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"US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient"

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  "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2016-10-08 15:02 -0500
    "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-10-08 14:31 -0700
      Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2016-10-08 16:47 -0500
        Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" Mr Flibble <flibble@i42.co.uk> - 2016-10-08 23:06 +0100
          Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" woodbrian77@gmail.com - 2016-10-08 18:52 -0700
            Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" red floyd <no.spam@its.invalid> - 2016-10-10 10:23 -0700
              Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" woodbrian77@gmail.com - 2016-10-10 14:45 -0700
                Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-10-10 15:57 -0700
                  Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" woodbrian77@gmail.com - 2016-10-10 18:11 -0700
        Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-10-08 15:50 -0700
          Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" woodbrian77@gmail.com - 2016-10-08 18:50 -0700
            Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-10-08 21:38 -0700
          Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" Christian Gollwitzer <auriocus@gmx.de> - 2016-10-09 09:17 +0200
            Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-10-09 04:32 -0700
              Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2016-10-09 20:27 +0100
                Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-10-09 12:44 -0700
          Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2016-10-09 15:07 -0500
            Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-10-09 17:51 -0700
            Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-10-09 18:07 -0700
              Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-10-09 18:12 -0700
                Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-10-09 18:43 -0700
                  Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-10-09 18:46 -0700
                    Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-10-09 18:52 -0700
                      Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-10-09 18:53 -0700
              Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2016-10-09 22:00 -0500
                Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-10-09 23:31 -0400
                  Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2016-10-10 18:49 +0100
                  Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-10-10 11:04 -0700
                    Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-10-10 17:08 -0400
                Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-10-10 03:23 -0700
                  Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-10-10 11:56 -0700
                    Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-10-10 12:05 -0700
                      Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-10-10 12:09 -0700
                        Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-10-10 12:23 -0700
                          Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-10-10 12:32 -0700
                            Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-10-10 12:38 -0700
                              Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-10-10 12:48 -0700
                                Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-10-10 12:55 -0700
                                  Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-10-10 13:02 -0700
                                    Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-10-10 22:12 +0200
                                    Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-10-10 13:18 -0700
                                      Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-10-11 15:21 -0700
                                  Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-10-10 22:10 +0200
                                  Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-10-10 17:17 -0400
                                Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-10-10 13:01 -0700
                              Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-10-10 21:58 +0200
                                Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-10-10 13:08 -0700
                                  Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-10-10 22:46 +0200
                              Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-10-10 17:15 -0400
                            Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-10-10 21:56 +0200
                              Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-10-10 13:07 -0700
                                Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-10-10 22:16 +0200
                                  Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-10-11 15:34 -0700
                                    Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-10-11 15:42 -0700
                                      Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-10-11 15:49 -0700
                                        Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-10-11 21:06 -0400
                                          Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-10-11 20:57 -0700
                          Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-10-10 12:46 -0700
                        Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-10-10 17:12 -0400
                          Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-10-10 16:22 -0700
                        Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" Ike Naar <ike@iceland.freeshell.org> - 2016-10-11 18:38 +0000
                          Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2016-10-11 15:33 -0700
                      Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-10-10 21:12 +0200
                        Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-10-10 12:17 -0700
                          Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-10-10 21:28 +0200
                            Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-10-10 12:31 -0700
                          Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-10-10 19:56 +0000
                          Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-10-10 17:20 -0400
                    Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2016-10-10 14:37 -0500
                      Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) - 2016-10-10 19:40 +0000
                        Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-10-10 22:03 +0200
                      Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-10-10 12:41 -0700
                        Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-10-10 22:06 +0200
                      Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-10-10 17:21 -0400
              Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-10-10 18:41 -0700
                Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" woodbrian77@gmail.com - 2016-10-10 18:46 -0700
                  Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-10-10 18:53 -0700
                    Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-10-11 04:02 +0200
                      Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-10-11 15:22 -0700
                Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-10-10 19:02 -0700
                  Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-10-11 05:03 -0700
                    Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-10-11 15:23 -0700
                    Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-10-12 16:01 -0700
                      Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 17:20 -0700
                        Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-10-12 18:18 -0700
                          Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 18:26 -0700
                            Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-10-13 12:44 +0000
                              Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-10-13 06:50 -0700
                                Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-10-13 14:26 -0700
      Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2016-10-09 18:42 -0400
        Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-10-09 17:48 -0700
    Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" Real Troll <real.troll@trolls.com> - 2016-10-09 16:20 -0400
      Re: "US judge: end software patents, copyright is sufficient" Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2016-10-10 14:38 -0500

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#45458

From"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>
Date2016-10-10 13:18 -0700
Message-ID<6a625897-47ab-4aad-8d12-89e77625d25d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#45450
On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 4:02:43 PM UTC-4, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> ... Now I can't make a lot of money and I can't get married because its 
> too much of a temptation? LOL!!!!

