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| Started by | Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> |
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| First post | 2011-08-23 10:48 -0700 |
| Last post | 2011-08-29 09:18 -0700 |
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Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2011-08-23 10:48 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-08-23 16:24 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Terje Mathisen <"terje.mathisen at tmsw.no"> - 2011-08-24 07:20 +0200
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-08-23 23:22 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2011-08-24 14:38 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2011-08-25 17:42 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2011-08-27 09:45 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2011-08-27 18:03 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Brett Davis <ggtgp@yahoo.com> - 2011-08-26 20:31 -0500
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-08-26 20:08 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2011-08-27 02:35 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Brett Davis <ggtgp@yahoo.com> - 2011-08-27 15:27 -0500
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2011-08-27 13:41 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Brett Davis <ggtgp@yahoo.com> - 2011-08-27 17:34 -0500
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2011-08-27 17:40 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2011-08-27 17:50 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2011-08-28 23:49 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-08-27 22:40 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! "Andy \"Krazy\" Glew" <andy@SPAM.comp-arch.net> - 2011-08-28 19:33 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Terje Mathisen <"terje.mathisen at tmsw.no"> - 2011-08-29 13:56 +0200
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! "Andy \"Krazy\" Glew" <andy@SPAM.comp-arch.net> - 2011-08-29 09:07 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! nmm1@cam.ac.uk - 2011-08-29 17:56 +0100
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! "Andy \"Krazy\" Glew" <andy@SPAM.comp-arch.net> - 2011-08-29 11:56 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Peter Flass <Peter_Flass@Yahoo.com> - 2011-08-29 16:12 -0400
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! nmm1@cam.ac.uk - 2011-08-29 20:46 +0100
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Kalle Olavi Niemitalo <kon@iki.fi> - 2011-08-30 07:48 +0300
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! nmm1@cam.ac.uk - 2011-08-30 08:22 +0100
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-08-31 11:34 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! "Andy \"Krazy\" Glew" <andy@SPAM.comp-arch.net> - 2011-08-29 22:22 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Andrew Reilly <areilly---@bigpond.net.au> - 2011-08-30 11:17 +0000
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! nmm1@cam.ac.uk - 2011-08-30 12:35 +0100
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2011-08-30 07:02 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! nmm1@cam.ac.uk - 2011-08-30 15:18 +0100
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2011-08-30 15:12 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! nmm1@cam.ac.uk - 2011-08-31 08:30 +0100
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2011-09-01 09:54 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2011-09-01 10:09 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! nmm1@cam.ac.uk - 2011-09-01 18:01 +0100
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2011-09-01 12:25 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! sidd <sidd@situ.com> - 2011-09-01 20:02 -0400
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Elliott Roper <nospam@yrl.co.uk> - 2011-09-02 10:27 +0100
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! nmm1@cam.ac.uk - 2011-09-02 11:33 +0100
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2011-09-02 08:09 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2011-09-02 08:12 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! nmm1@cam.ac.uk - 2011-09-02 15:50 +0100
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2011-09-02 08:49 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! nmm1@cam.ac.uk - 2011-09-02 17:00 +0100
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2011-09-02 15:55 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2011-09-03 18:06 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2011-09-02 07:58 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! nmm1@cam.ac.uk - 2011-09-02 15:56 +0100
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2011-09-02 07:42 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Andreas Eder <andreas_eder@gmx.net> - 2011-09-02 17:51 +0200
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! sidd <sidd@situ.com> - 2011-08-31 12:11 -0400
Complex Number Representation nmm1@cam.ac.uk - 2011-09-02 21:22 +0100
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! "Andy \"Krazy\" Glew" <andy@SPAM.comp-arch.net> - 2011-08-30 07:08 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Terje Mathisen <"terje.mathisen at tmsw.no"> - 2011-08-31 10:39 +0200
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! "Andy \"Krazy\" Glew" <andy@SPAM.comp-arch.net> - 2011-08-31 08:00 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Terje Mathisen <"terje.mathisen at tmsw.no"> - 2011-08-31 18:38 +0200
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Peter Flass <Peter_Flass@Yahoo.com> - 2011-08-31 13:18 -0400
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! "Andy \"Krazy\" Glew" <andy@SPAM.comp-arch.net> - 2011-08-31 19:09 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Brett Davis <ggtgp@yahoo.com> - 2011-08-30 00:19 -0500
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Brett Davis <ggtgp@yahoo.com> - 2011-08-31 23:46 -0500
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-08-31 09:56 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Terje Mathisen <"terje.mathisen at tmsw.no"> - 2011-09-01 08:23 +0200
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-08-31 14:02 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2011-09-01 04:02 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Terje Mathisen <"terje.mathisen at tmsw.no"> - 2011-09-01 19:42 +0200
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-08-31 23:20 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! "James Van Buskirk" <not_valid@comcast.net> - 2011-09-12 15:53 -0600
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! nmm1@cam.ac.uk - 2011-09-12 22:31 +0100
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! nmm1@cam.ac.uk - 2011-09-12 22:56 +0100
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2011-09-12 21:00 -0400
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! nmm1@cam.ac.uk - 2011-09-13 10:10 +0100
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Terje Mathisen <"terje.mathisen at tmsw.no"> - 2011-09-13 04:58 +0200
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Peter Flass <Peter_Flass@Yahoo.com> - 2011-09-01 07:25 -0400
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Tim Shoppa <shoppa@trailing-edge.com> - 2011-09-01 10:37 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! nmm1@cam.ac.uk - 2011-09-01 18:25 +0100
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Bill Findlay <yaldnif.w@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2011-09-01 19:56 +0100
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2011-09-01 12:30 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2011-09-01 12:38 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Peter Flass <Peter_Flass@Yahoo.com> - 2011-09-01 17:13 -0400
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Patrick Scheible <kkt@zipcon.net> - 2011-09-01 14:48 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! nmm1@cam.ac.uk - 2011-09-01 22:49 +0100
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2011-09-01 18:08 -0500
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! "Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2011-09-02 00:26 -0800
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! "Andy \"Krazy\" Glew" <andy@SPAM.comp-arch.net> - 2011-09-02 05:06 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2011-09-02 10:46 -0500
