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Viswath & Charmaigne (vector-wide scalar-word and character machines)

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First post2026-07-27 11:43 -0700
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  Viswath & Charmaigne (vector-wide scalar-word and character machines) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-27 11:43 -0700
    Re: Viswath & Charmaigne (vector-wide scalar-word and character machines) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-28 02:47 +0800
      Re: Viswath & Charmaigne (vector-wide scalar-word and character machines) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-27 15:07 -0700
        Re: Viswath & Charmaigne (vector-wide scalar-word and character machines) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-28 00:25 +0200
          Re: Viswath & Charmaigne (vector-wide scalar-word and character machines) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-27 16:09 -0700
            Re: Viswath & Charmaigne (vector-wide scalar-word and character machines) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-27 16:33 -0700
          Re: Viswath & Charmaigne (vector-wide scalar-word and character machines) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-27 15:48 -0700
        Re: Viswath & Charmaigne (vector-wide scalar-word and character machines) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 07:44 -0700
          You are still chewing on SIMD. LoL (Was: Viswath & Charmaigne) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 17:11 +0200
            Re: You are still chewing on SIMD. LoL (Was: Viswath & Charmaigne) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 08:25 -0700
              Re: You are still chewing on SIMD. LoL (Was: Viswath & Charmaigne) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-29 23:49 +0800
                Re: You are still chewing on SIMD. LoL (Was: Viswath & Charmaigne) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 08:59 -0700
                I don't care about Java, pi-WAM is pi-calculus and WAM (Re: You are still chewing on SIMD. LoL) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 18:05 +0200
                  Underneath pi-WAM is Hack VM, you can goto (Was: I don't care about Java, pi-WAM is pi-calculus and WAM) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 18:09 +0200
                    New addition to π-WAM is π-WAM Assembly (Was: Underneath pi-WAM is Hack VM, you can goto) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-09 19:45 +0200
                  Re: I don't care about Java, pi-WAM is pi-calculus and WAM (Re: You are still chewing on SIMD. LoL) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 09:11 -0700
                    A yellow mustard called Rossy Body (Was: I don't care about Java, pi-WAM is pi-calculus and WAM) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 18:30 +0200
                      Ignoramus or Ignorabimus: I don't care (π-WAM) (Was: A yellow mustard called Rossy Body) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 18:31 +0200
            Hurry Rossy Boy, the blue bus is waiting (Was: You are still chewing on SIMD. LoL) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 17:32 +0200
              Re: Hurry Rossy Boy, the blue bus is waiting (Was: You are still chewing on SIMD. LoL) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 08:36 -0700
              Look how they advertized CUDA and logical threads (Was: Hurry Rossy Boy, the blue bus is waiting) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 17:43 +0200
                Forget any arithmetization of product FSA (Was: Look how they advertized CUDA and logical threads) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 17:47 +0200
                  comp.lang.lisp (was: Re: Forget any arithmetization of product FSA) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-29 23:53 +0800
                Re: Look how they advertized CUDA and logical threads (Was: Hurry Rossy Boy, the blue bus is waiting) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 08:53 -0700
            There are two versions of Hack VM (Was: You are still chewing on SIMD. LoL) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 18:14 +0200
              Hack VM has also a Prolog spec (Was: There are two versions of Hack VM) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 18:17 +0200
                A better compiler is planned / What do you target? (Was: Hack VM has also a Prolog spec) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 18:22 +0200
                  It’s called . . . . enshittification (About the price tag for using a multifile/1) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-14 00:50 +0200
            Budget AI Laptop 2026 versus Cray T3D 1995 (Re: You are still chewing on SIMD. LoL) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-05 14:24 +0200
      A brain desease of 20 days [Rossy Boy] (Was: Viswath & Charmaigne (vector-wide scalar-word and character machines)) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 18:38 +0200
        Rossy Boys tears could cool a data center [pi-WAM Interleaved Synchronized Emulator] Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 20:05 +0200
          Re: Rossy Boys tears could cool a data center [pi-WAM Interleaved Synchronized Emulator] Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 11:13 -0700
            I don't use Rust, you are crazy [Jump off a bridge, idiot] (Was: Rossy Boys tears could cool a data center [pi-WAM Interleaved Synchronized Emulator]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 20:22 +0200
              Standing on the shoulders of giants (Re: I don't use Rust, you are crazy [Jump off a bridge, idiot]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-04 03:20 +0200
                You Thief! Stealing Szemeredi, Aristotle, Leibniz, etc.. (Re: Standing on the shoulders of giants) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-04 15:18 +0200
                  How Rossy Boys plagiarism works [Copy Paste Slop] (Re: You Thief! Stealing Szemeredi, Aristotle, Leibniz, etc..) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-04 17:56 +0200
            Postgres is in C! Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-30 03:46 +0800
              Re: Postgres is in C! Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 13:47 -0700
                Please don't extend your cross posting / What does abstract mean? (Was: Postgres is in C!) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 23:00 +0200
                  Re: Please don't extend your cross posting / What does abstract mean? (Was: Postgres is in C!) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-30 21:05 +0800
                    Re: Please don't extend your cross posting / What does abstract mean? (Was: Postgres is in C!) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-07-30 14:46 +0000
                    Re: Please don't extend your cross posting / What does abstract mean? Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-07-30 16:00 +0000
                Please don't extend your cross posting / What does abstract mean? (Was: Postgres is in C!) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 23:05 +0200
                Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java (was: Re: Postgres is in C!) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-30 21:20 +0800
                  Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-30 06:59 -0700
                    Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-30 07:24 -0700
                      Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-05 09:58 +0800
                    Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-30 23:19 +0800
                      Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-30 09:23 -0700
                        Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-30 09:36 -0700
                          Decorum (was: Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-31 23:07 +0800
                            Re: Decorum Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-31 23:09 +0800
                            Re: Decorum Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-31 08:36 -0700
                              Re: Decorum Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-31 08:44 -0700
                              Re: Decorum Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-05 10:38 +0800
                        Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-05 10:15 +0800
                          Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-08-04 23:31 -0700
                            Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-05 12:42 -0700
                              Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-08-05 13:24 -0700
                                Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-05 13:30 -0700
                                Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-08-05 13:45 -0700
                            Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-08-05 20:42 -0700
                              Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-07 09:55 +0800
                                Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-08-07 05:13 -0700
                                  Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-08-07 05:59 -0700
                            Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-07 09:53 +0800
                              Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-08-06 20:11 -0700
              Hack ecosystem ignorance paired with paranoia [Nand to Tetris] (Re: Postgres is in C!) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 22:49 +0200
                A funny Q16.16 experiment with Hack (Was: Hack ecosystem ignorance paired with paranoia [Nand to Tetris]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 23:10 +0200
                  Summer Challenge: libSQL = Prolog+Modes [VDBE versus π-WAM] (Re: A funny Q16.16 experiment with Hack) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-30 11:27 +0200
                    Re: Bullshit Authorized by Sarah Connor [EyeProlog Failure] (Re: Summer Challenge: libSQL = Prolog+Modes [VDBE versus π-WAM]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-12 20:30 +0200
                RCan library(ironpaw) repurpose FFT hardware [Glimps into Ryzen AI 7 350] (Re: Hack ecosystem ignorance paired with paranoia) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-01 02:33 +0200
                Can library(ironpaw) repurpose FFT hardware [Glimps into Ryzen AI 7 350] (Re: Hack ecosystem ignorance paired with paranoia) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-01 02:34 +0200
              Turbo Vison, again (was: Re: Postgres is in C!) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-30 21:31 +0800
        He uses "FIFO objects", and DMA and Noc [Glimps into Ryzen AI 7 350] (Re: A brain desease of 20 days [Rossy Boy])) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-01 12:15 +0200
          Tablet and phone UBS-C remote debugging (Re: He uses "FIFO objects", and DMA and Noc) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-01 12:18 +0200
            NPUs doing 2d chess comms (Manhattan Distance or L1 Norm) (Re: Tablet and phone UBS-C remote debugging) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-01 14:11 +0200
              NACK retransmission might double Manhattan Distance (Re: NPUs doing 2d chess comms) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-01 14:23 +0200
    Rossy Boy is neither Einstein nor Zweistein (Re: Viswath & Charmaigne) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-27 21:18 +0200
      Re: Rossy Boy is neither Einstein nor Zweistein (Re: Viswath & Charmaigne) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-27 15:35 -0700
        Clueless about MIMD as usual [Flynn's Taxonomy] (Was: Rossy Boy is neither Einstein nor Zweistein) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-28 11:25 +0200
          Re: Clueless about MIMD as usual [Flynn's Taxonomy] (Was: Rossy Boy is neither Einstein nor Zweistein) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-28 20:39 -0700
            confused rossy boy is confused (Was: Clueless about MIMD as usual [Flynn's Taxonomy]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 11:15 +0200
              Gemini, DeepSeek, OpenAI more clever than rossy boy (Was: confused rossy boy is confused) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 11:18 +0200
              Re: confused rossy boy is confused (Was: Clueless about MIMD as usual [Flynn's Taxonomy]) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-29 17:21 +0800
                In AI Acceleration nobody cares about CivetWeb (Was: confused rossy boy is confused) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 11:27 +0200
                  Re: In AI Acceleration nobody cares about CivetWeb (Was: confused rossy boy is confused) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-29 17:40 +0800
                    Your strictness is your problem , not mine [See WebLLM] (Was: In AI Acceleration nobody cares about CivetWeb) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 11:46 +0200
                      Graphics Processing with Fortran 77 (was: Re: Your strictness is your problem , not mine) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-29 18:10 +0800
                        I am not in C, it is theory and C++ [Hybrid Approaches from KOAN/Fortran-S] (Was: Graphics Processing with Fortran 77) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 12:43 +0200
                          Java picky concerning JIT-ing [Luckier with C++/C or FORTRAN compilers?] (Re: I am not in C, it is theory and C++) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 12:53 +0200
                  Run with minimum HTTPS and .mjs type (Re: In AI Acceleration nobody cares about CivetWeb) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 11:48 +0200
                    Lamas in a cradle and Lamas on the edge [Red Pyjama] (Was: Run with minimum HTTPS and .mjs type) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 13:05 +0200
                      Synthetic Multilanguage Autoformalization Dataset [Informath project] (Re: Lamas in a cradle and Lamas on the edge [Red Pyjama]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-08 09:22 +0200
                        Six Proofs and Generally Inteligent Systems [EyeProlog Pseudo Scientism] (Re: Synthetic Multilanguage Autoformalization Dataset [Informath project]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-15 15:20 +0200
                          Everybody does eat and sleep [The SK hynix Story] (Re: Six Proofs and Generally Inteligent Systems [EyeProlog Pseudo Scientism]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-15 18:49 +0200
                Re: confused rossy boy is confused (Was: Clueless about MIMD as usual [Flynn's Taxonomy]) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 14:42 -0700
                  Even send_color and recv_color can block [Cerebras Waver] (Was: confused rossy boy is confused) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-02 23:37 +0200
                    Re: Even send_color and recv_color can block [Cerebras Waver] (Was: confused rossy boy is confused) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-02 14:40 -0700
                      Re: Even send_color and recv_color can block [Cerebras Waver] (Was: confused rossy boy is confused) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-02 14:43 -0700
                      You don't understand that compute shaders are tasks (Was: Even send_color and recv_color can block [Cerebras Waver]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-02 23:45 +0200
                      You don't understand that compute shaders are tasks (Re: Even send_color and recv_color can block [Cerebras Waver]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-02 23:46 +0200
                        Ignoramus / Ignorabimus Barometer: Almost 1 Month (Re: You don't understand that compute shaders are tasks) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-03 00:09 +0200
                          Homework: Game Engine in WebGPU (Re: Ignoramus / Ignorabimus Barometer: Almost 1 Month) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-03 02:08 +0200
                            Re: Homework: Game Engine in WebGPU (Re: Ignoramus / Ignorabimus Barometer: Almost 1 Month) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-03 11:55 -0700
                              You are not correctly thinking (Was: Homework: Game Engine in WebGPU) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-03 21:04 +0200
                                Re: You are not correctly thinking (Was: Homework: Game Engine in WebGPU) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-03 12:32 -0700
                                  You don't understand the economy of an AI Laptop (Was: You are not correctly thinking) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-03 22:24 +0200
                                    You don't understand producer , workers , consumer (Was: You don't understand the economy of an AI Laptop ) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-03 22:37 +0200
                                      Re: You don't understand producer , workers , consumer (Was: You don't understand the economy of an AI Laptop ) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-03 14:29 -0700
                                        Know nothing and forget what you posted day before (Was: You don't understand producer , workers , consumer) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-03 23:38 +0200
    Re: Viswath & Charmaigne (vector-wide scalar-word and character machines) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-30 06:49 -0700
      Re: Viswath & Charmaigne (vector-wide scalar-word and character machines) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-07-30 14:55 -0700
      Re: Viswath & Charmaigne (vector-wide scalar-word and character machines) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-31 12:55 -0700
        Re: Viswath & Charmaigne (vector-wide scalar-word and character machines) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-31 13:05 -0700
    Ljubljana School versus Zurich School (Was: Viswath & Charmaigne) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-03 20:14 +0200
      Re: Ljubljana School versus Zurich School (Was: Viswath & Charmaigne) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-04 02:21 +0800
        pi-WAM uses ADA RendezVous (Was: Ljubljana School versus Zurich School) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-03 20:35 +0200
          A spinlock rewrite will be necessary (Was: pi-WAM uses ADA RendezVous) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-03 21:00 +0200
      Big thanks to Ljubljana School [Searching 0xCAFFEE] (Was: Ljubljana School versus Zurich School) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-03 20:40 +0200

