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Re: How do C -programmers do reliable string handling?

From Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c++
Subject Re: How do C -programmers do reliable string handling?
Date 2022-09-25 13:34 +0200
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Am 25.09.2022 um 10:50 schrieb Muttley@dastardlyhq.com:
> On Sun, 25 Sep 2022 00:47:13 +0300
> JiiPee <kerrttuPoistaTama11@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 24/09/2022 22:29, Gawr Gura wrote:
>>> but they don't provide any real
>>> guarantee against outside manipulation.
>>
>>
>> If someone really wants to
>>> modify your object they can always convert it to a char array and fiddle
>>> with it.
>>
>> Sure, although in my 30 years C++ I don't remember ever facing this
>> problem. It is quite difficult to accidentally do this.
> 
> Many years ago faced with needing to access a private variable in a class
> that didn't have a getter method written by a team that refused to provide one
> for reasons I never understood, so I simply took the address of the first
> public variable following it, counted back and derefrenced the pointer. Very
> dodgy but it worked (until they changed the class layout obv).
> 
> eg:
> 
> #include <stdio.h>
> 
> class myclass
> {
>          int i;
> public:
>          int j;
>          myclass(): i(123) { }
> };
> 
> 
> int main()
> {
>          myclass mc;
>          int *p = &mc.j;
>          --p;
>          printf("%d\n",*p);
>          return 0;
> }

Why not (&mc.j)[-1] ?

> 
> 
> 

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How do C -programmers do reliable string handling? JiiPee <kerrttuPoistaTama11@gmail.com> - 2022-09-24 20:22 +0300
  Re: How do C -programmers do reliable string handling? Bo Persson <bo@bo-persson.se> - 2022-09-24 21:00 +0200
  Re: How do C -programmers do reliable string handling? Gawr Gura <gawrgura@mail.hololive.com> - 2022-09-24 12:29 -0700
    Re: How do C -programmers do reliable string handling? JiiPee <kerrttuPoistaTama11@gmail.com> - 2022-09-25 00:47 +0300
      Re: How do C -programmers do reliable string handling? Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-09-25 08:50 +0000
        Re: How do C -programmers do reliable string handling? JiiPee <kerrttuPoistaTama11@gmail.com> - 2022-09-25 13:37 +0300
        Re: How do C -programmers do reliable string handling? JiiPee <kerrttuPoistaTama11@gmail.com> - 2022-09-25 13:38 +0300
        Re: How do C -programmers do reliable string handling? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-09-25 13:34 +0200
          Re: How do C -programmers do reliable string handling? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-09-25 17:00 +0200
          Re: How do C -programmers do reliable string handling? Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-09-25 15:14 +0000
      Re: How do C -programmers do reliable string handling? Gawr Gura <gawrgura@mail.hololive.com> - 2022-09-25 09:22 -0700
        Re: How do C -programmers do reliable string handling? JiiPee <kerrttuPoistaTama11@gmail.com> - 2022-09-26 01:01 +0300
          Re: How do C -programmers do reliable string handling? Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-09-25 19:02 -0400
            Re: How do C -programmers do reliable string handling? JiiPee <kerrttuPoistaTama11@gmail.com> - 2022-09-26 07:27 +0300
              Re: How do C -programmers do reliable string handling? Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-09-26 15:19 +0000
                Re: How do C -programmers do reliable string handling? JiiPee <kerrttuPoistaTama11@gmail.com> - 2022-09-26 21:53 +0300
                Re: How do C -programmers do reliable string handling? Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-09-26 20:42 -0400
                Re: How do C -programmers do reliable string handling? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2022-09-26 17:54 -0700
                Re: How do C -programmers do reliable string handling? Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-09-27 09:36 +0000
                Re: How do C -programmers do reliable string handling? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-09-27 15:28 +0100
          Re: How do C -programmers do reliable string handling? Gawr Gura <gawrgura@mail.hololive.com> - 2022-09-25 16:34 -0700
            Re: How do C -programmers do reliable string handling? JiiPee <kerrttuPoistaTama11@gmail.com> - 2022-09-26 07:32 +0300
    Re: How do C -programmers do reliable string handling? Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2022-09-26 08:33 +0000
      Re: How do C -programmers do reliable string handling? Paavo Helde <eesnimi@osa.pri.ee> - 2022-09-26 12:18 +0300
        Re: How do C -programmers do reliable string handling? Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2022-09-26 09:47 +0000
      Re: How do C -programmers do reliable string handling? Gawr Gura <gawrgura@mail.hololive.com> - 2022-09-26 07:40 -0700
  Re: How do C -programmers do reliable string handling? Paavo Helde <eesnimi@osa.pri.ee> - 2022-09-24 23:04 +0300
    Re: How do C -programmers do reliable string handling? JiiPee <kerrttuPoistaTama11@gmail.com> - 2022-09-25 00:44 +0300
  Re: How do C -programmers do reliable string handling? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2022-09-26 02:03 -0700

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