You are misreading I'm writing, either intentionally or unintentionally.

If you care at all about the truth, seek the truth.  If not, then don't.
God gives you the choice to choose, and it is you who must live or die
from the consequences of your choices, Chris.

I point you to Jesus Christ and give you His teachings as best I'm able.
It's up to you now to do the rest.

Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#45504

From"Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid>
Date2016-10-11 15:21 -0700
Message-ID<ntjoka$49b$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#45458
On 10/10/2016 1:18 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 4:02:43 PM UTC-4, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>> ... Now I can't make a lot of money and I can't get married because its
>> too much of a temptation? LOL!!!!
>
> You are misreading I'm writing, either intentionally or unintentionally.
[...]

moron!

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#45455

FromMelzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com>
Date2016-10-10 22:10 +0200
Message-ID<20161010221021.72dae56e@maxa-pc.cpe.bvcom.net>
In reply to#45445
On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 12:55:32 -0700 (PDT)
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> wrote:

?  Rich people will enter into Heaven.

Hahahhahahhahahhah

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#45465

FromJerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>
Date2016-10-10 17:17 -0400
Message-ID<nth0gs$mca$3@jstuckle.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#45445
On 10/10/2016 3:55 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 3:48:23 PM UTC-4, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>> On 10/10/2016 12:38 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>>> On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 3:32:46 PM UTC-4, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>> On 10/10/2016 12:23 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 3:09:47 PM UTC-4, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/10/2016 12:05 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>>>>>>> On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 2:56:13 PM UTC-4, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 10/10/2016 3:23 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> This is a bunch of buzzwords and gobblygook. You are talking
>>>>>>>>>> about stealing the fruit of my labors.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> God wants us to rely upon Him for the things we need, not our money,
>>>>>>>>> not our strength, not our abilities.
>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you are hungry, how long does it take for God to give you food before
>>>>>>>> you starve to death?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In this world today, you work.  You cast your net into the sea and take
>>>>>>> the coin from the mouth of the first fish you catch, a metaphor for
>>>>>>> getting a job and being content with what the Lord gives you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Writing software is work, damn it. Selling many copies is not a sin,
>>>>>> damn it! What the heck is wrong with you man?!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ;^o
>>>>>
>>>>> If you look back over these posts, at no point have I said don't sell
>>>>> software.  What I have said is don't sell beyond the cost of the labor
>>>>> investment.
>>>>
>>>> You think the cost of labor is the only expense? lol. Man, you are out
>>>> of your mind.
>>>
>>> The cost of labor includes fixed costs associated with production, but
>>> it is the motion of man creating and doing that it refers to (ongoing
>>> work).
>>
>> You are totally delusional!
>>
>>>
>>>> It is not a sin to make a profit. Its not a sin to make a
>>>> .. load of money. God is not a communist hive mind.
>>>
>>> He says it twice:
>>>
>>>     http://biblehub.com/kjv/matthew/19.htm
>>>
>>>     23 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That
>>>        a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.
>>>     24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through
>>>        the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom
>>>        of God.
>>>
>>> There's a famous quote about this passage.  A man lay dying and some
>>> came and asked him what he needed before he died?  He replied:  "A
>>> very small camel and a very large needle."
>>
>> What is your definition of rich, Rick?
>>
>> Now you are trying to say that God is going to send everybody that has a 
>> nice amount of money to Hell. Wow, this God of yours is a total monster 
>> as%hole.
> 
> It's not the money that is bad.  Rich people will enter into Heaven.  But
> when a person has riches they are focused on their riches, on keeping
> them, on acquiring more.  It is a drawing in one's life that demands
> attention, and it prevents one from doing work for the Lord as a person
> seeking more money will more often make sacrifices in quality or in some
> other area so as to decrease costs and increase revenue.
> 
> God would save a person from that distraction, and have them operate in a
> way which continually keeps them on their knees acknowledging Him as the
> source of that which they have been given, and could ever be given.  It
> is a happy place to be.
> 
> BTW, Paul even warns about getting married.  A married person seeks to
> please their spouse.  A single person seeks to please the Lord.  A married
> person will necessarily (and rightly) focus their attention and time on
> pleasing their spouse, on meeting their needs ... but a single person will
> have that time to devote to the Lord.
>

Yes, definitely don't get married.  Women are the root of all evil!
Instead, hire a prostitute to satisfy your needs!