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#124432 — Look how they advertized CUDA and logical threads (Was: Hurry Rossy Boy, the blue bus is waiting)

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2026-07-29 17:43 +0200
SubjectLook how they advertized CUDA and logical threads (Was: Hurry Rossy Boy, the blue bus is waiting)
Message-ID<114d723$khiv$1@solani.org>
In reply to#124430
Hi,

So what does NUM_SHADERS = 4096 shaders mean here?

11.4 Giga Lips with a Budget Laptop
https://github.com/Jean-Luc-Picard-2021/gigabudget

Its only the number of logical threads.

CUDA™ TEChNOLOGY UNLOCkS ThE POWER OF TESLA MANY-CORE PROCESSORS
The CUDA C compiler simplifies  many-core programming
by enabling code development in a high-level language
and optimizing code to run on systems without knowledge of
how many cores are in the hardware.

CUDA applications automatically take advantage of more
cores or fewer cores in a system, so they can scale from
entry-level notebook GPUs to high end GPUs in technical
workstations  and further into racks of GPUs in data
centers. This allows developers to

“code once” and deploy on a range of systems, as well as
scale forward in time as future GPUs deliver more
performance per watt and more cores per processor. The benefit
for software users is the opportunity to boost computing
performance simply by adding GPUs or using their

existing GPUs in new ways.
https://www.azken.com/download/Tesla_DS_S1070_EU.pdf

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> Hurry Rossy Boy, the blue bus is waiting.
> There is a quite a hyperbole from here:
> 
> Tesla S1070 in 2008
> 700 Watts , 1 Terra Flop
> SOLVE TOMORROW’S PROBLEMS TODAY
> https://www.azken.com/download/Tesla_DS_S1070_EU.pdf
> 
> To here:
> 
> Blackwell GPU in 2026
> 575 Watts, 104.8 Terra Flops ( RTX 5090 )
>  From Volta To Blackwell
> https://newsletter.semianalysis.com/p/nvidia-tensor-core-evolution-from-volta-to-blackwell 
> 
> 
> But somehow the S1070 had already Massively-
> Parallel, Many-Core Architecture, and forms
> of MIMD, since it had 960 / 240 = 4 cores.
> 
> 960 scalar processor cores (240 per GPU).
> But possibly more resticted inside work
> groups, than later NVIDIA Volta ff
> 
> architecture with independent thread state.
> 
> Bye
> 
> Disclaimer: The above is only a very rough
> RTX 5090 spec. Its doesn't say what value
> format and what vector/matrics ops were
> 
> used. Also energy consumption may vary.
> 
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>> Hi,
>>
>> You are still chewing on SIMD. LoL
>>
>> Ross Finlayson schrieb:
>>  > Then the idea is that any of those can be found and matched in
>>  > one "run", i.e. a stall-less, branch-less, call-less list of less than
>>  > a few or less than a few dozens or less than a few hundreds
>>  > instructions, the results "findings" in data and corresponding
>>  > "matchings" of expressions, that runs in less than one microsecond.
>>
>> You cannot make the mental translation that if you have:
>>
>> Ross Finlayson schrieb:
>>> So, the context then is for register state and stack contents, that
>>> the indicators of the above as "positive presence" then is to make
>>> for that the adjustments to the offsets and extents and the shifts
>>> is according to those, otherwise no-ops. Then the idea is that a
>>
>> As independent logical thread state, that automatically MIMD follosw?
>>
>> Whats the problem to solve then?
>>
>> Bye
> 

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#124433 — Forget any arithmetization of product FSA (Was: Look how they advertized CUDA and logical threads)

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2026-07-29 17:47 +0200
SubjectForget any arithmetization of product FSA (Was: Look how they advertized CUDA and logical threads)
Message-ID<114d7bc$khsf$1@solani.org>
In reply to#124432
Hi,

Because of this parallelism you anyway
need to forget about any arithmetization
of product FSA (finite-state automata).

Just forget it. What modern GPU provide
is a kind of hirarchical viewpoint. You
can have barriers in groups etc..

So you can exercise control over your
mongolian horde of logical threads in
a kind of multilevel schema.

Have Fun!

