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Re: “ChattyG takes a college freshman C/C++ programming exam”

From Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c++, comp.lang.c
Subject Re: “ChattyG takes a college freshman C/C++ programming exam”
Date 2023-10-15 17:53 -0400
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On 10/15/23 3:51 PM, Pavel wrote:
> Anton Shepelev wrote:
>> candycanearter07 to Anton Shepelev:
>>
>>>> And although C allows the definition of self-referential
>>>> structs, it does [not] allow the declaration of self-
>>>> referencial functions.
>>>
>>> What if you typedef'd the function pointer?
>>
>> That's what I did:
>>
>>     typedef void   (*fp   )( void );
>>     typedef stm_fp (*func )( struct my_struct * s, int i );
>>
>> As you see, the `func' still must return something other
>> than func...
>>
>>> Also, you could probably get away with it by just setting
>>> it to a void pointer and casting the return value to the
>>> function pointer.
>>
>> Yes, to a void /function/ pointer, because void* is
>> incompatible with void(*)(void).  And then it is not a
>> truely recursive declaration, and requires additional work
>> to invoke. 
> ...
> 
> The below seems to work in gcc, unsure if this is standard-compliant but 
> does not require extra work to invoke. If it is, I understand that the 
> fptr type is not that of pointer to f, but your question does not 
> qualify whether the function should return the value of a pointer to 
> itself or a pointer of type of itself or both. If the former, the answer 
> seems to be "yes" because the second call by pointer seems to work, no?
> 
> 
> typedef void* (*vfptr_t)();
> 
> vfptr_t f(int n)
> {
>    printf("I am f n=%d\n", n);
>    return (vfptr_t)&f;
> }
> 
> int
> main(int argc, char* argv[])
> {
>    vfptr_t fptr = f(5);
>    fptr(6);
>    return 0;
> }

No, it doesn't meet the strict definition of the challenge, as if it 
did, then the following would work:


int
main()
{
     vfptr_t fptr1 = f(5);
     vfptr_t fptr2 = fptr1(6);
     return 0;
}

as the pointer needs to act just like the function.

It seems that the best that can be done is to have the function actually 
return a pointer to some function type, and then cast that to another 
type that represents a function that returns a pointer the that function 
type.

The issue is that to make it return the right type without needing a 
cast, forces an infinite level of indirection in the type, while with 
the cast, in adding one level, makes things work.

The problem is that in calling, we are effectively removing a level of 
indirection from the definition and the only sort of number that can be 
reduced by 1 and still be the same is an infinite number.

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