> Paul suggests it's better to remain single, but that not all people can
> do this.  It is not a command, just guidance for those in this world who
> want to serve the Lord to the uttermost.
> 

Promoting adultery!

>     http://biblehub.com/kjv/1_corinthians/7-34.htm
> 
>     34 There is difference also between a wife and a virgin. The
>        unmarried woman careth for the things of the Lord, that she
>        may be holy both in body and in spirit: but she that is married
>        careth for the things of the world, how she may please her husband.
> 
> It's not a command to not marry, but information for the discerning person
> who will choose the things of their life.  It is a teaching that the
> married person will have focus and attention on things which are not
> explicitly of the Lord, but are of the world and of their spouse's needs.
> As a married person who is also a believer, I can tell you it's 100% true.
> 
> Best regards,
> Rick C. Hodgin
> 

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#45449

From"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>
Date2016-10-10 13:01 -0700
Message-ID<bd44b725-9eb6-4286-a8dc-54e7f5d9d074@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#45444
On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 3:48:23 PM UTC-4, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> On 10/10/2016 12:38 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> > On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 3:32:46 PM UTC-4, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> >> On 10/10/2016 12:23 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> >>> On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 3:09:47 PM UTC-4, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> >>>> On 10/10/2016 12:05 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> >>>>> On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 2:56:13 PM UTC-4, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> >>>>>> On 10/10/2016 3:23 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> >>>>>>> Lynn McGuire wrote:
> >>>>>>>> This is a bunch of buzzwords and gobblygook. You are talking
> >>>>>>>> about stealing the fruit of my labors.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> God wants us to rely upon Him for the things we need, not our money,
> >>>>>>> not our strength, not our abilities.
> >>>>>> [...]
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If you are hungry, how long does it take for God to give you food before
> >>>>>> you starve to death?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In this world today, you work.  You cast your net into the sea and take
> >>>>> the coin from the mouth of the first fish you catch, a metaphor for
> >>>>> getting a job and being content with what the Lord gives you.
> >>>>
> >>>> Writing software is work, damn it. Selling many copies is not a sin,
> >>>> damn it! What the heck is wrong with you man?!
> >>>>
> >>>> ;^o
> >>>
> >>> If you look back over these posts, at no point have I said don't sell
> >>> software.  What I have said is don't sell beyond the cost of the labor
> >>> investment.
> >>
> >> You think the cost of labor is the only expense? lol. Man, you are out
> >> of your mind.
> >
> > The cost of labor includes fixed costs associated with production, but
> > it is the motion of man creating and doing that it refers to (ongoing
> > work).
> 
> You are totally delusional!

There aren't many examples of this in the world, so it would seem to be
a bad idea.  Satan always enters in and destroys all such efforts through
the sin living in each of us in our flesh.  He makes the cooperation and
surrender unto God system seem like a cult, and something to be avoided.

It's not a model that has been successful because of sin.  And I've had
thoughts that it might not even be truly possible here on Earth because
of sin, but as I have those thoughts I also remember:

    http://biblehub.com/kjv/philippians/4-13.htm
    13 I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.

It requires that focus on Him, that willingness to put all of our faith
and trust in Him.  To do our part, but to call upon His name.  And there's
more to it than just my opinion or beliefs in this area.  I may have ideas
that are appropriate, but won't work at a particular time (or ever), so
the Lord doesn't just let me run out there with reckless abandon.  He is
the Good Shepherd, and He watches over His sheep.  He will protect me from
making horrible mistakes.  Or rescue me from them if I make them.  He's
done it time and time and time again. :-)

To live a life in submission to Jesus Christ, looking to Him for all things,
honoring Him with everything we possess in our lives ... this is what He is
seeking.  To worship Him in spirit and truth, with the spirit leading, and
our bodies falling in line behind His guidance through the spirit, unto the
good works of His here on Earth for Him, for our fellow man.

It's a tall calling ... and I haven't personally met anyone yet who is up
for it.  And I'm still learning the details of how to proceed, because I
haven't even heard teachings from pastors on how to do it.  They all say
that because of sin it will not work.  But I know Jesus Christ defeated
sin at the cross.  And if we have faith to trust in Him we can accomplish
anything together.

Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#45448

FromMelzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com>
Date2016-10-10 21:58 +0200
Message-ID<20161010215815.2e583c23@maxa-pc.cpe.bvcom.net>
In reply to#45439
On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 12:38:41 -0700 (PDT)
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 3:32:46 PM UTC-4, Chris M. Thomasson
> wrote:
> > On 10/10/2016 12:23 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:  
> > > On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 3:09:47 PM UTC-4, Chris M.
> > > Thomasson wrote:  
> > >> On 10/10/2016 12:05 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:  
> > >>> On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 2:56:13 PM UTC-4, Chris M.
> > >>> Thomasson wrote:  
> > >>>> On 10/10/2016 3:23 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:  
> > >>>>> Lynn McGuire wrote:  
> > >>>>>> This is a bunch of buzzwords and gobblygook. You are talking
> > >>>>>> about stealing the fruit of my labors.  
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> God wants us to rely upon Him for the things we need, not our
> > >>>>> money, not our strength, not our abilities.  
> > >>>> [...]
> > >>>>
> > >>>> If you are hungry, how long does it take for God to give you
> > >>>> food before you starve to death?  
> > >>>
> > >>> In this world today, you work.  You cast your net into the sea
> > >>> and take the coin from the mouth of the first fish you catch, a
> > >>> metaphor for getting a job and being content with what the Lord
> > >>> gives you.  
> > >>
> > >> Writing software is work, damn it. Selling many copies is not a
> > >> sin, damn it! What the heck is wrong with you man?!
> > >>
> > >> ;^o  
> > >
> > > If you look back over these posts, at no point have I said don't
> > > sell software.  What I have said is don't sell beyond the cost of
> > > the labor investment.  
> > 
> > You think the cost of labor is the only expense? lol. Man, you are
> > out of your mind.  
> 
> The cost of labor includes fixed costs associated with production, but
> it is the motion of man creating and doing that it refers to (ongoing
> work).
> 
> > It is not a sin to make a profit. Its not a sin to make a 
> > .. load of money. God is not a communist hive mind.  
> 
> He says it twice:
> 
>     http://biblehub.com/kjv/matthew/19.htm
> 
>     23 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That
>        a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.
>     24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go
> through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the
> kingdom of God.
> 
> There's a famous quote about this passage.  A man lay dying and some
> came and asked him what he needed before he died?  He replied:  "A
> very small camel and a very large needle."
> 
> Best regards,
> Rick C. Hodgin

eye of nidle is name of narrow passage at that time. It is
mistranslated actually.

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#45454

From"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>
Date2016-10-10 13:08 -0700
Message-ID<ea4075bf-8b17-434e-8997-c1f179f49746@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#45448
On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 3:58:25 PM UTC-4, Melzzzzz wrote:
> eye of nidle is name of narrow passage at that time. It is
> mistranslated actually.

Have never heard that before.  And given the prior conveyances you've
had regarding scripture, I will have to see proof of that from a
Biblical scholar.

Here's what the original Greek tells us about those passages:

    http://biblehub.com/text/matthew/19-24.htm

    eye -- http://biblehub.com/greek/5169.htm
    of a needle -- http://biblehub.com/greek/raphidos_4476.htm
    to pass -- http://biblehub.com/greek/1525.htm

Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#45460

FromMelzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com>
Date2016-10-10 22:46 +0200
Message-ID<20161010224634.1b0f6482@maxa-pc.cpe.bvcom.net>
In reply to#45454
On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 13:08:35 -0700 (PDT)
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 3:58:25 PM UTC-4, Melzzzzz wrote:
> > eye of nidle is name of narrow passage at that time. It is
> > mistranslated actually.  
> 
> Have never heard that before.  And given the prior conveyances you've
> had regarding scripture, I will have to see proof of that from a
> Biblical scholar.

Pfffffffffffffttttttttttttttt.
It's enough to quote C++ standard, now you want to quote biblical
scholars ;))))))0


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#45464

FromJerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>
Date2016-10-10 17:15 -0400
Message-ID<nth0cu$mca$2@jstuckle.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#45439
On 10/10/2016 3:38 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 3:32:46 PM UTC-4, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>> On 10/10/2016 12:23 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>>> On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 3:09:47 PM UTC-4, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>> On 10/10/2016 12:05 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 2:56:13 PM UTC-4, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/10/2016 3:23 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>>>>>>> Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>>>>>> This is a bunch of buzzwords and gobblygook. You are talking
>>>>>>>> about stealing the fruit of my labors.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> God wants us to rely upon Him for the things we need, not our money,
>>>>>>> not our strength, not our abilities.
>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you are hungry, how long does it take for God to give you food before
>>>>>> you starve to death?
>>>>>
>>>>> In this world today, you work.  You cast your net into the sea and take
>>>>> the coin from the mouth of the first fish you catch, a metaphor for
>>>>> getting a job and being content with what the Lord gives you.
>>>>
>>>> Writing software is work, damn it. Selling many copies is not a sin,
>>>> damn it! What the heck is wrong with you man?!
>>>>
>>>> ;^o
>>>
>>> If you look back over these posts, at no point have I said don't sell
>>> software.  What I have said is don't sell beyond the cost of the labor
>>> investment.
>>
>> You think the cost of labor is the only expense? lol. Man, you are out 
>> of your mind.
> 
> The cost of labor includes fixed costs associated with production, but
> it is the motion of man creating and doing that it refers to (ongoing
> work).
>

