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Re: about the "Adam's platform"

From "Zhu Qun-Ying" <zhu.qunying@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.compression
Subject Re: about the "Adam's platform"
Date 2012-01-10 17:36 -0800
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Is this jules Gilber a real person?  Why the content give me the  
impression that they are generated by a AI program?


On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 02:27:19 -0800, jules Gilbert <jules.stocks@gmail.com>  
wrote:

> On Jan 4, 11:31 am, Jim Leonard <mobyga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Jan 4, 3:31 am, jules Gilbert <jules.sto...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> > However, wiser? minds than I have told me that technology today is
>> > such that what I propose is easily faked, thus my interest in "Adam's
>> > Platform."
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>> Any demonstration limited to your own hardware can be faked in any
>> number of ways.  Setting up lots of camera angles means absolutely
>> nothing, and demonstrates nothing.  Do not waste your time.
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>> Adam's Platform's testing was mishandled so thoroughly by The Tolly
>> Group that when they realized they'd been deceived, they set up the
>> test again, found it was bunk, and pulled the original report from
>> their website.  Tolly didn't bother to verify the contents of the the
>> hard drives of both computers the first time.  When the method came
>> into question, they set the test up again and pulled the data
>> connection between the two computers while transmission was in
>> progress.  The destination computer continued to decompress and show
>> video, proving that there was no actual compression/decompression
>> process occurring.  Adding insult to injury, when they did find the
>> fake video already on the destination computer, it turned out to be
>> compressed with a very common codec at the time for Mac (an On2
>> TrueMotion variant).  So the method wasn't even original.  Nearly a
>> decade later, after Adam had already been sent to jail and investors
>> defrauded, Adam put up a weak technical document on a website saying
>> "see? I told you so, here's the method" which turned out to be a
>> single sheet of paper's scrawlings that described a method no more
>> complex than a colorspace conversion with deltas -- in other words, a
>> 1990's method that is not even remotely capable of the wild claims he
>> maintained for years.
>>
>> If you show us video of you doing something with two computers and a
>> floppy disk, it means nothing.  If you open both computers and show
>> that neither has a hard drive, it still means nothing -- YOU are
>> performing the demonstration and could be faking the results in tens
>> if not hundreds of different ways.  You must have OTHERS reproduce
>> your results to receive any sort of funding.
>>
>> Accept a chunk of data from a third party.  Compress that data (if you
>> can).  Then provide the compressed data only (to prove your method
>> reduces size), and a program that can turn it back into the original
>> chunk (to prove that your method isn't broken or a fake).  *This does
>> not compromise your compression process.*
>>
>> Until you're willing to do this, you're wasting your time (and,
>> unfortunately, everyone else's time).  No serious company is going to
>> be interested in an idea that can't be independently verified.
>> Maintaining full control of any demonstration just further paints you
>> as a Jan Sloot fraud, or delusional, or a blatant confidence trickster.
>
> I wrote a response but want to think about it for a day or so.
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> I just want to be sure I want to say what I was preparing to say...
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> So, nothing more today.
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> Speaking of the day, where I am it will soon be daylight, another day
> for us to love our wives, another day for us to ponder the secrets of
> our universe (because God gave it to us!,) and, most of all, another
> day for us to know God, to talk with him, to ask him a favor or two;
> 'Hello God, it's me, how about a few."
>
> I hope people are reading the Bible, because, you know, that verse in
> Matthew, MAT; 24:7, the second part of the verse.  That's happening
> now, we're living in it.  Today.  Look around, just try to count the
> number of major earthquakes, for the incidence of major quakes has
> increased at least 600 times, (that's easily provable, though the
> actual increase is probably closer to a thousand.)   In fact the
> increase is so much that in violation of US law the USGS has stopped
> distributing the relevant data.
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> Now I know most people won't like me saying these things.  Too bad.
> When this began, I noticed that the nay-sayer's (at least the one's
> who seemed the most vocal,) were mostly gays and atheists.
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> (I used to be an atheist.  And let me tell you, I am so glad that I
> was willing to change -- because God actually is sooo goood!)
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> Jim, in the next few days I'll have a response, I just need to
> consider what I say more carefully than I can writing casually.
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> About reading the Bible, I am well aware that we Christians are
> supposed to forgive our enemies.
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about the "Adam's platform" jules Gilbert <jules.stocks@gmail.com> - 2012-01-04 01:31 -0800
  Re: about the "Adam's platform" Jim Leonard <mobygamer@gmail.com> - 2012-01-04 08:31 -0800
    Re: about the "Adam's platform" Thomas Richter <thor@math.tu-berlin.de> - 2012-01-05 01:48 +0100
      Re: about the "Adam's platform" Earl_Colby_Pottinger <earlcolby.pottinger@sympatico.ca> - 2012-01-04 17:56 -0800
      Re: about the "Adam's platform" Jim Leonard <mobygamer@gmail.com> - 2012-01-06 13:56 -0800
        Re: about the "Adam's platform" Alex Mizrahi <alex.mizrahi@gmail.com> - 2012-01-07 11:05 +0200
    Re: about the "Adam's platform" jules Gilbert <jules.stocks@gmail.com> - 2012-01-05 02:27 -0800
      Re: about the "Adam's platform" Earl_Colby_Pottinger <earlcolby.pottinger@sympatico.ca> - 2012-01-06 09:49 -0800
      Re: about the "Adam's platform" Jim Leonard <mobygamer@gmail.com> - 2012-01-06 14:04 -0800
        Re: about the "Adam's platform" Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2012-01-07 14:28 -0600
          Re: about the "Adam's platform" Michael <michaelhh@gmail.com> - 2012-01-07 17:23 -0800
      Re: about the "Adam's platform" "Zhu Qun-Ying" <zhu.qunying@gmail.com> - 2012-01-10 17:36 -0800
        Re: about the "Adam's platform" Earl_Colby_Pottinger <earlcolby.pottinger@sympatico.ca> - 2012-01-10 21:18 -0800
        Re: about the "Adam's platform" jules Gilbert <jules.stocks@gmail.com> - 2012-01-27 21:42 -0800

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