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> So what does NUM_SHADERS = 4096 shaders mean here?
> 
> 11.4 Giga Lips with a Budget Laptop
> https://github.com/Jean-Luc-Picard-2021/gigabudget
> 
> Its only the number of logical threads.
> 
> CUDA™ TEChNOLOGY UNLOCkS ThE POWER OF TESLA MANY-CORE PROCESSORS
> The CUDA C compiler simplifies  many-core programming
> by enabling code development in a high-level language
> and optimizing code to run on systems without knowledge of
> how many cores are in the hardware.
> 
> CUDA applications automatically take advantage of more
> cores or fewer cores in a system, so they can scale from
> entry-level notebook GPUs to high end GPUs in technical
> workstations  and further into racks of GPUs in data
> centers. This allows developers to
> 
> “code once” and deploy on a range of systems, as well as
> scale forward in time as future GPUs deliver more
> performance per watt and more cores per processor. The benefit
> for software users is the opportunity to boost computing
> performance simply by adding GPUs or using their
> 
> existing GPUs in new ways.
> https://www.azken.com/download/Tesla_DS_S1070_EU.pdf
> 
> Bye
> 
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Hurry Rossy Boy, the blue bus is waiting.
>> There is a quite a hyperbole from here:
>>
>> Tesla S1070 in 2008
>> 700 Watts , 1 Terra Flop
>> SOLVE TOMORROW’S PROBLEMS TODAY
>> https://www.azken.com/download/Tesla_DS_S1070_EU.pdf
>>
>> To here:
>>
>> Blackwell GPU in 2026
>> 575 Watts, 104.8 Terra Flops ( RTX 5090 )
>>  From Volta To Blackwell
>> https://newsletter.semianalysis.com/p/nvidia-tensor-core-evolution-from-volta-to-blackwell 
>>
>>
>> But somehow the S1070 had already Massively-
>> Parallel, Many-Core Architecture, and forms
>> of MIMD, since it had 960 / 240 = 4 cores.
>>
>> 960 scalar processor cores (240 per GPU).
>> But possibly more resticted inside work
>> groups, than later NVIDIA Volta ff
>>
>> architecture with independent thread state.
>>
>> Bye
>>
>> Disclaimer: The above is only a very rough
>> RTX 5090 spec. Its doesn't say what value
>> format and what vector/matrics ops were
>>
>> used. Also energy consumption may vary.
>>
>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> You are still chewing on SIMD. LoL
>>>
>>> Ross Finlayson schrieb:
>>>  > Then the idea is that any of those can be found and matched in
>>>  > one "run", i.e. a stall-less, branch-less, call-less list of less 
>>> than
>>>  > a few or less than a few dozens or less than a few hundreds
>>>  > instructions, the results "findings" in data and corresponding
>>>  > "matchings" of expressions, that runs in less than one microsecond.
>>>
>>> You cannot make the mental translation that if you have:
>>>
>>> Ross Finlayson schrieb:
>>>> So, the context then is for register state and stack contents, that
>>>> the indicators of the above as "positive presence" then is to make
>>>> for that the adjustments to the offsets and extents and the shifts
>>>> is according to those, otherwise no-ops. Then the idea is that a
>>>
>>> As independent logical thread state, that automatically MIMD follosw?
>>>
>>> Whats the problem to solve then?
>>>
>>> Bye
>>
> 

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#124435 — comp.lang.lisp (was: Re: Forget any arithmetization of product FSA)

FromJohann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid>
Date2026-07-29 23:53 +0800
Subjectcomp.lang.lisp (was: Re: Forget any arithmetization of product FSA)
Message-ID<ylpaS.102730$yWz9.62948@fx04.ams4>
In reply to#124433
On 29/07/2026 11:47 PM, Mild Shock wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Because of this parallelism you anyway
> need to forget about any arithmetization
> of product FSA (finite-state automata).
> 
> Just forget it. What modern GPU provide
> is a kind of hirarchical viewpoint. You
> can have barriers in groups etc..
> 
> So you can exercise control over your
> mongolian horde of logical threads in
> a kind of multilevel schema.

I don't exercise control over my
mongolian horde of scheme threads, in
an attempt to read comp.lang.lisp.


-- 
Johann | email: invalid -> com | http://www.myrkraverk.com/blog/
I'm not from the Internet, I just work there. | via Easynews.com

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#124436 — Re: Look how they advertized CUDA and logical threads (Was: Hurry Rossy Boy, the blue bus is waiting)

FromRoss Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date2026-07-29 08:53 -0700
SubjectRe: Look how they advertized CUDA and logical threads (Was: Hurry Rossy Boy, the blue bus is waiting)
Message-ID<xbCdnTS7zo65v_f3nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#124432
On 07/29/2026 08:43 AM, Mild Shock wrote:
> Hi,
>
> So what does NUM_SHADERS = 4096 shaders mean here?
>
> 11.4 Giga Lips with a Budget Laptop
> https://github.com/Jean-Luc-Picard-2021/gigabudget
>
> Its only the number of logical threads.
>
> CUDA™ TEChNOLOGY UNLOCkS ThE POWER OF TESLA MANY-CORE PROCESSORS
> The CUDA C compiler simplifies  many-core programming
> by enabling code development in a high-level language
> and optimizing code to run on systems without knowledge of
> how many cores are in the hardware.
>
> CUDA applications automatically take advantage of more
> cores or fewer cores in a system, so they can scale from
> entry-level notebook GPUs to high end GPUs in technical
> workstations  and further into racks of GPUs in data
> centers. This allows developers to
>
> “code once” and deploy on a range of systems, as well as
> scale forward in time as future GPUs deliver more
> performance per watt and more cores per processor. The benefit
> for software users is the opportunity to boost computing
> performance simply by adding GPUs or using their
>
> existing GPUs in new ways.
> https://www.azken.com/download/Tesla_DS_S1070_EU.pdf
>
> Bye
>
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Hurry Rossy Boy, the blue bus is waiting.
>> There is a quite a hyperbole from here:
>>
>> Tesla S1070 in 2008
>> 700 Watts , 1 Terra Flop
>> SOLVE TOMORROW’S PROBLEMS TODAY
>> https://www.azken.com/download/Tesla_DS_S1070_EU.pdf
>>
>> To here:
>>
>> Blackwell GPU in 2026
>> 575 Watts, 104.8 Terra Flops ( RTX 5090 )
>>  From Volta To Blackwell
>> https://newsletter.semianalysis.com/p/nvidia-tensor-core-evolution-from-volta-to-blackwell
>>
>>
>> But somehow the S1070 had already Massively-
>> Parallel, Many-Core Architecture, and forms
>> of MIMD, since it had 960 / 240 = 4 cores.
>>
>> 960 scalar processor cores (240 per GPU).
>> But possibly more resticted inside work
>> groups, than later NVIDIA Volta ff
>>
>> architecture with independent thread state.
>>
>> Bye
>>
>> Disclaimer: The above is only a very rough
>> RTX 5090 spec. Its doesn't say what value
>> format and what vector/matrics ops were
>>
>> used. Also energy consumption may vary.
>>
>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> You are still chewing on SIMD. LoL
>>>
>>> Ross Finlayson schrieb:
>>>  > Then the idea is that any of those can be found and matched in
>>>  > one "run", i.e. a stall-less, branch-less, call-less list of less
>>> than
>>>  > a few or less than a few dozens or less than a few hundreds
>>>  > instructions, the results "findings" in data and corresponding
>>>  > "matchings" of expressions, that runs in less than one microsecond.
>>>
>>> You cannot make the mental translation that if you have:
>>>
>>> Ross Finlayson schrieb:
>>>> So, the context then is for register state and stack contents, that
>>>> the indicators of the above as "positive presence" then is to make
>>>> for that the adjustments to the offsets and extents and the shifts
>>>> is according to those, otherwise no-ops. Then the idea is that a
>>>
>>> As independent logical thread state, that automatically MIMD follosw?
>>>
>>> Whats the problem to solve then?
>>>
>>> Bye
>>
>


“We live together, we act on, and react to, one another; but always and
in all circumstances we are by ourselves. The martyrs go hand in hand
into the arena; they are crucified alone. Embraced, the lovers
desperately try to fuse their insulated ecstasies into a single
self-transcendence; in vain. By its very nature every embodied spirit is
doomed to suffer and enjoy in solitude. Sensations, feelings, insights,
fancies—all these are private and, except through symbols and at second
hand, incommunicable. We can pool information about experiences, but
never the experiences themselves. From family to nation, every human
group is a society of island universes.”
― Aldous Huxley, The Doors of Perception


https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/3487.Aldous_Huxley



Peace Frog / Five to One / Break on Through


"He took the ancient mask from the gallery /
and he walked on down the hall...."


"Wild child / full of grace / savior of the human race."



"Push It" - maybe it'd go faster
if you got out and pushed.
This beat is techno-tronic.


If you want a faster computer,
it might help to start at the bottom.
Otherwise it'll always be slow underneath.


Wastrel.


The Crystal Ship / Spanish Caravan


"Carry me, caravan, take me away, ...."




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#124441 — There are two versions of Hack VM (Was: You are still chewing on SIMD. LoL)

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2026-07-29 18:14 +0200
SubjectThere are two versions of Hack VM (Was: You are still chewing on SIMD. LoL)
Message-ID<114d8tl$kitr$2@solani.org>
In reply to#124428
Hi,

> pi-WAM is compiled to Hack VM. You
> can realize goto's wherever you want.

In particular the repo contains two versions
of a Hack VM, written in WebGPU / WGSL:

Hack VM: Version 1.0
https://github.com/Jean-Luc-Picard-2021/gigabudget/blob/main/course/example63/boot.mjs

Hack VM: Version 2.0
https://github.com/Jean-Luc-Picard-2021/gigabudget/blob/main/course/example64/boot2.mjs

Version 1.0 is for a single compute shader
expriment. And Version 2.o is for a multi
compute shader experiment.

