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Re: flags & flagMask == flagMask can be true for flags != flagMask if flags is a superset of flagMask ?

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Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> writes:

> scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:
>
>> Muttley@dastardlyhq.com writes:
>>
>>> On Thu, 18 Aug 2022 09:58:59 +0200
>>>
>>>> As far as I understood that was exactly what they where aiming for.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the precedence heads-up.
>>>
>>> If in doubt just use brackets.  They're free.
>>
>> Parentheses work even better.   Unless bracket [] is UK
>> for parentheses ()?
>
> Yes, in the UK "brackets" are somewhat generic (i.e. any matched pair of
> symbols used to convey some extra meaning could be called brackets), but
> the default meaning is "()".  The pair "[]" are "square brackets" and
> "{}" are "curly brackets", though "braces" has taken hold as the name
> for "{}" among computer programmers.  For completeness, "<>" are usually
> called "angle brackets".

Sometimes I refer to "<>" as "pointy brackets".

> "Parentheses" is a well-understood term here, but sounds a tiny bit
> pretentious!

To me "parentheses" sounds natural and not at all pretentious.

> Are the terms used in the USA absolutely fixed and unambiguous?
> I.e. are "brackets" always "[]" even to a linguist?

Speaking as someone who has grown up and lived almost all of his
life in a culture and environment that uses American English
almost exclusively (and yes that is the United States), I feel
confident in saying that "brackets" always means "[]", and vice
versa.  Of course in certain contexts people will qualify the
word "brackets" (round brackets, square brackets, curly brackets)
in order to disambiguate different kinds of enclosing symbols.
But for the most part "brackets" without any additional context
means square brackets.

Many years ago there was even a Peanuts cartoon where "brackets"
was used to refer to the [ and ] characters.

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flags & flagMask == flagMask can be true for flags != flagMask if flags is a superset of flagMask ? "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2022-08-18 07:55 +0200
  Re: flags & flagMask == flagMask can be true for flags != flagMask if flags is a superset of flagMask ? Ike Naar <ike@sdf.org> - 2022-08-18 06:52 +0000
    Re: flags & flagMask == flagMask can be true for flags != flagMask if flags is a superset of flagMask ? "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2022-08-18 09:58 +0200
      Re: flags & flagMask == flagMask can be true for flags != flagMask if flags is a superset of flagMask ? Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-08-18 14:50 +0000
        Re: flags & flagMask == flagMask can be true for flags != flagMask if flags is a superset of flagMask ? "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2022-08-18 17:12 +0200
        Re: flags & flagMask == flagMask can be true for flags != flagMask if flags is a superset of flagMask ? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2022-08-18 15:29 +0000
          Re: flags & flagMask == flagMask can be true for flags != flagMask if flags is a superset of flagMask ? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-08-18 16:43 +0100
            Re: flags & flagMask == flagMask can be true for flags != flagMask if flags is a superset of flagMask ? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2022-08-18 16:10 +0000
            Re: flags & flagMask == flagMask can be true for flags != flagMask if flags is a superset of flagMask ? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-08-18 21:19 +0200
              Re: flags & flagMask == flagMask can be true for flags != flagMask if flags is a superset of flagMask ? Manfred <noname@add.invalid> - 2022-08-19 02:57 +0200
                Re: flags & flagMask == flagMask can be true for flags != flagMask if flags is a superset of flagMask ? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-08-19 08:29 +0200
            Re: flags & flagMask == flagMask can be true for flags != flagMask if flags is a superset of flagMask ? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2022-08-19 08:12 -0700
          Re: flags & flagMask == flagMask can be true for flags != flagMask if flags is a superset of flagMask ? Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> - 2022-08-18 16:47 +0100
            Re: flags & flagMask == flagMask can be true for flags != flagMask if Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-08-18 15:50 +0000
            Re: flags & flagMask == flagMask can be true for flags != flagMask if flags is a superset of flagMask ? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2022-08-18 10:46 -0700
              Re: flags & flagMask == flagMask can be true for flags != flagMask if flags is a superset of flagMask ? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2022-08-18 11:30 -0700
          Re: flags & flagMask == flagMask can be true for flags != flagMask if flags is a superset of flagMask ? Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-08-18 15:47 +0000
        Re: flags & flagMask == flagMask can be true for flags != flagMask if flags is a superset of flagMask ? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2022-08-19 08:53 -0700
          Re: flags & flagMask == flagMask can be true for flags != flagMask if flags is a superset of flagMask ? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-08-19 18:00 +0200
          Re: flags & flagMask == flagMask can be true for flags != flagMask if flags is a superset of flagMask ? Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-08-19 16:10 +0000
            Re: flags & flagMask == flagMask can be true for flags != flagMask if flags is a superset of flagMask ? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2022-08-19 16:45 -0700
    Re: flags & flagMask == flagMask can be true for flags != flagMask if flags is a superset of flagMask ? Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2022-08-19 06:01 +0000
      Re: flags & flagMask == flagMask can be true for flags != flagMask if flags is a superset of flagMask ? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-08-19 16:07 +0100
      Re: flags & flagMask == flagMask can be true for flags != flagMask if flags is a superset of flagMask ? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-08-19 16:08 +0100
  Re: flags & flagMask == flagMask can be true for flags != flagMask if flags is a superset of flagMask ? Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> - 2022-08-18 16:14 +0100
    Re: flags & flagMask == flagMask can be true for flags != flagMask if flags is a superset of flagMask ? "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2022-08-18 18:10 +0200
  Re: flags & flagMask == flagMask can be true for flags != flagMask if flags is a superset of flagMask ? Andrey Tarasevich <andreytarasevich@hotmail.com> - 2022-08-18 11:56 -0700
    Re: flags & flagMask == flagMask can be true for flags != flagMask if flags is a superset of flagMask ? "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2022-08-18 21:31 +0200
      Re: flags & flagMask == flagMask can be true for flags != flagMask if flags is a superset of flagMask ? Andrey Tarasevich <andreytarasevich@hotmail.com> - 2022-08-18 21:24 -0700
        Re: flags & flagMask == flagMask can be true for flags != flagMask if flags is a superset of flagMask ? "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2022-08-19 09:36 +0200

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