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Need a large PBX. [telecom]

Started bytls@panix.com (Thor Lancelot Simon)
First post2011-04-28 10:58 -0400
Last post2011-04-29 15:41 +0000
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  Need a large PBX. [telecom] tls@panix.com (Thor Lancelot Simon) - 2011-04-28 10:58 -0400
    Re: Need a large PBX. [telecom] kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2011-04-29 09:24 -0400
      Re: Need a large PBX. [telecom] The Kaminsky Family <kaminsky@kaminsky.org> - 2011-04-29 22:43 -0700
        Re: Need a large PBX. [telecom] The Kaminsky Family <kaminsky@kaminsky.org> - 2011-04-30 12:17 -0700
      Re: Need a large PBX. [telecom] "John Levine" <johnl@iecc.com> - 2011-04-29 14:52 +0000
        Re: Need a large PBX. [telecom] T <kd1s.nospam@cox.nospam.net> - 2011-04-30 22:26 -0400
          Re: Need a large PBX. [telecom] T <kd1s.nospam@cox.nospam.net> - 2011-05-28 22:27 -0400
            Re: Need a large PBX. [telecom] tlvp <tPlOvUpBErLeLsEs@hotmail.com> - 2011-06-02 09:52 -0400
      Re: Need a large PBX. [telecom] tls@panix.com (Thor Lancelot Simon) - 2011-04-29 15:41 +0000

#527 — Need a large PBX. [telecom]

Fromtls@panix.com (Thor Lancelot Simon)
Date2011-04-28 10:58 -0400
SubjectNeed a large PBX. [telecom]
Message-ID<ipbva7$7ji$1@panix5.panix.com>
I have a somewhat pressing need to replace an existing 400-extension
PBX which cannot be easily converted to VoIP and for which Centrex
service would not be economical (no surprise there).

I am pricing several options but I'm no longer up to date on what's
available in the unfashionable traditional-PBX marketplace.  What should
I be looking at, and what's it likely to run me?  Voicemail and a
dial-by-name attendant are requirements though I can bolt on an IVR system
of some kind for those if it's more cost effective. 

Almost all traffic is local to the PBX.  The minimal outside traffic
is currently handled by 10 ground-start trunks but this particular
aspect of the system could, of course, be replaced by something more
modern.  Elsewise, I really do want a plain vanilla old fashioned PBX.

Not that anyone seems to want to sell me one of those these days.

-- 
Thor Lancelot Simon	                                         tls@panix.com
    And now he couldn't remember when this passion had flown, leaving him so
  foolish and bewildered and astray: can any man?
						   William Styron

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#538

Fromkludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey)
Date2011-04-29 09:24 -0400
Message-ID<ipee79$s92$1@panix2.panix.com>
In reply to#527
Thor Lancelot Simon <tls@panix.com> wrote:
>Almost all traffic is local to the PBX.  The minimal outside traffic
>is currently handled by 10 ground-start trunks but this particular
>aspect of the system could, of course, be replaced by something more
>modern.  Elsewise, I really do want a plain vanilla old fashioned PBX.
>
>Not that anyone seems to want to sell me one of those these days.

Call your Nortel rep.  They will actually talk to you.
--scott


-- 
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

***** Moderator's Note *****

Is Rolm still in business?

Bill Horne
Moderator

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#540

FromThe Kaminsky Family <kaminsky@kaminsky.org>
Date2011-04-29 22:43 -0700
Message-ID<4dbba172$0$10600$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>
In reply to#538
On 4/29/2011 6:24 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
> Thor Lancelot Simon<tls@panix.com>  wrote:
>> Almost all traffic is local to the PBX.  The minimal outside traffic
>> is currently handled by 10 ground-start trunks but this particular
>> aspect of the system could, of course, be replaced by something more
>> modern.  Elsewise, I really do want a plain vanilla old fashioned PBX.
>>
>> Not that anyone seems to want to sell me one of those these days.
>
> Call your Nortel rep.  They will actually talk to you.
> --scott
>
>

> ***** Moderator's Note *****

> Is Rolm still in business?

When I stopped working for them (ten years ago - time flies!)
they were part of Siemens, and were no longer using the ROLM
name.  I think they are still around; I'll ping someone, and
post again what I find out.

Mark

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#555

FromThe Kaminsky Family <kaminsky@kaminsky.org>
Date2011-04-30 12:17 -0700
Message-ID<4dbc6023$0$10569$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>
In reply to#540
On 4/29/2011 10:43 PM, The Kaminsky Family wrote:
> On 4/29/2011 6:24 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
>> ***** Moderator's Note *****
>
>> Is Rolm still in business?
>
> When I stopped working for them (ten years ago - time flies!)
> they were part of Siemens, and were no longer using the ROLM
> name. I think they are still around; I'll ping someone, and
> post again what I find out.
>
> Mark

I heard back from a friend who had stayed on long after I left.