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> You are still chewing on SIMD. LoL
> 
> Ross Finlayson schrieb:
>  > Then the idea is that any of those can be found and matched in
>  > one "run", i.e. a stall-less, branch-less, call-less list of less than
>  > a few or less than a few dozens or less than a few hundreds
>  > instructions, the results "findings" in data and corresponding
>  > "matchings" of expressions, that runs in less than one microsecond.
> 
> You cannot make the mental translation that if you have:
> 
> Ross Finlayson schrieb:
>> So, the context then is for register state and stack contents, that
>> the indicators of the above as "positive presence" then is to make
>> for that the adjustments to the offsets and extents and the shifts
>> is according to those, otherwise no-ops. Then the idea is that a
> 
> As independent logical thread state, that automatically MIMD follosw?
> 
> Whats the problem to solve then?
> 
> Bye

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#124442 — Hack VM has also a Prolog spec (Was: There are two versions of Hack VM)

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2026-07-29 18:17 +0200
SubjectHack VM has also a Prolog spec (Was: There are two versions of Hack VM)
Message-ID<114d91s$kitr$3@solani.org>
In reply to#124441
Hi,

With π-WAM we add a second Prolog VM to the
same Prolog system, with the aim to use
it for specialized tasks:

Emulating π-WAM in Dogelog Player
https://medium.com/2989/de9cd29c7d37

Optimized for speed the π-WAM is very primitive.
The compiler capitalizes that code blocks
are relocatable.

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
>> pi-WAM is compiled to Hack VM. You
>> can realize goto's wherever you want.
> 
> In particular the repo contains two versions
> of a Hack VM, written in WebGPU / WGSL:
> 
> Hack VM: Version 1.0
> https://github.com/Jean-Luc-Picard-2021/gigabudget/blob/main/course/example63/boot.mjs 
> 
> 
> Hack VM: Version 2.0
> https://github.com/Jean-Luc-Picard-2021/gigabudget/blob/main/course/example64/boot2.mjs 
> 
> 
> Version 1.0 is for a single compute shader
> expriment. And Version 2.o is for a multi
> compute shader experiment.
> 
> Bye
> 
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>> Hi,
>>
>> You are still chewing on SIMD. LoL
>>
>> Ross Finlayson schrieb:
>>  > Then the idea is that any of those can be found and matched in
>>  > one "run", i.e. a stall-less, branch-less, call-less list of less than
>>  > a few or less than a few dozens or less than a few hundreds
>>  > instructions, the results "findings" in data and corresponding
>>  > "matchings" of expressions, that runs in less than one microsecond.
>>
>> You cannot make the mental translation that if you have:
>>
>> Ross Finlayson schrieb:
>>> So, the context then is for register state and stack contents, that
>>> the indicators of the above as "positive presence" then is to make
>>> for that the adjustments to the offsets and extents and the shifts
>>> is according to those, otherwise no-ops. Then the idea is that a
>>
>> As independent logical thread state, that automatically MIMD follosw?
>>
>> Whats the problem to solve then?
>>
>> Bye
> 

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#124443 — A better compiler is planned / What do you target? (Was: Hack VM has also a Prolog spec)

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2026-07-29 18:22 +0200
SubjectA better compiler is planned / What do you target? (Was: Hack VM has also a Prolog spec)
Message-ID<114d9c2$kjl1$1@solani.org>
In reply to#124442
Hi,

A better compiler is planned. There are
some tricks to use Prolog variables,
to perform fixups, during compilation.

Especially because its a compile before
use approach. So its a) not irrelevant that
the compiler is fast, and b) compile before

use gives head room, to complicated compile
schemes, for example of a Prolog cut (!)/0,
that not really fits into the structured

language concepts of a programming language
such as Java. Although situation might be
different when one looks at the Java VM

bytecode and not at the Java language.
The Java VM byte code might open more
possibilities than the Java language itself.

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> With π-WAM we add a second Prolog VM to the
> same Prolog system, with the aim to use
> it for specialized tasks:
> 
> Emulating π-WAM in Dogelog Player
> https://medium.com/2989/de9cd29c7d37
> 
> Optimized for speed the π-WAM is very primitive.
> The compiler capitalizes that code blocks
> are relocatable.
> 
> Bye
> 
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>> Hi,
>>
>>> pi-WAM is compiled to Hack VM. You
>>> can realize goto's wherever you want.
>>
>> In particular the repo contains two versions
>> of a Hack VM, written in WebGPU / WGSL:
>>
>> Hack VM: Version 1.0
>> https://github.com/Jean-Luc-Picard-2021/gigabudget/blob/main/course/example63/boot.mjs 
>>
>>
>> Hack VM: Version 2.0
>> https://github.com/Jean-Luc-Picard-2021/gigabudget/blob/main/course/example64/boot2.mjs 
>>
>>
>> Version 1.0 is for a single compute shader
>> expriment. And Version 2.o is for a multi
>> compute shader experiment.
>>
>> Bye
>>
>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> You are still chewing on SIMD. LoL
>>>
>>> Ross Finlayson schrieb:
>>>  > Then the idea is that any of those can be found and matched in
>>>  > one "run", i.e. a stall-less, branch-less, call-less list of less 
>>> than
>>>  > a few or less than a few dozens or less than a few hundreds
>>>  > instructions, the results "findings" in data and corresponding
>>>  > "matchings" of expressions, that runs in less than one microsecond.
>>>
>>> You cannot make the mental translation that if you have:
>>>
>>> Ross Finlayson schrieb:
>>>> So, the context then is for register state and stack contents, that
>>>> the indicators of the above as "positive presence" then is to make
>>>> for that the adjustments to the offsets and extents and the shifts
>>>> is according to those, otherwise no-ops. Then the idea is that a
>>>
>>> As independent logical thread state, that automatically MIMD follosw?
>>>
>>> Whats the problem to solve then?
>>>
>>> Bye
>>
> 

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#124700 — It’s called . . . . enshittification (About the price tag for using a multifile/1)

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2026-08-14 00:50 +0200
SubjectIt’s called . . . . enshittification (About the price tag for using a multifile/1)
Message-ID<115lhn1$e3jt$3@solani.org>
In reply to#124443
Hi,

It is simply solved by these strings/3 facts:

 > :- multifile(strings/3).
 >
 > /* de = ISO locale atoms with prefix de_ */
 > strings('evaluation_error.zero_divisor', de, 'Nulldivision.').
 >
 > /* '' = fall back ISO locale atoms */
 > strings('evaluation_error.zero_divisor', '', 'Division by zero.').

About the price tag for using a multifile/1
directives in your Prolog code, instead of some
libc binding: Effort practically zero, just
write the directive before your clauses in every

file you define strings/3. Learning curve
practically zero, at least I assume so, multifile/1
directive is very intuitive. So the bottomline is
you didn’t buy the ISO Prolog core standard,

and also you didn’t buy the ISO POSIX standard,
400 pages fresh from the Austin group, in a classic
English office park in Berkshire, costs only 226
CHF in 2026 from ISO.

You see its everywhere, not only that GitHub
wants money for CI, even POSIX is subject to what
Cory Doctorow sees as Honey Moon, Bait-and-Switch
and Final Form , i.e. enshittification.

It’s called . . . . enshittification
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShBOcElw1b0

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> A better compiler is planned. There are
> some tricks to use Prolog variables,
> to perform fixups, during compilation.
> 
> Especially because its a compile before
> use approach. So its a) not irrelevant that
> the compiler is fast, and b) compile before
> 
> use gives head room, to complicated compile
> schemes, for example of a Prolog cut (!)/0,
> that not really fits into the structured
> 
> language concepts of a programming language
> such as Java. Although situation might be
> different when one looks at the Java VM
> 
> bytecode and not at the Java language.
> The Java VM byte code might open more
> possibilities than the Java language itself.
> 
> Bye
> 
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>> Hi,
>>
>> With π-WAM we add a second Prolog VM to the
>> same Prolog system, with the aim to use
>> it for specialized tasks:
>>
>> Emulating π-WAM in Dogelog Player
>> https://medium.com/2989/de9cd29c7d37
>>
>> Optimized for speed the π-WAM is very primitive.
>> The compiler capitalizes that code blocks
>> are relocatable.
>>
>> Bye
>>
>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>> pi-WAM is compiled to Hack VM. You
>>>> can realize goto's wherever you want.
>>>
>>> In particular the repo contains two versions
>>> of a Hack VM, written in WebGPU / WGSL:
>>>
>>> Hack VM: Version 1.0
>>> https://github.com/Jean-Luc-Picard-2021/gigabudget/blob/main/course/example63/boot.mjs 
>>>
>>>
>>> Hack VM: Version 2.0
>>> https://github.com/Jean-Luc-Picard-2021/gigabudget/blob/main/course/example64/boot2.mjs 
>>>
>>>
>>> Version 1.0 is for a single compute shader
>>> expriment. And Version 2.o is for a multi
>>> compute shader experiment.
>>>
>>> Bye
>>>
>>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> You are still chewing on SIMD. LoL
>>>>
>>>> Ross Finlayson schrieb:
>>>>  > Then the idea is that any of those can be found and matched in
>>>>  > one "run", i.e. a stall-less, branch-less, call-less list of less 
>>>> than
>>>>  > a few or less than a few dozens or less than a few hundreds
>>>>  > instructions, the results "findings" in data and corresponding
>>>>  > "matchings" of expressions, that runs in less than one microsecond.
>>>>
>>>> You cannot make the mental translation that if you have:
>>>>
>>>> Ross Finlayson schrieb:
>>>>> So, the context then is for register state and stack contents, that
>>>>> the indicators of the above as "positive presence" then is to make
>>>>> for that the adjustments to the offsets and extents and the shifts
>>>>> is according to those, otherwise no-ops. Then the idea is that a
>>>>
>>>> As independent logical thread state, that automatically MIMD follosw?
>>>>
>>>> Whats the problem to solve then?
>>>>
>>>> Bye
>>>
>>
> 

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#124593 — Budget AI Laptop 2026 versus Cray T3D 1995 (Re: You are still chewing on SIMD. LoL)

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2026-08-05 14:24 +0200
SubjectBudget AI Laptop 2026 versus Cray T3D 1995 (Re: You are still chewing on SIMD. LoL)
Message-ID<114va1i$10nb1$3@solani.org>
In reply to#124428
Hi,

They are the same:

Performance of the Cray T3D
https://arxiv.org/abs/hep-lat/9509003v1

GPU Backend: Find 0xCAFFEE with π-WAM
https://medium.com/2989/8890efd3503c

Both Cray T3D as installed at PSC, and
the on chip GPU of my Ryzen AI 7 350
w/ Radeon 860M Laptop for ca. 1000 CHF.

they both have MIMD (Multiple instruction,
multiple data) and 512 PE (Processing Elements).
Quite amazing what happend in 30 years of

Very-large-scale integration (VLSI).

