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Re: Borders

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From	Helpful Harry <HelpfulHarry@BusyWorking.com>
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Subject	Re: Borders
Date	Tue, 28 Apr 2015 18:38:27 +1200
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In article <1m3k7qq.14c1rdo13vo09wN%csampson@inetworld.net>, Charles H.
Sampson <csampson@inetworld.net> wrote:
> Helpful Harry <HelpfulHarry@BusyWorking.com> wrote:
> > In article <1m3g6lv.10ue4iznysxglN%csampson@inetworld.net>, Charles H.
> > Sampson <csampson@inetworld.net> wrote:
> > > 
> > > What's the trick with borders? I've got layouts that I created with
> > > borders around fields uneventfully. I've also got a couple where there
> > > are fields -- somtimes only some fields -- that have no border and I'm
> > > unable to put a border around them. I'm looking at one right now where
> > > four of the five fields have borders around them. I go to layout mode,
> > > select the field, go to Format -> Field/Control -> Borders and all four
> > > border boxes -- Top, Bottom, Left, Right -- are checked. The pull-down
> > > list is on Borders. Going back to Browse and there are no borders. I
> > > even tried unchecking the four boxes (I'm an experienced programmer and
> > > I know lots of ways a program can get go wring while running,), No
> > > change.
> > > 
> > > ???
> > 
> > Check that the border colour is not set to transparent or white (or
> > whatever the background colour of your layout is).
> > 
> > Also before you go to the Borders window, make sure you've selected the
> > appropriate field(s) you want to format. Changing the options with no
> > field(s) selected will set the default for any new fields added to the
> > Layout, but it won't change fields already on the Layout.
> 
> To the rescue once again, Harry. The default settings were to use white
> lines. Better said, they were to use white non-lines, because the
> default setting for line thickness was "no line". I must have changed
> the defaults by accident while I was fumbling around. I'm up and running
> on this count.

Sorry, line thickness is another one I forgot to mention to check.




> I can't pass up this opportunity to grouse about another bit of
> FileMaker's user unfriendliness. I select an object, I navigate into the
> dialogue to set the borders of that object, I check boxes that seem to
> indicate that I want borders on all four sides, and FM says, "Got it. Of
> course you want white lines on a white background, except that you
> really don't want lines at all." Really? At the least, I'd expect a
> warning about setting borders to "no line". The white-on-white might be
> a bit trickier to detect and warn about.

That's not really a FileMaker issue. The same happens in many other
applications - Word, Excel, PowerPoint, InDesign, Clarisworks, Numbers,
Pages, Keynote, ...

The applications also can't really understand what you're doing. You
might want to have a white background and set a field border to white,
because you're then going to move it onto or draw behind it a rectangle
filled with a different colour. Or maybe the field is sitting half on a
black rectangle and half on a white background, so how does the
application decided whether white or black borders are "wrong"?

Line thickness of "No Line" (or in some applications "0") is a rather 
silly option ... although it does mean lazy people can simply set the
line thickness to "no line" instead of actually turning off the four
border options or setting the colour to transparent / no colour.


Helpful Harry  :o)

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Borders csampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) - 2015-04-25 18:54 -0700
  Re: Borders Helpful Harry <HelpfulHarry@BusyWorking.com> - 2015-04-26 14:00 +1200
    Re: Borders csampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) - 2015-04-27 23:06 -0700
      Re: Borders Helpful Harry <HelpfulHarry@BusyWorking.com> - 2015-04-28 18:38 +1200
  Re: Borders csampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) - 2015-05-08 12:50 -0700
    Re: Borders Helpful Harry <HelpfulHarry@BusyWorking.com> - 2015-05-09 09:58 +1200
      Re: Borders Thibaud Taudin Chabot <tchabot@hccnet.nl> - 2015-05-09 07:38 +0200

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