You've never run a business, Rick.  The cost of labor is separate from
non-labor costs, both fixed and variable.  And it has to be tracked
separately for tax and insurance purposes.  All added together gives the
cost of production.

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#45446

FromMelzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com>
Date2016-10-10 21:56 +0200
Message-ID<20161010215629.7da637e2@maxa-pc.cpe.bvcom.net>
In reply to#45437
On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 12:32:37 -0700
"Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On 10/10/2016 12:23 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> > On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 3:09:47 PM UTC-4, Chris M. Thomasson
> > wrote:  
> >> On 10/10/2016 12:05 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:  
> >>> On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 2:56:13 PM UTC-4, Chris M.
> >>> Thomasson wrote:  
> >>>> On 10/10/2016 3:23 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:  
> >>>>> Lynn McGuire wrote:  
> >>>>>> This is a bunch of buzzwords and gobblygook. You are talking
> >>>>>> about stealing the fruit of my labors.  
> >>>>>
> >>>>> God wants us to rely upon Him for the things we need, not our
> >>>>> money, not our strength, not our abilities.  
> >>>> [...]
> >>>>
> >>>> If you are hungry, how long does it take for God to give you
> >>>> food before you starve to death?  
> >>>
> >>> In this world today, you work.  You cast your net into the sea
> >>> and take the coin from the mouth of the first fish you catch, a
> >>> metaphor for getting a job and being content with what the Lord
> >>> gives you.  
> >>
> >> Writing software is work, damn it. Selling many copies is not a
> >> sin, damn it! What the heck is wrong with you man?!
> >>
> >> ;^o  
> >
> > If you look back over these posts, at no point have I said don't
> > sell software.  What I have said is don't sell beyond the cost of
> > the labor investment.  
> 
> You think the cost of labor is the only expense? lol. Man, you are
> out of your mind. It is not a sin to make a profit.

It is. Heavens gates are closed for such...

 Its not a sin to
> make a shi% load of money. God is not a communist hive mind.

Jesus was explicit. It is easier for donkey to pass through narrow
passage then rich to enter Kingdom of Heaven.
Jesus also said that if you want to enter KOH you have to give up on
wealth and follow him.

> 
> damn it!
> 
> [...]



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#45453

From"Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid>
Date2016-10-10 13:07 -0700
Message-ID<ntgse7$80b$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#45446
On 10/10/2016 12:56 PM, Melzzzzz wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 12:32:37 -0700
> "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 10/10/2016 12:23 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>>> On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 3:09:47 PM UTC-4, Chris M. Thomasson
>>> wrote:
>>>> On 10/10/2016 12:05 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 2:56:13 PM UTC-4, Chris M.
>>>>> Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/10/2016 3:23 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>>>>>>> Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>>>>>> This is a bunch of buzzwords and gobblygook. You are talking
>>>>>>>> about stealing the fruit of my labors.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> God wants us to rely upon Him for the things we need, not our
>>>>>>> money, not our strength, not our abilities.
>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you are hungry, how long does it take for God to give you
>>>>>> food before you starve to death?
>>>>>
>>>>> In this world today, you work.  You cast your net into the sea
>>>>> and take the coin from the mouth of the first fish you catch, a
>>>>> metaphor for getting a job and being content with what the Lord
>>>>> gives you.
>>>>
>>>> Writing software is work, damn it. Selling many copies is not a
>>>> sin, damn it! What the heck is wrong with you man?!
>>>>
>>>> ;^o
>>>
>>> If you look back over these posts, at no point have I said don't
>>> sell software.  What I have said is don't sell beyond the cost of
>>> the labor investment.
>>
>> You think the cost of labor is the only expense? lol. Man, you are
>> out of your mind. It is not a sin to make a profit.
>
> It is. Heavens gates are closed for such...

Well, that sucks.


