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  eqldata.com  Access applications running on the web "without change" - existing forms, reports, VBA, etc bobalston@gmail.com - 2015-03-18 12:38 -0700
    Re: eqldata.com  Access applications running on the web "without change" - existing forms, reports, VBA, etc Patrick Finucane <patrickfinucanetx@gmail.com> - 2015-03-18 13:10 -0700
      Re: eqldata.com  Access applications running on the web "without change" - existing forms, reports, VBA, etc PW <emailaddyinsig@ifIremember.com> - 2015-03-18 15:04 -0600
    Re: eqldata.com  Access applications running on the web "without change" - existing forms, reports, VBA, etc PW <emailaddyinsig@ifIremember.com> - 2015-03-18 15:04 -0600
      Re: eqldata.com  Access applications running on the web "without change" - existing forms, reports, VBA, etc BobAlston <bobalston9@yahoo.com> - 2015-03-18 18:37 -0500
        Re: eqldata.com  Access applications running on the web "without change" - existing forms, reports, VBA, etc BobAlston <bobalston9@yahoo.com> - 2015-03-18 19:45 -0500
          Re: eqldata.com  Access applications running on the web "without change" - existing forms, reports, VBA, etc BobAlston <bobalston9@yahoo.com> - 2015-03-18 19:51 -0500
            Re: eqldata.com  Access applications running on the web "without change" - existing forms, reports, VBA, etc PW <emailaddyinsig@ifIremember.com> - 2015-03-18 20:57 -0600
              Re: eqldata.com  Access applications running on the web "without change" - existing forms, reports, VBA, etc "Albert D. Kallal" <PleaseNOSpamkallal@msn.com> - 2015-03-20 13:50 -0600
        Re: eqldata.com  Access applications running on the web "without change" - existing forms, reports, VBA, etc PW <emailaddyinsig@ifIremember.com> - 2015-03-18 20:55 -0600
    Re: eqldata.com  Access applications running on the web "without change" - existing forms, reports, VBA, etc "Albert D. Kallal" <PleaseNOSpamkallal@msn.com> - 2015-03-20 13:41 -0600
      Re: eqldata.com  Access applications running on the web "without change" - existing forms, reports, VBA, etc "Ron Paii" <None@none.com> - 2015-03-23 07:00 -0500

#10517 — eqldata.com Access applications running on the web "without change" - existing forms, reports, VBA, etc

Anyone have first hand experience with eqldata.com?  They are supposed to 1) allow an existing Access application to "run", unchanged, with existing forms, reports, VBA, etc on a web browser.

bob

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#10518

On Wednesday, March 18, 2015 at 3:39:05 PM UTC-4, boba...@gmail.com wrote:
> Anyone have first hand experience with eqldata.com?  They are supposed to 1) allow an existing Access application to "run", unchanged, with existing forms, reports, VBA, etc on a web browser.
> 
> bob

Interesting.  Thanks for sharing.

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#10520

On Wed, 18 Mar 2015 13:10:21 -0700 (PDT), Patrick Finucane
<patrickfinucanetx@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wednesday, March 18, 2015 at 3:39:05 PM UTC-4, boba...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Anyone have first hand experience with eqldata.com?  They are supposed to 1) allow an existing Access application to "run", unchanged, with existing forms, reports, VBA, etc on a web browser.
>> 
>> bob
>
>Interesting.  Thanks for sharing.

Hi Patrick.  We are doing the exact thing with
http://www.remoteapphosting.net/application-hosting/

See my reply to Bob.

-paulw

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#10519

On Wed, 18 Mar 2015 12:38:58 -0700 (PDT), bobalston@gmail.com wrote:

>Anyone have first hand experience with eqldata.com?  They are supposed to 1) allow an existing Access application to "run", unchanged, with existing forms, reports, VBA, etc on a web browser.
>
>bob

We went with these guys:
http://www.remoteapphosting.net/application-hosting/

Basically setup was a piece of cake with their support people.  Not a
single problem running our Access 2010 application there and we did
not have to change a thing.  I highly recommend them.

We have a few clients now accessing their versions "in the cloud" (I
am so sick of that term).  We rent a shared server and charge the
clients per user per month.

It runs flawlessly but people need to realize that the speed of their
Internet connection is extremely important.  We had to move a client
in Alaska (?) back to our desktop version.

