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| Started by | Joe Snodgrass <joe.snod@yahoo.com> |
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| First post | 2011-04-30 12:14 -0700 |
| Last post | 2011-05-03 16:48 +0000 |
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How stupid ARE people? Joe Snodgrass <joe.snod@yahoo.com> - 2011-04-30 12:14 -0700
Re: How stupid ARE people? Deeyana <d.awlberg@hotmail.invalid> - 2011-04-30 19:48 +0000
Re: How stupid ARE people? David Lamb <dalamb@cs.queensu.ca> - 2011-04-30 19:03 -0400
Re: How stupid ARE people? "Twayne" <nobody@devnull.spamcop.net> - 2011-04-30 19:26 -0400
Re: How stupid ARE people? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-04-30 20:08 -0400
Re: How stupid ARE people? Unrest <unrest@nullvector.org> - 2011-05-01 05:27 +0000
Re: How stupid ARE people? David Lamb <dalamb@cs.queensu.ca> - 2011-05-01 09:15 -0400
Re: How stupid ARE people? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-05-01 09:28 -0400
Re: How stupid ARE people? "Twayne" <nobody@devnull.spamcop.net> - 2011-05-02 12:11 -0400
Re: How stupid ARE people? Tim Streater <timstreater@waitrose.com> - 2011-05-02 17:18 +0100
Re: How stupid ARE people? "Twayne" <nobody@devnull.spamcop.net> - 2011-05-03 10:33 -0400
Re: How stupid ARE people? Tim Streater <timstreater@waitrose.com> - 2011-05-03 16:58 +0100
Re: How stupid ARE people? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-05-03 18:15 -0400
Re: How stupid ARE people? "Twayne" <nobody@devnull.spamcop.net> - 2011-05-04 19:46 -0400
Re: How stupid ARE people? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-05-04 23:14 -0400
Re: How stupid ARE people? "Mr. B-o-B" <mr.chew.baka@gmail.com> - 2011-05-05 10:23 -0500
Re: How stupid ARE people? Michael Fesser <netizen@gmx.de> - 2011-05-05 22:44 +0200
Re: How stupid ARE people? Michael Fesser <netizen@gmx.de> - 2011-05-02 18:45 +0200
Re: How stupid ARE people? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2011-05-01 00:27 +0000
Re: How stupid ARE people? Joe Snodgrass <joe.snod@yahoo.com> - 2011-05-03 06:33 -0700
Re: How stupid ARE people? Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2011-05-03 06:55 -0700
Re: How stupid ARE people? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-05-03 16:21 +0100
Re: How stupid ARE people? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2011-05-03 16:48 +0000
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| From | Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> |
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| Date | 2011-05-03 06:55 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <9977f99f-bb5d-4d46-88f2-a4cdcbac89e9@d1g2000yqm.googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #4619 |
On May 3, 4:33 pm, Joe Snodgrass <joe.s...@yahoo.com> wrote: > On Apr 30, 8:27 pm, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > > > > > > > In comp.lang.phpJoeSnodgrass<joe.s...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > After all the scary news about smart phones broadcasting people's > > > locations, I can't believe that > > > > 1) Some genius doesn't build a smart phone with no location tracking > > > and corner the market on people who want no part of it. There's money > > > to be made, genius! > > > > 2) Manufacturers don't put a control (preferably a hardware switch) on > > > the annoying things to *reliably* leave the feature turned off. > > > > 3) Customers don't raise a ruckus and demand that the feature be put > > > under their control, or else. > > > > Americans are heroin addicts, who will suck up anything, as long as > > > they get their shot every half hour. > > > The FCC has required that all cell phone companies be able to trace > > cell phone calls to a location since 2005. > > > You can thank 9/11 for that rule. > > > Only whether or not the user can access the tracking data is optional. > > > The only money to be made with a phone with no location tracking is in > > the fines and penalties you will get for selling it. > > Then the only alternative is to try disconnect the GPS chip. I > suppose that it's too much to ask for the chip to have little legs, so > you can just cut it off the circuit by snipping the power pin. I > wonder if the OS is robust enough to tolerate a loss of that signal or > if you'd get the cellphone equivalent of a BSOD. Location can be tracked even without GPS chip. Only accuracy of tracking is bit lower so one using the information needs to shoot you with a bit bigger rocket. The mobile network knows very well where you are at any given moment. How else it routes the incoming calls to you?