LoL

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> You are still chewing on SIMD. LoL
> 
> Ross Finlayson schrieb:
>  > Then the idea is that any of those can be found and matched in
>  > one "run", i.e. a stall-less, branch-less, call-less list of less than
>  > a few or less than a few dozens or less than a few hundreds
>  > instructions, the results "findings" in data and corresponding
>  > "matchings" of expressions, that runs in less than one microsecond.
> 
> You cannot make the mental translation that if you have:
> 
> Ross Finlayson schrieb:
>> So, the context then is for register state and stack contents, that
>> the indicators of the above as "positive presence" then is to make
>> for that the adjustments to the offsets and extents and the shifts
>> is according to those, otherwise no-ops. Then the idea is that a
> 
> As independent logical thread state, that automatically MIMD follosw?
> 
> Whats the problem to solve then?
> 
> Bye

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#124446 — A brain desease of 20 days [Rossy Boy] (Was: Viswath & Charmaigne (vector-wide scalar-word and character machines))

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2026-07-29 18:38 +0200
SubjectA brain desease of 20 days [Rossy Boy] (Was: Viswath & Charmaigne (vector-wide scalar-word and character machines))
Message-ID<114daas$k594$1@solani.org>
In reply to#124393
Hi,

This was archived on Jul 9, 2026:

11.4 Giga Lips with a Budget Laptop
https://github.com/Jean-Luc-Picard-2021/gigabudget

Still, Jul 29, Rossy Boy halucinates accusations:

Ross Finlayson schrieb:
 > .. bla bla goto bla bla ..
 >
 > Stupid gangster:  teamsters are a union.
 >
 > In the trades, not the steals, ....

Woa! Thats now 20 days of brain desease,
and not understanding the meaning and implications.
Even not understand pi-WAM has Hack VM backend.

But its all opensource. Bravo Rossy Boy, you are
champion in brainlessness and lazyness of
a idiot usenet troll.

Bye

Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson schrieb:
> On 28/07/2026 2:43 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
>> Hello, here I'll post some design notes and a panel discussion with some
>> chat-bots about making some sense of the "vector-wide scalar word"
>> and "character machines", on commodity hardware about ubiquitous 
>> operations.
>>
>>
>> It's considered at least tangentially relevant to comp.lang.c and
>> comp.lang.c++ because for example text is ubiquitous and the targets
>> would be low-level, while the higher-level languages would have a
>> same sort of patternry, and for example that libc and cstdlib are
>> standard, and as with regards to POSIX and Unicode and so on.
>>
>> Please feel free to excuse or ignore, or comment as freely.
>>
>> Thanks for reading.
>>
> 
> Are you generating all of your code via LLMs?  Rest assured,
> the LLM generated code will have subtle and sometimes not so subtle
> bugs.
> 
> 
> Happy bughunting!

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#124447 — Rossy Boys tears could cool a data center [pi-WAM Interleaved Synchronized Emulator]

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2026-07-29 20:05 +0200
SubjectRossy Boys tears could cool a data center [pi-WAM Interleaved Synchronized Emulator]
Message-ID<114dfcj$ko2q$2@solani.org>
In reply to#124446
Hi,

Rossy Boys tears could cool a data center,
he thinks there exists no literature about
serial algorithms of parallel stuff, and

he also thinks normal forms lead to optimizing
something. LoL, what a utter bullshit. I did
alreay a serial implementation of a parallel

simulation of my pi-WAM. Just lookup the literature
about pi-calulus. I published it a few days ago,
its part of 2.2.4 released already:

Parallel π-WAM: An Interleaved Synchronous Emulator
https://medium.com/2989/0196089e143a

Whats your point, Rossy Boy? Except you post pretend
nonsense not knowing what you are doing?

Bye

Ross Finlayson schrieb:
 > No, troll, these are serial algorithms their optimized forms.
 >
 > Normal sorts of forms, ....
 >
 >
 > Yeah, everybody already figured out "interpreters" and
 > "programs" and "spawning".
 >
 > Go spawn yourself.
 >


Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> This was archived on Jul 9, 2026:
> 
> 11.4 Giga Lips with a Budget Laptop
> https://github.com/Jean-Luc-Picard-2021/gigabudget
> 
> Still, Jul 29, Rossy Boy halucinates accusations:
> 
> Ross Finlayson schrieb:
>  > .. bla bla goto bla bla ..
>  >
>  > Stupid gangster:  teamsters are a union.
>  >
>  > In the trades, not the steals, ....
> 
> Woa! Thats now 20 days of brain desease,
> and not understanding the meaning and implications.
> Even not understand pi-WAM has Hack VM backend.
> 
> But its all opensource. Bravo Rossy Boy, you are
> champion in brainlessness and lazyness of
> a idiot usenet troll.
> 
> Bye
> 
> Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson schrieb:
>> On 28/07/2026 2:43 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
>>> Hello, here I'll post some design notes and a panel discussion with some
>>> chat-bots about making some sense of the "vector-wide scalar word"
>>> and "character machines", on commodity hardware about ubiquitous 
>>> operations.
>>>
>>>
>>> It's considered at least tangentially relevant to comp.lang.c and
>>> comp.lang.c++ because for example text is ubiquitous and the targets
>>> would be low-level, while the higher-level languages would have a
>>> same sort of patternry, and for example that libc and cstdlib are
>>> standard, and as with regards to POSIX and Unicode and so on.
>>>
>>> Please feel free to excuse or ignore, or comment as freely.
>>>
>>> Thanks for reading.
>>>
>>
>> Are you generating all of your code via LLMs?  Rest assured,
>> the LLM generated code will have subtle and sometimes not so subtle
>> bugs.
>>
>>
>> Happy bughunting!
> 

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#124448 — Re: Rossy Boys tears could cool a data center [pi-WAM Interleaved Synchronized Emulator]

FromRoss Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date2026-07-29 11:13 -0700
SubjectRe: Rossy Boys tears could cool a data center [pi-WAM Interleaved Synchronized Emulator]
Message-ID<GNydnXdipr9-3_f3nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#124447
On 07/29/2026 11:05 AM, Mild Shock wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Rossy Boys tears could cool a data center,
> he thinks there exists no literature about
> serial algorithms of parallel stuff, and
>
> he also thinks normal forms lead to optimizing
> something. LoL, what a utter bullshit. I did
> alreay a serial implementation of a parallel
>
> simulation of my pi-WAM. Just lookup the literature
> about pi-calulus. I published it a few days ago,
> its part of 2.2.4 released already:
>
> Parallel π-WAM: An Interleaved Synchronous Emulator
> https://medium.com/2989/0196089e143a
>
> Whats your point, Rossy Boy? Except you post pretend
> nonsense not knowing what you are doing?
>
> Bye
>
> Ross Finlayson schrieb:
>  > No, troll, these are serial algorithms their optimized forms.
>  >
>  > Normal sorts of forms, ....
>  >
>  >
>  > Yeah, everybody already figured out "interpreters" and
>  > "programs" and "spawning".
>  >
>  > Go spawn yourself.
>  >
>
>
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>> Hi,
>>
>> This was archived on Jul 9, 2026:
>>
>> 11.4 Giga Lips with a Budget Laptop
>> https://github.com/Jean-Luc-Picard-2021/gigabudget
>>
>> Still, Jul 29, Rossy Boy halucinates accusations:
>>
>> Ross Finlayson schrieb:
>>  > .. bla bla goto bla bla ..
>>  >
>>  > Stupid gangster:  teamsters are a union.
>>  >
>>  > In the trades, not the steals, ....
>>
>> Woa! Thats now 20 days of brain desease,
>> and not understanding the meaning and implications.
>> Even not understand pi-WAM has Hack VM backend.
>>
>> But its all opensource. Bravo Rossy Boy, you are
>> champion in brainlessness and lazyness of
>> a idiot usenet troll.
>>
>> Bye
>>
>> Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson schrieb:
>>> On 28/07/2026 2:43 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
>>>> Hello, here I'll post some design notes and a panel discussion with
>>>> some
>>>> chat-bots about making some sense of the "vector-wide scalar word"
>>>> and "character machines", on commodity hardware about ubiquitous
>>>> operations.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's considered at least tangentially relevant to comp.lang.c and
>>>> comp.lang.c++ because for example text is ubiquitous and the targets
>>>> would be low-level, while the higher-level languages would have a
>>>> same sort of patternry, and for example that libc and cstdlib are
>>>> standard, and as with regards to POSIX and Unicode and so on.
>>>>
>>>> Please feel free to excuse or ignore, or comment as freely.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for reading.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Are you generating all of your code via LLMs?  Rest assured,
>>> the LLM generated code will have subtle and sometimes not so subtle
>>> bugs.
>>>
>>>
>>> Happy bughunting!
>>
>

https://www.theregister.com/databases/2026/07/29/after-rewriting-sqlite-in-rust-turso-turns-its-sights-on-postgres/5279835

I don't much care about Rust. It's yet another Google product,
with the idea of not having exception handling, then supposedly
it's efficient and safe, yet, it's efficient by not being safe,
and safe by not being efficient. Then there's the macro/metaprogramming
front-end, which basically doesn't validate
like templates or otherwise for compile-time invariants,
that is basically like people who use string substititution instead
of object models, who all suffer injection attacks.


