Re: "Carbon, a new programming language from Google, aims to be C++

From	Muttley@dastardlyhq.com
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Subject	Re: "Carbon, a new programming language from Google, aims to be C++
Date	2022-07-21 15:01 +0000
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On Thu, 21 Jul 2022 16:01:54 +0200
David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:
>On 21/07/2022 02:06, Chris Vine wrote:
>> On Thu, 21 Jul 2022 01:29:08 +0200
>> Manfred <noname@add.invalid> wrote:
>>> One major problem I see with all those wannabe C++ successor is that C++
>>> has built a foundation that is several decades long, which counts for
>>> reliability and stability of the language (until the committee will
>>> manage to ruin this by keeping on doing what they are doing as of late)
>>> These qualities are very valuable in projects and organizations where
>>> product quality matters.
>>>
>>> In order to gain a comparable level of recognition, a successor of C++
>>> would have to be building a similar foundation, and die along the way.
>> 
>> Indeed, as Keynes said "In the long run we are all dead".  No one knows
>> what language people (if they then exist) will be programming in in 100
>> years time.
>> 
>
>We know some of it.  We'll still have C, Cobol, and a bit of Fortran :-)

It'll depend heavily on how hardware evolves and I suspect the hardware
that exists in 100 years will bear little to no resemblence to what we
have now either in physical construction or logical operation. Perhaps it'll
be quantum, perhaps it'll be something that hasn't even been thought of yet.

>> The thing I take from this is that there is some level of organisation
>> within that company that is dissatisfied with C++'s evolution.  Whether
>> this is a transient phenomenen, some cry for solace, or something more
>> long lasting remains to be seen.
>
>They are not the first developers to realise that C++ is not perfect!

https://pmac-agpc.ca/project-management-tree-swing-story

Number 12 is how C++ started out, Number 6 is what C++ should be, Number 3 is 
what the steering committee have created in the last 10 years.