>
>  Its not a sin to
>> make a shi% load of money. God is not a communist hive mind.
>
> Jesus was explicit. It is easier for donkey to pass through narrow
> passage then rich to enter Kingdom of Heaven.
> Jesus also said that if you want to enter KOH you have to give up on
> wealth and follow him.

damn. Now I have to give all my money away and start preaching the bible 
in the streets! What a life.

BTW, Rick is insane.

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#45457

FromMelzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com>
Date2016-10-10 22:16 +0200
Message-ID<20161010221621.07a7cad0@maxa-pc.cpe.bvcom.net>
In reply to#45453
On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 13:07:53 -0700
"Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On 10/10/2016 12:56 PM, Melzzzzz wrote:
> > On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 12:32:37 -0700
> > "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >  
> >> On 10/10/2016 12:23 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:  
> >>> On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 3:09:47 PM UTC-4, Chris M.
> >>> Thomasson wrote:  
> >>>> On 10/10/2016 12:05 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:  
> >>>>> On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 2:56:13 PM UTC-4, Chris M.
> >>>>> Thomasson wrote:  
> >>>>>> On 10/10/2016 3:23 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:  
> >>>>>>> Lynn McGuire wrote:  
> >>>>>>>> This is a bunch of buzzwords and gobblygook. You are talking
> >>>>>>>> about stealing the fruit of my labors.  
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> God wants us to rely upon Him for the things we need, not our
> >>>>>>> money, not our strength, not our abilities.  
> >>>>>> [...]
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If you are hungry, how long does it take for God to give you
> >>>>>> food before you starve to death?  
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In this world today, you work.  You cast your net into the sea
> >>>>> and take the coin from the mouth of the first fish you catch, a
> >>>>> metaphor for getting a job and being content with what the Lord
> >>>>> gives you.  
> >>>>
> >>>> Writing software is work, damn it. Selling many copies is not a
> >>>> sin, damn it! What the heck is wrong with you man?!
> >>>>
> >>>> ;^o  
> >>>
> >>> If you look back over these posts, at no point have I said don't
> >>> sell software.  What I have said is don't sell beyond the cost of
> >>> the labor investment.  
> >>
> >> You think the cost of labor is the only expense? lol. Man, you are
> >> out of your mind. It is not a sin to make a profit.  
> >
> > It is. Heavens gates are closed for such...  
> 
> Well, that sucks.
> 
Of course.

> 
> >
> >  Its not a sin to  
> >> make a shi% load of money. God is not a communist hive mind.  
> >
> > Jesus was explicit. It is easier for donkey to pass through narrow
> > passage then rich to enter Kingdom of Heaven.
> > Jesus also said that if you want to enter KOH you have to give up on
> > wealth and follow him.  
> 
> damn. Now I have to give all my money away and start preaching the
> bible in the streets! What a life.

Some actually did that. Christianity is actually self destructive cult.
You have to give up on this life in order to gain eternal life.
You have to die for this world. That's clear message.
What Romans (especially Byzantine) did to this is that wealthy man and
man of questionable morality became saints. Even brother killers.


> 
> BTW, Rick is insane.
> 



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#45508

From"Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid>
Date2016-10-11 15:34 -0700
Message-ID<ntjpcn$49b$6@dont-email.me>
In reply to#45457
On 10/10/2016 1:16 PM, Melzzzzz wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 13:07:53 -0700
> "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 10/10/2016 12:56 PM, Melzzzzz wrote:
>>> On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 12:32:37 -0700
>>> "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/10/2016 12:23 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 3:09:47 PM UTC-4, Chris M.
>>>>> Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/10/2016 12:05 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>>>>>>> On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 2:56:13 PM UTC-4, Chris M.
>>>>>>> Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 10/10/2016 3:23 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> This is a bunch of buzzwords and gobblygook. You are talking
>>>>>>>>>> about stealing the fruit of my labors.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> God wants us to rely upon Him for the things we need, not our
>>>>>>>>> money, not our strength, not our abilities.
>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you are hungry, how long does it take for God to give you
>>>>>>>> food before you starve to death?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In this world today, you work.  You cast your net into the sea
>>>>>>> and take the coin from the mouth of the first fish you catch, a
>>>>>>> metaphor for getting a job and being content with what the Lord
>>>>>>> gives you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Writing software is work, damn it. Selling many copies is not a
>>>>>> sin, damn it! What the heck is wrong with you man?!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ;^o
>>>>>
>>>>> If you look back over these posts, at no point have I said don't
>>>>> sell software.  What I have said is don't sell beyond the cost of
>>>>> the labor investment.
>>>>
>>>> You think the cost of labor is the only expense? lol. Man, you are
>>>> out of your mind. It is not a sin to make a profit.
>>>
>>> It is. Heavens gates are closed for such...
>>
>> Well, that sucks.
>>
> Of course.
>
>>
>>>
>>>  Its not a sin to
>>>> make a shi% load of money. God is not a communist hive mind.
>>>
>>> Jesus was explicit. It is easier for donkey to pass through narrow
>>> passage then rich to enter Kingdom of Heaven.
>>> Jesus also said that if you want to enter KOH you have to give up on
>>> wealth and follow him.
>>
>> damn. Now I have to give all my money away and start preaching the
>> bible in the streets! What a life.
>
> Some actually did that. Christianity is actually self destructive cult.
> You have to give up on this life in order to gain eternal life.
> You have to die for this world. That's clear message.
> What Romans (especially Byzantine) did to this is that wealthy man and
> man of questionable morality became saints. Even brother killers.
>
>
>>
>> BTW, Rick is insane.

