Re: Integer promotions, conversions, coercions and templates :( (Conclusion)

From	"MikeP" <mp011011@some.org>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.c++
Subject	Re: Integer promotions, conversions, coercions and templates :( (Conclusion)
Date	2011-06-17 09:19 -0500
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
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Michael DOUBEZ wrote:
> On 17 juin, 14:58, "MikeP" <mp011...@some.org> wrote:
>> Michael DOUBEZ wrote:
>>>>> From experience, I find the super macro approach less elegant;
>>>>> reading inside a macro definition is quite a pain. And the
>>>>> functions are not caught by code analyzers.
>>
>>>> It's for precise usage, not general usage in place of templates.
>>
>>> For now.
>>
>> Until when?
>
> What I mean is once a tool is in use, there is the temptation for
> others to (mis)use it.
> Once, it becomes common practice, in the team culture, there is no way
> to stop it.

Kids should not play with knives. If the "team" lacks discipline, or the 
management lacks capability or effectiveness, isn't the project doomed at 
the onset? All programming constructs can be abused. Banning constructs 
or techniques is not the solution, in general. The key is judicious use 
(but that is not to say that banning isn't ever desireable). I try to 
program defensively in cognizance of the future which surely will be one 
without C++ in it (for me), so I don't want a "damn constructor in every 
freekin' line of code". "Software maintenance and evolution and 
lifetime", to me, has cross-language concerns.

