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| From | John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.arch |
| Subject | Re: i860 on Bitsavers |
| Date | 2011-09-11 15:58 +0000 |
| Organization | Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY |
| Message-ID | <j4ilqs$2d6f$1@gal.iecc.com> (permalink) |
| References | <ed187816-7395-4882-b3c7-b6876b38626a@g9g2000yqb.googlegroups.com> <2011Sep11.094149@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> |
>The i860 was not a success (compared to the hype). New >implementations would have been a hard sell to everyone: Not only >prospective customers, but also Intel management. Part of the problem was that it was hard to get the high performance other than in hand-crafted loops. But a lot of it was that the interrupts and system interface were awful, leading to speculation that it was supposed to be a graphics chip that was turned into a general purpose CPU late in the design cycle. The i960 was supposed to have gone the other way. >Maybe IA-64 flopped for the same reasons as i860: good for HPC, too >hard to program for everything else; but I still think it had more >potential. Seems to me the problem there is that the hardware caught up with the software. Trace scheduling was a big win in the 1980s because the compilers could find all sorts of parallelism to keep multiple units busy at runtime. Now the pipelines are so deep and the decoders so sophieticated that they can get pretty close on the fly, with a lot simpler ISA and compiler technology. R's, John
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i860 on Bitsavers Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2011-09-10 16:20 -0700
Re: i860 on Bitsavers anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-09-11 07:41 +0000
Re: i860 on Bitsavers John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> - 2011-09-11 15:58 +0000
Re: i860 on Bitsavers nmm1@cam.ac.uk - 2011-09-11 16:46 +0100
Re: i860 on Bitsavers John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> - 2011-09-11 23:37 +0000
Re: i860 on Bitsavers Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2011-09-11 12:15 -0700
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