I would like to be a Christian that is not totally insane... DAMN IT!

People like the infinite moron, anti-god:Rick, makes this damn near 
impossible.

;^I

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#45509

From"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>
Date2016-10-11 15:42 -0700
Message-ID<7b76108a-efaf-40b7-8cf3-cd69c0efa001@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#45508
How old are you, Chris?

Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#45510

From"Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid>
Date2016-10-11 15:49 -0700
Message-ID<ntjq8q$an6$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#45509
On 10/11/2016 3:42 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> How old are you, Chris?
Born in late 77.

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#45512

FromJerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>
Date2016-10-11 21:06 -0400
Message-ID<ntk29c$sr6$2@jstuckle.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#45510
On 10/11/2016 6:49 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> On 10/11/2016 3:42 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>> How old are you, Chris?
> Born in late 77.
> 

What difference does it make?

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#45513

From"Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid>
Date2016-10-11 20:57 -0700
Message-ID<ntkcau$e3a$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#45512
On 10/11/2016 6:06 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> On 10/11/2016 6:49 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>> On 10/11/2016 3:42 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>>> How old are you, Chris?
>> Born in late 77.
>>
>
> What difference does it make?

Humm... Yeah... Now that you mention it, Rick's question does sound a 
creepy...  ;^)

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#45443

From"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>
Date2016-10-10 12:46 -0700
Message-ID<0946feeb-8ebc-48a1-bec8-802a468367c6@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#45434
On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 3:23:28 PM UTC-4, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 3:09:47 PM UTC-4, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> > On 10/10/2016 12:05 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> > > On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 2:56:13 PM UTC-4, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> > >> On 10/10/2016 3:23 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> > >>> Lynn McGuire wrote:
> > >>>> This is a bunch of buzzwords and gobblygook. You are talking
> > >>>> about stealing the fruit of my labors.
> > >>>
> > >>> God wants us to rely upon Him for the things we need, not our money,
> > >>> not our strength, not our abilities.
> > >> [...]
> > >>
> > >> If you are hungry, how long does it take for God to give you food before
> > >> you starve to death?
> > >
> > > In this world today, you work.  You cast your net into the sea and take
> > > the coin from the mouth of the first fish you catch, a metaphor for
> > > getting a job and being content with what the Lord gives you.
> > 
> > Writing software is work, damn it. Selling many copies is not a sin, 
> > damn it! What the heck is wrong with you man?!
> > 
> > ;^o
> 
> If you look back over these posts, at no point have I said don't sell
> software.  What I have said is don't sell beyond the cost of the labor
> investment.
> 
> The love of money is the root of all evil.  Money itself is not evil,
> just like heroine itself is not evil.  But having it in abundance in
> continuous close proximity, Satan uses the temptation it provides to
> entice people unto sin.  How many are strong enough to continually
> avoid the sinful side of the temptations associated with it?  Not many.
> And if it's not money that will take you down, there's something.  The
> flesh is weak, which is why we need to be born again of the spirit.
> 
> Satan is no slouch.  He knows how to defeat you.  He's studied you since
> you were young, and he has in all people's case.  It's why we need Jesus
> Christ, so that we can overcome in Him because He can see the traps the
> vicious enemy Satan places before us, and He can protect us from them.
> 
>     http://biblehub.com/kjv/proverbs/30.htm
> 
>     7 Two things have I required of thee; deny me them not before I die:
>     8 Remove far from me vanity and lies: give me neither poverty nor
>       riches; feed me with food convenient for me:
>     9 Lest I be full, and deny thee, and say, Who is the LORD? or lest
>       I be poor, and steal, and take the name of my God in vain.
> 
> It is of God's wisdom that He keeps us in labor for our needs.  It is
> Satan's plan of foolishness that we have soft lives of non-want, for
> there is his playground of enticing sin for us to traipse through at
> our leisure.