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Stephen Fuld <SFuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2011-09-02 12:08 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Patrick Scheible <kkt@zipcon.net> - 2011-09-02 13:54 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2011-09-03 14:57 +0000
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! nmm1@cam.ac.uk - 2011-09-03 15:33 +0100
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2011-09-03 13:42 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2011-09-04 08:46 +1000
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2011-09-04 08:05 +0100
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2011-09-04 17:44 +1000
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2011-09-04 08:56 +0100
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2011-09-04 18:52 +1000
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2011-09-04 08:55 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! nmm1@cam.ac.uk - 2011-09-04 16:46 +0100
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2011-09-04 13:21 +0000
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! nmm1@cam.ac.uk - 2011-09-04 14:03 +0100
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Peter Flass <Peter_Flass@Yahoo.com> - 2011-09-04 14:15 -0400
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! nmm1@cam.ac.uk - 2011-09-04 18:52 +0100
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Peter Flass <Peter_Flass@Yahoo.com> - 2011-09-04 15:00 -0400
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! nmm1@cam.ac.uk - 2011-09-04 21:02 +0100
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Peter Flass <Peter_Flass@Yahoo.com> - 2011-09-04 19:22 -0400
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! nmm1@cam.ac.uk - 2011-09-05 07:09 +0100
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2011-09-05 04:48 +1000
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2011-09-04 20:18 -0400
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2011-09-04 03:53 +1000
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2011-09-04 13:21 +0000
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2011-09-05 03:57 +1000
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2011-09-04 08:47 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2011-09-05 04:03 +1000
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Peter Flass <Peter_Flass@Yahoo.com> - 2011-09-04 14:30 -0400
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2011-09-05 04:49 +1000
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2011-09-04 15:53 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2011-09-05 09:55 +1000
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Piotr Wyderski <peter.pan@neverland.mil> - 2011-10-19 19:17 +0200
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2011-09-04 19:54 +0100
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! nmm1@cam.ac.uk - 2011-09-04 20:56 +0100
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Peter Flass <Peter_Flass@Yahoo.com> - 2011-09-04 19:16 -0400
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2011-09-04 16:26 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Morten Reistad <first@last.name> - 2011-09-05 13:45 +0200
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Bakul Shah <usenet@bitblocks.com> - 2011-09-05 12:09 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! nmm1@cam.ac.uk - 2011-09-05 20:51 +0100
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Morten Reistad <first@last.name> - 2011-09-06 10:57 +0200
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2011-09-06 19:43 +1000
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Morten Reistad <first@last.name> - 2011-09-06 10:55 +0200
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2011-09-06 11:36 +0100
OT English Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! wclodius@lost-alamos.pet (William Clodius) - 2011-09-05 13:33 -0600
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Patrick Scheible <kkt@zipcon.net> - 2011-09-05 23:12 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! "Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2011-09-07 09:44 -0800
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2011-09-03 13:41 -0500
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2011-09-03 21:36 +0000
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2011-09-03 20:18 -0500
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Peter Flass <Peter_Flass@Yahoo.com> - 2011-09-04 08:31 -0400
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! nmm1@cam.ac.uk - 2011-09-04 13:11 +0100
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2011-09-05 17:14 +0000
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! blmblm@myrealbox.com <blmblm.myrealbox@gmail.com> - 2011-09-07 09:07 +0000
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2011-09-07 12:15 +0100
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2011-09-07 08:37 -0400
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2011-09-07 13:50 +0100
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2011-09-07 09:21 -0400
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Bernd Felsche <berfel@innovative.iinet.net.au> - 2011-09-08 08:42 +0800
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2011-09-08 14:10 +0000
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2011-09-08 19:09 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Patrick Scheible <kkt@zipcon.net> - 2011-09-05 22:50 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2011-09-06 13:45 +0000
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Patrick Scheible <kkt@zipcon.net> - 2011-09-06 09:08 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2011-09-07 14:13 +0000
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Patrick Scheible <kkt@zipcon.net> - 2011-09-07 09:42 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Bernd Felsche <berfel@innovative.iinet.net.au> - 2011-09-08 09:05 +0800
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2011-09-08 14:10 +0000
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2011-09-08 04:49 +1000
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2011-09-08 14:09 +0000
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2011-09-09 03:17 +1000
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2011-09-10 23:07 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2011-09-11 09:06 +0100
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! nmm1@cam.ac.uk - 2011-09-11 10:07 +0100
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2011-09-11 06:48 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Peter Flass <Peter_Flass@Yahoo.com> - 2011-09-11 08:26 -0400
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! nmm1@cam.ac.uk - 2011-09-11 13:00 +0100
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Patrick Scheible <kkt@zipcon.net> - 2011-09-11 07:36 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Piotr Wyderski <peter.pan@neverland.mil> - 2011-10-19 19:15 +0200
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Patrick Scheible <kkt@zipcon.net> - 2011-10-19 14:45 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! "Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2011-10-19 17:13 -0800
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2011-10-20 13:38 +0000
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! blmblm@myrealbox.com <blmblm.myrealbox@gmail.com> - 2011-10-27 09:01 +0000
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Peter Flass <Peter_Flass@Yahoo.com> - 2011-09-02 20:41 -0400
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2011-09-03 06:58 +0100
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! nmm1@cam.ac.uk - 2011-09-03 07:19 +0100
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Bakul Shah <usenet@bitblocks.com> - 2011-09-02 21:54 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Stephen Fuld <SFuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2011-09-03 09:05 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! nmm1@cam.ac.uk - 2011-09-03 16:42 +0100
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2011-09-03 21:00 +0000
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Bakul Shah <usenet@bitblocks.com> - 2011-09-03 11:01 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! nmm1@cam.ac.uk - 2011-09-03 19:18 +0100
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Bakul Shah <usenet@bitblocks.com> - 2011-09-03 13:05 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! nmm1@cam.ac.uk - 2011-09-04 08:09 +0100