-paulw

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#10523

On 3/18/2015 4:04 PM, PW wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Mar 2015 12:38:58 -0700 (PDT), bobalston@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Anyone have first hand experience with eqldata.com?  They are supposed to 1) allow an existing Access application to "run", unchanged, with existing forms, reports, VBA, etc on a web browser.
>>
>> bob
>
> We went with these guys:
> http://www.remoteapphosting.net/application-hosting/
>
> Basically setup was a piece of cake with their support people.  Not a
> single problem running our Access 2010 application there and we did
> not have to change a thing.  I highly recommend them.
>
> We have a few clients now accessing their versions "in the cloud" (I
> am so sick of that term).  We rent a shared server and charge the
> clients per user per month.
>
> It runs flawlessly but people need to realize that the speed of their
> Internet connection is extremely important.  We had to move a client
> in Alaska (?) back to our desktop version.
>
> -paulw
>
So it is essentially terminal server.  Will it work from a browser on a 
tablet or android phone?

bob

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#10524

On 3/18/2015 6:37 PM, BobAlston wrote:
> On 3/18/2015 4:04 PM, PW wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 Mar 2015 12:38:58 -0700 (PDT), bobalston@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone have first hand experience with eqldata.com?  They are
>>> supposed to 1) allow an existing Access application to "run",
>>> unchanged, with existing forms, reports, VBA, etc on a web browser.
>>>
>>> bob
>>
>> We went with these guys:
>> http://www.remoteapphosting.net/application-hosting/
>>
>> Basically setup was a piece of cake with their support people.  Not a
>> single problem running our Access 2010 application there and we did
>> not have to change a thing.  I highly recommend them.
>>
>> We have a few clients now accessing their versions "in the cloud" (I
>> am so sick of that term).  We rent a shared server and charge the
>> clients per user per month.
>>
>> It runs flawlessly but people need to realize that the speed of their
>> Internet connection is extremely important.  We had to move a client
>> in Alaska (?) back to our desktop version.
>>
>> -paulw
>>
> So it is essentially terminal server.  Will it work from a browser on a
> tablet or android phone?
>
> bob
Anyone with experience setting up a terminal server and providing access 
via a browser to the server?

bob

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#10525

On 3/18/2015 7:45 PM, BobAlston wrote:
> On 3/18/2015 6:37 PM, BobAlston wrote:
>> On 3/18/2015 4:04 PM, PW wrote:
>>> On Wed, 18 Mar 2015 12:38:58 -0700 (PDT), bobalston@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Anyone have first hand experience with eqldata.com?  They are
>>>> supposed to 1) allow an existing Access application to "run",
>>>> unchanged, with existing forms, reports, VBA, etc on a web browser.
>>>>
>>>> bob
>>>
>>> We went with these guys:
>>> http://www.remoteapphosting.net/application-hosting/
>>>
>>> Basically setup was a piece of cake with their support people.  Not a
>>> single problem running our Access 2010 application there and we did
>>> not have to change a thing.  I highly recommend them.
>>>
>>> We have a few clients now accessing their versions "in the cloud" (I
>>> am so sick of that term).  We rent a shared server and charge the
>>> clients per user per month.
>>>
>>> It runs flawlessly but people need to realize that the speed of their
>>> Internet connection is extremely important.  We had to move a client
>>> in Alaska (?) back to our desktop version.
>>>
>>> -paulw
>>>
>> So it is essentially terminal server.  Will it work from a browser on a
>> tablet or android phone?
>>
>> bob
> Anyone with experience setting up a terminal server and providing access
> via a browser to the server?
>
> bob
>
I just found this link that seems to have excellent information on how 
to setup with Access.
http://www.fmsinc.com/microsoftaccess/terminal-services/remoteapp.htm

I remember seeing Albert Kallal and others tout terminal services.  Only 
now do I realize that in addition to a PC client, any device with a 
browser can be a client.  Just that the user has to be pre-setup to use 
the app.