He also warns about this in Revelation to John.  Lukewarm Christianity:

    http://biblehub.com/kjv/revelation/3.htm

    14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These
       things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the
       beginning of the creation of God;

    15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would
       thou wert cold or hot.
    16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot,
       I will spue thee out of my mouth.
    17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and
       have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched,
       and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:

    18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou
       mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed,
       and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint
       thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
    19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore,
       and repent.
    20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice,
       and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him,
       and he with me.
    21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne,
       even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his
       throne.
    22 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the
       churches.

Who has an ear to hear what the Spirit says unto the churches?

Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#45463

FromJerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>
Date2016-10-10 17:12 -0400
Message-ID<nth081$mca$1@jstuckle.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#45431
On 10/10/2016 3:09 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> On 10/10/2016 12:05 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>> On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 2:56:13 PM UTC-4, Chris M. Thomasson
>> wrote:
>>> On 10/10/2016 3:23 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>>>> Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>>> This is a bunch of buzzwords and gobblygook. You are talking
>>>>> about stealing the fruit of my labors.
>>>>
>>>> God wants us to rely upon Him for the things we need, not our money,
>>>> not our strength, not our abilities.
>>> [...]
>>>
>>> If you are hungry, how long does it take for God to give you food before
>>> you starve to death?
>>
>> In this world today, you work.  You cast your net into the sea and take
>> the coin from the mouth of the first fish you catch, a metaphor for
>> getting a job and being content with what the Lord gives you.
> 
> Writing software is work, damn it. Selling many copies is not a sin,
> damn it! What the heck is wrong with you man?!
> 
> ;^o
> 

Well, let's see.  I can spend $100,000 worth of my time writing a great
program.  I can sell 0 copies at $100,000 ea.  Or I can sell 20,000
copies at $10 ea.

I the first case, I am hungry, homeless and without means to make more
money because my computer died and I can't afford to fix/replace it.  In
the second case, I have a warm home for my family, food on the table and
money left over to buy new equipment.

But according to Rick, I can't sell the copies. I can only sell the
original.

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#45475

From"Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid>
Date2016-10-10 16:22 -0700
Message-ID<nth7qh$df0$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#45463
On 10/10/2016 2:12 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> On 10/10/2016 3:09 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>> On 10/10/2016 12:05 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>>> On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 2:56:13 PM UTC-4, Chris M. Thomasson
>>> wrote:
>>>> On 10/10/2016 3:23 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>>>>> Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>>>> This is a bunch of buzzwords and gobblygook. You are talking
>>>>>> about stealing the fruit of my labors.
>>>>>
>>>>> God wants us to rely upon Him for the things we need, not our money,
>>>>> not our strength, not our abilities.
>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>> If you are hungry, how long does it take for God to give you food before
>>>> you starve to death?
>>>
>>> In this world today, you work.  You cast your net into the sea and take
>>> the coin from the mouth of the first fish you catch, a metaphor for
>>> getting a job and being content with what the Lord gives you.
>>
>> Writing software is work, damn it. Selling many copies is not a sin,
>> damn it! What the heck is wrong with you man?!
>>
>> ;^o
>>
>
> Well, let's see.  I can spend $100,000 worth of my time writing a great
> program.  I can sell 0 copies at $100,000 ea.  Or I can sell 20,000
> copies at $10 ea.

Damn right.


>
> I the first case, I am hungry, homeless and without means to make more
> money because my computer died and I can't afford to fix/replace it.  In
> the second case, I have a warm home for my family, food on the table and
> money left over to buy new equipment.
>
> But according to Rick, I can't sell the copies. I can only sell the
> original.

AFAICT, I think, in his wacky world of radically intense insanity, God 
only allows one to sell a 100,000$ worth at 1 dollar a unit. This is 
because you performed a 100,000$ worth of labor. But, according to Rick, 
God's right hand man, if you make any money over a 100 grand and keep 
the profits for your family's well being, then you are equal to the sins 
of hi%ler, because, hey man, sin is sin is sin, ya know?

Damn, rick is nuts! And be the way, Rick is promoting God as a hardcore, 
communist hive mind dictator, hyper-jealous demented wack job. That 
wants his creations to be on their knees, and be happy about it!

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