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2011-09-03 21:34 +0000
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Jean-Marc Bourguet <jm@bourguet.org> - 2011-09-04 22:15 +0200
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! nmm1@cam.ac.uk - 2011-09-04 21:07 +0100
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Peter Flass <Peter_Flass@Yahoo.com> - 2011-09-02 20:21 -0400
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Tim Shoppa <shoppa@trailing-edge.com> - 2011-09-06 09:32 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! blmblm@myrealbox.com <blmblm.myrealbox@gmail.com> - 2011-09-07 09:09 +0000
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2011-09-07 07:17 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2011-09-07 16:00 +0100
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Bill Findlay <yaldnif.w@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2011-09-07 16:40 +0100
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2011-09-07 09:57 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Patrick Scheible <kkt@zipcon.net> - 2011-09-07 09:39 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Morten Reistad <first@last.name> - 2011-09-07 20:47 +0200
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2011-09-08 14:09 +0000
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Stephen Fuld <SFuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2011-09-08 09:13 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Morten Reistad <first@last.name> - 2011-09-08 18:59 +0200
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2011-09-09 15:21 +0000
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2011-09-09 12:48 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2011-09-10 06:27 +1000
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Morten Reistad <first@last.name> - 2011-09-09 23:04 +0200
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Bernd Felsche <berfel@innovative.iinet.net.au> - 2011-09-08 08:57 +0800
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2011-09-08 14:10 +0000
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! "Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2011-09-08 07:50 -0800
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2011-09-08 12:07 -0400
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2011-09-08 12:10 -0400
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2011-09-08 17:38 +0100
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Seebs <usenet-nospam@seebs.net> - 2011-09-09 03:43 +0000
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2011-09-08 12:21 -0500
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Peter Flass <Peter_Flass@Yahoo.com> - 2011-09-01 17:09 -0400
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2011-09-02 08:59 +1000
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! blmblm@myrealbox.com <blmblm.myrealbox@gmail.com> - 2011-09-07 09:07 +0000
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2011-09-07 20:03 +1000
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! blmblm@myrealbox.com <blmblm.myrealbox@gmail.com> - 2011-09-08 16:55 +0000
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2011-09-09 03:52 +1000
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! blmblm@myrealbox.com <blmblm.myrealbox@gmail.com> - 2011-10-01 15:57 +0000
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2011-10-02 05:51 +1100
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! blmblm@myrealbox.com <blmblm.myrealbox@gmail.com> - 2011-10-07 11:31 +0000
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Morten Reistad <first@last.name> - 2011-09-07 14:08 +0200
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2011-09-07 14:18 +0100
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2011-09-07 14:05 +0000
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Morten Reistad <first@last.name> - 2011-09-07 20:54 +0200
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2011-09-08 05:27 +1000
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! timcaffrey@aol.com (Tim McCaffrey) - 2011-09-16 18:48 +0000
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! sidd <sidd@situ.com> - 2011-09-07 18:53 -0400
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2011-09-08 04:37 +1000
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Terje Mathisen <"terje.mathisen at tmsw.no"> - 2011-09-08 10:19 +0200
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! kenney@cix.compulink.co.uk - 2011-09-08 05:14 -0500
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2011-09-11 12:58 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2011-09-12 10:01 +0100
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2011-09-12 19:35 +1000
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Patrick Scheible <kkt@zipcon.net> - 2011-09-12 09:25 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2011-09-12 13:27 -0400
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Ben Pfaff <blp@cs.stanford.edu> - 2011-09-12 10:41 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Patrick Scheible <kkt@zipcon.net> - 2011-09-12 11:34 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2011-09-13 05:40 +1000
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2011-09-12 15:53 -0400
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2011-09-12 13:08 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2011-09-08 04:14 +1000
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2011-09-07 11:31 -0700
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2011-09-08 05:35 +1000
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Bernd Felsche <berfel@innovative.iinet.net.au> - 2011-09-08 08:40 +0800
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Terje Mathisen <"terje.mathisen at tmsw.no"> - 2011-09-07 20:25 +0200
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! blmblm@myrealbox.com <blmblm.myrealbox@gmail.com> - 2011-09-08 16:58 +0000
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2011-09-08 12:31 -0500
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Terje Mathisen <"terje.mathisen at tmsw.no"> - 2011-08-30 13:46 +0200
Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2011-08-29 09:18 -0700
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| From | Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> |
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| Date | 2011-09-04 19:54 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <20110904195417.0503010e.steveo@eircom.net> |
| In reply to | #3449 |
On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 14:30:24 -0400 Peter Flass <Peter_Flass@Yahoo.com> wrote: > By gosh, you're right. I had to check this and the population of Europe > minus UK and Ireland is given at about 766 million. The US, Ca, AU, NZ > and the UK and Ire are about 433 million if I've got all the numbers > right. However the situation is complicated by not all of Canada speaking English (the French bit) and not all of Ireland speaking English (the Gaeltacht), some of South Africa, The Philippines, Jamaica (and quite few other countries but the numbers start to get small) speaking English as a first language. The complications don't make enough difference to matter though. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays C:>WIN | A better way to focus the sun The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/
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| From | nmm1@cam.ac.uk |
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| Date | 2011-09-04 20:56 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <j40l68$afv$1@gosset.csi.cam.ac.uk> |
| In reply to | #3449 |
In article <j40g3s$dhg$1@dont-email.me>, Peter Flass <Peter_Flass@Yahoo.com> wrote: >On 9/4/2011 11:47 AM, Quadibloc wrote: >> On Sep 3, 11:53 am, "Rod Speed"<rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> The non european form, mainly because the europeans are in the minority world wide. >> >> Huh? English speakers are in a smaller minority than Europeans. > >By gosh, you're right. I had to check this and the population of Europe >minus UK and Ireland is given at about 766 million. The US, Ca, AU, NZ >and the UK and Ire are about 433 million if I've got all the numbers right. There are a lot of other places where English is used as a first language by a small number of people, and as their primary 'work' language by a much larger number. India, for example. Regards, Nick Maclaren.