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Integer promotions, conversions, coercions and templates :( "MikeP" <mp011011@some.org> - 2011-06-08 17:09 -0500
  Re: Integer promotions, conversions, coercions and templates :( Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-06-09 10:22 +1200
    Re: Integer promotions, conversions, coercions and templates :( "MikeP" <mp011011@some.org> - 2011-06-08 17:49 -0500
    Re: Integer promotions, conversions, coercions and templates :( "MikeP" <mp011011@some.org> - 2011-06-08 19:13 -0500
      Re: Integer promotions, conversions, coercions and templates :( Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-06-09 14:32 +1200
        Re: Integer promotions, conversions, coercions and templates :( "MikeP" <mp011011@some.org> - 2011-06-09 07:30 -0500
          Re: Integer promotions, conversions, coercions and templates :( Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2011-06-09 06:18 -0700
            Re: Integer promotions, conversions, coercions and templates :( "MikeP" <mp011011@some.org> - 2011-06-09 08:45 -0500
              Re: Integer promotions, conversions, coercions and templates :( Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2011-06-09 06:51 -0700
                Re: Integer promotions, conversions, coercions and templates :( "MikeP" <mp011011@some.org> - 2011-06-09 13:44 -0500
          Re: Integer promotions, conversions, coercions and templates :( Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-06-10 07:37 +1200
            Re: Integer promotions, conversions, coercions and templates :( "MikeP" <mp011011@some.org> - 2011-06-09 15:11 -0500
              Re: Integer promotions, conversions, coercions and templates :( Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-06-10 09:09 +1200
                Re: Integer promotions, conversions, coercions and templates :( "MikeP" <mp011011@some.org> - 2011-06-09 17:15 -0500
                Re: Integer promotions, conversions, coercions and templates :( Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-06-10 10:40 +1200
                Re: Integer promotions, conversions, coercions and templates :( "MikeP" <mp011011@some.org> - 2011-06-10 05:07 -0500
                Re: Integer promotions, conversions, coercions and templates :( Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2011-06-10 03:14 -0700
                Re: Integer promotions, conversions, coercions and templates :( Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2011-06-10 03:19 -0700
                Re: Integer promotions, conversions, coercions and templates :( "MikeP" <mp011011@some.org> - 2011-06-10 06:08 -0500
                Re: Integer promotions, conversions, coercions and templates :( Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2011-06-10 04:32 -0700
                Re: Integer promotions, conversions, coercions and templates :( "MikeP" <mp011011@some.org> - 2011-06-10 07:14 -0500
                Re: Integer promotions, conversions, coercions and templates :( Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2011-06-10 05:27 -0700
                Re: Integer promotions, conversions, coercions and templates :( "MikeP" <mp011011@some.org> - 2011-06-10 07:35 -0500
                Re: Integer promotions, conversions, coercions and templates :( Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2011-06-10 06:47 -0700
                Re: Integer promotions, conversions, coercions and templates :( "MikeP" <mp011011@some.org> - 2011-06-10 06:18 -0500
                Re: Integer promotions, conversions, coercions and templates :( Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-06-11 08:08 +1200
                Re: Integer promotions, conversions, coercions and templates :( "MikeP" <mp011011@some.org> - 2011-06-10 18:41 -0500
    Re: Integer promotions, conversions, coercions and templates :( "MikeP" <mp011011@some.org> - 2011-06-10 08:11 -0500
  Re: Integer promotions, conversions, coercions and templates :( Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2011-06-09 06:28 -0700
    Re: Integer promotions, conversions, coercions and templates :( "MikeP" <mp011011@some.org> - 2011-06-09 08:50 -0500
  Re: Integer promotions, conversions, coercions and templates :( (Summary so far) "MikeP" <mp011011@some.org> - 2011-06-10 08:40 -0500
    Re: Integer promotions, conversions, coercions and templates :( (Summary so far) Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2011-06-10 07:14 -0700
      Re: Integer promotions, conversions, coercions and templates :( (Summary so far) "MikeP" <mp011011@some.org> - 2011-06-10 09:17 -0500
    Re: Integer promotions, conversions, coercions and templates :( (Summary so far)(Corrections and more) "MikeP" <mp011011@some.org> - 2011-06-10 09:14 -0500
      Re: Integer promotions, conversions, coercions and templates :( (Results: Generated Code) "MikeP" <mp011011@some.org> - 2011-06-10 12:43 -0500
  Re: Integer promotions, conversions, coercions and templates :( (Conclusion) "MikeP" <mp011011@some.org> - 2011-06-14 18:35 -0500
    Re: Integer promotions, conversions, coercions and templates :( (Conclusion) Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-06-15 12:51 +1200
      Re: Integer promotions, conversions, coercions and templates :( (Conclusion) "MikeP" <mp011011@some.org> - 2011-06-15 08:45 -0500
    Re: Integer promotions, conversions, coercions and templates :( (Conclusion) Michael DOUBEZ <michael.doubez@free.fr> - 2011-06-15 03:33 -0700
      Re: Integer promotions, conversions, coercions and templates :( (Conclusion) "MikeP" <mp011011@some.org> - 2011-06-15 09:17 -0500
        Re: Integer promotions, conversions, coercions and templates :( (Conclusion) Michael DOUBEZ <michael.doubez@free.fr> - 2011-06-16 04:17 -0700
          Re: Integer promotions, conversions, coercions and templates :( (Conclusion) "MikeP" <mp011011@some.org> - 2011-06-16 09:45 -0500
            Re: Integer promotions, conversions, coercions and templates :( (Conclusion) Michael DOUBEZ <michael.doubez@free.fr> - 2011-06-17 01:56 -0700
              Re: Integer promotions, conversions, coercions and templates :( (Conclusion) "MikeP" <mp011011@some.org> - 2011-06-17 07:58 -0500
                Re: Integer promotions, conversions, coercions and templates :( (Conclusion) Michael DOUBEZ <michael.doubez@free.fr> - 2011-06-17 06:54 -0700
                Re: Integer promotions, conversions, coercions and templates :( (Conclusion) "MikeP" <mp011011@some.org> - 2011-06-17 09:19 -0500
              Re: Integer promotions, conversions, coercions and templates :( (Conclusion) "MikeP" <mp011011@some.org> - 2011-06-17 08:17 -0500
                Re: Integer promotions, conversions, coercions and templates :( (Conclusion) Michael DOUBEZ <michael.doubez@free.fr> - 2011-06-17 07:33 -0700
                Re: Integer promotions, conversions, coercions and templates :( (Conclusion) "MikeP" <mp011011@some.org> - 2011-06-17 09:49 -0500

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