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  10 Years After Snowden's First Leak, What Have We Learned? [telecom] "The Telecom Digest" <digest-replies@telecom-digest.org> - 2023-06-12 10:32 -0400
    Re: 10 Years After Snowden's First Leak, What Have We Learned?  [telecom] "Marco Moock" <mo01@posteo.de> - 2023-06-14 08:19 +0200
      Re: [telecom] 10 Years After Snowden's First Leak, What Have We Learned? "Bill Horne" <telecom-replies@telecomdigest.net> - 2023-06-14 20:13 -0400

#14215 — 10 Years After Snowden's First Leak, What Have We Learned? [telecom]

Posted by BeauHD on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @11:30PM from the then-and-now dept.

An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Register:

     The world got a first glimpse into the US government's
     far-reaching surveillance of American citizens' communications --
     namely, their Verizon telephone calls -- 10 years ago this week
     when Edward Snowden's initial leaks hit the press. [...] In the
     decade since then, "reformers have made real progress advancing
     the bipartisan notion that Americans' liberty and security are
     not mutually exclusive," [US Senator Ron Wyden (D-OR)]
     said. "That has delivered tangible results: in 2015 Congress
     ended bulk collection of Americans' phone records by passing the
     USA Freedom Act." This bill sought to end the daily snooping into
     American's phone calls by forcing telcos to collect the records
     and make the Feds apply for the information.

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#14221 — Re: 10 Years After Snowden's First Leak, What Have We Learned? [telecom]

Am 12.06.2023 um 10:32:14 Uhr schrieb The Telecom Digest:

> 10 Years After Snowden's First Leak, What Have We Learned?

Most people have learned nothing. They don't save their files on their
own machines, they use services from Google etc.

Many people use Facebook, Whatsapp, Twitter, Tiktok.

They don't care if they are spied out.

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#14223 — Re: [telecom] 10 Years After Snowden's First Leak, What Have We Learned?

On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 08:19:18AM +0200, Marco Moock wrote:
> Am 12.06.2023 um 10:32:14 Uhr schrieb The Telecom Digest:
> 
>> 10 Years After Snowden's First Leak, What Have We Learned?

"We" weren't the ones who needed the lesson. Our government learned
that when it hires people whom have a conscience and orders them to
break the law, bad things happen.

> Most people have learned nothing. They don't save their files on their
> own machines, they use services from Google etc.
> 
> Many people use Facebook, Whatsapp, Twitter, Tiktok.
> 
> They don't care if they are spied out.

I think there's a kinder, gentler explanation: most people know that
almost everything they do on their computer while at home is a trivial
pursuit of entertainment, and not worth protecting. I don't keep my
back records in the cloud, nor my tax files, but I keep photos of my
family there, and pictures of our garden, and a blog as well.

The key isn't to care about spying: it's to never put things out in
public that we might be embarrassed to see on a billboard.

Bill

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