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| From | Peter Flass <Peter_Flass@Yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2011-09-04 19:16 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <j410tb$o0$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #3455 |
On 9/4/2011 3:56 PM, nmm1@cam.ac.uk wrote: > In article<j40g3s$dhg$1@dont-email.me>, > Peter Flass<Peter_Flass@Yahoo.com> wrote: >> On 9/4/2011 11:47 AM, Quadibloc wrote: >>> On Sep 3, 11:53 am, "Rod Speed"<rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> The non european form, mainly because the europeans are in the minority world wide. >>> >>> Huh? English speakers are in a smaller minority than Europeans. >> >> By gosh, you're right. I had to check this and the population of Europe >> minus UK and Ireland is given at about 766 million. The US, Ca, AU, NZ >> and the UK and Ire are about 433 million if I've got all the numbers right. > > There are a lot of other places where English is used as a first > language by a small number of people, and as their primary 'work' > language by a much larger number. India, for example. > And of course "European" isn't one of your language choices. I don't think English is the world's most widely-used language. Certainly it comes after Mandarin, and maybe Hindi. However, at the risk of being chauvinistic, English is spoken, or at least understood, by more of the people who matter in the world than any other language.
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| From | Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> |
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| Date | 2011-09-04 16:26 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <c7f13497-ce0a-42c6-86a0-fd9c28e736a6@o26g2000vbi.googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #3459 |
On Sep 4, 5:16 pm, Peter Flass <Peter_Fl...@Yahoo.com> wrote: > However, at the risk of being > chauvinistic, English is spoken, or at least understood, by more of the > people who matter in the world than any other language. True enough, but native speakers of English are in the minority of the "people who matter", if one means voting citizens of democratic industrialized nations. In fact, if we exclude China and India in this fashion, we get a majority of comma users instead of point users. Does it make a difference that the comma users are divided between speakers of Russian, German, French, Italian, Finnish, Greek, Hungarian, Polish, Dutch, Swedish... and so on? Of course, the decimal point is still used in Japan, Taiwan, and South Korea... maybe this is enough to tip the balance. John Savard
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| From | Morten Reistad <first@last.name> |
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| Date | 2011-09-05 13:45 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <4e64d26f$1@news.broadpark.no> |
| In reply to | #3459 |
In article <j410tb$o0$1@dont-email.me>, Peter Flass <Peter_Flass@Yahoo.com> wrote: >On 9/4/2011 3:56 PM, nmm1@cam.ac.uk wrote: >> In article<j40g3s$dhg$1@dont-email.me>, >> Peter Flass<Peter_Flass@Yahoo.com> wrote: >>> On 9/4/2011 11:47 AM, Quadibloc wrote: >>>> On Sep 3, 11:53 am, "Rod Speed"<rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> The non european form, mainly because the europeans are in the minority world wide. >>>> >>>> Huh? English speakers are in a smaller minority than Europeans. >>> >>> By gosh, you're right. I had to check this and the population of Europe >>> minus UK and Ireland is given at about 766 million. The US, Ca, AU, NZ >>> and the UK and Ire are about 433 million if I've got all the numbers right. >> >> There are a lot of other places where English is used as a first >> language by a small number of people, and as their primary 'work' >> language by a much larger number. India, for example. There are more English-speakers in India than in any other country in the world. India is one of the nations where English is used locally to communicate between a plethora of langauges. Other, large such nations are the Phillipines, Papua new Guinea, Nigeria, South Africa, Kenya, Uganda, Tanzania, the Sudans. We may even include the EU as such a place. http://www.andaman.org/BOOK/reprints/weber/rep-weber.htm English usage is exploding in the third world; and has become by far the most important language for international communications. >And of course "European" isn't one of your language choices. I don't >think English is the world's most widely-used language. Certainly it >comes after Mandarin, and maybe Hindi. However, at the risk of being >chauvinistic, English is spoken, or at least understood, by more of the >people who matter in the world than any other language. Users now outnumber the native speakers more than 5:1. -- mrr
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| From | Bakul Shah <usenet@bitblocks.com> |
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| Date | 2011-09-05 12:09 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <4E651E4E.5000405@bitblocks.com> |
| In reply to | #3470 |
On 9/5/11 4:45 AM, Morten Reistad wrote: > > There are more English-speakers in India than in any other country in the > world. India is one of the nations where English is used locally to > communicate between a plethora of langauges. There are perhaps more English *users* in India than any other country but not *speakers*. Many can read English but can't converse in it beyond a few basic words. English is used more and more by the "educated" classes but I wouldn't say English is used by the common man all that much. In the northern half of India you can get by with Hindi much better than with English. Northerners & Southerners may need English to communicate -- but when I tried it on the streets of Mysore there was mutual incomprehension! The younger generation seems to effortlessly switch between hindi & english even midsentence so perhaps "hinglish" is the new prakrit!
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| From | nmm1@cam.ac.uk |
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| Date | 2011-09-05 20:51 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <j4398q$hcs$1@gosset.csi.cam.ac.uk> |
| In reply to | #3474 |
In article <4E651E4E.5000405@bitblocks.com>, Bakul Shah <usenet@bitblocks.com> wrote: >On 9/5/11 4:45 AM, Morten Reistad wrote: >> >> There are more English-speakers in India than in any other country in the >> world. India is one of the nations where English is used locally to >> communicate between a plethora of langauges. > >There are perhaps more English *users* in India than any other >country but not *speakers*. Many can read English but can't >converse in it beyond a few basic words. English is used more >and more by the "educated" classes but I wouldn't say English >is used by the common man all that much. In the northern half >of India you can get by with Hindi much better than with >English. Northerners & Southerners may need English to >communicate -- but when I tried it on the streets of Mysore >there was mutual incomprehension! The younger generation seems >to effortlessly switch between hindi & english even midsentence >so perhaps "hinglish" is the new prakrit! I recommend a trip to Glasgow or even Newcastle to disabuse you of the idea that difficulty is anything to do with being a non-native speaker of English :-) Regards, Nick Maclaren.
