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Re: SSE 2008: Trigger: Modifying Data to be Written

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Gene Wirchenko wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Apr 2011 08:54:48 -0400, "Bob Barrows"
> <reb01501@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Gene Wirchenko wrote:
>>>>  2) I think that maintainability was covered by the code I borrowed
>>> from.  My derivative has
>>>          select * into #Inserted from Inserted
>>> at the beginning and then at the end, writes with
>>>          insert into Accounts select * from #Inserted
>
>> You consider this to be a good idea? Despite the number of experts
>> in the field that advise against using selstar (select *)? I won't
>> repeat that advice here: it's very easily found. I will say that I
>> have never seen an expert recommend its use.
>
>      Saying that something never has a valid use is a very broad
> statement.  It would be very easy for someone, even an expert, to miss
> edge cases where it would be a good idea.
>
>      This is definitely a case where one wants all columns.  Why make
> maintenance that much more difficult by insisting on listing all of
> the columns explicitly?
>
It is not a matter of wanting all the columns. It is a matter of writing
maintainable code that will not blow up just because a new column is added.
I disagree that listing all the columns makes code less maintainable.

An example where using selstar caused one of my colleagues to spend an
afternoon trying to fix a "bug" in his application occurred when he created
a view that used it, never expecting that he would have to recompile the
view to get it to return columns added after the initial compilation.

I've tested a trigger that uses selstar to select into a test table and it
does seem to behave as you want it to behave, not needing a recompile after
adding a column to the trigger table, so it should work as you desire
providing you solve the other problems Erland pointed out..

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SSE 2008: Trigger: Modifying Data to be Written Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2011-04-08 15:11 -0700
  Re: SSE 2008: Trigger: Modifying Data to be Written "Bob Barrows" <reb01501@NOSPAMyahoo.com> - 2011-04-08 18:44 -0400
    Re: SSE 2008: Trigger: Modifying Data to be Written Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2011-04-08 16:23 -0700
      Re: SSE 2008: Trigger: Modifying Data to be Written Erland Sommarskog <esquel@sommarskog.se> - 2011-04-09 11:22 +0200
        Re: SSE 2008: Trigger: Modifying Data to be Written Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2011-04-09 21:29 -0700
          Re: SSE 2008: Trigger: Modifying Data to be Written Erland Sommarskog <esquel@sommarskog.se> - 2011-04-10 14:48 +0200
            Re: SSE 2008: Trigger: Modifying Data to be Written Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2011-04-11 09:46 -0700
          Re: SSE 2008: Trigger: Modifying Data to be Written "Bob Barrows" <reb01501@NOSPAMyahoo.com> - 2011-04-10 08:54 -0400
            Re: SSE 2008: Trigger: Modifying Data to be Written Erland Sommarskog <esquel@sommarskog.se> - 2011-04-10 21:33 +0200
            Re: SSE 2008: Trigger: Modifying Data to be Written Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2011-04-11 09:42 -0700
              Re: SSE 2008: Trigger: Modifying Data to be Written "Bob Barrows" <reb01501@NOyahooSPAM.com> - 2011-04-11 14:55 -0400
                Re: SSE 2008: Trigger: Modifying Data to be Written Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2011-04-11 14:53 -0700
                Re: SSE 2008: Trigger: Modifying Data to be Written "Bob Barrows" <reb01501@NOSPAMyahoo.com> - 2011-04-11 18:49 -0400

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