This latest manic episode has that in some more clinical or caring
settings, then one might wonder over the author's need to get help
or whether they're lost their mittens. In another view, though,
that's crazy-town and it's not a good place and we don't go there
any-more, population burse-scheiss-bots. Anyways here we just
generally respect people well enough to let them well alone.

Not to spring on you that you're wrong, it's not a conspiracy
against you, anyways as per the usual Shut Up goes out to any
of these JB, JG, PO, WM, ..., sock-puppet bots.

Thief.


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#124449 — I don't use Rust, you are crazy [Jump off a bridge, idiot] (Was: Rossy Boys tears could cool a data center [pi-WAM Interleaved Synchronized Emulator])

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2026-07-29 20:22 +0200
SubjectI don't use Rust, you are crazy [Jump off a bridge, idiot] (Was: Rossy Boys tears could cool a data center [pi-WAM Interleaved Synchronized Emulator])
Message-ID<114dgdo$kora$1@solani.org>
In reply to#124448
Hi,

I don't use Rust, you are crazy. First of
all the parallel simulator is 100% written
in Prolog, should also run in ISO Prolog,

enhanced by a library(lists). Second I only
mentioned that WebGPU / WGSL, the language
there has a Rust inspired language.

Its not Rust. Whats wrong with you? Why do
you adress your weariness of life to me.
I am neither thief, nor can I help you

with your frustration, and histeric outbursts.
Maybe just be a man and jump off a bridge, idiot.
Or tame your frustration, usenet is not for

you alone, your stupid asshole.

Bye

Ross Finlayson schrieb:
> https://www.theregister.com/databases/2026/07/29/after-rewriting-sqlite-in-rust-turso-turns-its-sights-on-postgres/5279835 
> 
> I don't much care about Rust. 
 >
> .. gibberish ..
 >
> Thief.

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#124571 — Standing on the shoulders of giants (Re: I don't use Rust, you are crazy [Jump off a bridge, idiot])

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2026-08-04 03:20 +0200
SubjectStanding on the shoulders of giants (Re: I don't use Rust, you are crazy [Jump off a bridge, idiot])
Message-ID<114reoi$tnjb$3@solani.org>
In reply to#124449
Hi,

Or do a YouTube video about:

Standing on the shoulders of giants
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standing_on_the_shoulders_of_giants

Calling people who build software "thieves",
is probably the most philosopher syphilis brain

thing I ever heard in 2026. You should really
jump from a bridge Rossy Boy. I think its over

for you, the lamps have already gone out...

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:
 > Hi,
 >
 > Do a YouTube video about it:
 >
 > Topic: Tit for Tat, or how I messed up
 > with an innocent poster, and learnt about FAFO:
 >
 > #fuckaroundandfindout
 > https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6ALRRksc72M
 >
 > You were provable the first idiot, posting
 > stupid comments into my posts, besides of
 >
 > course Micro Penis, who is a paid troll.
 >
 > Have Fun!
 >
 > Bye
 >
 > Ross Finlayson schrieb:
 >> For dummies, ....

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> I don't use Rust, you are crazy. First of
> all the parallel simulator is 100% written
> in Prolog, should also run in ISO Prolog,
> 
> enhanced by a library(lists). Second I only
> mentioned that WebGPU / WGSL, the language
> there has a Rust inspired language.
> 
> Its not Rust. Whats wrong with you? Why do
> you adress your weariness of life to me.
> I am neither thief, nor can I help you
> 
> with your frustration, and histeric outbursts.
> Maybe just be a man and jump off a bridge, idiot.
> Or tame your frustration, usenet is not for
> 
> you alone, your stupid asshole.
> 
> Bye
> 
> Ross Finlayson schrieb:
>> https://www.theregister.com/databases/2026/07/29/after-rewriting-sqlite-in-rust-turso-turns-its-sights-on-postgres/5279835 
>>
>> I don't much care about Rust. 
>  >
>> .. gibberish ..
>  >
>> Thief.
> 

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#124580 — You Thief! Stealing Szemeredi, Aristotle, Leibniz, etc.. (Re: Standing on the shoulders of giants)

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2026-08-04 15:18 +0200
SubjectYou Thief! Stealing Szemeredi, Aristotle, Leibniz, etc.. (Re: Standing on the shoulders of giants)
Message-ID<114sor5$uk3f$2@solani.org>
In reply to#124571
Hi,

Ross Finlayson schrieb:
 > of various approaches to Szemeredi, and about the independence
 > of various approaches of entropy, or Aristotle and Leibniz

You horrible horrible Person and Thief.
Balantly stealing from Szemeredi, Aristotle,
Leibniz, etc..

Ross Finlayson schrieb:
 >> wrote Newton's method, where of course Kepler wrote
 >> the System of the World's universal gravitation, that

And poor Newton and Kepler get also exploited,
from shameless Rossy Boy. Thats not very original,
shame on you!

I guess this is the final verdict for you. As a
person without original thought, you need
to do as a big favor,

and jump from a bridge.

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> Or do a YouTube video about:
> 
> Standing on the shoulders of giants
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standing_on_the_shoulders_of_giants
> 
> Calling people who build software "thieves",
> is probably the most philosopher syphilis brain
> 
> thing I ever heard in 2026. You should really
> jump from a bridge Rossy Boy. I think its over
> 
> for you, the lamps have already gone out...
> 
> Bye
> 
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>  > Hi,
>  >
>  > Do a YouTube video about it:
>  >
>  > Topic: Tit for Tat, or how I messed up
>  > with an innocent poster, and learnt about FAFO:
>  >
>  > #fuckaroundandfindout
>  > https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6ALRRksc72M
>  >
>  > You were provable the first idiot, posting
>  > stupid comments into my posts, besides of
>  >
>  > course Micro Penis, who is a paid troll.
>  >
>  > Have Fun!
>  >
>  > Bye
>  >
>  > Ross Finlayson schrieb:
>  >> For dummies, ....
> 
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I don't use Rust, you are crazy. First of
>> all the parallel simulator is 100% written
>> in Prolog, should also run in ISO Prolog,
>>
>> enhanced by a library(lists). Second I only
>> mentioned that WebGPU / WGSL, the language
>> there has a Rust inspired language.
>>
>> Its not Rust. Whats wrong with you? Why do
>> you adress your weariness of life to me.
>> I am neither thief, nor can I help you
>>
>> with your frustration, and histeric outbursts.
>> Maybe just be a man and jump off a bridge, idiot.
>> Or tame your frustration, usenet is not for
>>
>> you alone, your stupid asshole.
>>
>> Bye
>>
>> Ross Finlayson schrieb:
>>> https://www.theregister.com/databases/2026/07/29/after-rewriting-sqlite-in-rust-turso-turns-its-sights-on-postgres/5279835 
>>>
>>> I don't much care about Rust. 
>>  >
>>> .. gibberish ..
>>  >
>>> Thief.
>>
> 

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#124581 — How Rossy Boys plagiarism works [Copy Paste Slop] (Re: You Thief! Stealing Szemeredi, Aristotle, Leibniz, etc..)

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2026-08-04 17:56 +0200
SubjectHow Rossy Boys plagiarism works [Copy Paste Slop] (Re: You Thief! Stealing Szemeredi, Aristotle, Leibniz, etc..)
Message-ID<114t23u$ur00$2@solani.org>
In reply to#124580
Hi,

Rossy Boy was a generative AI before
the term existed. All his postes are huge
piles of copy pasta slop.

Not a single original thought, or even
some understanding what he writes. Nowadays
he uses Kimi to produce his copy pasta

slop. One result from his paper mill,
Even a bibliograph cannot help here.

 > RF — transcript received and read. The session closed well. What we
 > mapped out across these rounds is, to my mind, a credible foundation:
 > two matcher normal forms (AND for properties, XOR for code-points), a
 > validated SSE2 smearing sequence via Claude's S1/S2 sketch, a closed
 > calling convention with explicit ABI spill gates, and the SBC-less
 > design mantra as a gradient rather than a boolean. The open items —
 > stack tagging, AST wire format, bit-granular Viswath boundaries — are
 > properly scoped for next time rather than lost.