bob

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#10527

On Wed, 18 Mar 2015 19:51:12 -0500, BobAlston <bobalston9@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On 3/18/2015 7:45 PM, BobAlston wrote:
>> On 3/18/2015 6:37 PM, BobAlston wrote:
>>> On 3/18/2015 4:04 PM, PW wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 18 Mar 2015 12:38:58 -0700 (PDT), bobalston@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Anyone have first hand experience with eqldata.com?  They are
>>>>> supposed to 1) allow an existing Access application to "run",
>>>>> unchanged, with existing forms, reports, VBA, etc on a web browser.
>>>>>
>>>>> bob
>>>>
>>>> We went with these guys:
>>>> http://www.remoteapphosting.net/application-hosting/
>>>>
>>>> Basically setup was a piece of cake with their support people.  Not a
>>>> single problem running our Access 2010 application there and we did
>>>> not have to change a thing.  I highly recommend them.
>>>>
>>>> We have a few clients now accessing their versions "in the cloud" (I
>>>> am so sick of that term).  We rent a shared server and charge the
>>>> clients per user per month.
>>>>
>>>> It runs flawlessly but people need to realize that the speed of their
>>>> Internet connection is extremely important.  We had to move a client
>>>> in Alaska (?) back to our desktop version.
>>>>
>>>> -paulw
>>>>
>>> So it is essentially terminal server.  Will it work from a browser on a
>>> tablet or android phone?
>>>
>>> bob
>> Anyone with experience setting up a terminal server and providing access
>> via a browser to the server?
>>
>> bob
>>
>I just found this link that seems to have excellent information on how 
>to setup with Access.
>http://www.fmsinc.com/microsoftaccess/terminal-services/remoteapp.htm
>
>I remember seeing Albert Kallal and others tout terminal services.  Only 
>now do I realize that in addition to a PC client, any device with a 
>browser can be a client.  Just that the user has to be pre-setup to use 
>the app.
>
>bob

What is the difference between remote desktop and terminal services?
What makes TS better?

-pw

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#10543

"PW"  wrote in message news:knekga57df7jc9jo854r5fccp9h1c64v3e@4ax.com...


>What is the difference between remote desktop and terminal services?
>What makes TS better?
>
>-pw

remote desktop or RDP (remote desktop protocol) is the "client" software 
that "connects" to terminal services. So terminal services provides the 
remote desktops that you connect to with via a remote desktop program.

So just like a web browser uses HTML, then a remote desktop system is used 
by Citrix and Terminal services. As noted, these client programs can "run" 
inside of a browser also.

As noted, you can run the remote desktop client "inside" of a web browser. 
Citrix and TS have both supported RDP in a browser via a ActiveX add-in, but 
these days OFTEN this ability of the browser is disabled for security 
reasons.

The company eqldata "client" is Adobe FLASH, which on some smart phones etc. 
is quite problematic, but as noted RDP clients quite much exist for most 
platforms and thus you really don't gain a "lot" by running such RDP clients 
"inside" of a browser. However I can say that for desktop computers, flash 
in a browser is quite common, so this could eliminate "some" deployment 
issues.

Regards,

-- 
Albert D. Kallal   (Access MVP)
Edmonton, Alberta Canada
PleaseNoSpam_kallal@msn.com

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#10526

On Wed, 18 Mar 2015 18:37:32 -0500, BobAlston <bobalston9@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On 3/18/2015 4:04 PM, PW wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 Mar 2015 12:38:58 -0700 (PDT), bobalston@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone have first hand experience with eqldata.com?  They are supposed to 1) allow an existing Access application to "run", unchanged, with existing forms, reports, VBA, etc on a web browser.
>>>
>>> bob
>>
>> We went with these guys:
>> http://www.remoteapphosting.net/application-hosting/
>>
>> Basically setup was a piece of cake with their support people.  Not a
>> single problem running our Access 2010 application there and we did
>> not have to change a thing.  I highly recommend them.
>>
>> We have a few clients now accessing their versions "in the cloud" (I
>> am so sick of that term).  We rent a shared server and charge the
>> clients per user per month.
>>
>> It runs flawlessly but people need to realize that the speed of their
>> Internet connection is extremely important.  We had to move a client
>> in Alaska (?) back to our desktop version.
>>
>> -paulw
>>
>So it is essentially terminal server.  Will it work from a browser on a 
>tablet or android phone?
>
>bob

It uses Remote Desktop.  There's an app for that ;-)

I think there is an option using a browser, but we haven't tried it. I
can't think of why we would anyone to do that.  Users click on an icon
on their desktop or device and they are using our application just
like anything on a PC or Mac.  Can't even tell it's running remotely.

-paul

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#10542

wrote in message 
news:6afcbf40-7048-494d-83c3-203200497600@googlegroups.com...

