert knowledge of the C programming language, knowledge of x86 assembly language and how the C calling conventions are implemented in x86 assembly language. Page 4 shows the application of a simulating halt decider to the Peter Linz proof proving that the "impossible" input ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⟨Ĥ⟩ to the embedded copy of Linz H contained within Linz Ĥ is correctly construed as specifying non-halting sequence of configurations. -- Copyright 2022 Pete Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer
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| From | Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc.corp> |
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| Date | 2022-10-16 16:37 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <20221016163736.00007b9f@reddwarf.jmc.corp> |
| In reply to | #87015 |
On Sun, 16 Oct 2022 10:16:48 -0500 olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> wrote: > <Sipser approved abstract> > MIT Professor Michael Sipser has agreed that the following verbatim > paragraph is correct (he has not agreed to anything else in this > paper): > > If simulating halt decider H correctly simulates its input D until H > correctly determines that its simulated D would never stop running > unless aborted then H can abort its simulation of D and correctly > report that D specifies a non-halting sequence of configurations. > </Sipser approved abstract> > > to this paper: > > *Rebutting the Sipser Halting Problem Proof* > https://www.researchgate.net/publication/364302709_Rebutting_the_Sipser_Halting_Problem_Proof > > The proof that the simulation of D by H is correct and that this > correctly simulated D would never stop running unless aborted is on > page 3 of the above paper. People that fail to comprehend the > technical details of page 3 are unqualified to assess the correctness > of page 3. > > The technical prerequisites for page 3 are expert knowledge of the C > programming language, knowledge of x86 assembly language and how the > C calling conventions are implemented in x86 assembly language. > > Page 4 shows the application of a simulating halt decider to the > Peter Linz proof proving that the "impossible" input ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⟨Ĥ⟩ to the > embedded copy of Linz H contained within Linz Ĥ is correctly > construed as specifying non-halting sequence of configurations. You have been told multiple times now that you are not doing a correct simulation of D so it doesn't matter what Sipser says. The correct simulation of D by H is D behaving as if there was a direction execution of D(D). /Flibble
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| From | olcott <none-ya@beez-waxes.com> |
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| Date | 2022-10-16 10:44 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <tih8t9$1hp2$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #87017 |
On 10/16/2022 10:37 AM, Mr Flibble wrote: > On Sun, 16 Oct 2022 10:16:48 -0500 > olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> wrote: > >> <Sipser approved abstract> >> MIT Professor Michael Sipser has agreed that the following verbatim >> paragraph is correct (he has not agreed to anything else in this >> paper): >> >> If simulating halt decider H correctly simulates its input D until H >> correctly determines that its simulated D would never stop running >> unless aborted then H can abort its simulation of D and correctly >> report that D specifies a non-halting sequence of configurations. >> </Sipser approved abstract> >> >> to this paper: >> >> *Rebutting the Sipser Halting Problem Proof* >> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/364302709_Rebutting_the_Sipser_Halting_Problem_Proof >> >> The proof that the simulation of D by H is correct and that this >> correctly simulated D would never stop running unless aborted is on >> page 3 of the above paper. People that fail to comprehend the >> technical details of page 3 are unqualified to assess the correctness >> of page 3. >> >> The technical prerequisites for page 3 are expert knowledge of the C >> programming language, knowledge of x86 assembly language and how the >> C calling conventions are implemented in x86 assembly language. >> >> Page 4 shows the application of a simulating halt decider to the >> Peter Linz proof proving that the "impossible" input ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⟨Ĥ⟩ to the >> embedded copy of Linz H contained within Linz Ĥ is correctly >> construed as specifying non-halting sequence of configurations. > > You have been told multiple times now that you are not doing a correct > simulation of D By people not having the technical competence (see above technical prerequisites) to verify that this simulation is correct. -- Copyright 2022 Pete Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer
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