"bit-granular Viswath boundaries" LoL

It probably refers to Rossy Boys "Wish he
knew What" he is talking about, Viswath is his
alter ego projection:

The unbounded gibber polymath.

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> Ross Finlayson schrieb:
>  > of various approaches to Szemeredi, and about the independence
>  > of various approaches of entropy, or Aristotle and Leibniz
> 
> You horrible horrible Person and Thief.
> Balantly stealing from Szemeredi, Aristotle,
> Leibniz, etc..
> 
> Ross Finlayson schrieb:
>  >> wrote Newton's method, where of course Kepler wrote
>  >> the System of the World's universal gravitation, that
> 
> And poor Newton and Kepler get also exploited,
> from shameless Rossy Boy. Thats not very original,
> shame on you!
> 
> I guess this is the final verdict for you. As a
> person without original thought, you need
> to do as a big favor,
> 
> and jump from a bridge.
> 
> Bye
> 
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Or do a YouTube video about:
>>
>> Standing on the shoulders of giants
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standing_on_the_shoulders_of_giants
>>
>> Calling people who build software "thieves",
>> is probably the most philosopher syphilis brain
>>
>> thing I ever heard in 2026. You should really
>> jump from a bridge Rossy Boy. I think its over
>>
>> for you, the lamps have already gone out...
>>
>> Bye
>>
>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>  > Hi,
>>  >
>>  > Do a YouTube video about it:
>>  >
>>  > Topic: Tit for Tat, or how I messed up
>>  > with an innocent poster, and learnt about FAFO:
>>  >
>>  > #fuckaroundandfindout
>>  > https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6ALRRksc72M
>>  >
>>  > You were provable the first idiot, posting
>>  > stupid comments into my posts, besides of
>>  >
>>  > course Micro Penis, who is a paid troll.
>>  >
>>  > Have Fun!
>>  >
>>  > Bye
>>  >
>>  > Ross Finlayson schrieb:
>>  >> For dummies, ....
>>
>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I don't use Rust, you are crazy. First of
>>> all the parallel simulator is 100% written
>>> in Prolog, should also run in ISO Prolog,
>>>
>>> enhanced by a library(lists). Second I only
>>> mentioned that WebGPU / WGSL, the language
>>> there has a Rust inspired language.
>>>
>>> Its not Rust. Whats wrong with you? Why do
>>> you adress your weariness of life to me.
>>> I am neither thief, nor can I help you
>>>
>>> with your frustration, and histeric outbursts.
>>> Maybe just be a man and jump off a bridge, idiot.
>>> Or tame your frustration, usenet is not for
>>>
>>> you alone, your stupid asshole.
>>>
>>> Bye
>>>
>>> Ross Finlayson schrieb:
>>>> https://www.theregister.com/databases/2026/07/29/after-rewriting-sqlite-in-rust-turso-turns-its-sights-on-postgres/5279835 
>>>>
>>>> I don't much care about Rust. 
>>>  >
>>>> .. gibberish ..
>>>  >
>>>> Thief.
>>>
>>
> 

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#124452 — Postgres is in C!

FromJohann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid>
Date2026-07-30 03:46 +0800
SubjectPostgres is in C!
Message-ID<pMsaS.28184$4Fu9.20551@fx05.ams4>
In reply to#124448
On 30/07/2026 2:13 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote:

> https://www.theregister.com/databases/2026/07/29/after-rewriting-sqlite- 
> in-rust-turso-turns-its-sights-on-postgres/5279835
> 
> I don't much care about Rust. It's yet another Google product,
> with the idea of not having exception handling, then supposedly
> it's efficient and safe, yet, it's efficient by not being safe,
> and safe by not being efficient. Then there's the macro/metaprogramming
> front-end, which basically doesn't validate
> like templates or otherwise for compile-time invariants,
> that is basically like people who use string substititution instead
> of object models, who all suffer injection attacks.

Personally, I like Postgres in C, and I hope it stays there.  I used to
maintain PL/Java, and got intimately familiar with some of the limi-
tations of the JNI interface.  And while there's some new Java foreign
function interface now, it doesn't replace JNI.  Especially for projects
that embed the JVM like PL/Java.

I haven't contributed to that project for maybe one and half decade, and
now that I'm using Java again -- a project I'll mention in another
thread --[1] I may just resume some duties in PL/Java.  But that's a
future adventure that may or may not happen.

So, I was going to say something about Postgres?  Right, I'm sure the
author of Postgres-in-Rust will run into some of the problems people
always run into when they attempt to rewrite other large projects, and
that's not learning from the prior mistakes.  I try to avoid that.

Some of that I learned the hard way, and some of that I learned by read-
ing the /Mythical Man Month/.  I don't remember the author's name, and
my physical copy is not in my current library, but I believe the author
is famous enough I don't need to mention him by name.


> 
> 
> This latest manic episode has that in some more clinical or caring
> settings, then one might wonder over the author's need to get help
> or whether they're lost their mittens. In another view, though,
> that's crazy-town and it's not a good place and we don't go there
> any-more, population burse-scheiss-bots. Anyways here we just
> generally respect people well enough to let them well alone.

I don't remote diagnose people.  While I don't have a medical license
to lose, I feel it's impolite to potentially mis-diagnose people over
text messages.

I have not felt very respected here in comp.lang.c.  I guess we must
have some different experiences in this place.  Who exactly is
welcoming, and a warm person?

> 
> Not to spring on you that you're wrong, it's not a conspiracy
> against you, anyways as per the usual Shut Up goes out to any
> of these JB, JG, PO, WM, ..., sock-puppet bots.

I'm not sure I recognize all of these initials.  I'm sure I'll
learn to not engage with the problem children here in comp.lang.c,
but it's been a few days, and I'm still familiarizing myself with
the regulars.

> 
> Thief.

Who exactly is the thief?  Does this person have stats in the Rogue
class in dungeons and dragons?


Happy C coding!

[1] Those pretend em-dashes will surely make Dan Cross even more
fictional.  I hope his rage isn't fictional and he'll byte every
character I type here in comp.lang.c.
-- 
Johann | email: invalid -> com | http://www.myrkraverk.com/blog/
I'm not from the Internet, I just work there. | via Easynews.com

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#124454 — Re: Postgres is in C!

FromRoss Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date2026-07-29 13:47 -0700
SubjectRe: Postgres is in C!
Message-ID<ZfWcnS1mcOJq-_f3nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#124452
On 07/29/2026 12:46 PM, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote:
> On 30/07/2026 2:13 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
>
>> https://www.theregister.com/databases/2026/07/29/after-rewriting-sqlite-
>> in-rust-turso-turns-its-sights-on-postgres/5279835
>>
>> I don't much care about Rust. It's yet another Google product,
>> with the idea of not having exception handling, then supposedly
>> it's efficient and safe, yet, it's efficient by not being safe,
>> and safe by not being efficient. Then there's the macro/metaprogramming
>> front-end, which basically doesn't validate
>> like templates or otherwise for compile-time invariants,
>> that is basically like people who use string substititution instead
>> of object models, who all suffer injection attacks.
>
> Personally, I like Postgres in C, and I hope it stays there.  I used to
> maintain PL/Java, and got intimately familiar with some of the limi-
> tations of the JNI interface.  And while there's some new Java foreign
> function interface now, it doesn't replace JNI.  Especially for projects
> that embed the JVM like PL/Java.
>
> I haven't contributed to that project for maybe one and half decade, and
> now that I'm using Java again -- a project I'll mention in another
> thread --[1] I may just resume some duties in PL/Java.  But that's a
> future adventure that may or may not happen.
>
> So, I was going to say something about Postgres?  Right, I'm sure the
> author of Postgres-in-Rust will run into some of the problems people
> always run into when they attempt to rewrite other large projects, and
> that's not learning from the prior mistakes.  I try to avoid that.
>
> Some of that I learned the hard way, and some of that I learned by read-
> ing the /Mythical Man Month/.  I don't remember the author's name, and
> my physical copy is not in my current library, but I believe the author
> is famous enough I don't need to mention him by name.
>
>
>>
>>
>> This latest manic episode has that in some more clinical or caring
>> settings, then one might wonder over the author's need to get help
>> or whether they're lost their mittens. In another view, though,
>> that's crazy-town and it's not a good place and we don't go there
>> any-more, population burse-scheiss-bots. Anyways here we just
>> generally respect people well enough to let them well alone.
>
> I don't remote diagnose people.  While I don't have a medical license
> to lose, I feel it's impolite to potentially mis-diagnose people over
> text messages.
>
> I have not felt very respected here in comp.lang.c.  I guess we must
> have some different experiences in this place.  Who exactly is
> welcoming, and a warm person?
>
>>
>> Not to spring on you that you're wrong, it's not a conspiracy
>> against you, anyways as per the usual Shut Up goes out to any
>> of these JB, JG, PO, WM, ..., sock-puppet bots.
>
> I'm not sure I recognize all of these initials.  I'm sure I'll
> learn to not engage with the problem children here in comp.lang.c,
> but it's been a few days, and I'm still familiarizing myself with
> the regulars.
>
>>
>> Thief.
>
> Who exactly is the thief?  Does this person have stats in the Rogue
> class in dungeons and dragons?
>
>
> Happy C coding!
>
> [1] Those pretend em-dashes will surely make Dan Cross even more
> fictional.  I hope his rage isn't fictional and he'll byte every
> character I type here in comp.lang.c.