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| From | Morten Reistad <first@last.name> |
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| Date | 2011-09-06 10:57 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <4e65e3ac@news.broadpark.no> |
| In reply to | #3477 |
In article <j4398q$hcs$1@gosset.csi.cam.ac.uk>, <nmm1@cam.ac.uk> wrote: >In article <4E651E4E.5000405@bitblocks.com>, >Bakul Shah <usenet@bitblocks.com> wrote: >>On 9/5/11 4:45 AM, Morten Reistad wrote: >>> >>> There are more English-speakers in India than in any other country in the >>> world. India is one of the nations where English is used locally to >>> communicate between a plethora of langauges. >> >>There are perhaps more English *users* in India than any other >>country but not *speakers*. Many can read English but can't >>converse in it beyond a few basic words. English is used more >>and more by the "educated" classes but I wouldn't say English >>is used by the common man all that much. In the northern half >>of India you can get by with Hindi much better than with >>English. Northerners & Southerners may need English to >>communicate -- but when I tried it on the streets of Mysore >>there was mutual incomprehension! The younger generation seems >>to effortlessly switch between hindi & english even midsentence >>so perhaps "hinglish" is the new prakrit! > >I recommend a trip to Glasgow or even Newcastle to disabuse >you of the idea that difficulty is anything to do with being >a non-native speaker of English :-) Scottish has pretentions of being a separate language. They only lack an army and a navy; but they are fixing that. -- mrr
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2011-09-06 19:43 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <9cm8aoFvfeU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #3495 |
Morten Reistad wrote > <nmm1@cam.ac.uk> wrote: >> Bakul Shah <usenet@bitblocks.com> wrote >>> Morten Reistad wrote >>>> There are more English-speakers in India than in any other country >>>> in the world. India is one of the nations where English is used >>>> locally to communicate between a plethora of langauges. >>> There are perhaps more English *users* in India than any other >>> country but not *speakers*. Many can read English but can't >>> converse in it beyond a few basic words. English is used more >>> and more by the "educated" classes but I wouldn't say English >>> is used by the common man all that much. In the northern half >>> of India you can get by with Hindi much better than with >>> English. Northerners & Southerners may need English to >>> communicate -- but when I tried it on the streets of Mysore >>> there was mutual incomprehension! The younger generation seems >>> to effortlessly switch between hindi & english even midsentence >>> so perhaps "hinglish" is the new prakrit! >> I recommend a trip to Glasgow or even Newcastle to disabuse >> you of the idea that difficulty is anything to do with being >> a non-native speaker of English :-) > Scottish has pretentions of being a separate language. Only with the wankers. > They only lack an army Nope, they have had that for centurys now. > and a navy; but they are fixing that. Nope, the plug has been pulled on that.
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| From | Morten Reistad <first@last.name> |
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| Date | 2011-09-06 10:55 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <4e65e3ab$1@news.broadpark.no> |
| In reply to | #3474 |
In article <4E651E4E.5000405@bitblocks.com>, Bakul Shah <usenet@bitblocks.com> wrote: >On 9/5/11 4:45 AM, Morten Reistad wrote: >> >> There are more English-speakers in India than in any other country in the >> world. India is one of the nations where English is used locally to >> communicate between a plethora of langauges. > >There are perhaps more English *users* in India than any other >country but not *speakers*. Many can read English but can't >converse in it beyond a few basic words. English is used more >and more by the "educated" classes but I wouldn't say English >is used by the common man all that much. In the northern half >of India you can get by with Hindi much better than with >English. Northerners & Southerners may need English to >communicate -- but when I tried it on the streets of Mysore >there was mutual incomprehension! The younger generation seems >to effortlessly switch between hindi & english even midsentence >so perhaps "hinglish" is the new prakrit! Well, India "only" needs 25.5% English speakers to surpass the US. India _is_ nearly 4 times as big as the US. This also illustrates the problems of defining "English speaker". -- mrr
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| From | Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-09-06 11:36 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1Jm9q.150$ox5.110@newsfe12.ams2> |
| In reply to | #3474 |
Bakul Shah wrote: > On 9/5/11 4:45 AM, Morten Reistad wrote: >> >> There are more English-speakers in India than in any other country in the >> world. India is one of the nations where English is used locally to >> communicate between a plethora of langauges. > > There are perhaps more English *users* in India than any other > country but not *speakers*. Many can read English but can't > converse in it beyond a few basic words. English is used more > and more by the "educated" classes but I wouldn't say English > is used by the common man all that much. In the northern half > of India you can get by with Hindi much better than with > English. Northerners & Southerners may need English to > communicate -- but when I tried it on the streets of Mysore > there was mutual incomprehension! The younger generation seems > to effortlessly switch between hindi & english even midsentence > so perhaps "hinglish" is the new prakrit! Back in 1981 I was backpacking around south India. In Kerala there was a conference about how to prevent Hindi being adopted as the "second language", because it would have given northerners an "unfair" advantage.