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"Carbon, a new programming language from Google, aims to be C++ successor" Cholo Lennon <chololennon@hotmail.com> - 2022-07-19 23:08 -0300
  Re: "Carbon, a new programming language from Google, aims to be C++ Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-07-20 08:29 +0000
    Re: "Carbon, a new programming language from Google, aims to be C++ Cholo Lennon <chololennon@hotmail.com> - 2022-07-20 16:38 -0300
      Re: "Carbon, a new programming language from Google, aims to be C++ Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2022-07-20 14:38 -0700
        Re: "Carbon, a new programming language from Google, aims to be C++ Cholo Lennon <chololennon@hotmail.com> - 2022-07-20 18:49 -0300
          Re: "Carbon, a new programming language from Google, aims to be C++ Chris Vine <chris@cvine--nospam--.freeserve.co.uk> - 2022-07-21 00:04 +0100
            Re: "Carbon, a new programming language from Google, aims to be C++ Cholo Lennon <chololennon@hotmail.com> - 2022-07-20 20:20 -0300
  Re: "Carbon, a new programming language from Google, aims to be C++ successor" Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2022-07-20 09:49 +0000
    Re: "Carbon, a new programming language from Google, aims to be C++ successor" Cholo Lennon <chololennon@hotmail.com> - 2022-07-20 16:50 -0300
    Re: "Carbon, a new programming language from Google, aims to be C++ successor" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2022-07-20 14:38 -0700
    Re: "Carbon, a new programming language from Google, aims to be C++ successor" Manfred <noname@add.invalid> - 2022-07-21 01:29 +0200
      Re: "Carbon, a new programming language from Google, aims to be C++ successor" Chris Vine <chris@cvine--nospam--.freeserve.co.uk> - 2022-07-21 01:06 +0100
        Re: "Carbon, a new programming language from Google, aims to be C++ successor" David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-07-21 16:01 +0200
          Re: "Carbon, a new programming language from Google, aims to be C++ Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-07-21 15:01 +0000
            Re: "Carbon, a new programming language from Google, aims to be C++ "gdo...@gmail.com" <gdotone@gmail.com> - 2022-07-21 08:45 -0700
              Re: "Carbon, a new programming language from Google, aims to be C++ Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2022-07-22 06:56 +0000
                Re: "Carbon, a new programming language from Google, aims to be C++ David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-07-22 10:13 +0200
            Re: "Carbon, a new programming language from Google, aims to be C++ David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-07-21 18:52 +0200
              Re: "Carbon, a new programming language from Google, aims to be C++ "gdo...@gmail.com" <gdotone@gmail.com> - 2022-07-21 12:42 -0700
                Re: "Carbon, a new programming language from Google, aims to be C++ "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2022-07-21 12:45 -0700
              Re: "Carbon, a new programming language from Google, aims to be C++ Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2022-07-22 07:03 +0000
                Re: "Carbon, a new programming language from Google, aims to be C++ Christian Gollwitzer <auriocus@gmx.de> - 2022-07-22 09:44 +0200
                Re: "Carbon, a new programming language from Google, aims to be C++ Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2022-07-22 01:20 -0700
                Re: "Carbon, a new programming language from Google, aims to be C++ Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-07-22 08:38 +0000
                Re: "Carbon, a new programming language from Google, aims to be C++ Christian Gollwitzer <auriocus@gmx.de> - 2022-07-22 10:39 +0200
                Re: "Carbon, a new programming language from Google, aims to be C++ Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2022-07-22 02:13 -0700
                Re: "Carbon, a new programming language from Google, aims to be C++ Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2022-07-22 09:49 +0000
                Re: "Carbon, a new programming language from Google, aims to be C++ Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2022-07-22 05:05 -0700
                Re: "Carbon, a new programming language from Google, aims to be C++ scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2022-07-22 13:07 +0000
                Re: "Carbon, a new programming language from Google, aims to be C++ Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2022-07-24 07:38 +0000
                Re: "Carbon, a new programming language from Google, aims to be C++ Bo Persson <bo@bo-persson.se> - 2022-07-24 12:15 +0200
              Re: "Carbon, a new programming language from Google, aims to be C++ Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-07-22 08:26 +0000
            Re: "Carbon, a new programming language from Google, aims to be C++ "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2022-07-21 12:39 -0700
              Re: "Carbon, a new programming language from Google, aims to be C++ Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-07-22 08:36 +0000
  Re: "Carbon, a new programming language from Google, aims to be C++ successor" Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2022-07-21 13:17 -0700
  Re: "Carbon, a new programming language from Google, aims to be C++ successor" Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-07-22 09:07 +0200
    Re: "Carbon, a new programming language from Google, aims to be C++ successor" Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2022-07-22 04:58 -0700
  Re: "Carbon, a new programming language from Google, aims to be C++ successor" Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-07-24 19:36 +0200
    Re: "Carbon, a new programming language from Google, aims to be C++ successor" Bo Persson <bo@bo-persson.se> - 2022-07-24 22:23 +0200
      Re: "Carbon, a new programming language from Google, aims to be C++ successor" Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2022-07-25 05:44 +0000
      Re: "Carbon, a new programming language from Google, aims to be C++ successor" Andreas Kempe <kempe@lysator.liu.se> - 2022-08-11 17:38 +0000
        Re: "Carbon, a new programming language from Google, aims to be C++ successor" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2022-08-11 12:06 -0700
          Re: "Carbon, a new programming language from Google, aims to be C++ successor" Andreas Kempe <kempe@lysator.liu.se> - 2022-08-12 10:54 +0000
        Re: "Carbon, a new programming language from Google, aims to be C++ successor" Paavo Helde <eesnimi@osa.pri.ee> - 2022-08-11 23:09 +0300
        Re: "Carbon, a new programming language from Google, aims to be C++ successor" Bo Persson <bo@bo-persson.se> - 2022-08-12 14:52 +0200
          Re: "Carbon, a new programming language from Google, aims to be C++ successor" Andreas Kempe <kempe@lysator.liu.se> - 2022-08-12 16:25 +0000
    Re: "Carbon, a new programming language from Google, aims to be C++ successor" Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2022-07-24 13:26 -0700
  Re: "Carbon, a new programming language from Google, aims to be C++ successor" Cholo Lennon <chololennon@hotmail.com> - 2022-07-25 15:02 -0300
    Re: "Carbon, a new programming language from Google, aims to be C++ successor" "gdo...@gmail.com" <gdotone@gmail.com> - 2022-07-26 20:04 -0700

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