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Re: Compiler optimization and floating point operations

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On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 13:47:10 -0700 (PDT), Abid <abidmuslim@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Does back end compiler optimizations affect the floating point
>accuracy?

As John said, the answer is "sometimes".

FP hardware registers usually are wider than are the compiler's memory
storage formats (most often 32 and 64 bit IEEE).  The registers
typically carry a few to several extra bits of precision which are
lost when the value is stored to memory and then reloaded.

For maximum precision you want to keep intermediate values in
registers as much as possible, minimizing stores to and reloads from
memory.

For maximum consistency of results - across compiler modes or
different FPUs - you generally must do the opposite: aggressively
store and reload intermediate results before using them.  [On many
machines, clipping intermediate values can be done by moving them to
and from an integer register without actually going all the way to
memory. But however it is done, it slows the calculation.]

Floating point operations, in general, are not commutative: changing
the order of evaluation of sub-expressions can change the results.

Substitutions using mathematical equivalences can change the results
because floating point numbers are only an approximation of real
numbers - many real equivalences don't hold for FP math.

Using different FPUs may yield different results.  From the back end
POV this is important if there are multiple different hardware units
to choose from.  E.g., on the x86, the x87 FPU and the SIMD FPU have
different register widths and some corresponding instructions round
results differently.  It is safe to do unrelated calculations on
either unit, but you have to be extremely careful about using both to
work on different parts of the same calculation.


>Is there any research work in this area?

There has been quite a lot of work aimed at improving FP in the middle
(in the IR), but I'm not aware of any research specifically targeting
the back end.

George
[I think you mean they're not associative.  I don't know any situations
where a+b != b+a, but lots where a+(b+c) != (a+b)+c -John]

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Compiler optimization and floating point operations Abid <abidmuslim@gmail.com> - 2013-10-23 13:47 -0700
  Re: Compiler optimization and floating point operations Cameron McInally <cameron.mcinally@nyu.edu> - 2013-10-23 22:55 -0400
  Re: Compiler optimization and floating point operations glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2013-10-24 02:56 +0000
  Re: Compiler optimization and floating point operations George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2013-10-24 07:41 -0400
    Re: Compiler optimization and floating point operations Jean-Marc Bourguet <jm@bourguet.org> - 2013-10-24 15:51 +0200
    Re: Compiler optimization and floating point operations "Steven G. Kargl" <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> - 2013-10-24 16:38 +0000
      Re: Compiler optimization and floating point operations christian.bau@cbau.wanadoo.co.uk - 2013-10-28 15:54 -0700
    Re: Compiler optimization and floating point operations George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2013-10-24 15:51 -0400
    Re: Compiler optimization and floating point operations glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2013-10-24 20:21 +0000
    Re: Compiler optimization and floating point operations christian.bau@cbau.wanadoo.co.uk - 2013-10-28 15:50 -0700
      Re: Compiler optimization and floating point operations Cameron McInally <cameron.mcinally@nyu.edu> - 2013-10-28 20:41 -0400

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