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| From | wclodius@lost-alamos.pet (William Clodius) |
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| Date | 2011-09-05 13:33 -0600 |
| Subject | OT English Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! |
| Message-ID | <1k74iko.1vt2w4q9baf28N%wclodius@lost-alamos.pet> |
| In reply to | #3470 |
Morten Reistad <first@last.name> wrote: > <snip.\p> > There are more English-speakers in India than in any other country in the > world. India is one of the nations where English is used locally to > communicate between a plethora of langauges. > > Other, large such nations are the Phillipines, Papua new Guinea, > Nigeria, South Africa, Kenya, Uganda, Tanzania, the Sudans. We may > even include the EU as such a place. > > http://www.andaman.org/BOOK/reprints/weber/rep-weber.htm > > English usage is exploding in the third world; and has become > by far the most important language for international communications. > <snip> FWIW The New Yorker recently had an article on the rapid growth of movie production in Lagos, Nigeria (Nollywood), which they claimed was now the third most important center after Bollywood and Hollywood. Although distribution outside of Africa is minor, almost all productions were primarilly in English to maximize the size of the African audiance. -- Bill Clodius los the lost and net the pet to email
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| From | Patrick Scheible <kkt@zipcon.net> |
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| Date | 2011-09-05 23:12 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <86mxei8ai0.fsf@zipcon.net> |
| In reply to | #3449 |
Peter Flass <Peter_Flass@Yahoo.com> writes: > On 9/4/2011 11:47 AM, Quadibloc wrote: >> On Sep 3, 11:53 am, "Rod Speed"<rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> The non european form, mainly because the europeans are in the >>> minority world wide. >> >> Huh? English speakers are in a smaller minority than Europeans. >> >> John Savard > > > By gosh, you're right. I had to check this and the population of > Europe minus UK and Ireland is given at about 766 million. The US, > Ca, AU, NZ and the UK and Ire are about 433 million if I've got all > the numbers right. English is also the language of business and government in India. Approximately 350 million Indians use it at least well enough to read, if not to speak fluently. -- Patrick
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| From | "Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2011-09-07 09:44 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <997.302T1831T5845560@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
| In reply to | #3449 |
In article <j40g3s$dhg$1@dont-email.me>, Peter_Flass@Yahoo.com (Peter Flass) writes: > On 9/4/2011 11:47 AM, Quadibloc wrote: > >> On Sep 3, 11:53 am, "Rod Speed"<rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> The non european form, mainly because the europeans are in the >>> minority world wide. >> >> Huh? English speakers are in a smaller minority than Europeans. > > By gosh, you're right. I had to check this and the population of > Europe minus UK and Ireland is given at about 766 million. The US, > Ca, AU, NZ and the UK and Ire are about 433 million if I've got all > the numbers right. The balance swings even further when you take out B1FF and all his descendents, who nowadays are wearing out their thumbs tweeting from their smartphones. -- /~\ cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid (Charlie Gibbs) \ / I'm really at ac.dekanfrus if you read it the right way. X Top-posted messages will probably be ignored. See RFC1855. / \ HTML will DEFINITELY be ignored. Join the ASCII ribbon campaign!
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| From | Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2011-09-03 13:41 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <3nq467h8eek90oru2p4mtqljsp7hm56o99@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #3406 |
On 3 Sep 2011 14:57:15 GMT, jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote:
>Patrick Scheible wrote:
>> Stephen Fuld <SFuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> writes:
>>
>>> On 9/2/2011 8:46 AM, Robert Wessel wrote:
>>>
>>> snip
>>>
>>>> But I've always though that some additional formatting in printf
>>>> formatting strings would be an obvious feature to add to C.
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, of course. While the full functionality of picture clauses might
>>> be nice, A small subset would go a long way. The single thing I would
>>> most like to see is to make it easy to print numbers with separators
>>> every three characters. I get so frustrated when I see things like
>>> the output of a profiling program say a routine was executed
>>>
>>> 34587706689349 times.
>>>
>>> It sure makes it hard to read and there is no excuse for that. I
>>> realize there are issues with commas versus spaces as separators, but
>>> these could be overcome.
>>
>> Even if they use spaces instead of commas, it's still easier to read
>> than no separators at all.
>
>Not spaces.. Which do you chose? The American use of comma or
>the European use of period? In one side of the pond, the period
>implies fractions. We couldn't decide in the 70s.
C, at least, has answers to a few of those questions already vial the
locale mechanism. In Cobol, you could specify "DECIMAL POINT IS
COMMA" in the program, and it would swap the decimal point and comma
characters from American to European usage, although you still coded
the comma as the separator character and the period as the decimal
point in the picture strings themselves.
We dealt with some of that internally many years ago, and ended up
with a mini-language for describing the formatting. I'll summarize a
bit, but basically you had a string consisting of:
- Ordinary insertion operations, which were insertions of characters
that were processed left to right. These could be Z, 9, periods,
substitutions, and "other" characters. Zs, 9s, and periods worked
much as in Cobol, Z's and 9s substituted a digit from the input
number, with the first nine forcing the start of significance. A
period inserted a period an fixed the decimal point. "Other"
characters (characters that didn't have other meanings) were just
copied in ("9-9" would produce two digits separated by a dash), and
substitution characters "@xxx" would insert something defined
externally (@DP, for example specified the local decimal point).
Characters with other meanings could be escaped as well (for example,
"9\Z9" would produce two digits separated by a zed.
- flags: that specified things to happen. Notably # to start
significance (sometimes that's more convenient than using the Z--to-9
transition), and V to fix the decimal point location (the period
ordinary insertion also inserted a period, but you could specify
"V@DP", for example to fix the decimal point, and insert a locale
specific decimal point character.
- Signed insertion: of the form "Sabc", where one of the three
character would be inserted based on the sign of the number (positive,
negative or zero). For example "S+- ". Each character could be an
ordinary character, a substitution character, or an escape.
- Floating insertion: of the form "Fc" where the character specified
would be floated to the left of the most significant digit. The
character could be ordinary, substitution a sign (Sabc) or an escape.
Multiple floats were accepted and were floated in the order
encountered in the format string, so you specify a multi-character
float in reverse order.
- Padding: like a float, but inserts the padding character in all the
positions to the left of the start of significance.
There were other embellishments as well, for example, you could ask
the string to be centered or right aligned, the whole output to be
blank or a specific string if the input was zero, and so on.
Not saying it's a great approach, but it works reasonable well in a
lot of cases for us.
