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Re: Near Infinite Data Compression - Myth? or Fact!

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  Re: Near Infinite Data Compression - Myth? or Fact! einseele@gmail.com - 2017-05-02 11:57 -0700
    Re: Near Infinite Data Compression - Myth? or Fact! rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 11:47 -0400
      Re: Near Infinite Data Compression - Myth? or Fact! Gerald Tamayo <compgt@gmail.com> - 2018-08-06 23:48 -0700

#3588 — Re: Near Infinite Data Compression - Myth? or Fact!

Fromeinseele@gmail.com
Date2017-05-02 11:57 -0700
SubjectRe: Near Infinite Data Compression - Myth? or Fact!
Message-ID<1eb077b5-1c68-4fe2-ad4a-403959394749@googlegroups.com>
I wish this forum is still alive :-)
The limit of compression is the mass, that is a law of physics. It is said that information has mass, bits, bytes....indeed represent mass, then there is not such a thing like infinite compression. But, having said that the error is to consider information like having a mass. What we are used to compress is not information, but a mass for whcih we assign meaning/information.
I believe and I can demonstrate that no matter how "big" is the supposed data volume, that is in the end a number: 100011100001111111100001111...... 
That number is not he information but a pointer, an address. As far as you are able to represent that specific address, then you are able to recover the complete information. Is there any one there

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#3594

Fromrickman <gnuarm@gmail.com>
Date2017-05-10 11:47 -0400
Message-ID<oevcgi$9hi$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#3588
On 5/2/2017 2:57 PM, einseele@gmail.com wrote:
> I wish this forum is still alive :-)
> The limit of compression is the mass, that is a law of physics. It is said that information has mass, bits, bytes....indeed represent mass, then there is not such a thing like infinite compression. But, having said that the error is to consider information like having a mass. What we are used to compress is not information, but a mass for whcih we assign meaning/information.
> I believe and I can demonstrate that no matter how "big" is the supposed data volume, that is in the end a number: 100011100001111111100001111......
> That number is not he information but a pointer, an address. As far as you are able to represent that specific address, then you are able to recover the complete information. Is there any one there

Data is mass.  Mass is contained in particles.  Particles have 
orthogonal properties.  Orthogonal properties are data.  Data is mass...

-- 

Rick C

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#3755

FromGerald Tamayo <compgt@gmail.com>
Date2018-08-06 23:48 -0700
Message-ID<bd5b396a-3427-4a54-a1bf-0a3159608aaf@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#3594
On Wednesday, May 10, 2017 at 11:47:38 PM UTC+8, rickman wrote:
> On 5/2/2017 2:57 PM, einseele@gmail.com wrote:
> > I wish this forum is still alive :-)
> > The limit of compression is the mass, that is a law of physics. It is said that information has mass, bits, bytes....indeed represent mass, then there is not such a thing like infinite compression. But, having said that the error is to consider information like having a mass. What we are used to compress is not information, but a mass for whcih we assign meaning/information.
> > I believe and I can demonstrate that no matter how "big" is the supposed data volume, that is in the end a number: 100011100001111111100001111......
> > That number is not he information but a pointer, an address. As far as you are able to represent that specific address, then you are able to recover the complete information. Is there any one there
> 
> Data is mass.  Mass is contained in particles.  Particles have 
> orthogonal properties.  Orthogonal properties are data.  Data is mass...
> 
> -- 
> 
> Rick C

"Particle" or "wave" designs. 

Particle designs are symbol-based coding like Huffman, string-based LZ, etc. Wave designs are BWT, etc. ?

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