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2011-05-03 16:21 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <ipp6ic$sqk$2@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #4620 |
Öö Tiib wrote: > On May 3, 4:33 pm, Joe Snodgrass <joe.s...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> On Apr 30, 8:27 pm, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> In comp.lang.phpJoeSnodgrass<joe.s...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> After all the scary news about smart phones broadcasting people's >>>> locations, I can't believe that >>>> 1) Some genius doesn't build a smart phone with no location tracking >>>> and corner the market on people who want no part of it. There's money >>>> to be made, genius! >>>> 2) Manufacturers don't put a control (preferably a hardware switch) on >>>> the annoying things to *reliably* leave the feature turned off. >>>> 3) Customers don't raise a ruckus and demand that the feature be put >>>> under their control, or else. >>>> Americans are heroin addicts, who will suck up anything, as long as >>>> they get their shot every half hour. >>> The FCC has required that all cell phone companies be able to trace >>> cell phone calls to a location since 2005. >>> You can thank 9/11 for that rule. >>> Only whether or not the user can access the tracking data is optional. >>> The only money to be made with a phone with no location tracking is in >>> the fines and penalties you will get for selling it. >> Then the only alternative is to try disconnect the GPS chip. I >> suppose that it's too much to ask for the chip to have little legs, so >> you can just cut it off the circuit by snipping the power pin. I >> wonder if the OS is robust enough to tolerate a loss of that signal or >> if you'd get the cellphone equivalent of a BSOD. > > Location can be tracked even without GPS chip. Only accuracy of > tracking is bit lower so one using the information needs to shoot you > with a bit bigger rocket. The mobile network knows very well where you > are at any given moment. How else it routes the incoming calls to you? Magic? :-) the answer is of course not to carry a mobile that is switched on...if you don't want to be tracked.
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2011-05-03 16:48 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <08o598-rt6.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #4619 |
In comp.lang.php Joe Snodgrass <joe.snod@yahoo.com> wrote: > On Apr 30, 8:27 pm, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >> In comp.lang.phpJoeSnodgrass<joe.s...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > After all the scary news about smart phones broadcasting people's >> > locations, I can't believe that >> >> > 1) Some genius doesn't build a smart phone with no location tracking >> > and corner the market on people who want no part of it. There's money >> > to be made, genius! >> >> > 2) Manufacturers don't put a control (preferably a hardware switch) on >> > the annoying things to *reliably* leave the feature turned off. >> >> > 3) Customers don't raise a ruckus and demand that the feature be put >> > under their control, or else. >> >> > Americans are heroin addicts, who will suck up anything, as long as >> > they get their shot every half hour. >> >> The FCC has required that all cell phone companies be able to trace >> cell phone calls to a location since 2005. >> >> You can thank 9/11 for that rule. >> >> Only whether or not the user can access the tracking data is optional. >> >> The only money to be made with a phone with no location tracking is in >> the fines and penalties you will get for selling it. > > Then the only alternative is to try disconnect the GPS chip. I > suppose that it's too much to ask for the chip to have little legs, so > you can just cut it off the circuit by snipping the power pin. I > wonder if the OS is robust enough to tolerate a loss of that signal or > if you'd get the cellphone equivalent of a BSOD. Not all phones use GPS, so that is not an alternative. The only real alternative is to not carry a cellphone if you are that paranoid or involved in questionable activities. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply.
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