A few samples from our doc (the fours input being 123.45, -.05,
-12345.67, and zero):
"ZZZ,ZZ9.99"
" 123.45"
" 0.05"
" 12,345.67"
" 0.00"
"ZZZ,ZZZ.99S+- "
" 123.45+"
" 05-"
" 12,345.67-"
" 00 "
"ZZZ,ZZZ#.99FS+- "
" +123.45"
" -.05"
"-12,345.67"
" .00"
"ZZZ,ZZ9.99S ) FS ( "
" 123.45 "
" (0.05)"
"(12,345.67)"
" 0.00 "
" ZZZ,ZZ9.99S ) F$FS ( "
" $123.45 "
" ($0.05)"
"($12,345.67)"
" $0.00 "
"ZZZ,ZZZ#.99PS+- "
"++++123.45"
"-------.05"
"-12,345.67"
" .00"
"ZZZ,ZZZ#.99FS+- P*"
"***+123.45"
"******-.05"
"*12,345.67"
"****** .00"
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| From | scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) |
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| Date | 2011-09-03 21:36 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <P5x8q.337333$Ln1.190528@news.usenetserver.com> |
| In reply to | #3417 |
Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> writes: >On 3 Sep 2011 14:57:15 GMT, jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote: > >>Patrick Scheible wrote: >>> Stephen Fuld <SFuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> writes: >>> >>>> On 9/2/2011 8:46 AM, Robert Wessel wrote: >>>> >>>> snip >>>> >>>>> But I've always though that some additional formatting in printf >>>>> formatting strings would be an obvious feature to add to C. >>>> >>>> >>>> Yes, of course. While the full functionality of picture clauses might >>>> be nice, A small subset would go a long way. The single thing I would >>>> most like to see is to make it easy to print numbers with separators >>>> every three characters. I get so frustrated when I see things like >>>> the output of a profiling program say a routine was executed >>>> >>>> 34587706689349 times. >>>> >>>> It sure makes it hard to read and there is no excuse for that. I >>>> realize there are issues with commas versus spaces as separators, but >>>> these could be overcome. >>> >>> Even if they use spaces instead of commas, it's still easier to read >>> than no separators at all. >> >>Not spaces.. Which do you chose? The American use of comma or >>the European use of period? In one side of the pond, the period >>implies fractions. We couldn't decide in the 70s. > > >C, at least, has answers to a few of those questions already vial the >locale mechanism. In Cobol, you could specify "DECIMAL POINT IS >COMMA" in the program, and it would swap the decimal point and comma >characters from American to European usage, although you still coded >the comma as the separator character and the period as the decimal >point in the picture strings themselves. > >We dealt with some of that internally many years ago, and ended up >with a mini-language for describing the formatting. I'll summarize a >bit, but basically you had a string consisting of: The Burroughs medium systems also had such a mini-language. The compiler converted the PICture clause into a set of micro-operators that were used by the EDT instruction, see: <http://vseries.lurndal.org/doku.php?id=instructions:edt> scott
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| From | Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-09-03 20:18 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <u8k567t1aal29fg1lq50aakes1rc1bd1e8@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #3424 |
On 03 Sep 2011 21:36:47 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) wrote: >Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> writes: >>On 3 Sep 2011 14:57:15 GMT, jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote: >> >>>Patrick Scheible wrote: >>>> Stephen Fuld <SFuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> writes: >>>> >>>>> On 9/2/2011 8:46 AM, Robert Wessel wrote: >>>>> >>>>> snip >>>>> >>>>>> But I've always though that some additional formatting in printf >>>>>> formatting strings would be an obvious feature to add to C. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Yes, of course. While the full functionality of picture clauses might >>>>> be nice, A small subset would go a long way. The single thing I would >>>>> most like to see is to make it easy to print numbers with separators >>>>> every three characters. I get so frustrated when I see things like >>>>> the output of a profiling program say a routine was executed >>>>> >>>>> 34587706689349 times. >>>>> >>>>> It sure makes it hard to read and there is no excuse for that. I >>>>> realize there are issues with commas versus spaces as separators, but >>>>> these could be overcome. >>>> >>>> Even if they use spaces instead of commas, it's still easier to read >>>> than no separators at all. >>> >>>Not spaces.. Which do you chose? The American use of comma or >>>the European use of period? In one side of the pond, the period >>>implies fractions. We couldn't decide in the 70s. >> >> >>C, at least, has answers to a few of those questions already vial the >>locale mechanism. In Cobol, you could specify "DECIMAL POINT IS >>COMMA" in the program, and it would swap the decimal point and comma >>characters from American to European usage, although you still coded >>the comma as the separator character and the period as the decimal >>point in the picture strings themselves. >> >>We dealt with some of that internally many years ago, and ended up >>with a mini-language for describing the formatting. I'll summarize a >>bit, but basically you had a string consisting of: > >The Burroughs medium systems also had such a mini-language. The compiler >converted the PICture clause into a set of micro-operators that were >used by the EDT instruction, see: > > <http://vseries.lurndal.org/doku.php?id=instructions:edt> The S/360 ED and EDMK instruction could also implemented a mini-language that handled substantial parts of the processing of Cobol PICs. That was probably a fair bit of the inspiration for what we did.
