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Re: We have a new standard!

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From Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com>
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Subject Re: We have a new standard!
Date Mon, 30 Dec 2024 03:14:57 -0800
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Paavo Helde <eesnimi@osa.pri.ee> writes:

> On 29.12.2024 15:51, David Brown wrote:
>
>> You can have an informed opinion about C++, and agree or disagree
>> with the opinions of the committee members.
>>
>> But what you don't get to do - or at least, don't get to do if you
>> want to be viewed seriously - is spout an /uninformed/ opinion.
>> That's no more than mindless prejudice, and of no interest to
>> anyone.
>
> Thanks David, for standing against the trolls.  It's a pity that
> personal freedoms are often interpreted as "my ignorant opinion has
> exactly the same worth as your expert knowledge".
>
> I'm all for personal freedoms, but my freedoms end where they might
> hurt other people, or the nature for that matter.  Boasting ignorant
> jumble can easily do that.

I agree with much of what you say.  I don't agree with the last
sentence.  Depending on other factors, a public broadcast of a
personal statement can produce enough of a negative effect so that
it should be prohibited, but simply boasting ignorant jumble does
not, by itself, fall into that category.  The nature of posting to
a newsgroup like this one does nothing to change that.

Personal opinion:  the comments from David Brown do more harm than
good here.  At some level he is just a guilty of giving a preachy
opinion as the person he is responding to.  It seems likely that
his statements will exacerbate the offending behavior rather than
diminish it.

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Re: We have a new standard! Sam <sam@email-scan.com> - 2024-12-27 21:51 -0500
  Re: We have a new standard! "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-12-27 20:11 -0800
  Re: We have a new standard! Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-12-28 10:19 +0000
    Re: We have a new standard! David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-28 16:20 +0100
      Re: We have a new standard! Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-12-29 09:32 +0000
        Re: We have a new standard! David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-29 14:51 +0100
          Re: We have a new standard! Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-12-29 16:16 +0000
            Re: We have a new standard! David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-30 08:34 +0100
              Re: We have a new standard! Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-12-30 09:34 +0000
                Re: We have a new standard! David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-30 15:37 +0100
                Re: We have a new standard! Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org - 2024-12-30 15:08 +0000
                Re: We have a new standard! James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-12-30 18:06 -0500
                Re: We have a new standard! Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-01-01 17:55 +0200
                Re: We have a new standard! Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2025-01-01 16:05 +0000
          Re: We have a new standard! Paavo Helde <eesnimi@osa.pri.ee> - 2024-12-30 00:12 +0200
            Re: We have a new standard! Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-30 00:44 +0200
              Re: We have a new standard! Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-30 03:17 -0800
                Re: We have a new standard! boltar@caprica.org - 2024-12-30 12:00 +0000
                Re: We have a new standard! David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-30 15:52 +0100
                Re: We have a new standard! Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-30 18:06 -0800
              Re: We have a new standard! Pavel <pauldontspamtolk@removeyourself.dontspam.yahoo> - 2024-12-30 22:26 -0500
            Re: We have a new standard! Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-30 03:14 -0800
              Re: We have a new standard! David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-30 16:05 +0100
              Re: We have a new standard! "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 16:02 -0800
                Re: We have a new standard! Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-12-30 17:58 -0800
                Re: We have a new standard! David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-31 10:54 +0100
                Re: We have a new standard! "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 13:40 -0800
          Re: We have a new standard! Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-30 13:25 +0200
            Re: We have a new standard! David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-12-30 17:15 +0100
              Re: We have a new standard! Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-01-04 21:40 +0200
    Re: We have a new standard! Phillip <nntp@fulltermprivacy.com> - 2024-12-28 13:05 -0500
      Re: We have a new standard! Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-12-29 09:43 +0000
        Re: We have a new standard! Sam <sam@email-scan.com> - 2024-12-29 08:50 -0500
          Re: We have a new standard! wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 22:33 +0800
            Re: We have a new standard! Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-12-29 16:17 +0000
              Re: We have a new standard! wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 01:08 +0800
                Re: We have a new standard! Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-12-29 17:11 +0000
          Re: We have a new standard! Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-12-29 16:15 +0000
            Re: We have a new standard! Sam <sam@email-scan.com> - 2024-12-29 11:57 -0500
              Re: We have a new standard! Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-12-29 17:08 +0000
              Re: We have a new standard! Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-29 19:50 +0200

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