Anyone have first hand experience with eqldata.com?  They are supposed to 1) 
allow an existing Access application to "run", unchanged, with existing 
forms, reports, VBA, etc on a web browser.

bob

----

No, but there has been for over 5 years companies that offer "remote" 
desktop hosting, and some specific for Access. So the above company simply 
joins that group.


You been able to use Terminal Services and have TS run “inside” of a web 
browser for about 15 years now.

So what that company does is provide terminal services hosting.

So nothing really new here. Terminal Services has ALWAYS been a great choice 
for deploying Access applications for remote use.

The “only” new difference here is that in place of having you download + 
install the ActiveX TS client that is available for a web browser, is their 
client uses Adobe FLASH 10.

Of course the “issue” of using flash is that a good number of tablets and 
even the iPad does not support FLASH.

However most tablets (including iPad) does and did in the past have a RDP 
client that works with TS (ie: a remote desktop client that works with TS).

So is it much of a big deal to run the TS client “inside” of a web browser, 
or simply that of using a real RDP client program?

So using TS inside of a web browser is nothing new. I always stated “many” 
times that TS is one of the best choices for deploying Access applications 
for remote use. It has in the past and “remains” the #1 choice for remote 
use of Access.

And as noted we had the “choice” to deploy + use terminal services via a web 
browser for about 15 years now. (you had to run both Terminal Services + 
IIS)

I should point out that www.accesshosting.com also provides remote desktop 
hosting of Access applications.

http://accesshosting.com/remote-desktop-hosting

I suppose the requirement of having to use FLASH for the remote client will 
be a deal breaker for many, but I suppose there much debate as the past case 
of having to install an ActiveX TS client for the last 15 years was “also” a 
pain point for some.

In most cases dumping the web browser and using a RDP (ts client) program is 
preferred.


Regards,
Albert D. Kallal (Access MVP)
Edmonton, Alberta Canada

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#10547

"Albert D. Kallal" <PleaseNOSpamkallal@msn.com> wrote in message 
news:nJ_Ow.75238$yX2.21210@fx18.iad...
> wrote in message 
> news:6afcbf40-7048-494d-83c3-203200497600@googlegroups.com...
>
> Anyone have first hand experience with eqldata.com?  They are supposed to 
> 1) allow an existing Access application to "run", unchanged, with existing 
> forms, reports, VBA, etc on a web browser.
>
> bob
>
> ----
>
> No, but there has been for over 5 years companies that offer "remote" 
> desktop hosting, and some specific for Access. So the above company simply 
> joins that group.
>
>
> You been able to use Terminal Services and have TS run “inside” of a web 
> browser for about 15 years now.
>
> So what that company does is provide terminal services hosting.
>
> So nothing really new here. Terminal Services has ALWAYS been a great 
> choice for deploying Access applications for remote use.
>
> The “only” new difference here is that in place of having you download + 
> install the ActiveX TS client that is available for a web browser, is 
> their client uses Adobe FLASH 10.
>
> Of course the “issue” of using flash is that a good number of tablets and 
> even the iPad does not support FLASH.
>
> However most tablets (including iPad) does and did in the past have a RDP 
> client that works with TS (ie: a remote desktop client that works with 
> TS).
>
> So is it much of a big deal to run the TS client “inside” of a web 
> browser, or simply that of using a real RDP client program?
>
> So using TS inside of a web browser is nothing new. I always stated “many” 
> times that TS is one of the best choices for deploying Access applications 
> for remote use. It has in the past and “remains” the #1 choice for remote 
> use of Access.
>
> And as noted we had the “choice” to deploy + use terminal services via a 
> web browser for about 15 years now. (you had to run both Terminal Services 
> + IIS)
>
> I should point out that www.accesshosting.com also provides remote desktop 
> hosting of Access applications.
>
> http://accesshosting.com/remote-desktop-hosting
>
> I suppose the requirement of having to use FLASH for the remote client 
> will be a deal breaker for many, but I suppose there much debate as the 
> past case of having to install an ActiveX TS client for the last 15 years 
> was “also” a pain point for some.
>
> In most cases dumping the web browser and using a RDP (ts client) program 
> is preferred.
>
>
> Regards,
> Albert D. Kallal (Access MVP)
> Edmonton, Alberta Canada
>
There are free RDP clients for tables that work well. 

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