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| From | Peter Flass <Peter_Flass@Yahoo.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-09-04 08:31 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <j3vr2v$vek$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #3424 |
On 9/3/2011 5:36 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote: > Robert Wessel<robertwessel2@yahoo.com> writes: >> On 3 Sep 2011 14:57:15 GMT, jmfbahciv<See.above@aol.com> wrote: >> >>> Patrick Scheible wrote: >>>> Stephen Fuld<SFuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> writes: >>>> >>>>> On 9/2/2011 8:46 AM, Robert Wessel wrote: >>>>> >>>>> snip >>>>> >>>>>> But I've always though that some additional formatting in printf >>>>>> formatting strings would be an obvious feature to add to C. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Yes, of course. While the full functionality of picture clauses might >>>>> be nice, A small subset would go a long way. The single thing I would >>>>> most like to see is to make it easy to print numbers with separators >>>>> every three characters. I get so frustrated when I see things like >>>>> the output of a profiling program say a routine was executed >>>>> >>>>> 34587706689349 times. >>>>> >>>>> It sure makes it hard to read and there is no excuse for that. I >>>>> realize there are issues with commas versus spaces as separators, but >>>>> these could be overcome. >>>> >>>> Even if they use spaces instead of commas, it's still easier to read >>>> than no separators at all. >>> >>> Not spaces.. Which do you chose? The American use of comma or >>> the European use of period? In one side of the pond, the period >>> implies fractions. We couldn't decide in the 70s. >> >> >> C, at least, has answers to a few of those questions already vial the >> locale mechanism. In Cobol, you could specify "DECIMAL POINT IS >> COMMA" in the program, and it would swap the decimal point and comma >> characters from American to European usage, although you still coded >> the comma as the separator character and the period as the decimal >> point in the picture strings themselves. >> >> We dealt with some of that internally many years ago, and ended up >> with a mini-language for describing the formatting. I'll summarize a >> bit, but basically you had a string consisting of: > > The Burroughs medium systems also had such a mini-language. The compiler > converted the PICture clause into a set of micro-operators that were > used by the EDT instruction, see: > > <http://vseries.lurndal.org/doku.php?id=instructions:edt> > > scott That's a lot like what I did for PL/I formats, with the addition of looping for repetition of groups of format specifications and linking to remote formats. I wish I'd seen yours, I could have avoided re-inventing the wheel.
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| From | nmm1@cam.ac.uk |
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| Date | 2011-09-04 13:11 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <j3vpsn$nuv$1@gosset.csi.cam.ac.uk> |
| In reply to | #3437 |
In article <j3vr2v$vek$1@dont-email.me>, Peter Flass <Peter_Flass@Yahoo.com> wrote: >On 9/3/2011 5:36 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote: >> Robert Wessel<robertwessel2@yahoo.com> writes: >>> >>> We dealt with some of that internally many years ago, and ended up >>> with a mini-language for describing the formatting. I'll summarize a >>> bit, but basically you had a string consisting of: >> >> The Burroughs medium systems also had such a mini-language. The compiler >> converted the PICture clause into a set of micro-operators that were >> used by the EDT instruction, see: >> >> <http://vseries.lurndal.org/doku.php?id=instructions:edt> > >That's a lot like what I did for PL/I formats, with the addition of >looping for repetition of groups of format specifications and linking to >remote formats. I wish I'd seen yours, I could have avoided >re-inventing the wheel. And Algol 68, at a somewhat different level. It allowed the user to write such procedures and wasn't a great success. The problem is that the requirements are so heterogeneous that any general mechanism is unusably complicated, and any specialised one is unsuitable for other uses. POSIX and C locales (and time zone handling) veer towards the second approach, and the less said about C's multi-byte character nonsense the better. Even for the trivial cases of tables of numbers, a glance at a reasonable range of printed tables (especially older ones) is enough to make one gibber. Regards, Nick Maclaren.
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| From | scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) |
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| Date | 2011-09-05 17:14 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ks79q.3920$mS.3779@news.usenetserver.com> |
| In reply to | #3437 |
Peter Flass <Peter_Flass@Yahoo.com> writes: >On 9/3/2011 5:36 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote: >> Robert Wessel<robertwessel2@yahoo.com> writes: >>> On 3 Sep 2011 14:57:15 GMT, jmfbahciv<See.above@aol.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Patrick Scheible wrote: >>>>> Stephen Fuld<SFuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> writes: >>>>> >>>>>> On 9/2/2011 8:46 AM, Robert Wessel wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> snip >>>>>> >>>>>>> But I've always though that some additional formatting in printf >>>>>>> formatting strings would be an obvious feature to add to C. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, of course. While the full functionality of picture clauses might >>>>>> be nice, A small subset would go a long way. The single thing I would >>>>>> most like to see is to make it easy to print numbers with separators >>>>>> every three characters. I get so frustrated when I see things like >>>>>> the output of a profiling program say a routine was executed >>>>>> >>>>>> 34587706689349 times. >>>>>> >>>>>> It sure makes it hard to read and there is no excuse for that. I >>>>>> realize there are issues with commas versus spaces as separators, but >>>>>> these could be overcome. >>>>> >>>>> Even if they use spaces instead of commas, it's still easier to read >>>>> than no separators at all. >>>> >>>> Not spaces.. Which do you chose? The American use of comma or >>>> the European use of period? In one side of the pond, the period >>>> implies fractions. We couldn't decide in the 70s. >>> >>> >>> C, at least, has answers to a few of those questions already vial the >>> locale mechanism. In Cobol, you could specify "DECIMAL POINT IS >>> COMMA" in the program, and it would swap the decimal point and comma >>> characters from American to European usage, although you still coded >>> the comma as the separator character and the period as the decimal >>> point in the picture strings themselves. >>> >>> We dealt with some of that internally many years ago, and ended up >>> with a mini-language for describing the formatting. I'll summarize a >>> bit, but basically you had a string consisting of: >> >> The Burroughs medium systems also had such a mini-language. The compiler >> converted the PICture clause into a set of micro-operators that were >> used by the EDT instruction, see: >> >> <http://vseries.lurndal.org/doku.php?id=instructions:edt> >> >> scott > >That's a lot like what I did for PL/I formats, with the addition of >looping for repetition of groups of format specifications and linking to >remote formats. I wish I'd seen yours, I could have avoided >re-inventing the wheel. It dates back to the B3500 in 1965. The B3500 built on the Electrodata/Burroughs B100/200/300 systems which had two instructions for data formatting, 'transfer' and 'mask'. The mask instruction would take a mask like '$***,bbb,bb.bb-' and format the BCD operand using that mask into a output field (three operand instruction). Transfer was a bulk move instruction that would move up to 120 bytes at a time. scott
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