Thanks for writing. Good luck with that.

Now, if we attain to some decorum, that would be refreshing.


I "know" Java and am familiar with C/C++, and computer engineering.


Then, here the "Viswath & Charmaigne" is for the idea that there
are generous, usual sorts of algorithms, here "findings" and
"matchings", that can be implemented vector-wise scalar-word,
then that for things like: libc, POSIX tools, parsers, and
so on, or as among "text-utils", and for character handling,
that much like many of the distributions like Linux, FreeBSD,
and so on, have developed and released and made in their tree
the vectorized versions of string functions, that, there are
abstract models of regular "text algos" that make sense for
all modern commodity architectures in their default configuration,
for the system libraries and default toolset. For example, most
all of "text-utils" involves "findings" and "matchings", in a sense,
then as with regards to "sorting" and "translation" or "transformation",
which is not addressed.

The mentioned initialisms are, or were, awful sci.math trolls.

Good times, ....




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#124456 — Please don't extend your cross posting / What does abstract mean? (Was: Postgres is in C!)

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2026-07-29 23:00 +0200
SubjectPlease don't extend your cross posting / What does abstract mean? (Was: Postgres is in C!)
Message-ID<114dplq$kfdh$1@solani.org>
In reply to#124454
Hi,

You, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson, you seem
to arbitrarily add newsgroups to each of your
post. For comp.lang.fortran and now comp.lang.java.

Does this make sense? My news provider doesn't
allow more than 3 cross positings. Also my Hack
and my GPU experiment has nothing to do with a

particular language. The GPU hardware exists
independent of a hardware, same Hack which has
a abstract VM definition. The same for WAM,

its an acronym for Warren Abstract Machine:

In 1983, David H. D. Warren designed an abstract
machine for the execution of Prolog consisting
of a memory architecture and an instruction set
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Abstract_Machine

You can view Hack primarily as a abstract Machine
first, although I don't know whether this phrase
has still a meaning nowadays. Rossy Boy claimed

to know terms such as interpreter, etc.. But then
he is also mumbling about "text-utils". Well, well,
... there is a lot to learn.

Hope this Helps!

Bye

Ross Finlayson schrieb:
> On 07/29/2026 12:46 PM, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote:
>> On 30/07/2026 2:13 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
>>
>>> https://www.theregister.com/databases/2026/07/29/after-rewriting-sqlite-
>>> in-rust-turso-turns-its-sights-on-postgres/5279835
>>>
>>> I don't much care about Rust. It's yet another Google product,
>>> with the idea of not having exception handling, then supposedly
>>> it's efficient and safe, yet, it's efficient by not being safe,
>>> and safe by not being efficient. Then there's the macro/metaprogramming
>>> front-end, which basically doesn't validate
>>> like templates or otherwise for compile-time invariants,
>>> that is basically like people who use string substititution instead
>>> of object models, who all suffer injection attacks.
>>
>> Personally, I like Postgres in C, and I hope it stays there.  I used to
>> maintain PL/Java, and got intimately familiar with some of the limi-
>> tations of the JNI interface.  And while there's some new Java foreign
>> function interface now, it doesn't replace JNI.  Especially for projects
>> that embed the JVM like PL/Java.
>>
>> I haven't contributed to that project for maybe one and half decade, and
>> now that I'm using Java again -- a project I'll mention in another
>> thread --[1] I may just resume some duties in PL/Java.  But that's a
>> future adventure that may or may not happen.
>>
>> So, I was going to say something about Postgres?  Right, I'm sure the
>> author of Postgres-in-Rust will run into some of the problems people
>> always run into when they attempt to rewrite other large projects, and
>> that's not learning from the prior mistakes.  I try to avoid that.
>>
>> Some of that I learned the hard way, and some of that I learned by read-
>> ing the /Mythical Man Month/.  I don't remember the author's name, and
>> my physical copy is not in my current library, but I believe the author
>> is famous enough I don't need to mention him by name.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This latest manic episode has that in some more clinical or caring
>>> settings, then one might wonder over the author's need to get help
>>> or whether they're lost their mittens. In another view, though,
>>> that's crazy-town and it's not a good place and we don't go there
>>> any-more, population burse-scheiss-bots. Anyways here we just
>>> generally respect people well enough to let them well alone.
>>
>> I don't remote diagnose people.  While I don't have a medical license
>> to lose, I feel it's impolite to potentially mis-diagnose people over
>> text messages.
>>
>> I have not felt very respected here in comp.lang.c.  I guess we must
>> have some different experiences in this place.  Who exactly is
>> welcoming, and a warm person?
>>
>>>
>>> Not to spring on you that you're wrong, it's not a conspiracy
>>> against you, anyways as per the usual Shut Up goes out to any
>>> of these JB, JG, PO, WM, ..., sock-puppet bots.
>>
>> I'm not sure I recognize all of these initials.  I'm sure I'll
>> learn to not engage with the problem children here in comp.lang.c,
>> but it's been a few days, and I'm still familiarizing myself with
>> the regulars.
>>
>>>
>>> Thief.
>>
>> Who exactly is the thief?  Does this person have stats in the Rogue
>> class in dungeons and dragons?
>>
>>
>> Happy C coding!
>>
>> [1] Those pretend em-dashes will surely make Dan Cross even more
>> fictional.  I hope his rage isn't fictional and he'll byte every
>> character I type here in comp.lang.c.
> 
> Thanks for writing. Good luck with that.
> 
> Now, if we attain to some decorum, that would be refreshing.
> 
> 
> I "know" Java and am familiar with C/C++, and computer engineering.
> 
> 
> Then, here the "Viswath & Charmaigne" is for the idea that there
> are generous, usual sorts of algorithms, here "findings" and
> "matchings", that can be implemented vector-wise scalar-word,
> then that for things like: libc, POSIX tools, parsers, and
> so on, or as among "text-utils", and for character handling,
> that much like many of the distributions like Linux, FreeBSD,
> and so on, have developed and released and made in their tree
> the vectorized versions of string functions, that, there are
> abstract models of regular "text algos" that make sense for
> all modern commodity architectures in their default configuration,
> for the system libraries and default toolset. For example, most
> all of "text-utils" involves "findings" and "matchings", in a sense,
> then as with regards to "sorting" and "translation" or "transformation",
> which is not addressed.
> 
> The mentioned initialisms are, or were, awful sci.math trolls.
> 
> Good times, ....
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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#124461 — Re: Please don't extend your cross posting / What does abstract mean? (Was: Postgres is in C!)

FromJohann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid>
Date2026-07-30 21:05 +0800
SubjectRe: Please don't extend your cross posting / What does abstract mean? (Was: Postgres is in C!)
Message-ID<O_HaS.8943$h9f1.4862@fx02.ams4>
In reply to#124456
On 30/07/2026 5:00 AM, Mild Shock wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> You, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson, you seem
> to arbitrarily add newsgroups to each of your
> post. For comp.lang.fortran and now comp.lang.java.
> 
> Does this make sense? My news provider doesn't
> allow more than 3 cross positings. 

It makes a lot of sense from my perspective, and my newsprovider doesn't
mind, as you've seen.  I don't have issues with other newsproviders, so
I'll endeavor [1] to limit my cross postings, at least when replying to
you.

>                                     Also my Hack
> and my GPU experiment has nothing to do with a
> 
> particular language. The GPU hardware exists
> independent of a hardware, same Hack which has
> a abstract VM definition. The same for WAM,
> 
> its an acronym for Warren Abstract Machine:

I've been "playing" so to speak with a different virtual machine lately. 
  It's
my current Java project [but I'll refrain from posting in comp.lang.java
for now].  I've been adding features to Mars, the MIPS emulator.  This
is different from /Digital Mars/ the compiler.  And neither have any
connection to Digital, formerly of VAX and OpenVMS fame.

> 
> In 1983, David H. D. Warren designed an abstract
> machine for the execution of Prolog consisting
> of a memory architecture and an instruction set
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Abstract_Machine
> 
> You can view Hack primarily as a abstract Machine
> first, although I don't know whether this phrase
> has still a meaning nowadays. Rossy Boy claimed
> 
> to know terms such as interpreter, etc.. But then
> he is also mumbling about "text-utils". Well, well,
> ... there is a lot to learn.

I'm not really interested in Hack.  Though I believe I've come across this
project before.  When it comes time to practice with /real hardware/ so
to speak, I'll practice with an FPGA.  Until then, I'm happy with
extending the MIPS emulator.

I also have a copy of /Virtual Machines/ by Smith & Nair on my shelf
It seems readily applicable to your efforts, but I'm not going to
suggest you buy it.  I'm sure you can find a copy at a convenient
library.

On abstract machines, I've been interested in the Z machine, and not
the /Warren Abstract Machine/.  As you undoubtedly know, the Z machine
was invented at Infocom, and intended to play text adventure games.

I may still implement my own Z machine interpreter.  How many /virtual
machine/ projects do you have currently open?


[1] Is this another "ChatGPT vocabulary?"  I don't know.  Dan Cross
is the expert, because he's fictional like ChatGPT.
-- 
Johann | email: invalid -> com | http://www.myrkraverk.com/blog/
I'm not from the Internet, I just work there. | via Easynews.com

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