The last of engineering originally from the ROLM campus were laid off
about 2 years ago.  By then it was Siemens only in name - it was
a subsidiary of the Gores Group (an equity firm).  Siemens Networks Boca 
Raton is the last development site for the unit in the US; they
make an IP PBX.

Mark

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#543

From"John Levine" <johnl@iecc.com>
Date2011-04-29 14:52 +0000
Message-ID<20110429145233.54654.qmail@joyce.lan>
In reply to#538
>Call your Nortel rep.  They will actually talk to you.

Nortel?  They're in the process of being dismantled.  Who bought
their PBX business?

R's,
John

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#561

FromT <kd1s.nospam@cox.nospam.net>
Date2011-04-30 22:26 -0400
Message-ID<MPG.28268edc4eb34603989d31@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#543
In article <20110429145233.54654.qmail@joyce.lan>, johnl@iecc.com 
says...
> 
> >Call your Nortel rep.  They will actually talk to you.
> 
> Nortel?  They're in the process of being dismantled.  Who bought
> their PBX business?
> 
> R's,
> John

Didn't Google buy a bunch of Nortel's patents? 

And here's my take on VoIP systems, particularly Cisco. Not bad at all. 
And they don't need any special networking anymore. 

In fact my Cisco phone at work has my Ubuntu box hanging off it. 

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#678

FromT <kd1s.nospam@cox.nospam.net>
Date2011-05-28 22:27 -0400
Message-ID<MPG.284b792d716eede6989d35@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#561
In article <MPG.28268edc4eb34603989d31@news.eternal-september.org>, 
kd1s.nospam@cox.nospam.net says...
> 
> In article <20110429145233.54654.qmail@joyce.lan>, johnl@iecc.com 
> says...
> > 
> > >Call your Nortel rep.  They will actually talk to you.
> > 
> > Nortel?  They're in the process of being dismantled.  Who bought
> > their PBX business?
> > 
> > R's,
> > John
> 
> Didn't Google buy a bunch of Nortel's patents? 
> 
> And here's my take on VoIP systems, particularly Cisco. Not bad at all. 
> And they don't need any special networking anymore. 
> 
> In fact my Cisco phone at work has my Ubuntu box hanging off it. 

Oh but I should add something I just ran into. I don't like the fact 
that the Cisco phones package up voicemails as a wav file and then email 
it to you. So if I come into the office and see the message waiting 
LED's lit, I'll get the voicemail fromt the phone. If you do that it 
never forwards the voicemail to email. 

Well this past Friday I listened to my message, deleted the message and 
the LED's never extinguished. It was that way up until I left for the 
day so I filed a help desk ticket. We'll see what happens when I go in 
on Tuesday. 

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#699

Fromtlvp <tPlOvUpBErLeLsEs@hotmail.com>
Date2011-06-02 09:52 -0400
Message-ID<op.vwgbhpfqitl47o@acer250.gateway.2wire.net>
In reply to#678
On Sat, 28 May 2011 22:27:45 -0400, T <kd1s.nospam@cox.nospam.net> wrote:

>  ...
> Oh but I should add something I just ran into. I don't like the fact
> that the Cisco phones package up voicemails as a wav file and then email
> it to you. So if I come into the office and see the message waiting
> LED's lit, I'll get the voicemail fromt the phone. If you do that it
> never forwards the voicemail to email.
>
> Well this past Friday I listened to my message, deleted the message and
> the LED's never extinguished. It was that way up until I left for the
> day so I filed a help desk ticket. We'll see what happens when I go in
> on Tuesday.

So what *did* happen when you went in on Tuesday? Or is it too soon to tell?

Cheers, -- tlvp
-- 
Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP

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#550

Fromtls@panix.com (Thor Lancelot Simon)
Date2011-04-29 15:41 +0000
Message-ID<ipem6m$3bg$1@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#538
In article <ipee79$s92$1@panix2.panix.com>,
Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
>Thor Lancelot Simon <tls@panix.com> wrote:
>>Almost all traffic is local to the PBX.  The minimal outside traffic
>>is currently handled by 10 ground-start trunks but this particular
>>aspect of the system could, of course, be replaced by something more
>>modern.  Elsewise, I really do want a plain vanilla old fashioned PBX.
>>
>>Not that anyone seems to want to sell me one of those these days.
>
>Call your Nortel rep.  They will actually talk to you.

They're also operating in bankruptcy, are they not?

-- 
Thor Lancelot Simon	                                         tls@panix.com
    And now he couldn't remember when this passion had flown, leaving him so
  foolish and bewildered and astray: can any man?
						   William Styron

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